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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on February 28, 2013, 08:18:18 PM

Title: Pravda
Post by: Legion on February 28, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
Anyone else getting tired of the tedious sound-bites and interviews/articles that have been put up for the last few weeks?
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: paulcomben on February 28, 2013, 09:02:33 PM
Hell, yes. Really, the same interview with different players. Good spirit in the camp blah blah. We go again blah blah. It was just bad luck that we blew a lead in, erm, almost every single match...
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 28, 2013, 09:03:14 PM
It's official. What do you expect?
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Pete3206 on February 28, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
The excellent Jack Woodward always keeps me entertained. He's such a card.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: bilsim on February 28, 2013, 09:24:36 PM
The excellent Jack Woodward always keeps me entertained. He's such a card.

I can't wait to see how he handles our relegation.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 28, 2013, 09:26:02 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: FrankyH on February 28, 2013, 09:27:47 PM
Same old same old. Lee Hendrie used to tell us he was maturing as a player/person every other week on the official site.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Yossarian on February 28, 2013, 09:34:03 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

Yep. Me too. I find it very invasive.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: FrankyH on February 28, 2013, 09:39:40 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

The most common use of the mute button on my PC !
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Risso on February 28, 2013, 09:41:46 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

Agreed.  It really is symptomatic of how utterly rubbish the OS is.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: UK Redsox on February 28, 2013, 09:41:55 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

Yep. Jack's a nice bloke but it gets annoying when all I'm trying to do is check the away ticket sale dates and he starts blathering on
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 28, 2013, 10:05:10 PM
When most things have been bad, especially as utterly dire it has been for a few weeks now it's almost impossible to keep writing with a smile. You end up spinning anything, that even the blokes who write it are puking. When things are bad it makes it that much harder to listen to the same drivel. They are trying to stay positive which they have to do.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: adrenachrome on February 28, 2013, 10:10:57 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

Yep. Jack's a nice bloke but it gets annoying when all I'm trying to do is check the away ticket sale dates and he starts blathering on

Yet another good reason for installing the flash blocker plugin.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: eamonn on February 28, 2013, 10:32:51 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

Agreed.  It really is symptomatic of how utterly rubbish the OS is.

It's not just ours in fairness. A lot of news sites now have a little tv player in the top right corner that automatically plays when you visit the page. Usually prefaced by ads, naturally.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 28, 2013, 11:07:41 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

Agreed.  It really is symptomatic of how utterly rubbish the OS is.

Agreed on that, it is exceptionally bad form to have video with an audio track start to play automatically. See also the Birmingham Mail site, which does the same.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 28, 2013, 11:11:54 PM
Those moaning about the stuff on the OS, you're right, it is pointless, empty, repetitive bollocks, but look at it from the web editor's point of view. He's got to find content to stick on there every day of the week.

It isn't easy to do. What do people really expect to hear on the official site?

Joe Bennett mounting an impassioned critique of the Lerner fiscal regime? Matthew Lowton discussing the Heath government? Fabian Delph on Kosovo? Barry Bannan discussing Scottish independence?

Of course not.

I don't bother with the OS, because it is just that, official. If you're going to use it with any regularity, then surely you've got to expect a certain, narrow range of content?
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 28, 2013, 11:19:12 PM
Those moaning about the stuff on the OS, you're right, it is pointless, empty, repetitive bollocks, but look at it from the web editor's point of view. He's got to find content to stick on there every day of the week.

It isn't easy to do. What do people really expect to hear on the official site?

Joe Bennett mounting an impassioned critique of the Lerner fiscal regime? Matthew Lowton discussing the Heath government? Fabian Delph on Kosovo? Barry Bannan discussing Scottish independence?

Of course not.

I don't bother with the OS, because it is just that, official. If you're going to use it with any regularity, then surely you've got to expect a certain, narrow range of content?

This is the downside of 24 hour rolling news. If you're the Villa correspondent of a local paper you've got to find five stories this week, despite nothing happening - that's hard enough. If you're running the club's website you've got to find probably five stories a day, and they all have to be positive.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Risso on February 28, 2013, 11:20:10 PM
It annoys me that they start playing automatically.

Agreed.  It really is symptomatic of how utterly rubbish the OS is.

Agreed on that, it is exceptionally bad form to have video with an audio track start to play automatically. See also the Birmingham Mail site, which does the same.

It's like some shit website from 2001 trying to flog mobile ring tones before they got to be even as good as polyphonic.  Anything with sound coming on which you didn't expect is just really bad form.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Risso on February 28, 2013, 11:23:31 PM
Those moaning about the stuff on the OS, you're right, it is pointless, empty, repetitive bollocks, but look at it from the web editor's point of view. He's got to find content to stick on there every day of the week.

It isn't easy to do. What do people really expect to hear on the official site?

Joe Bennett mounting an impassioned critique of the Lerner fiscal regime? Matthew Lowton discussing the Heath government? Fabian Delph on Kosovo? Barry Bannan discussing Scottish independence?

Of course not.

I don't bother with the OS, because it is just that, official. If you're going to use it with any regularity, then surely you've got to expect a certain, narrow range of content?

This is the downside of 24 hour rolling news. If you're the Villa correspondent of a local paper you've got to find five stories this week, despite nothing happening - that's hard enough. If you're running the club's website you've got to find probably five stories a day, and they all have to be positive.

I wouldn't have that poor sod's job for a gold pig.  Imagine having a year trying to spin McLeish's performances into something positive, only to then be followed with Mr "We Go Again".  Must be like trying to make Ed Milliband sound charismatic or George Osborne vaguely intelligent.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 28, 2013, 11:28:44 PM

I wouldn't have that poor sod's job for a gold pig.  Imagine having a year trying to spin McLeish's performances into something positive, only to then be followed with Mr "We Go Again".  Must be like trying to make Ed Milliband sound charismatic or George Osborne vaguely intelligent.

That's exactly it, though.

He's sat there, tasked with churning out content, and not sounding like a miseryarse.

He's probably one of three people at the club who are forced to pretend everything is great, all the time. Him, Faulkner, and Lambert.

Actually, the marketing bloke also will have to. Imagine his face when he has to start pushing the button on all that "Lambert's Lions" bullshit. No wonder he slips into humiliating nonsense like referring to Spurs as "giants" or talking about the "Theatre of Dreams" and all that bollocks.

I reckon he knows it'll piss people off and is just doing it to make his day more bearable.

I genuinely mean this, but if that was my job, I'd amuse myself by slipping shit like that into the OS, and then sitting back with a cup of tea, and watching this place to watch people go batshit about it.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 28, 2013, 11:55:03 PM
Overall I don't mind the OS, it does what it's meant to. Just those bloody videos bug me.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: old man villa fan on February 28, 2013, 11:59:33 PM
Gone are the days as a youngster buying the Sports Argus on Saturday night to read the Villa player columnist as this was about the only thing from the players in those days.  Only later as you got older discovering that most, if not all, was ghosted.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2013, 12:06:47 AM

I wouldn't have that poor sod's job for a gold pig.  Imagine having a year trying to spin McLeish's performances into something positive, only to then be followed with Mr "We Go Again".  Must be like trying to make Ed Milliband sound charismatic or George Osborne vaguely intelligent.

That's exactly it, though.

He's sat there, tasked with churning out content, and not sounding like a miseryarse.

He's probably one of three people at the club who are forced to pretend everything is great, all the time. Him, Faulkner, and Lambert.

Actually, the marketing bloke also will have to. Imagine his face when he has to start pushing the button on all that "Lambert's Lions" bullshit. No wonder he slips into humiliating nonsense like referring to Spurs as "giants" or talking about the "Theatre of Dreams" and all that bollocks.

I reckon he knows it'll piss people off and is just doing it to make his day more bearable.

I genuinely mean this, but if that was my job, I'd amuse myself by slipping shit like that into the OS, and then sitting back with a cup of tea, and watching this place to watch people go batshit about it.

Imagine the day he plans on handing his resignation in though, you might see some proper headlines then:

"Well, that was fucking shite - Villa thumped again"

"Stephen Ireland - roar the lads to safety, because I can't be arsed!"
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Pete3206 on March 01, 2013, 12:30:25 AM
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Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: mattjpa on March 01, 2013, 06:32:39 AM
The worst part about it is this bs is now standard fare in the sport. Anyone who speaks the truth (di canio, benitez, Barton etc) get fined, banned, cause uproar in the media. When was the last time you heard a post match interview with any truth, honesty or lack of cliches? For me it was Benitez the other day criticising the owners fans and leadership. He spoke in total honesty and Fleet Street have been wanking themselves into a stupor for two days since calling for his head. Meaningless interviews are now  a systematic part of the game.

Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: ktvillan on March 01, 2013, 09:25:40 AM
It's quite simple, don't read it.  I only rarely visit the OS for ticket or fixture matters, and tend to totally ignore the laughably hollow propaganda.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Damo70 on March 01, 2013, 09:42:37 AM
Gone are the days as a youngster buying the Sports Argus on Saturday night to read the Villa player columnist as this was about the only thing from the players in those days.  Only later as you got older discovering that most, if not all, was ghosted.

That got me thinking about Argus columnists over the years. The only ones I could think of were Steve Hunt, who they got shot of for going back on his word about giving them an exclusive on his move from Coventry to Albion, Ricki Herbert having the unenviable task of putting a weekly positive spin on Wolves fortunes in the mid eighties and Ron Saunders SOS- save our society campaign. As for the OS, I think the only times I have been on there this season has been as a season ticket holder checking out ticket details for the home cup games.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: PaulTheVillan on March 01, 2013, 09:43:40 AM
I don't go on 'Pravda' any more.

Why do we call it that anyway?
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Nev on March 01, 2013, 09:47:32 AM
It reminds me of Match Of The Day 2, in that it seems to be aimed at five year olds.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Damo70 on March 01, 2013, 09:56:58 AM
I don't go on 'Pravda' any more.

Why do we call it that anyway?

Because it is incredibly stylish like those Pravda shoes and handbags much coveted by the female sex.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: adrenachrome on March 01, 2013, 04:47:39 PM
I don't go on 'Pravda' any more.

Why do we call it that anyway?

It is the official organ of The Factory of Sadness (Carbon Neutral)
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Billy Walker on March 01, 2013, 05:18:22 PM

I wouldn't have that poor sod's job for a gold pig.  Imagine having a year trying to spin McLeish's performances into something positive, only to then be followed with Mr "We Go Again".  Must be like trying to make Ed Milliband sound charismatic or George Osborne vaguely intelligent.

That's exactly it, though.

He's sat there, tasked with churning out content, and not sounding like a miseryarse.

He's probably one of three people at the club who are forced to pretend everything is great, all the time. Him, Faulkner, and Lambert.

Actually, the marketing bloke also will have to. Imagine his face when he has to start pushing the button on all that "Lambert's Lions" bullshit. No wonder he slips into humiliating nonsense like referring to Spurs as "giants" or talking about the "Theatre of Dreams" and all that bollocks.

I reckon he knows it'll piss people off and is just doing it to make his day more bearable.

I genuinely mean this, but if that was my job, I'd amuse myself by slipping shit like that into the OS, and then sitting back with a cup of tea, and watching this place to watch people go batshit about it.

My gripe with that is that it can't do the morale of the players any good to have our own in-house media department bigging up the opposition left, right and centre.  Houllier noticed it when he was here and I read on one of the Villa media staff's blogs how Houllier told off the media guy for making Spurs sound like "monsters".

If I was the manager of Villa I would get the media guys in for a quiet chat and tell them in no uncertain terms that getting into our players' faces and bigging up the opposition is a huge no-no. 
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Ads on March 01, 2013, 05:38:13 PM
I never use the main site.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Pete3206 on March 01, 2013, 07:19:32 PM
To be fair to the OS, I like how it's extremely easy to book tickets and see my account history.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Damo70 on March 03, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
I would be surprised if any of the players go on the OS and even more surprised if going on it and seeing the oppostion being built up into Brazil 1970 affected them mentally.
Title: Re: Pravda
Post by: Risso on March 03, 2013, 12:53:10 PM

I wouldn't have that poor sod's job for a gold pig.  Imagine having a year trying to spin McLeish's performances into something positive, only to then be followed with Mr "We Go Again".  Must be like trying to make Ed Milliband sound charismatic or George Osborne vaguely intelligent.

That's exactly it, though.

He's sat there, tasked with churning out content, and not sounding like a miseryarse.

He's probably one of three people at the club who are forced to pretend everything is great, all the time. Him, Faulkner, and Lambert.

Actually, the marketing bloke also will have to. Imagine his face when he has to start pushing the button on all that "Lambert's Lions" bullshit. No wonder he slips into humiliating nonsense like referring to Spurs as "giants" or talking about the "Theatre of Dreams" and all that bollocks.

I reckon he knows it'll piss people off and is just doing it to make his day more bearable.

I genuinely mean this, but if that was my job, I'd amuse myself by slipping shit like that into the OS, and then sitting back with a cup of tea, and watching this place to watch people go batshit about it.

My gripe with that is that it can't do the morale of the players any good to have our own in-house media department bigging up the opposition left, right and centre.  Houllier noticed it when he was here and I read on one of the Villa media staff's blogs how Houllier told off the media guy for making Spurs sound like "monsters".

If I was the manager of Villa I would get the media guys in for a quiet chat and tell them in no uncertain terms that getting into our players' faces and bigging up the opposition is a huge no-no. 

Houllier was a fine one to talk, the Anfield sign tapping twat.
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