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Title: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: charleeco7 on April 04, 2013, 09:11:12 PM
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but Sky are running a pole for the PFA players player of the last 40 years. This week God 5 is in the running.

"1993-2002
The PFA is celebrating 40 years of the PFA Players' Player of The Year Award, but of the 35 winners to have lifted the trophy, who was the greatest of all? We want you to vote for your favourites in a series of polls taking us through the last four decades. The two most popular players each week will be put forward to our final vote in April. So get voting and don't miss your chance to win two tickets to this year's PFA Awards Dinner. In week three we're looking at the nine players who won the award between 1993 and 2002.
Choose your favourite player"

He is in there with some heavy hitters and at the moment Bergkamp is way ahead but it'd be nice to get him through.

Anyway here is the link http://www1.skysports.com/pfa/28573
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: ACVilla on April 04, 2013, 09:17:26 PM
Voted but he has no chance. The un-flying Dutchman currently had 63% of the vote of the nine players in God's pot.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on April 04, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
Voted but he has no chance. The un-flying Dutchman currently had 63% of the vote of the nine players in God's pot.

Come on Villa folks, no doubt the Gooners have all been voting...we can do the same!
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: eastie on April 04, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
Much as Paul was the best villa player I've seen by a distance my vote would probably have to go to thierry Henry.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: charleeco7 on April 04, 2013, 09:45:07 PM
It's the top two from each decade so it would be nice to get him through to the final if nothing else
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: charleeco7 on April 04, 2013, 09:46:43 PM
Much as Paul was the best villa player I've seen by a distance my vote would probably have to go to thierry Henry.

He's not an option it's players who won it from 93 to 02. I'm sure he will make the final though.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: PGW on April 04, 2013, 09:47:09 PM
Done
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Matt C on April 04, 2013, 09:48:19 PM
He's now catching Cantona (not for the first time)
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: eric woolban woolban on April 04, 2013, 10:07:16 PM
Running a pole.

It's got to be Robert Warzycha.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: villajk on April 04, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Did it earlier.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Lsvilla on April 04, 2013, 10:46:50 PM
voted - 0.2% behind Cantona so come on lads we can do this
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: pav on April 04, 2013, 10:54:21 PM
Done and he's in the lead
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Somniloquism on April 04, 2013, 10:57:05 PM
He is ahead of Cantona, but Bergkamp is massively in the lead.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: pav on April 04, 2013, 10:59:22 PM
Bugger read it wrong , bergkamp is pissing it
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: olaftab on April 04, 2013, 10:59:57 PM
Emile anyone?
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: itbrvilla on April 04, 2013, 11:14:14 PM
Bergkamp for me. Best player I've ever seen in the flesh and some of my most memorable MOTD experiences. Truly unbelievable player.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: bob rowe on April 04, 2013, 11:34:32 PM
Done. Bergkamps still in front, but The Lord Our Mcgrath is in 2nd place.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Californian Villain on April 04, 2013, 11:38:49 PM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: He wears a magic hat on April 05, 2013, 01:25:03 AM
Omg california villa catona is the biggest pile of over rated shite i have ever known.  he's not even in the top 5 of man ure players of the last 20 years let alone the premiership. its an absolute myth about how good he was.

He's only lorded because he was the last piece in their jigsaw.

 its like saying that peter withe was the greatest player ever to grace the mighty lions of aston
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Legion on April 05, 2013, 02:07:25 AM
Omg california villa catona is the biggest pile of over rated shite i have ever known.  he's not even in the top 5 of man ure players of the last 20 years let alone the premiership. its an absolute myth about how good he was.

He's only lorded because he was the last piece in their jigsaw.

 its like saying that peter withe was the greatest player ever to grace the mighty lions of aston

He did score quite an important goal.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: ACVilla on April 05, 2013, 06:13:17 AM
Omg california villa catona is the biggest pile of over rated shite i have ever known.  he's not even in the top 5 of man ure players of the last 20 years let alone the premiership. its an absolute myth about how good he was.

He's only lorded because he was the last piece in their jigsaw.
I've never really thought about it but I probably agree with this.

His king-fu kick probably duded to his aura.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Malandro on April 05, 2013, 07:59:43 AM
Omg california villa catona is the biggest pile of over rated shite i have ever known.  he's not even in the top 5 of man ure players of the last 20 years let alone the premiership. its an absolute myth about how good he was.

He's only lorded because he was the last piece in their jigsaw.
I've never really thought about it but I probably agree with this.

His king-fu kick probably duded to his aura.

A myth! Cantona was very good.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Dr Butler on April 05, 2013, 09:08:49 AM
Andy Gray ? won both young and PFA player in the same year, or did I imagine that ?

UTV
the Doc
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 05, 2013, 09:12:39 AM
Bergkamp gets my vote. Great player.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: The Left Side on April 05, 2013, 04:52:06 PM
Andy Gray ? won both young and PFA player in the same year, or did I imagine that ?

UTV
the Doc

Correct
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 05, 2013, 04:54:49 PM
Bergkamp gets my vote. Great player.

Scab!
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 05, 2013, 04:59:32 PM
It's obviously difficult to compare players in different positions, but I doubt Bergkamp was anywhere near as consistent as McGrath.

Plus he was shit in the air.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 05, 2013, 05:00:05 PM
Bergkamp gets my vote. Great player.

Booooooooo!
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: stubbsyandy on April 05, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
Ahead of Cantona now
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: john e on April 05, 2013, 07:14:20 PM
Cantona was absolute class, one of the top 3 all time prem players for me
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: olaftab on April 05, 2013, 08:38:01 PM
My vote is in and Lord McGrath on 17% in second place.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: The Left Side on April 05, 2013, 08:56:06 PM
17.1% after my vote, still way behind Bergkamp.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: danlanza on April 05, 2013, 09:27:02 PM
Our bloke , easily. God.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Uknowthescore on April 05, 2013, 10:03:26 PM
Just voted and he's still in 2nd ooh ahh Paul mcgrath
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Billy Walker on April 05, 2013, 10:12:26 PM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.

He was miles better than the pair of 'em. 
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Irish villain on April 05, 2013, 10:23:18 PM
I just voted and McGrath is now on 17.3%, Bergkamp is on 57%
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: eamonn on April 06, 2013, 01:38:40 AM
Ooh aah Paul McGrath or Ooh aah Cantona ? Come on, there's only one winner and it's not desperately seeking Eric.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Californian Villain on April 06, 2013, 06:55:45 AM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.

He was miles better than the pair of 'em. 

Total garbage.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: LeeB on April 06, 2013, 07:19:21 AM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.

He was miles better than the pair of 'em. 

Total garbage.

Yes he was.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: He wears a magic hat on April 06, 2013, 08:18:07 AM
I cant understand this love in for cantona.

Good player yes but great never

you can real off players who were better than him without even thinking about it

i honestly dont think id pick him in any all time premiership side where as mcgrath would walk in.

Paul mcgrath is by far and away the greatest defender that its been my pleasure to see.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 06, 2013, 08:54:00 AM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.

He was miles better than the pair of 'em. 

Total garbage.

Total garbage.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Risso on April 06, 2013, 09:03:39 AM
It's always hard comparing defenders with attacking players, as obviously people will always appreciate the end result of a goal, especially the sort Bergkamp used to score.  But McGrath is the best defender I've ever seen, and the only one who was a joy to watch.  So he wins in my eyes.  Dwight Yorke was better than Cantona anyway.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Ads on April 06, 2013, 09:09:30 AM
You have it in a nutshell.

The best defender I have ever seen. The youtube of him defending against Italy, with Roberto Baggio in his back pocket is sublime. Knowing now that he was struggling with alcohol and painkiller addiction makes it all the more remarkable.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Ads on April 06, 2013, 09:15:50 AM
Paul McGrath was one of the best centre halves to ever play the game. He is up there with the very best, certainly in the top one.

You cannot say the same about Begkamp or Cantona.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 09:29:52 AM
I saw most of Paul's games home and away for us and apart from a day at the baseball ground when dean Saunders gave him the run around i can't really recall seeing him have a stinker- his level of consistency and performance were outstanding - i had the privilege of having a drink with paul at the Mikita tournament at Wembley in 1990 (he had  an orange may i add) and found him to be a really nice bloke - the word legend is often overused.

Paul McGrath was and  always will be a real legend!
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Billy Walker on April 06, 2013, 11:36:51 AM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.

He was miles better than the pair of 'em. 

Total garbage.

Nope, not total garbage.  Check out McGrath beating World Champs Italy single-handedly.  On his day McGrath was from another planet.  I'll grant you Bergkamp could produce flashes of brilliance at the very highest level, but he had a very talented supporting cast of Dutch players around him. 

As for Cantona, a great player at club level who seemed to go missing at higher levels.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 06, 2013, 12:55:28 PM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.

He was miles better than the pair of 'em. 

Total garbage.

Nope, not total garbage.  Check out McGrath beating World Champs Italy single-handedly.  On his day McGrath was from another planet.  I'll grant you Bergkamp could produce flashes of brilliance at the very highest level, but he had a very talented supporting cast of Dutch players around him. 

As for Cantona, a great player at club level who seemed to go missing at higher levels.


Look at what Arsenal won with Bergkamp and didn't win without Bergkamp.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 06, 2013, 02:06:20 PM
No doubt that McGrath is the best player I've seen at Villa....but better than Bergkamp and/or Cantona? No Way.

He was miles better than the pair of 'em. 

Total garbage.

Nope, not total garbage.  Check out McGrath beating World Champs Italy single-handedly.  On his day McGrath was from another planet.  I'll grant you Bergkamp could produce flashes of brilliance at the very highest level, but he had a very talented supporting cast of Dutch players around him. 

As for Cantona, a great player at club level who seemed to go missing at higher levels.


Look at what Arsenal won with Bergkamp and didn't win without Bergkamp.

A pretty poor argument unless you think David Geddes and Tommy Johnson were better players for Villa than Billy Walker or Pongo Waring.

Since Bergkamp left, Man City have come to the fore and Arsenal have been forced to sell most of their best players. I think the loss of Fabregas, Nasri, van Persie, Toure and so on may also have affected Arsenal's chances of trophy glory. That and deciding to play a blind goalkeeper against Small Heath.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: rob_bridge on April 06, 2013, 03:56:40 PM
McGrath was a good as any of them in England and International Level. Only Baresi was better of his peers at the time.

He head Baggio in his pocket that day in New York and kept Gianinni quiet 4 years early when in M/F.

Genius in my book.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: OzVilla on April 07, 2013, 02:44:47 AM
Anyone care to name a better defender who has played in England over the last 25 years?
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: eamonn on April 07, 2013, 02:48:58 AM
Titus Bramble
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 07, 2013, 06:00:58 AM
Better defender than McGrath? After OJ's solicitor I'm struggling.
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: charleeco7 on April 19, 2013, 07:18:26 PM
The big man came third overall. Not sure i agree with the winner though http://m.skysports.com/article/football//8651986
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: KKAVFC on April 19, 2013, 07:27:27 PM
God damn pole has closed  >:(
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: rob_bridge on April 19, 2013, 10:56:15 PM
He would piss all over Gerrard in midfield and as for Henry well another one in his pocket. He may have struggled once or twice v messi

Le Tiss was the only player to get the better of him more than once
Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: devilla on April 19, 2013, 11:17:36 PM
How the hell did Gerrard win that?

Of course I think God should have won it but if he didn't how the hell can you say that Bergkamp is not as good as Gerrard?

Title: Re: Vote for God in 40 years of the PFA players player awards
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 19, 2013, 11:38:07 PM
How the hell did Gerrard win that?

Of course I think God should have won it but if he didn't how the hell can you say that Bergkamp is not as good as Gerrard?



Scousers hijacking the vote I'd say.
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