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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on March 26, 2013, 09:45:16 PM
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Has anyone noticed the amount of pointing our players currently do?
Far too often an opposition player makes a run and, rather than the player who's close by and has seen it going with him, he'll point and shout at a teammate to run with/after the opponent instead. The player doesn't see this and so the opposition player is through.
You watch the game this Sunday and I bet it'll happen numerous times.
Players need to go themselves and not point at others to do the job they've seen needs doing.
Just making a point. It's been bugging me for a while that has. Feel slightly better that I've spoken about it.
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Agreed, but it's preferable to the David Ginola hands on hips approach.
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Agreed, but it's preferable to the David Ginola hands on hips approach.
Ah, but when you look that good...
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Westwood does this quite alot.I don't know if it is an individual trait of certain players or orders from the manager and coaches.
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Id take pointing over baffled looks, and no communication.
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Did Ricky Pointing pont a lot?
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I disagree too an extent, football is a team game and I've always thought the best players talk their way through games but there is a difference between this and handing over responsibility which i don't think is the case with us.
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Westwood does this quite alot.I don't know if it is an individual trait of certain players or orders from the manager and coaches.
One who always does it and really annoys me is Bannon, normally when his man is over 5'1".
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Westwood does this quite alot.I don't know if it is an individual trait of certain players or orders from the manager and coaches.
Westwood tends to be the main culprit in my eyes. In a good team maybe he can get away with it.
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What's the pointing of this posting?
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Surely they are there to play football, not to indulge in DIY building pastime activities ?
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Mark Kinsella was amazing at pointing. He was usually stood still pointing at a player who'd waltzed past him like he wasn't there, but he did it with a style and panache that hasn't been matched since.
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Mark Kinsella was amazing at pointing. He was usually stood still pointing at a player who'd waltzed past him like he wasn't there, but he did it with a style and panache that hasn't been matched since.
With a trowel in his hand.
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Kinsella was good, but he wasn't a patch on Zat Knight, who was the undisputed king of pointing.
There'd be a ricket dropped somewhere around Zat, the rest of the defence (and the crowd) would look at Zat, but he'd be stood there, pointing somewhere in the distance with a confused look on his face.
Top notch pointing.
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1252075516_Invasion_of_the_Body_Snatchers.gif)
I noticed he did this really early on in his Villa career, and it quickly got to the point where I'd be thinking "he's going to do it, he's going to do it, he's going to do it" and I'd close my eyes to avoid seeing it, it was so inevitable.
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(http://www.leedsstudent.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/pointless-quiz.jpg)
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Ive got plenty of pointing to be done If there is a cheap builder out there
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Pointer with extra wildness...
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Also, honourable mention to Nigel Reo-Coker, who supplemented his inspirational organising of pre-match huddles, in which he proved himself to be fine captain material, with a tendency to engage in the odd bit of pointing himself.
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Haha, as soon as I saw the title I knew Risso would mention Kinsella.
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(http://www.leedsstudent.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/pointless-quiz.jpg)
Now, there's an optical illusion.
You'd think that they were the same height, when in fact one is nearly a foot taller!!
Now. there's a piece of useless information ;)
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From my seat behind the dugout I saw Peter Grant do a lot of pointing and shouting but none of the players ever looked at him.
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Westwood does this quite alot.I don't know if it is an individual trait of certain players or orders from the manager and coaches.
One who always does it and really annoys me is Bannon, normally when his man is over 5'1".
Wondered how long it would be before Bannan was mentioned.
I've noticed a fair bit of pointing, too, but most of it is pointing to where he wants to receive the pass.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointer_%28dog_breed%29
A lovely Pointer this one.
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Is that Frank Skinner and David Schneider? if not then I have no idea who they are..
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Mark Kinsella was amazing at pointing. He was usually stood still pointing at a player who'd waltzed past him like he wasn't there, but he did it with a style and panache that hasn't been matched since.
Indeed - I was going to suggest perhaps he's now on the staff as pointing coach.
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You're fired.
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I used to do a lot of pointing when I played rugby and football - only beacuse I was too slow/unfit to get to where I wanted so thought someone faster and fitter should do it!! ;D
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Has anyone noticed the amount of pointing our players currently do?
Well you need a trade once the football career is over!
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Has anyone noticed the amount of pointing our players currently do?
Far too often an opposition player makes a run and, rather than the player who's close by and has seen it going with him, he'll point and shout at a teammate to run with/after the opponent instead. The player doesn't see this and so the opposition player is through.
You watch the game this Sunday and I bet it'll happen numerous times.
Players need to go themselves and not point at others to do the job they've seen needs doing.
Just making a point. It's been bugging me for a while that has. Feel slightly better that I've spoken about it.
you are taking the piss arent you?
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Has anyone noticed the amount of pointing our players currently do?
Far too often an opposition player makes a run and, rather than the player who's close by and has seen it going with him, he'll point and shout at a teammate to run with/after the opponent instead. The player doesn't see this and so the opposition player is through.
You watch the game this Sunday and I bet it'll happen numerous times.
Players need to go themselves and not point at others to do the job they've seen needs doing.
Just making a point. It's been bugging me for a while that has. Feel slightly better that I've spoken about it.
you are taking the piss arent you?
Did that need pointing out?
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Every great side needs a great pointer in the backbone of the team. A pointy Goalkeeper with a big pair of Sepp Maier gloves instills confidence in the team.
Also, it's esential to have a pointer on the bench in a coaching capacity.
That said, great pointers don't necessarily make great managers. look at Brian Kidd and Sammy Lee. Fantastic pointers but they just couldn't make the step up.
Where do we stand on spitters? Who's our best spitter?
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Every great side needs a great pointer in the backbone of the team. A pointy Goalkeeper with a big pair of Sepp Maier gloves instills confidence in the team.
Also, it's esential to have a pointer on the bench in a coaching capacity.
That said, great pointers don't necessarily make great managers. look at Brian Kidd and Sammy Lee. Fantastic pointers but they just couldn't make the step up.
Where do we stand on spitters? Who's our best spitter?
Not sure who our current best spitter is but I wager they would not get anywhere near the Mighty Kent Nielsen. The great Danes phlegm throw against Inter Milan in 1990 will never be beaten. Top gobbing!
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Nonsense!
Alan Evans could spit over the North Stand
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Nonsense!
Alan Evans could spit over the North Stand
Good point
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As well as a good pointer, you need someone on the bench who can do that two-handed gesture that looks like invisible pass-the-parcel. I think it's accompanied by the archane chant "Ship it! Ship it!"
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..That said, great pointers don't necessarily make great managers ..
Where do you stand with Great Danes?
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..That said, great pointers don't necessarily make great managers ..
I quite liked some of the Pointer Sisters stuff - not sure what their manager was like.
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Funnily enough if you go to the Villa website, there is a picture of PL pointing!! Spooky.
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Agreed, but it's preferable to the David Ginola hands on hips approach.
Ah, but when you look that good...
Depends which butcher you use...
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I think it was the league cup final against Leeds when Brian Little celebrated a goal by pointing at his head with both index fingers.
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I think it was the league cup final against Leeds when Brian Little celebrated a goal by pointing at his head with both index fingers.
Correct
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What do points make........
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An electrical contact, especially one in the distributor of an automobile engine.
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I'm sorry thats nt a point, in scotland, thats 10 different meanings esp. looking at his facial expression. but what ever it is it will end in "...Ya fud"
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02318/paul-lambert_2318497b.jpg)
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I'm sorry thats nt a point, in scotland, thats 10 different meanings esp. looking at his facial expression. but what ever it is it will end in "...Ya fud"
Did ya no see the fucking ball or what ?
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(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/35/20/0,,10265~11608117,00.jpg)
I'm sorry thats nt a point, in scotland, thats 10 different meanings esp. looking at his facial expression. but what ever it is it will end in "...Ya fud"
Did ya no see the fucking ball or what Ya Fud
corrected it for you Danlanza
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Ah, our great leader doing some authoritative pointing work.
I love Lambert. I genuinely think he's going to do great things with this club.
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(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/35/20/0,,10265~11608117,00.jpg)
I'm sorry thats nt a point, in scotland, thats 10 different meanings esp. looking at his facial expression. but what ever it is it will end in "...Ya fud"
Did ya no see the fucking ball or what Ya Fud
corrected it for you Danlanza
Spot on BV.
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Ah, our great leader doing some authoritative pointing work.
I love Lambert. I genuinely think he's going to do great things with this club.
His finger work is certainly an improvement on McLeish and his frankly baffling hand gestures.
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or O'drearys whistling.
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Ah, our great leader doing some authoritative pointing work.
I love Lambert. I genuinely think he's going to do great things with this club.
His finger work is certainly an improvement on McLeish and his frankly baffling hand gestures.
To be entirely honest, I've always thought the players take no notice of managers most of the time, and it's hard to see how they can convey what they want to say from the sideline.
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(http://www.dalton-roofing.co.uk/library_images/43_PointingSheffield.jpg)
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Ah, our great leader doing some authoritative pointing work.
I love Lambert. I genuinely think he's going to do great things with this club.
His finger work is certainly an improvement on McLeish and his frankly baffling hand gestures.
To be entirely honest, I've always thought the players take no notice of managers most of the time, and it's hard to see how they can convey what they want to say from the sideline.
Especially when they're a bit mumbly like Lambert. Maybe the explanation for our record defending corners is because the players are distracted by trying to work out what he's shouting?
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Robbie Keane, he's always pointing or doing stupid goal celebrations.
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Robbie Keane, he's always pointing or doing stupid goal celebrations.
Good call Chris, Keane is definitely a pointer par excellence. I think he'd quite have liked the odd Villa player to run into a bit of space from time to time, and seemed exasperated at just how alien a concept it was to everybody.
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Some of the finger-use that did my head in was the Anelka post-goal digital acrobatics when he held his linked hands on his chest and waggled the fingers. Other players - like the incomparably idiotic Bramble - also used to do it.
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Robbie Keane, he's always pointing or doing stupid goal celebrations.
Good call Chris, Keane is definitely a pointer par excellence. I think he'd quite have liked the odd Villa player to run into a bit of space from time to time, and seemed exasperated at just how alien a concept it was to everybody.
I thought that was really noticeable at times when he was with us, the total lack of movement, for someone who'd been playing at Spurs, must have been baffling.
I also thought Stephen Ireland, when he first joined, used to do a fair bit of that "astonished nobody moves off the ball" thing, right up until he thought "fuck it, who cares?".
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Obviously, some pointing on the pitch is good.
(http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ay_106070146.jpg)
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or O'drearys whistling.
I thought it was Gregory who did the whistling.
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It always looks to me that Andi is frantically jabbing at a Cash Machine that's eaten his card
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I dunno why, but I always assume it is a machine gun loading tribute to Call of Duty, which they all seem to play.
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Ireland is way ahead of his time in terms of pointing, his open palmed gesture at his feet is the future for all aspiring pointers.
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