Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: Legion on January 16, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
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I don't want to see you, Mr Warner. There are two teams out there. One is trying to play cricket and the other is not. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-21013615)
I find this absolutely fascinating. Anyone know where I can obtain the 5-part BBC series shown many years ago?
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Some of the episodes are on U Tube.
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Douglas Jardine is not given the recognition he deserves. He was a great captain and a winner.
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Douglas Jardine is not given the recognition he deserves. He was a great captain and a winner.
True Andy, but the way that Harold Larwood was hung out to dry after that series was one of the most shameful episodes in English sport.
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Ive been trying for years. u can get them on ebay but it is australian dvd and u need a multi region player i think.
but i have just watched all 6 episodes on u tube. superb
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I have next to no interest in cricket but read the Harold Larwood biography.I can't recommend it highly enough.
The Aussies hated him and with reason, he was English and bloody brilliant.
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Remember from my childhood! excellent series...surely the beeb will repeat with back 2 back ashes coming up? just remember the keeper with steaks in his glove :)
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Anything that annoys the convicts should be positively encouraged and rewarded.
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On the subject of Jardine, it appeared he was quite happy to face bodyline bowling. Read the Wisden report of the Manchester test the summer following the bodyline series.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/151776.html
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Watching Bodyline as a kid got me into Cricket, I loved it, I used to pretend to be Harold Larwood. Funnily enough He emigrated to Australia in 1950.
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I feel sorry for Larwood, he just came 60-70 years too soon, nowadays he'd be revered as one of the top bowlers in the world, watching this does make you realise why they have all the protective gear now though, imagine facing the west indies from the 80s in the kit they were wearing back in the bodyline tour.
It's also interesting to see the changes that this caused to the way batsmen prepare as well, at the time it was pretty uncommon to be strong on the leg side, now it's almost a requirement at international level. In that regard this is probably as big a moment in the development of the sport as anything that has ever happened.
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Ah Bodyline, sports longest running whinge.
And they have the front to accuse us of being moaners.
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Very good series on the beeb was that only able to get patches of it on Youtube.
Larwood was treated disgracefully and took over 60 years to get his MBE.
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I watched it on TV years ago, must have been midish 80's. Even though i'm not much of a cricket fan I did enjoy it. Can only remember bits of it though, someone (Larwood?) bowling at bins as a kid.
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Just found the book, 'Harold Larwood' by Duncan Hamilton.
It won the William Hill 2009 Sports Book of the Year and rightly so.
Not only a great cricket book but a brilliant insight into the social history in the UK.
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Aussies complaining :D. Aren't they the country that bowled underarm against New Zealand because they didn't want to lose a one day international?
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Between metal bats, underarm bowling, and sledging I'm sure its safe to say that the Aussie's are the guardians of the etiquette of the game.
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IT was a great series, Elrond from LOTR was Jardine I think
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Wasn't that the Matrix?
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Just found the book, 'Harold Larwood' by Duncan Hamilton.
It won the William Hill 2009 Sports Book of the Year and rightly so.
Not only a great cricket book but a brilliant insight into the social history in the UK.
His book on Brian Clough called "Provided You Don't Kiss Me" is also very good. Doesn't shy away from recounting the darker sides of Clough like others do.
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Is this what you're after Legion?
For some reason episode 6 is split into two...
and finally...
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Yes! Thank you very much indeed.
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I would also recommend, Bodyline, The Autopsy by David Frith..the definitive Bodyline book and my favourite sports book, a comprehensive discription of the tour in full and what happened to the players afterwards, fascinating read.
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I'll look into that. Thank you.
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Douglas Jardine is not given the recognition he deserves. He was a great captain and a winner.
True Andy, but the way that Harold Larwood was hung out to dry after that series was one of the most shameful episodes in English sport.
Totally agree, I think a reason for that was Larwoods background, cricket back then was largely elitest, and many of the players on that tour came from priviledged backgrounds whilst Larwood was very much from a miners background. A true English hero who should never be forgotten.
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Exiled - i will bow to your judgement on the Frith book - just bought it - need some reading matter for my forthcoming holiday ....when unfortunately i will miss game at Goodison.
Bodyline has always been something i felt i should get to know more in depth detail about. I hope this book does the trick!!! Cheers
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Hope you enjoy it PGW, its a book I dont tire of re-reading, enjoy your hols!
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Oooh looking forward to watching those when I get chance
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Another book worth reading is " Gubby Allen Man of cricket " . This book gives you the Toffee- nosed English version as Allen was the only English fast bowler who refused to bowl body-line. Allen gives a daily diary of events during all 5 tests. A good read which shows the class system at its worst.
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It was a good series, however as it was produced by the colonials, the only thing Jardine & Larwood were missing were horns and masks.
What it does reflect is the class system and the old 'Gentlemen & Players' regime.
Players got paid to play, Gentleman did it free, as a hobby - although their expense claims would make an MP wince. The Gentleman commanded respect and opinions of the players were overelooked as second class citizens.
The annoying thing about the mini-series is that it shows all Australians as good old bloke with a sense of fair play. Even the old soak of a sports hack Chook!
Much is played of Jardines middle class upbringing and the stiff upper lip English, a trait the vocal and passionate salt of the earth Aussies would never have.
No doubt if the roles had been reversed we would be whining still, 80 years on.
The biggest whinge is that the colonials never thought of the thery first. Shame they never kept that when bowling underarm or sledging opposition players!
Roll on the Ashes