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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 04, 2013, 09:33:23 AM
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Available Monday evening.
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Guzan, Lowton, Clark, Baker, Bennett, Westwood, Delph, N’Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Weimann, Benteke
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Subs: Given, Sylla, Holman, Dawkins, Lichaj, El Ahmadi, Bowery.
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Would have originally liked a more defensive line up, but City's team looks fairly defensive itself so maybe it'll be alright.
*prays*
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Fuck's sake Vlaar. Who does our medicals, David Blunkett?
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Fuck's sake Vlaar. Who does our medicals, David Blunkett?
same bloke who did Jenas
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Vlaar still not fit then, fucking hell. Never the less come on you Villa boys, a win tonight would be incredible.
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What is the deal with Vlaar? I thought he was back in training.
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That's some bench we have, Jesus we are doomed.
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What is the deal with Vlaar? I thought he was back in training.
did it on the playstation this morning
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Fuck's sake Vlaar. Who does our medicals, David Blunkett?
Out of interest, do David Blunkett's eyes go normal when he has an orgasm?
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Every time the team is announced my heart sinks once more, christ I hope the pain ends soon, one way or another.
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Right come on Villa it's an opportunity for us, get at the oil rich bastards!
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Every time the team is announced my heart sinks once more.....
Ha ha! I know what you mean mate - I'm the same! I somehow imagine we have better players than we really do, as if we've magically signed some players between the last game and this.
And then every week I see the teamsheet and think 'Oh. Right.'
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At least Aguero is missing for them. We only have to worry about Tevez and Dzecko.
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What is the deal with Vlaar? I thought he was back in training.
When you think of the pain paul mcgrath played through for the villa its sad that vlaar is missing - sometimes you have to play with a bit of pain for the cause.
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MAN CITY: Hart, Zabaleta, Clichy, Nastasic, K Toure, Rodwell, Y Toure, Garcia, Silva, Milner, Tevez. Subs: Pantilimon, Lescott, Kolarov, Nasri, Sinclair, Barry, Dzeko.
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My heart always sinks a bit when we play them and I see Milner in their side.
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What is the deal with Vlaar? I thought he was back in training.
When you think of the pain paul mcgrath played through for the villa its sad that vlaar is missing - sometimes you have to play with a bit of pain for the cause.
At the same time I'd rather have Vlaar fit next week and the week after.
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Fuck's sake Vlaar. Who does our medicals, David Blunkett?
This is what riles me. A simple Google search would have revealed Ron is more play-doh than concrete. Yet in two transfer windows, we signed no other experienced defenders. That's just f*cking retarded.
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Every time the team is announced my heart sinks once more.....
Ha ha! I know what you mean mate - I'm the same! I somehow imagine we have better players than we really do, as if we've magically signed some players between the last game and this.
And then every week I see the teamsheet and think 'Oh. Right.'
Meant to ask you if you fancied watching this in a local hostelry but completely forgot. Oh well, I'm sure you didn't want to see a grown man cry anyway!
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Bottle of cava and my new hd box - the day i got sky we beat newcastle and carew got a hat trick - now the day i get hd i fancy benteke hat trick - 4-2 villa, good stuff this wine , maybe another bottle required from shed :D
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That's true provided he is. If he was back in training on Friday he should definitely be fit for Saturday.
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My heart always sinks a bit when we play them and I see Milner in their side.
Yeah, it's like the bit on Bullseye when Jim Bowen used to say "Here's what you could have won...".
Except it was usually a speedboat. And the contestant lived in Stoke.
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That's true provided he is. If he was back in training on Friday he should definitely be fit for Saturday.
Last year he wad due to be out 2 weeks and missed nearly 2 months - i wont hold my breath on his fitness .
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That back four provides me with no confidence whatsoever I'm afraid. I've got a feeling this could be another twatting tonight. *Secretly hopes that by saying this we grind out an impressive 1-0 win*
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My heart always sinks a bit when we play them and I see Milner in their side.
Yeah, it's like the bit on Bullseye when Jim Bowen used to say "Here's what you could have won...".
Except it was usually a speedboat. And the contestant lived in Stoke.
Lambert has the look of the none darts playing cleverer one of the couples having to get triple 20 to get through to the next round.
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Fuck's sake Vlaar. Who does our medicals, David Blunkett?
Out of interest, do David Blunkett's eyes go normal when he has an orgasm?
Why are you asking me?
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Every time the team is announced my heart sinks once more.....
Ha ha! I know what you mean mate - I'm the same! I somehow imagine we have better players than we really do, as if we've magically signed some players between the last game and this.
And then every week I see the teamsheet and think 'Oh. Right.'
Meant to ask you if you fancied watching this in a local hostelry but completely forgot. Oh well, I'm sure you didn't want to see a grown man cry anyway!
I'd have been up for that, actually - have to try next time maybe?
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My heart always sinks a bit when we play them and I see Milner in their side.
Yeah, it's like the bit on Bullseye when Jim Bowen used to say "Here's what you could have won...".
Except it was usually a speedboat. And the contestant lived in Stoke.
Lambert has the look of the none darts playing cleverer one of the couples having to get triple 20 to get through to the next round.
Nothing for two in a bed - not in this game!
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I hate watching Gary Neville's analysis of the weekends games on Monday Night Football. It just highlights how poor we are in comparison to some of these teams. Mutter, mutter, groan, grumble.
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Listening on the wireless at work, I've just started breathing in ahead of the inevitable elongated sigh that accompanies, not only the game, but also Lamberts post match comments.
Oh lady luck, do bestow us your mercy for once....
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Bottle of cava and my new hd box - the day i got sky we beat newcastle and carew got a hat trick - now the day i get hd i fancy benteke hat trick - 4-2 villa, good stuff this wine , maybe another bottle required from shed :D
I piss out Cava every morning.£2 a bottle to you.
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Fucking hell 52 goals conceded all season.
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Bennett will be ripped apart today :(
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hi guys :(
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I really wish we had a defence, because the forwards look decent but we have to make do now. Come on Villa pull off a massive shock and do the business.
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Evening all.
Hmm.
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I think Yaya Toure is gonna tear us a new one unfortunately.
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Fuck's sake Vlaar. Who does our medicals, David Blunkett?
Out of interest, do David Blunkett's eyes go normal when he has an orgasm?
Not according to his Mrs.
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Expecting a hammering, so nothing to lose. We need a decent start, try and put that 15 point gap in their mind.
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Come on Villa step up tonight, this is your time to atone for some of the embarrassments this year.
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We should be 3 nil up by now, whats going on ?
Shit, we have not kicked off yet.
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Wish we would have gone a bit stronger in the middle with Sylla coming in. Wasn't it Viera that recommended him to Mancini and said he's the new Yaya?? Tonight we could have found out if he is!
Typical PL though 4 forwards again, apparently attack is the best form of defence, but not really.
Come on Villa!!!!!!
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Jeez. That line up looks like a reserve side.
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Christ on a bike, that defence.....
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Right competent defending please Villa, I don't care how you do it. Just fucking do it.
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crowd of 'around 30,000', fucking hell.
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decent start.
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Christ on a bike, that defence.....
The same as the rest of the season.....minus Vlaar, who is in and out anyway.
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Bright start, albeit with too many misplaced passes.
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Great ball Bennett, nice stuff.
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Is the half we play well in?
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Evening chaps, confident?
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good tracking Delph, we're pressing the ball well.
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Fergal - no!
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Booing Milner? Idiots.
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Milner getting booed, bit unfair
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Evening chaps, confident?
Never confident, always hopeful, usually disappointed.
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It's only a handful booing Milner, you always get your idiots.
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Fergal - no!
Come on tim, we can be an honest bunch of lads playing in a paper thin squad....
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Plucky underdogs
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Loving the astronauts
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We look ok going forward, its the defence that might be a worry...
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Got to be careful not give them space around the box. We've played ok so far.
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I may be tempting fate here, but has Rodwell ever had a great game?
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Good start. Delph impressing again. Very disciplined.
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Loving the astronauts
Me too, probably gonna be the best thing about this game
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Got to be careful not give them space around the box. We've played ok so far.
Who the space men?
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Fergal - no!
Come on tim, we can be an honest bunch of lads playing in a paper thin squad....
I found the optimism boost I needed, on the BBC:
"This is the best four minutes of football I've seen Villa play this season."
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It's a pretty lethargic start from Man City, you'd have to say. Still, decent enough from Villa, without really threatening.
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Fergal - no!
Come on tim, we can be an honest bunch of lads playing in a paper thin squad....
I found the optimism boost I needed, on the BBC:
"This is the best four minutes of football I've seen Villa play this season."
Feck
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Delph has done really nicely.
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How are we playing ?
No tv at home so need you lot to keep me informed please. Ta muchly. UTV.
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Lowton's distribution one of the few gripes so far.
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How are we playing ?
No tv at home so need you lot to keep me informed please. Ta muchly. UTV.
Pretty well to be honest.
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some good stuff here, if only we had a bit of composure and and and...
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Benteke doing well up front.
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Solid start. We need to keep it tight, aggressive and up-tempo and hopefully their defence will make a mistake or two.
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Booing Milner? Idiots.
Missus at work, no babysitter, so my seat is being occupied tonight by somebody that I stopped taking with me, whenever my brother was unavailable, because he just used to hurl abuse at milner when he was playing for us. Reckoned he was shit.
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How about some luck tonight? Would be nice
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Delph has done really nicely.
I agree. I had a right old rant about Delph a few weeks ago, and have to admit I'd just given up on him. Since then, he's got much better and has gone a very small way to suggesting that he is learning, which in turn means that maybe, just maybe, Lambert is capable of improving players.
I'm far from convinced about that last bit, though.
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Well played lads, good ball and good work N'Zog and Gabby.
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A few wisely few million spent in the transfer window would have seen us piss to safety. If we go down for the sake of that mismanagement it will be criminal...
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fuck off the line.
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Ooooooh nearly.
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Ooh! Off the line from Benteke's header. Close, but Tevez in the way.
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feck, off the line..
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OOOPPHH. Close.
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Great play Gabby, and so unlucky.
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Save Guzan.
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And that's a decent save from Guzan, too.
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Uh oh...
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corner, feck
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And that's a decent save from Guzan, too.
Tidy.
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Rodwell is injured, he's off.
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Come on you Villa boys!!!!
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Oh bollocks leave Rodwell on please. Awful.
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Shame, he's utterly overrated.
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We've done really well here, we just need to carry on now and I mean for the rest of the season.
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Dzeko. fuck.
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as good as we are doing here i just get the feeling man citeh have another couple of gears to go up..
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Double bollocks. Dzeko on. Last city striker I wanted our defence to face.
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as good as we are doing here i just get the feeling man citeh have another couple of gears to go up..
Usually I'd agree but their season is essentially over. They can be beaten tonight.
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as good as we are doing here i just get the feeling man citeh have another couple of gears to go up..
Well yeah, but we're playing well. Whatever happens this game, we need to continue playing well for the rest of the season.
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Sounds a very strange atmosphere there tonight.
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as good as we are doing here i just get the feeling man citeh have another couple of gears to go up..
Well yeah, but we're playing well. Whatever happens this game, we need to continue playing well for the rest of the season.
agreed, a good performance will give us confidence.
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Come on Gabby that's sloppy, Bennett is doing well.
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as good as we are doing here i just get the feeling man citeh have another couple of gears to go up..
Well yeah, but we're playing well. Whatever happens this game, we need to continue playing well for the rest of the season.
Trouble is we'll play well against City for 80 minutes, lose with a bit of pride 1-0, then be absolutely pigging awful against Reading.
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as good as we are doing here i just get the feeling man citeh have another couple of gears to go up..
Exactly how I feel, I'm afraid. No matter how poor they might be playing, you just know that Tevez or Dzeko or Toure or someone can come up with something for them.
I'm just hoping their players have lost their drive, really.
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Lowton that's sloppy, come on.
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as good as we are doing here i just get the feeling man citeh have another couple of gears to go up..
Well yeah, but we're playing well. Whatever happens this game, we need to continue playing well for the rest of the season.
Trouble is we'll play well against City for 80 minutes, lose with a bit of pride 1-0, then be absolutely pigging awful against Reading.
If we were 2-0 up with 15 mins left would you take the draw if offered?
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Lowntons having as poor a game as I can remember.
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Lowton's having a poor game going forward.
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Bennett conversely is doing very well.
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Lowntons having as poor a game as I can remember.
He just looks really tired to me, burnt out.
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Delph's been head and shoulders the best player on the pitch. In either shirt, so far.
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Stupid Clark just stupid.
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And that's just an idiotic foul to give away yet again from Clark.
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Just realised I was posting in the pre match thread, oooops! Thought it was quiet haha!
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Stupid fucking defending from Clark.
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oh fuck
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Good save Guzan.
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good save
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Tevez is so ugly, I wonder if any of his mothers children lived?
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When was the last time we had a solid defence?
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From being such a promising kid, Clark is now the last name I want to see in the starting line up. Hope he recovers that promise.
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From being such a promising kid, Clark is now the last name I want to see in the starting line up. Hope he recovers that promise.
I just think playing without senior support has destroyed a potentially very very good centre back. Fingers crossed he ones back.
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Lowton stop ball watching.
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Tevez is so ugly, I wonder if any of his mothers children lived?
I be the doctors slapped his mum...
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From being such a promising kid, Clark is now the last name I want to see in the starting line up. Hope he recovers that promise.
He's sort of the opposite of what I wrote before about Delph - he just hasn't improved at all, in fact I think he has got steadily poorer, and so in turn that worries me that the coaching staff don't have the ability to improve our players.
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We need to step up again. On the backfoot for past 10 mins.
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Well in Clark
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oh. fuck. Guzan i love you.
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Blimey, that would have been a good goal! Off the post for Zabaleta.
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Bit of luck there at last!
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feck, we parted like the Red Sea
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Fucking hell they hit the post, we've dropped off here. We need to get on the ball again.
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phew. Luck. Long may it continue.
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Great save that was from Guzan.
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Actually, that's a very tidy save indeed!
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Cracking save.
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Citeh are on top now.
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I wish we still had Milner....
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Lowton. League one stuff that. Too way for Milner. City have finally worked out to go wide.
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Shocking defending there, Milner made a hash of it. Wake up Villa.
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That is embarrassing defending. Just shite.
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Hanging on. Half time come quick.
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Good save again.
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Well, this is taking a turn for the worse.
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Great save Guzan, Fucking hell we're making stupid errors now. Wake the fuck up Villa.
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33% possession? I thought we had more than that...
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That was really poor from Westwood. Guzan keeping us in it.
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33% possession? I thought we had more than that...
last ten mins.
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Westwood PASS it
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Oh, Westwood. What a poor decision to shoot there. Waste of a chance, that.
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Westwood. Thats the worst shot since Bannan.
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Can't give them that much space, got to get back to pressing them.
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33% possession? I thought we had more than that...
last ten mins.
Ahhhh, bout right then :(
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Get stuck in son!
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Ace from Toure and Benteke! Proper old school tussle.
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We need another right back in the summer, Lowton needs to have competition at right back. He's done alright this season, but his level has dropped off.
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We need another right back in the summer, Lowton needs to have competition at right back. He's done alright this season, but his level has dropped off.
We need plenty this summer...
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A "free kick aimed in the general direction of Baker" just about sums up the overall quality of our set-piece taking, sadly.
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We need another right back in the summer, Lowton needs to have competition at right back. He's done alright this season, but his level has dropped off.
He's been poor for ages. Got nowhere near his man just then.
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The introduction of a second striker has made a real difference to City and let them push higher up - if Villa don't adjust we will be screwed in this match.
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Clark you fucking idiot, well done.
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Clark is a fucking twat.
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Clark you useless bastard.
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Fucking Clark. Fuck off.
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Clark. I'm speechless.
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Fuckin' Clark.
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That is absolutely critical, and has killed us. We'll get nothing now.
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Clark you utter twat
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Clark sucks. He needs to sit.
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I'm not just saying this because I'm annoyed, but he's easily the worst defender I've ever seen in a Villa shirt.
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He is just utterly crap, nowhere near good enough.
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Well done Clark
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Great fucking timing as well you tit.
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What happened?
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Last minute of normal time...why can't they defend for a whole half?
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It's just joke defending. Is that being a youngster or just a very average player being found out at the highest level?
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And calemetous Clark strikes again
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Game well and truly over, they'll get 4 or 5 now.
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That sort of error is criminal given the effort the team has given this half.
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What did he do?
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Surely it was a foul, he's legs were swept without getting any where nr the ball...
But the decision making in his head to do it as last man was ridiculous!
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Oh for a defence.
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Look at Clark's dismal face....who on earth was he having a go at after they scored as well.
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No, that is just stupidity incarnate.
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Game over Just a case of how many for City now.Pathetic
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And why the shite is he our captain? I have never seen anything to suggest he should be.
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Stop whinging Clark. You fucked up. Your fault.
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Why is Clark complaining to Mike Dean? That's cost us so much now.
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It's just joke defending. Is that being a youngster or just a very average player being found out at the highest level?
Young he may be, but that is down to purely moronic footballing sense. I wouldn't expect kids in our primary school team to try a Cruyff turn there.
They would do it, mind, but I wouldn't expect them to.
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Clarky at it again. He really is tosh. I've given up hope on the lad to be honest. I say lad, but he's been around long enough now to be past this sort of frightening inconsistency. To me he's as error magnetic as Titus Shambles, without the physical presence and turn of pace Shambles has. So basically yeah, he's not as good as Titus Shambles. Which means he's just not that good.
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
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What the fuck is Clark moaning at the ref for? All that hard work to be ruined by one stupid mistake.
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Fucking idiot. He may have had his ankle clipped, but what a ridiculous thing to be doing. Dickhead
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Look at Clark's dismal face....who on earth was he having a go at after they scored as well.
The ref. Said he was tripped up. Delph said the same.
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Missed the goal, my link died....
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
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Risky decision by Clark to play with the ball there, yes. But he was fouled. Dzeko took his legs as Clark did the drag back. Bollocks decision by the ref
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Comically amateur Villa.
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Fuck it
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That right there is why we are where we are.
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It's a daft decision and was totally unnecessary and it's the sort of appalling mistake we've made all year. They need a massive display in the second half now.
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He'll be in the team on Saturday. And Cilla fuckin Black and Les bastard Dawson will be on the bench again.
On and on and on we go in this unforgivable groundhog day of a season.
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Randy should have invested in a proper defence in January. Criminal.
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It looked like a foul, he was tripped. We got no luck there and no luck with thee Rodwell injury in a strange way which has improved them. We deserved better for our performance in the first half hour but the longer it went on, the more they came into it and they turned the screw alarmingly quickly.
We are not a particularly good side but we are not a particularly lucky side either.
That said, we have been letting Tevez coast into the penalty box unmarked repeatedly, I have been screaming at the fecking TV. You can see both midfielders and defenders looking at him as he strolls towards the position Cazorla scored from last week - they just haven't managed to pick him out. Wish these kids would pissing learn from their mistakes.
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TBH, given it's added time of the 1st half and going in level would have been massive why didn't silly twat just put it down the line? Why do that as the last man?
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Not clever from Clark but he was fouled.
The second half is going to be interesting.
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How many points do we have after going a goal down this season? Less than 3-5 tops I reckon. Tempted to switch off.
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Clarkes' a fucking donkey, nevermind not being captain material he's not even squad material. How many teams haven't turned up against us in the last 6 weeks and still taken the points because our shit defence is packed full of errors.
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Risky decision by Clark to play with the ball there, yes. But he was fouled. Dzeko took his legs as Clark did the drag back. Bollocks decision by the ref
Honestly? I'm at the game so haven't seen replays.
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
It's either Randy or Lambert. Either way if we go down that's the reason why, sheer incompetence by the people running the club.
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Oh for a defence, it's all we need. Now back to the game, we need to go back to hassling them and having a go.
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Where the fuck is paper mâché Ron? We're going down the pan whilst him n Richard fucking dunne bleed out coffers dry.
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Heartbreaking - worked hard and given city a game only for such inexcusable defending - and lambert reckons clark will be a top defender?
Delph has impressed , nzogbia needs to up his game but that was utterly inexcusable from clark - just not acceptable at this level - schoolboy defending!
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Randy should have invested in a proper defence in January. Criminal.
No shit Dr Sherlock :)
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Clark will be good enough next reason if we get relegated. If he is a Premiership player then so am I. Absolute shockingly error prone.
I'll give his fucking Cruyff turn.
That's the good half out of the way. Ho hum
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
I'm with Risso on this one mate. There's no way Clark should be anywhere near our starting 11. For that to have happened, Lambert needed to buy A- A defender in Jan and B- A new pair of glasses at any point this season to notice how godawful he's been.
Our defence isn't good enough almost to a man. But Clark's persistent howlers take the biscuit. He's a liability who should have been replaced ASAP in Jan.
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
Yes, why is it the managers fault we have no cover for the powder puff named Ron that he bought.
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Well I'm keeping the faith. Still fancy us for a point. Just in case i've had a fiver at 13/2 for the draw and a fiver at 22/1 for the win.
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He is fouled, but he shouldn't have been doing that.
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Clark was fouled, we are fucked
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How many points do we have after going a goal down this season? Less than 3-5 tops I reckon. Tempted to switch off.
I think it is 2 - Albion and Swansea away.
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Foul or not, Clark needs shooting for that. Wanker.
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Randy should have invested in a proper defence in January. Criminal.
Lambert buys the players - not randy! He chose sylla and dawkins rather than a defender!
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Not a foul for me he fucked up ..he dragged the ball back and slipped over.
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That's a foul. Still, Clark shouldn't have been putting the ball in that danger.. however, his legs are swept.
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We're going to get fucking hammered now.
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
Yes, why is it the managers fault we have no cover for the powder puff named Ron that he bought.
So it's PL's fault Clark did what he did? You're mental!
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Randy should have invested in a proper defence in January. Criminal.
No shit Dr Sherlock :)
If you are over again we need to go for a few pints. Christ this is awful!
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
Yes, only me....of course.
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It wasn't a foul on Clark, he turned and was slipping regardless of Dzeko.
People blaming bad luck are deluded. WE are the sole reason for our own demise. All the luck in the world wouldn't help us.
We are our own worst enemy.
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Foul or not Clark should never have messed around.
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It is a foul, but he never ever should have been trying that.
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How many points do we have after going a goal down this season? Less than 3-5 tops I reckon. Tempted to switch off.
Apparently it's two. Oh joy. I'm really starting to think we are going down.
Funnily enough, I spent a good bit of the first half thinking 'this team will be quite good in the championship'. Delph looks good. Westwood not as good as when he started. Benteke and CNZ struggling to impose themselves. Bennett has been a good outlet. Clark and Baker were doing reasonably well until . . . We've struggled with Silva and Tevez's interplay once their sub came on
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And for what we did spend on Sylla and Dawkins, as well as earned from Warnock and Hutton, no one could seriously tell me we couldn't scrape enough pennies together to buy a defender better than Clark and Baker. There's plenty of defenders who can head a ball and throw in a tackle, with enough concentration not to cock up 2-3 times a match. We could get better in League 1-2. I don't care if Clark's "okay" on the ball for a centre half. He's a nightmare.
I can't blame Randy on this one. There was enough money there to sign players. Good players? Maybe not. But I'd take an average defender over the mediocrity we currently have.
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Randy should have invested in a proper defence in January. Criminal.
No shit Dr Sherlock :)
If you are over again we need to go for a few pints. Christ this is awful!
I should be over at the end of the month, we can have a few then... Hopefully.
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Why didn't Clark just grab the ball after he went down/slipped/got tripped, whatever??
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It's an obvious foul. Clark HAS slipped, but he's kept his feet and is pushing himself up and then his feet are swept from under him.
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Risky decision by Clark to play with the ball there, yes. But he was fouled. Dzeko took his legs as Clark did the drag back. Bollocks decision by the ref
Honestly? I'm at the game so haven't seen replays.
For me, Dzeko was nowhere near the ball and brings him down. Clark shouldn't be trying that there, but he outskilled Dzeko and he brought him down from what I see in replays.
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
YYes, why is it the managers fault we have no cover for the powder puff named Ron that he bought.
So it's PL's fault Clark did what he did? You're mental!
Yes, it's Lambert's fault we have somebody so poor as to do that, and cut out the schoolboy insults please.
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
Yes, why is it the managers fault we have no cover for the powder puff named Ron that he bought.
So it's PL's fault Clark did what he did? You're mental!
Yes because Clark isn't good enough to be in the team. He shouldn't be playing. If he's Lambert's only option it's Lamberts fault. He had a month to get in some defensive cover and he did nothing. He also chose to sign Vlaar who had a dodgy injury record.
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He is fouled, but he shouldn't have been doing that.
He was barely touched and gets out-muscled every single week by every opposition centre forward. He's physically not imposing enough and isn't good enough on the ball and, worst of all, makes stupid mistakes in almost every game he plays. Somebody compared him to Titus Bramble, but I don't think he's as 'good' as that.
Lowton has also had a mare. The defending from a corner in particular was spectacularly poor and has given the ball away every time he's had it in their half.
Delph has played well and Benteke / Gabby have done OK. Guzan again has been good.
This is looking very much like a "play like that against *insert fellow struggler* and we'll be OK" kind of routine loss. Defend like that against any premier league club and you'll struggle.
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Why didn't Lambert buy a defender in January? Why? Why? WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Ha! Only you could blame that on the manager.
Yes, why is it the managers fault we have no cover for the powder puff named Ron that he bought.
So it's PL's fault Clark did what he did? You're mental!
It's his fault he didn't buy a defender. If he'd bought a defender with a brain then Clark wouldn't have been out there to showcase his stupidity like that.
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Need a miracle now, because we have no guts and we'll buckle.
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Not a foul for me he fucked up
They're not mutually exclusive.
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Not a foul for me he fucked up
They're not mutually exclusive.
Agreed.
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That's why we're going down... That's why we're going down...
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Clark was careless -we paid the price - he is to blame , nobody else , should have cleared the ball.
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Kuwait flag in P8.The oil money is coming!
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Seeing that we had more possession in the first hald - 53%, though fewer shots. Who actually thought that we would do any better than 0-0/0-1?
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We can keep bemoaning fouls that should be given, but it's players putting themselves in these positions in the first place when they fanny around too much or look like headless chickens. It's the same with Southampton's penalty that shouldn't have been. We put ourselves in a stupid position. In this game refs will always make bad calls. Don't give them a chance to make a call against you in or around your own box. It's piss poor be it overall organisation or individual errors we've been like a school team's D team at the back this season.
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I'm bored of how many times we shoot ourselves in the foot. Fucking man the fuck up Villa.
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C'mon lets see what Billy McNeill mk II said at half time.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIzBLRVCZJc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIzBLRVCZJc)
It isn't a foul, he slips. First look I thought he'd been tripped, the second replay just shows him slipping and having the ball nicked away. Terrible player.
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Clark was careless -we paid the price - he is to blame , nobody else , should have cleared the ball.
He didn't ask to be fouled though, did he? Clark should have cleared the ball, but the ref should have seen the foul
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Clark should be shot with balls of his own shite....who does he think he is..Alan Hansen. Fuck me he never fails to amaze.
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It's this bad I wish we still had Collins. At least he would have sent that ball into orbit and have it come down with ice on it.
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Definitely a foul on Clark. Even if his foot was slipping having it kicked away removed any chance of him recovering.
It was a bad decision by him to do what he did, but what I don't understand is that when we try to close defenders down there is always a spare one to get the opposition out of trouble. Clark had absolutely no options there. Where was the full back or the deep midfielder?
What we don't need now is two dick penalty decisions like we had at Eastlands.
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When vlaar is back Clark needs to be dropped baker hasn't put a foot wrong
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Why did CNZ swing his boot?
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No way can I see us getting back into this, not even with a wibble...
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Stop fucking backing off defence.
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Huge acres of space between our defence and midfield again, this isn't going to end well.
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We can keep bemoaning fouls that should be given, but it's players putting themselves in these positions in the first place when they fanny around too much or look like headless chickens. It's the same with Southampton's penalty that shouldn't have been. We put ourselves in a stupid position. In this game refs will always make bad calls. Don't give them a chance to make a call against you in or around your own box. It's piss poor be it overall organisation or individual errors we've been like a school team's D team at the back this season.
Well said. Blaming the ref is what Easter Island Head and Potato Head do. It's boring. The referee didn't try and do a FUCKING Cruyff turn as last defender - no it was Clark!!!
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Huge acres of space between our defence and midfield again, this isn't going to end well.
Was it ever?
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This Sylla bloke must be shit if he can't get into this shambles.
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
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Huge acres of space between our defence and midfield again, this isn't going to end well.
Was it ever?
Big difference on our season losing by 1 or 2 compared to 4 or 5.
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Did Benteke just smile?
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Huge acres of space between our defence and midfield again, this isn't going to end well.
Yes it's just ridiculous how little idea any of our back line and midfield have in what they're supposed to be doing. For all that we have some talented attacking players, we never get them in the game nearly enough.
Just want this game over with now and move on to the next two, with hopefully some kicked asses walking out onto the pitch (WITH a gameplan).
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I always thought we'd lose this, but I would of liked to make City win it themselves.
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
Slower, smaller and weaker than most of the other Premier League teams. Have we played a single good 90 minutes this season?
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
Slower, smaller and weaker than most of the other Premier League teams. Have we played a single good 90 minutes this season?
Not sure, Liverpool?
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That was actually quite amusing from Bennett, there. Rubbish, but amusing.
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Ref gave them a free kick for Gabby turning someone. Bullshit.
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
Slower, smaller and weaker than most of the other Premier League teams. Have we played a single good 90 minutes this season?
Not sure, Liverpool?
Cracking result, but we were absolutely terrible for the first twenty minutes or so, could easily have been a couple of goals down before we scored.
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How many times can we 'go again'
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
Slower, smaller and weaker than most of the other Premier League teams. Have we played a single good 90 minutes this season?
Not sure, Liverpool?
Cracking result, but we were absolutely terrible for the first twenty minutes or so, could easily have been a couple of goals down before we scored.
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
Slower, smaller and weaker than most of the other Premier League teams. Have we played a single good 90 minutes this season?
Not sure, Liverpool?
Thought we mugged them to be honest, we we're really clinical.
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Lowton fucking hell you just nearly gave them a goal, shocking.
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More men against boys defending.
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
Slower, smaller and weaker than most of the other Premier League teams. Have we played a single good 90 minutes this season?
Not sure, Liverpool?
Cracking result, but we were absolutely terrible for the first twenty minutes or so, could easily have been a couple of goals down before we scored.
Can you rephrase the question to ask for 65 mins?
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This defending! I just.......what on Earth are they doing?!
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Radio 5 commentary team laying into Lambert now, albiet with Savage but, it pains me to say it, he is right. Why no experience added in January?
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Our defence is just horrible, and it is the reason we're where we are.
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PANIC STATIONS. Can you coach someone to not play like a headless chicken who panics everytime the ball comes into the danger zone?
I think they're just not good enough.
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What is this system he is playing? There were four stood upfront when they attacked. Sorry Lambert your complete lack of any tactical knowledge is taking us down. 424 against the champions?
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Radio 5 commentary team laying into Lambert now, albiet with Savage but, it pains me to say it, he is right. Why no experience added in January?
Considering he is mates with Macini I think he has been objective so far
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Our players seem to lack physical fitness.
Slower, smaller and weaker than most of the other Premier League teams. Have we played a single good 90 minutes this season?
Not sure, Liverpool?
Cracking result, but we were absolutely terrible for the first twenty minutes or so, could easily have been a couple of goals down before we scored.
Can you rephrase the question to ask for 65 mins?
Ha! I suppose it is a bit harsh to grumble about a 3-1 win at Anfield!
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Which was the last match we didn't score in?
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We are ragged here, a complete mess. No experience and no spine for fucks sake.
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Whatever happens tonight it won't relegate us.
Reading, QPR, Norwich, Fulham, Liverpool, Stoke, Sunderland and Wigan.
They are the games we need to be getting a minimum of 13-14 points from to be in with a chance of staying up.
Will still be possible after tonight whatever happens.
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"Looking a bit ragged" says Alan Smith.
"Looking absolutely shite" says I.
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Looking ominous 2nd half - nzogbia poor tonight , can only see adding another at the moment - we are lacking a spark.
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Which was the last match we didn't score in?
Southampton January 12th
Last time we didn't concede? Stoke December 8th, 3 months ago.
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If anyone is near the touchline...can you please shout out to any plonker in claret and blue that its gone half time and we are playing the other way now.
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Well done Clark
How the the conversation changes on this thread amazes me. This is the best thread for any ex-pat to log onto, on any site. This site gives me eyes, like i was back home, at Villa Park, tonight.
Few beers with the lads befpre the game, after doing a 6-2 shift. Walking from the Eddy or the Vine to the game.
Getting in sight of the Holte End now.
There we go, i can see the brickwork and the badge now, i'm safe.
'' Burger with onions please mate""
'' That's 3.50 please mate''
'' Cheers mate. Se you after the game for another.''
And then you get to the steps and the handrails.
There is no better place to be in the World to me, nowhere.
Your in. The atmosphere builds, minute by minute, until you can't wait any longer. Up the stairs you go.
And then it hits you. YOU ARE IN THE HOLTE END AT VILLA.
And there you will spend the rest of your life, no matter where you are in the world.
HOLTE ENDERS IN THE SKY.
UTV tonight everbody.
Please move this to the Old sloppy bastard thread. Cheers.
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We've stunk this division out for too long now.
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If we get out of this one at less than 2-0 I'll be amazed. We should be 3-4 down by now.
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Clark sucks. He needs to sit.
What does that even mean?
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They just wait for our moves to break down.
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Weimann that is poor.
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No threat at all.
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Good move Villa.
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I'm fearing what kind of ''tactical changes'' Lambert comes up with to change this game. Something needs to be done though.
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Bring erm......move erm thingy, oh fuck it.
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Experience would lift us.
Shameful stewardship of our club, our defence is appalling.
Looking very ragged atm
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Clark sucks. He needs to sit.
What does that even mean?
Yeah man he needs to sit
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4-1-5 coming up......
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Bring Holman on, that's what I meant!!
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Baker your stupid fucking lunges, why?
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That's a free kick? What?
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Ridiculous free kick given away by baker- truly shocking central defenders.
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Ffs!!!!!
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Our centre halves are idiots. Holman on? oh dear.
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Bloody hell here comes holman - god help us!
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our best chance of a goal is if Barry comes on
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Holman.
Guh.
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Holman on for Zog, thats the one. Here we go, sing up Villa!!
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our best chance of a goal is if Barry comes on
Why did we re-sign him without anyone looking?
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Remember those couple of games where N'Zogbia was pretty good last month?
Those were the days, eh?
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Holman.... Lambert u cock
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Remember those couple of games where N'Zogbia was pretty good last month?
Those were the days, eh?
Well, that IS what you pay the money for.
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hey pelty, are you making the subs dude? Get the big lad on!
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Ridiculous free kick given away by baker- truly shocking central defenders.
Agreed, it's been like this now all season (and before) and the fact that we've done zero to address it means we'll deserve everything we get i'm afraid. That's what I find most pisses me off.
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Come on yam scrouts.
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Been putting off getting started on my MSc reading. Think I'll make a start now. Think the module on derivatives will be more understandable than trying to explain why Lambert didn't buy a defender.
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Any chance we can dig out the old Henson strip for the icing on the cake of our 1986/87 tribute season?
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We really don't need Delph to get booked, we need him for next couple of games.
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How does bennett even start a game he is useless
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Delph played well. Bennet is utter shite.
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Not great - one real attempt of note on target in 70 mins when we are supposedly fighting for our lives- must do better.
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Very harsh Bennett has done alright tonight on the whole.
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ref is shit. ffs.
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Load of reserve team players and championship never beens up against half hearted quality players who can move up a gear if needed. This is pure shit.
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Bennett is terrible
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The way this commentator says "Tevez" reminds me a lot of the way Ross says "Pivot" in Friends when they're trying to get a sofa up the stairs.
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Load of reserve team players and championship never beens up against half hearted quality players who can move up a gear if needed. This is pure shit.
THE GREATEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!
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Clark sucks. He needs to sit.
What does that even mean?
Yeah man he needs to sit
Is that sit whilst he sucks?
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Come on yam scrouts.
Come on you sprouts.
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Fucking hell Toure nearly scored.
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Let off then.
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Gabby has decided he doesn't want to move anymore.
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Oh piss off Holman you shite bastard.
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Why do we do this to ourselves? Shit last week. Shit this week. Shit next week.
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Ah. We seem to have reached that point of incompetence where I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Clark sucks. He needs to sit.
What does that even mean?
Yeah man he needs to sit
Is that sit whilst he sucks?
I think I might get the pelty quote on a t shirt
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Fuck it I'm sticking a tenner on a draw at 6/1. Make this misery more exciting.
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Groundhog day every match
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For someone who "bleeds Claret and Blue", Gabby's movement is appalling at times.
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Ah. We seem to have reached that point of incompetence where I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
You suck it up and go again.
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Equaliser in the 95th minute will do me.
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Groundhog day every match
Wait 'till fuckwits post match pearls of wisdom........
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Another incredible Guzan save from Yaya's shot btw.
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Fuck it I'm sticking a tenner on a draw at 6/1. Make this misery more exciting.
I think we will win this, but then I am fucking mad. W I B B L E :)
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Reading and qpr are sink or swim games- today we havent created and have given a stupid goal away- we cannot afford to play like this in the next 2 games or we will be down and out.
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Yep didn't notice that, well done Brad.
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Milner, international vs Lowton, League 1 and it fucking shows.
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Too many players who just shouldn't be anywhere near the match day squad. About 10 of 'em.
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Really poor Westwood.
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You'll be swell! You'll be great!
Gonna have the whole world on the plate!
Starting here, starting now,
honey, everything's coming up roses!
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Groundhog day every match
Wait 'till fuckwits post match pearls of wisdom........
What fuckwit would that be?
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Don't think Lowton has recovered from the Chelsea drubbing. He wasn't that bad beforehand. A few old heads around him would have helped him get a grip.
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There just isn't any real attacking plan is there? Run / hit and hope.
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Either Lambert is mad or I am.
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The Duchess of Cambridge is in Grimsby tomorrow.
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Why is Gabby still on. He's done.
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There just isn't any real attacking plan is there? Run / hit and hope.
Or any defensive one, either. You have to wonder just what it is Lambert and his coaches are actually good at.
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Why is Gabby still on. He's done.
Probably spent all his energy covering Bennett.
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
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Groundhog day every match
Wait 'till fuckwits post match pearls of wisdom........
What fuckwit would that be?
Why the manager of course, golly who else?
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As promising as Lowton and Westy have been at times, they've faded a lot in recent weeks, particularly Lowton. The whole defence is just struggling because they're all out of their depth.
For too many of our younger, less experienced players, this is too much too soon. Many just aren't good enough anyway.
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Either Lambert is mad or I am.
We must all be fucking mad...
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
Delph has comfortably been our best player tonight.
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
i thought delph has had a good match....
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Our new signings are obviously shiter than this. So what was the point is making signings if not to use them and try and change our fortunes?
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Groundhog day every match
Wait 'till fuckwits post match pearls of wisdom........
What fuckwit would that be?
Why the manager of course, golly who else?
Randy?
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As promising as Lowton and Westy have been at times, they've faded a lot in recent weeks, particularly Lowton. The whole defence is just struggling because they're all out of their depth.
For too many of our younger, less experienced players, this is too much too soon. Many just aren't good enough anyway.
They're all capable of playing a decent game. Just not the same one.
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We are never ever scoring here.
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That will be as many times in Grimsby as in Cambridge. Probably trying to distance herself from her mother-in-laws bowels.
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
Delph has comfortably been our best player tonight.
Delph has been better than most players in the City side too.
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As promising as Lowton and Westy have been at times, they've faded a lot in recent weeks, particularly Lowton. The whole defence is just struggling because they're all out of their depth.
For too many of our younger, less experienced players, this is too much too soon. Many just aren't good enough anyway.
Indeed. I think it's about as poor an example of how to manage and nurture promising talent as you'll see.
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Wheres Gabby gone?
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
i thought delph has had a good match....
Delph has done well.
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
Delph has comfortably been our best player tonight.
So, he doesn't score. Doesn't create. Doesn't protect.
What is his role? Another nothing midfielder like Westwood. They add nothing to a game. Don't drive us forward or protect the defense. We may have the worst centre mid partnership in the top flight.
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I could have had a couple of hrs on Skyrim....
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
Delph has comfortably been our best player tonight.
Guzan???
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Delph has been good.
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Lowton shocking marking.
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Not gabby off? Seriously?
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Gabby isn't moving. Weimann goes off.
WHAT.
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
Delph has comfortably been our best player tonight.
Guzan???
He's been good too. But Delph has been better in my opinion.
He's been sparky, has retained the ball and driven us forward.
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I'm really starting to think we may grind out a 1 nil loss here.
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Gabby isn't moving. Weimann goes off.
WHAT.
Gotta keep the talisman on....
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Dawkins on
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Ah good Holman is knackered and ambling about.
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I'm really starting to think we may grind out a 1 nil loss here.
Dreamland.
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El Hadiwotsit
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KEA not Sylla...
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Why no Sylla on really f''ks me off
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I'm really starting to think we may grind out a 1 nil loss here.
Good result then... Fuck me how shit are things?
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We're are coming across on the radio like a fire that is slowly going out................
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
Delph has comfortably been our best player tonight.
Guzan???
He's been good too. But Delph has been better in my opinion.
He's been Ailsa Stewart, has retained the ball and driven us forward.
Good old word filter!
Test: sparky
S P A R K Y
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This is a good weekend for us. We've pulled back some vital goal difference on Reading and Wigan........
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He's been bought for the Championship
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Lowton
Bennett
Clark
Baker
Westwood
Delph
None of them are premier league standard players.
Delph has comfortably been our best player tonight.
Guzan???
He's been good too. But Delph has been better in my opinion.
He's been Ailsa Stewart, has retained the ball and driven us forward.
Good old word filter!
Test: Ailsa Stewart
S P A R K Y
Haha. Ace!
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No creation at all.
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That was a penalty.
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That was a penalty.
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That's a penalty by the way. Definite.
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Snap Paul
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Pants.
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This is a good weekend for us. We've pulled back some vital goal difference on Reading and Wigan........
Not being sarcastic. I agree with this. Next two are the big games, keeping it tight was always key tonight, a point would have been a bonus.
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At least we are Carbon Neutral. The club doesn't have a future, but thankfully the planet does.
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100% penalty. Disgusting. Ref bottled it.
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With the exception of Benteke none of the players he bought in the summer are Premiership standard and the young players, with the exception of Weimann have been overrated.
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C'mon lard arse still time for an equaliser please.
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4 minutes to save the planet.
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There's another one to chalk off on the "we'll be alright-o-meter".
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Good decision by Barry to stand next to Platt then. He looks anorexic by comparison.
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One thing about the penalty was noone really went up for it, apart from Benteke - a bit like an unconvincing caught behind appeal.
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4 mins added time
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With the exception of Benteke none of the players he bought in the summer are Premiership standard and the young players, with the exception of Weimann have been overrated.
This.
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Get the ball in the fookin area!
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Delph a well earned MOTM
Dawkins looks a bit ropey doesn't he?
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With the exception of Benteke none of the players he bought in the summer are Premiership standard and the young players, with the exception of Weimann have been overrated.
Have to agree with this. Only decent buys he's made have been Guzan and Benteke the rest look what they are, lower league players. About £18 million spent on shite again.
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Another defeat in a cup final then.
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Very depressing facing Milner and Barry today. Seems such a long time ago when we had that sort of quality. :(
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get up there guzan
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T.w.a.t
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Great corner, simply terrific!
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What a fucking diabolical corner, criminal.
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That's why we're going down etc.
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Wow. That's the worst corner I've ever seen. Remarkable.
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Ace.
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get up there guzan
actually don't bother
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Oh fuck Delph booked and now out of Reading and QPR.
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Good to see a bit of urgency last couple of minutes though.
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And there's Delph's yellow card, brilliant.
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Delph booked. Great.
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Fuck off referee.
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Hurray.
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Oooooooh well done Delph. Smart play.
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Great Delph out fir QPR and Reading Ffs
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Last time we will play City tonight for a few years unless we draw them in the cup cus we are going down
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Another hard luck story.
Delph has been fantastic. Benteke and Gabby ok. Everyone else tries but aren't good enough. Dawkins looks like a player who nobody has heard of for a reason.
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Brilliant. A stupid fucking handball now he misses reading and qpr. You twat Delph. Our ability to fuck ourselves is never ending
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Do any of our players have a brain?
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Mostly rubbish.
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Lots of effort fuck all end product
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It's almost comical how shite we are. Are we the footballing equivilant of Alan Partridge at the moment? Or maybe Frank Spencer.
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(Here)
We go again....
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We just pick ourselfs up and go again
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Well considering the result was expected, that shower has managed to still bewilder amaze and disappoint.
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Time to clear out the manager, his "coaching" staff, the CEO and all the substandard players and malingerers. Will it happen? Not a chance.