Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: eastie on February 01, 2013, 01:20:03 PM
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Former Aston Villa boss Graham Taylor has spoken out about Aston Villa's relegation plight and the frustrations over the club's future.
In an exclusive interview given to the Extra Time podcast he said fans were well within their rights to question Lerner's commitment to the club after the American's promise of Champions League football amounted to nothing.
And Taylor adds that the Villa top man should give interviews to the press so that supporters can find out more about his intentions.
Taylor said: "The problem that the fans have is not necessarily with the manager or the players.
"When he (Lerner) first came it was 'We are going to get into the Champions League but it may take us four or five years to become a Champions League side' and that was accepted by the fans.
"Once that didn't happen and the break-up of the relationship with Martin O'Neill, and the position they are in now and Randy Lerner not turning up and not doing press interviews...I think Randy Lerner has to come out and do a few more press interviews.
"Having said that I am pretty certain he is not going to do that.
"It leaves supporters here questioning who is in charge of our club?
"Is he really interested in our club?"
And Taylor added that in his experience it is important for the manager to try and keep the press onside when things get tough.
He added: "If you lose contact with your local paper then that is bad news.
"I think managing Aston Villa from managing Norwich is totally different for Paul Lambert."
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"I think managing Aston Villa from managing Norwich is totally different for Paul Lambert."
SUBTEXT: HE'S MORE OUT OF HIS DEPTH THAN A MIDGET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC
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SGT always speaks clearly, intelligently, with authority and usually explains his reasoning. I wonder what he thinks of Paul Lambert's press conferences and post match interviews?
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SGT always speaks clearly, intelligently, with authority and usually explains his reasoning. I wonder what he thinks of Paul Lambert's press conferences and post match interviews?
He cant be bothered to press subtitles on his remote
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Note the phrase 'our club.' Not 'their club' or 'your club'. Our club.
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"Is he really interested in our club?"
And that one word sums up why we love you, Sir Graham!
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"I think managing Aston Villa from managing Norwich is totally different for Paul Lambert."
SUBTEXT: HE'S MORE OUT OF HIS DEPTH THAN A MIDGET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC
I think SGT is far too respectful to have a dig at the manager in place.
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Note the phrase 'our club.' Not 'their club' or 'your club'. Our club.
Yes, but in the sentence 'It leaves supporters here questioning who is in charge of our club' suggests he is looking at it as an outsider looking in at what supporters are thinking.
He does love us though.
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Note the phrase 'our club.' Not 'their club' or 'your club'. Our club.
Agreed Dave.
I love that.
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Graham Taylor was rudely snubbed by Lerner in the early days. For such a gentleman, this is as close as he can go without calling Lerner a twat.
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Surely this man is the most important and influential figure in the last 30 years at Villa Park.
These words should echo through the corridors of Villa Park like a tsunami.
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He has stuck it up them a bit there.
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Graham Taylor was rudely snubbed by Lerner in the early days. For such a gentleman, this is as close as he can go without calling Lerner a twat.
Well said - i am still saddened when i think how the great man was ridiculed by wolves fans and sad to say not much better by some of our own fans - a truly great man .
Back in 1991 my mother recieved a package on her birthday with a signed photo and a birthday card from the great man with a few lines written - for an england manager to do that was a great gesture.
No man in football that ive met have i ever respected more - although joe mercer came close .
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He's right to stick it up them, we are a diabolically run club.
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When I've seen/heard Sir Graham speaking, he's always made a lot of sense. Despite his poor reign as manager of the national team and not always being succesful in clubs, I'd liken him to the Sir Bobby Robson, both always came across very intelligent and true gentlemen.
We need someone like SGT at the helm of our club but sadly I don't think there are managers like that in football anymore.
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There's so many ways to stick it to Lerner - business, finance, and football, he's made a pig's ear of it all.
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He's right to stick it up them, we are a diabolically run club.
The worst of it is, if we offered a non-exec director role at the club a lot of the reasons for that would disappear.
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Note the phrase 'our club.' Not 'their club' or 'your club'. Our club.
Something that has been lacking over the past few years.
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ANY competent, note ANY competent board would surely have put to use the knowledge and experience of a Villa man like SGT. We wouldn't be the shambles we are now in that case. Given the fucking morons running Villa now it's no surprise he was overlooked
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Class act. I'd love him to come on board here in some capacity to give this club a little bit of insight and some guidance for a severely out of his depth PL. Won't happen of course, but it's a shame. We need some knowledge at the high end of this club and support for a younger manager if that's the way Randy intends to go.
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His love for Aston Villa is boundless and it must be killing him to see us where we are. Collymore said recently that the Villa family was out there to help the club and they all want to. Why they are so stubborn not to listen is beyond me.
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Class act. I'd love him to come on board here in some capacity to give this club a little bit of insight and some guidance for a severely out of his depth PL. Won't happen of course, but it's a shame. We need some knowledge at the high end of this club and support for a younger manager if that's the way Randy intends to go.
Hopefully theres only one way randy wants to go and thats as far away as possible by selling up to someome who cares.
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Class act. I'd love him to come on board here in some capacity to give this club a little bit of insight and some guidance for a severely out of his depth PL. Won't happen of course, but it's a shame. We need some knowledge at the high end of this club and support for a younger manager if that's the way Randy intends to go.
Hopefully theres only one way randy wants to go and thats as far away as possible by selling up to someome who cares.
I wonder if Tom Hanks is rich enough to buy and give enough money for rebuilding :D
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We need Steve Stride back and Sir Graham for Director of Football.
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We need Steve Stride back and Sir Graham for Director of Football.
Id take prince william as DOF and kate as manager ahead of this bunch.
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I always remember when he took over for his second spell in charge. We had finished around 7th/8th and in an interview he talked bout taken us up a good few places in the league and winning one of the cups. Only ever wanted the best for Aston Villa.
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"I think managing Aston Villa from managing Norwich is totally different for Paul Lambert."
Reminds me of something I read in John Gregory's autobiography. He said that when he got the Villa job, his first phone call was from his former manager Arthur Cox (like GT a proper football man) who said, "That's not a cornershop that they've given you, it's a bloody megastore. Are you sure you can run a megastore? Are you ready for this?".
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Graham Taylor was rudely snubbed by Lerner in the early days. For such a gentleman, this is as close as he can go without calling Lerner a twat.
I'll say it....Fucking TWAT Lerner!
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Can we have him back please? In any capacity, just talking about our club, being a figure head, putting his trusted hand on the rudder!
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Can we have him back please? In any capacity, just talking about our club, being a figure head, putting his trusted hand on the rudder!
Selling programmes?
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Can we have him back please? In any capacity, just talking about our club, being a figure head, putting his trusted hand on the rudder!
Selling programmes?
Heroes and Villains, new issue out today....
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I'd have him back and BFR. Quite a few old faces there tues all looking very concerned.
BFR is villa through and through.
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I imagine if Dave was to ever give a lifetime's free subscription of H&V to anyone it would be Mr Taylor.
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GT put us back on track the last time we were relegated ,maybe he will again next season
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GT put us back on track the last time we were relegated ,maybe he will again next season
He did. His second stint wasn't so good. He's too old to manage now but a DoF type role or even CEO would be great. Move that idiot Faulkner out.
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Dave giving away a lifetime of free copies? Behave yourself.
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It does seem a bit daft now I think about it.
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"I think managing Aston Villa from managing Norwich is totally different for Paul Lambert."
SUBTEXT: HE'S MORE OUT OF HIS DEPTH THAN A MIDGET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC
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I agree managing Villa is different from managing provincial clubs like Norwich however out of his depth NO.
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GT put us back on track the last time we were relegated ,maybe he will again next season
He did. His second stint wasn't so good. He's too old to manage now but a DoF type role or even CEO would be great. Move that idiot Faulkner out.
I can't believe Failkner is still in charge.
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Ever since Faulkner became CEO this club has imploded
Is that a coincidence ??
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No it's not. He needs to leave and run a corner shop. By the way no disrespect to corner shop owners.
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No it's not. He needs to leave and run a corner shop. By the way no disrespect to corner shop owners.
What is your idea of Paul Faulkner's job description and delegated authorities? Just a question.
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I am not sure if he has the authority or wherewithal to do this job. Running Umbro is much more straight forward than managing Aston Villa. There is possibly a very clever almost daring, unbelievably so, plan to get rid of the burden of big wage boys by getting relegated but if he is pursuing that than he is on another planet. I think he has failed completely as CEO of oh Club.
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No it's not. He needs to leave and run a corner shop. By the way no disrespect to corner shop owners.
What is your idea of Paul Faulkner's job description and delegated authorities? Just a question.
Well he is the CEO of Aston Villa if I am not mistaken - therefore in charge of all business related matters and the 'product' if you like is ultimately what happens on the pitch, everything else is an offshoot.
So how is he doing compared to his peers at Tottenham, Everton, Liverpool (I'll exclude the CL moneybags clubs as that is not fair)?
I'd say he is doing fucking shit to be brutally honest. We have been sinking since he was appointed CEO.
O'Neill walkout, Houllier, McLeish. The latter 2 should never have been appointed under the circumstances, any circumstances in fact. The record isn't good. And now it transpires the lastest punt on Lambert has gone awry and he is way out of his depth too.
Move on Faulkner you have done enough damage.
I suppose he has a Oxbridge degree so no doubt will land another good job despite abject failure at the Villa.
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Former Aston Villa boss Graham Taylor has spoken out about Aston Villa's relegation plight and the frustrations over the club's future.
In an exclusive interview given to the Extra Time podcast he said fans were well within their rights to question Lerner's commitment to the club after the American's promise of Champions League football amounted to nothing.
And Taylor adds that the Villa top man should give interviews to the press so that supporters can find out more about his intentions.
Taylor said: "The problem that the fans have is not necessarily with the manager or the players.
"When he (Lerner) first came it was 'We are going to get into the Champions League but it may take us four or five years to become a Champions League side' and that was accepted by the fans.
"Once that didn't happen and the break-up of the relationship with Martin O'Neill, and the position they are in now and Randy Lerner not turning up and not doing press interviews...I think Randy Lerner has to come out and do a few more press interviews.
"Having said that I am pretty certain he is not going to do that.
"It leaves supporters here questioning who is in charge of our club?
"Is he really interested in our club?"
And Taylor added that in his experience it is important for the manager to try and keep the press onside when things get tough.
He added: "If you lose contact with your local paper then that is bad news.
"I think managing Aston Villa from managing Norwich is totally different for Paul Lambert."
Lot of valid points here i reckon.
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I think GT should be our director of football as he doesn't go mad with money and it will help us to keep recruiting right players for the club. He could be Paul Lambert's mentioner and a go between with the club and team. I think Paul Lambert need someone to sound out. GT could advise him his coaching staff is not good enough or make some suggestion to improve.
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I think GT should be our director of football as he doesn't go mad with money and it will help us to keep recruiting right players for the club. He could be Paul Lambert's mentioner and a go between with the club and team. I think Paul Lambert need someone to sound out. GT could advise him his coaching staff is not good enough or make some suggestion to improve.
Paul Lambert's mentioner?
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I think GT should be our director of football as he doesn't go mad with money and it will help us to keep recruiting right players for the club. He could be Paul Lambert's mentioner and a go between with the club and team. I think Paul Lambert need someone to sound out. GT could advise him his coaching staff is not good enough or make some suggestion to improve.
Not sure about him in a DoF role, but he was a non-executive Director at Watford a couple of years back and I think he would be more suited to that kind of position.