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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: villa kicks on January 26, 2013, 12:16:09 PM
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The Teams from 20th to 13th are Battling for Premier League survival.
3 teams from QPR, Wigan ,Reading ASTON VILLA, Newcastle, Southampton, Fulham and Norwich will be relegated.
I see the matches between these teams and the matches between any top 7 team as crucial to gaining/losing points to premier league survival. For Villa to beat and not lose to teams around us and know games against top teams are bonus points.
17th place ASTON VILLA have 6 games against top 7 teams.
homes are man city liverpool chelsea
aways everton man u arsenal
6/15 against rivals
Aston Villa v Newcastle
Reading v Aston Villa
Aston Villa v QPR
Aston Villa v Fulham
Norwich v Aston Villa
Wigan v Aston Villa
Last match of season wigan away
20th QPR
5/15 games against top 7
3 home ties include man city and man u arsenal
2 away everton liverpool
6/15 against rivals
Southampton v QPR
Aston Villa v QPR
Fulham v QPR
QPR v Wigan
Reading v QPR
QPR v Newcastle
last match of season liverpool
19th Wigan
They have 5/15 games against top 7
2 home spurs and liverpool
3 away chelsea man city and arsenal
6/15 against rivals
Wigan v Southampton
Reading v Wigan
Wigan v Newcastle
Wigan v Norwich
QPR v Wigan
Wigan v Aston Villa
18th Reading
5/15 games against top 7
3 home chelsea liverpool man city
2 away everton man u
5/15 against rivals
Reading v Wigan
Reading v Southampton
Norwich v Reading
Reading v QPR
Fulham v Reading
Readings last match of season is west ham away
16th Newcastle
5/15 games against top 7
2 aways man city away spurs
3 homes chelsea liverpool arsenal
5/15 against rivals
Aston Villa v Newcastle
Newcastle v Southampton
Wigan v Newcastle
Newcastle v Fulham
QPR v Newcastle
last match season arsenal home
15th Southampton
5/15 games against top 7
3 home matches are man city liverpool chelsea
2 aways man u and spurs
5/15 against rivals
Wigan v Southampton
Newcastle v Southampton
Southampton v QPR
Norwich v Southampton
Reading v Southampton
last game of season stoke @ home
14th Fulham
In final 15 matches 6 matches are against top 7
homes manu arsenal liverpool chelsea
away spurs everton
5/15 matches against Relegation rivals
Norwich v Fulham
Fulham v QPR
Newcastle v Fulham
Aston Villa v Fulham
Fulham v Reading
last match of season swansea away
13th Norwich
5/15 versus top 7
home spurs everton
away man u arsenal man city
6/15 against rivals
QPR v Norwich
Norwich v Fulham
Norwich v Southampton
Wigan v Norwich
Norwich v Reading
Norwich v Aston Villa
last match of season man city away
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I see 3 points put of 18 against the top 7 and 8 out of 18 from the 6 games with rivals .
Overall 11 points from 12 games and goodbye premier league.
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I see 7 points out of 18 against top 7 and 11 out of 18 against rivals and 4 out of remaining 4 games so that makes 22 and no relegation.
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I see 7 points out of 18 against top 7 and 11 out of 18 against rivals and 4 out of remaining 4 games so that makes 22 and no relegation.
That's 16 games, we only have 15 left.
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I dont think the last games are that interesting, we will be down before Wigan. My guess is Norwich will put us down mathematically.
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Hard to see where the next win is coming from.
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Has anyone put money on us going down? I'm fighting against doing it but it looks to be bloody easy money at evens
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Has anyone put money on us going down? I'm fighting against doing it but it looks to be bloody easy money at evens
I couldnt bring myself to do it. I think we are down but I cant bet against my own team.
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Just had a mooch on Oddschecker. Best price you can get on us going down is 11/10. Lambert is odds on not to be in charge by the last game of the season. Lee Clark is odds on favourite for the Blackpool job. Ashley Young is 6/1 to sign for Arsenal in this transfer window, 14/1 to sign for QPR and 20/1 to return to us. Most importantly though you can get 5/4 on blue, 6/4 on yellow, 11/4 on red and 10/1 on silver/grey if you want to bet on what colour tie Jim White will wear on SSN on deadline night.
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Just had a mooch on Oddschecker. Best price you can get on us going down is 11/10. Lambert is odds on not to be in charge by the last game of the season. Lee Clark is odds on favourite for the Blackpool job. Ashley Young is 6/1 to sign for Arsenal in this transfer window, 14/1 to sign for QPR and 20/1 to return to us. Most importantly though you can get 5/4 on blue, 6/4 on yellow, 11/4 on red and 10/1 on silver/grey if you want to bet on what colour tie Jim White will wear on SSN on deadline night.
Got to be white hasn't it?
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I see 7 points out of 18 against top 7 and 11 out of 18 against rivals and 4 out of remaining 4 games so that makes 22 and no relegation.
That's 16 games, we only have 15 left.
Oh fuck...my plan to safety is up the spout.
OK I give in and agree with most of you that we should give up now and sack everybody associated with the club. Get some messiah in say Andy Gray or Stan Collymore to attempt to save us as they are very good at talking about it all!
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We still have Newcastle, Sunderland, QPR, West Ham, Fulham at home. Not to mention Reading, Norwich and Wigan away. We can have no complaints if we go down failing to get enough points from that. After the Wigan and Soton games, I don't think we will. Probably 10 more points maximum = 30 points total = Championship.
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Reading are the team showing the form though they have some tough games against top teams. However i can see them getting a point at least against chelsea. Qpr and norwich are showing how poor they are after their cup defeats and wonder what affect that will have on their next immediate games.
I wouldn't discount west ham becoming involved.
Southampton and new manager have it all to do- check out forest change and how that is nt working out so far !
Wigan dont start playing till the clocks go forward- quote lawro.
That made me giggle!
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Reading are the team showing the form though they have some tough games against top teams. However i can see them getting a point at least against chelsea. Qpr and norwich are showing how poor they are after their cup defeats and wonder what affect that will have on their next immediate games.
I wouldn't discount west ham becoming involved.
Southampton and new manager have it all to do- check out forest change and how that is nt working out so far !
Wigan dont start playing till the clocks go forward- quote lawro.
That made me giggle!
Wouldn't read too much into qprs cup result- they put basically a reserve team out and i think harry will be happy to concentrate on the league.
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Reading are the team showing the form though they have some tough games against top teams. However i can see them getting a point at least against chelsea. Qpr and norwich are showing how poor they are after their cup defeats and wonder what affect that will have on their next immediate games.
I wouldn't discount west ham becoming involved.
Southampton and new manager have it all to do- check out forest change and how that is nt working out so far !
Wigan dont start playing till the clocks go forward- quote lawro.
That made me giggle!
Wouldn't read too much into qprs cup result- they put basically a reserve team out and i think harry will be happy to concentrate on the league.
To be fair though, shipping 4 at home to a league 1 side isn't going to inspire good feeling amongst anyone connected with that club regardless of who they put out.
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Wigan dont start playing till the clocks go forward- quote lawro.
Thank god they don't go forward until March 31st then this year!!
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I still think 35 points and that will be enough to keep us up although risking it with the goal difference.
Basically I think we need 4 points from Newcastle-Westham, 5 points from QPR-Reading-Liverpool games, 4 points from Fulham-Sunderland home games in April and then two draws from somewhere else, maybe Norwich and then Wigan on the last day.
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Wigan dont start playing till the clocks go forward- quote lawro.
Thank god they don't go forward until March 31st then this year!!
Ah yes, the comedy genius that is Mark Lawrenson.
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I still think 35 points and that will be enough to keep us up although risking it with the goal difference.
Basically I think we need 4 points from Newcastle-Westham, 5 points from QPR-Reading-Liverpool games, 4 points from Fulham-Sunderland home games in April and then two draws from somewhere else, maybe Norwich and then Wigan on the last day.
I think we need 38 at least .
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Wouldn't read too much into qprs cup result- they put basically a reserve team out and i think harry will be happy to concentrate on the league.
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To be fair though, shipping 4 at home to a league 1 side isn't going to inspire good feeling amongst anyone connected with that club regardless of who they put out.
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I live near QPR and bumped into loads of fans streaming out of the game yesterday after an hour. They reckon that not only are they doomed they will also finish bottom.
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I still think 35 points and that will be enough to keep us up although risking it with the goal difference.
Basically I think we need 4 points from Newcastle-Westham, 5 points from QPR-Reading-Liverpool games, 4 points from Fulham-Sunderland home games in April and then two draws from somewhere else, maybe Norwich and then Wigan on the last day.
I think we need 38 at least .
I'd take a bet with anyone that no one will be relegated on 38 points.
Last season Bolton went down on 36.
Think it might be a year where the 3rd relegated clubs all finish on 33 or 34 points say...
17th Us 35 points
18th Wigan 34 points
19th Reading 34 points
20th QPR 33 points
Nightmare final day in store anyway.
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I wouldn't read anything into the points total.
That's why I don't understand why people get hung up about needing 6 wins or whatever.
We need to, at the very least, match what the three teams below us do. With the fixtures we have, our fate ought to be very much in our own hands.
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I wouldn't read anything into the points total.
That's why I don't understand why people get hung up about needing 6 wins or whatever.
We need to, at the very least, match what the three teams below us do. With the fixtures we have, our fate ought to be very much in our own hands.
Maybe. But we have to win tonight if we are to halt the slide. It will ease the pressure and send the vultures off to circle the magpies for a week or two.
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There will be shock results along the way - as in qpr winning at chelsea, it will be nip and tuck all the way from here, a win tonight is vital.
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I think it's crucial to get 7 out of 9 in the home games against Newcastle, QPR & Fulham. Lose one of them and we're well and truly f*cked. Thank God we're not playing any of them tonight...............
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I wouldn't read anything into the points total.
That's why I don't understand why people get hung up about needing 6 wins or whatever.
We need to, at the very least, match what the three teams below us do. With the fixtures we have, our fate ought to be very much in our own hands.
Maybe. But we have to win tonight if we are to halt the slide. It will ease the pressure and send the vultures off to circle the magpies for a week or two.
Agreed.
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I think it's crucial to get 7 out of 9 in the home games against Newcastle, QPR & Fulham. Lose one of them and we're well and truly f*cked. Thank God we're not playing any of them tonight...............
Hmm I felt the same.
And tonight annoying. Not even a point after our second half fight back!
And then finding out Wigan and QPR draw!
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Well i see the results went well for us today but have just heard that southampton won ! ?