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Title: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 13, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
Are there any positives at the moment?
I was liking the look of Benteke a few weeks ago, now he can't score to save his life. Maybe Westwood, Lowton and Guzan have been good. Other than that I'm struggling. £20mil+ spent. Not very wisely. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Also think it was a decent crowd yesterday, considering the state of the club.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: PeterWithe on January 13, 2013, 09:26:41 AM
Delph might  yet prove an asset, he was our best player for the third game in a row.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: nick harper on January 13, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
Confidence is such a massive part of football, even more so for younger players and I think the Chelsea and Spurs games really took a lot out of them. I believe there is some real talent amongst them but you can see them physically wilt when the crowd start moaning and the game is going against them. The defending for the penalty is a classic example of the nervousness and panic that is just below the surface.

I still have hope that if we can get Vlaar and Dunne back and we buy one strong holding midfield player, we still have a fighting chance. Lambert needs his leaders on the pitch and we haven't had any for much of the season.

They need a season turning result and they need the lift of a minimum of a Petrov type leader to strenghen the spine of the side.

I also have absolutely no doubt that Lambert is a good manager.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: nick harper on January 13, 2013, 09:37:11 AM
Delph might  yet prove an asset, he was our best player for the third game in a row.

Agree 100 per cent. There is a player there no doubt - it's just a shame he is having to do the work of two players in there at the moment.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: OzVilla on January 13, 2013, 09:46:26 AM
The crowd.  Decent attendances and not getting on the players backs, moreover they sound like they are sticking with the lads. 

I can think of many other teams we're they'd be dogs abuse for what's been going on over the last few weeks (probably years).  Despite the media drivel i think the VP crowd rarely turns on it's own, maybe only until it's way too late (see TSM BOLTON April 24th 2012).

Of the signings the stand out is Benteke, he looks like a great prospect but still raw.

Sorry silly me, I meant he's a saleable asset (Randyspeak).



Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: onje_villa on January 13, 2013, 09:57:03 AM
Delph might  yet prove an asset, he was our best player for the third game in a row.

Yep, have to agree that yesterday he played well and he's come on a lot.

I'm amazed as for me he has looked like the worst player in our squad up until now.

I also thought Baker played well and Stevens was far more solid than Bennett.

Charlie tried hard and put some decent balls in. Bannan was decent when he came on.

I think Bowery looks like he has a lot to his game.

You see, individually there is a lot to be hopeful about, it's just that collectively they're a shambles at the moment.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Ads on January 13, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
Something can still be done.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: onje_villa on January 13, 2013, 09:58:46 AM
The crowd.  Decent attendances and not getting on the players backs, moreover they sound like they are sticking with the lads. 

I can think of many other teams we're they'd be dogs abuse for what's been going on over the last few weeks (probably years).  Despite the media drivel i think the VP crowd rarely turns on it's own, maybe only until it's way too late (see TSM BOLTON April 24th 2012).

Of the signings the stand out is Benteke, he looks like a great prospect but still raw.

Sorry silly me, I meant he's a saleable asset (Randyspeak).

It's funny Oz but I thought the crowd only really got going late in the second half when we were pumping balls into the box. Before that it's just so quiet with the usual, 50% of people just playing on their phones.

I find VP so devoid of any passion or fight these days though that could in large part be down to the appalling run we're on.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: spk on January 13, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
Well,for the past to seasons we have all thought we were doomed and managed to stay up,getting to wembley would give the lads,fans and PL a massive boost,we might get a couple of good players in the next 2 weeks and Ive got a funny feeling we will do WBA next week....
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 13, 2013, 10:22:44 AM
Decent crowd yesterday but who would have thought Southampton would bring so many?
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 13, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
We're not mathematically relegated yet, that is the positive. There is time in January to do something about it, but it must be done now.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: MarkM on January 13, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
Saving loads of time by not watching Match of the Day
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: aj2k77 on January 13, 2013, 10:24:55 AM
I just had a fry up.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 13, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Something can still be done.

Yes. We're not cut adrift and something can still be done to get us out of this awful mess.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Ads on January 13, 2013, 10:31:31 AM
Decent crowd yesterday but who would have thought Southampton would bring so many?

They brought more yesterday than they had brought in the previous 20 years combined.

Part time wankers.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: aj2k77 on January 13, 2013, 10:34:45 AM
Decent crowd yesterday but who would have thought Southampton would bring so many?

They brought more yesterday than they had brought in the previous 20 years combined.

Part time wankers.

When they built that new crap stadium they seemed to gain another 15,000 fans, they must have dug them up with the foundations or something.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: AV82EC on January 13, 2013, 10:35:56 AM
We are creating chances, not taking them but we are creating them.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: OzVilla on January 13, 2013, 10:41:11 AM
Decent crowd yesterday but who would have thought Southampton would bring so many?

They brought more yesterday than they had brought in the previous 20 years combined.

Part time wankers.

They fancied themselves for a win pure and simple so they all came up to see it. 

After all, we've given them their best results of the season.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Legion on January 13, 2013, 11:26:16 AM
There are still 18 days left to buy a few experienced, half-decent players to bolster our squad and provide some leadership on the pitch.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 13, 2013, 11:30:53 AM
There are still 18 days left to buy a few experienced, half-decent players to bolster our squad and provide some leadership on the pitch.

That's essentially the only hope now, but we can't afford to throw away games in the meantime. They should have been signed for yesterday.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Villadroid on January 13, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
The biggest positive is that cash-strapped fans will never get a better chance to give up their Villa habit, than right now.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: danlanza on January 13, 2013, 12:37:15 PM
Positives : Wolves do a good Balti pie in the away section, erm, thats about it :'(
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Legion on January 13, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 13, 2013, 04:03:03 PM
Delph might  yet prove an asset, he was our best player for the third game in a row.

he was great yesterday .    The only one mind.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Pete3206 on January 13, 2013, 04:12:09 PM
Decent crowd yesterday but who would have thought Southampton would bring so many?

They brought more yesterday than they had brought in the previous 20 years combined.

Part time wankers.

When they built that new crap stadium they seemed to gain another 15,000 fans, they must have dug them up with the foundations or something.

St Mary's holds 32,000 and The Dell had a capacity of 15,000, so it's not too difficult to see where the extra fans have come from. Plus, it's hardly a crap stadium.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 13, 2013, 04:15:12 PM
Saving loads of time by not watching Match of the Day

This.

I reckon I've watched it about a dozen times in the last three years.

I also hardly ever bother reading the sports sections of newspapers any more, too, and spend more time on the culture and, err, actual news sections.

Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: onje_villa on January 13, 2013, 04:17:08 PM


Admirable Legion but don't fancy our lot in a fight!
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: ventnor villain on January 13, 2013, 04:19:09 PM
None whatsoever.  We have just lost two home league games to near rivals without scoring, suffered a record defeat and conceded three goals from corners to a FOURTH DIVISION team. The only positive thing to say is that there are only 16 more league games and two cup matches to endure before this car-crash , miserable wreck of a season finishes.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: ez on January 13, 2013, 04:22:59 PM
Saving loads of time by not watching Match of the Day

This.

I reckon I've watched it about a dozen times in the last three years.

I also hardly ever bother reading the sports sections of newspapers any more, too, and spend more time on the culture and, err, actual news sections.


I still haven't watched anything from the Bradford game.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Archie on January 13, 2013, 04:24:39 PM
Are there any positives at the moment?

Yes. There are three.
We still have  a beautiful stadium.
We don't have AML as  manager.
And we war a shirt with a nice shade of claret.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: TonyD on January 13, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
The only positive is that despite the last 4 weeks,I feel less pissed off than I did last season.  Strangely I think last season was more frustrating. 
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: olaftab on January 13, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
There are 16 games still to play. What an opportunity to get some points and climb up the table.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: villan1975 on January 13, 2013, 11:43:24 PM
There are 16 games still to play. What an opportunity to get some points and climb up the table.

It's always nice when the drugs really start to kick in. If only we could control what we say.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Ghost of Pongo Waring on January 14, 2013, 12:06:20 AM
1) We are starting to get experienced defenders back which will steady the back line and if we keep creating chances as we did on Saturday the goals, and points, will come.

2) We still have enough time and opportunity to climb out of trouble in the League and we're still in both cup competitions.

3) Despite all the knocks and body blows we've suffered this season there's still a chance to have a successful season.

4) However bad things get, however badly we play, we're still the one and only Aston Villa and the rest can F'off.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: eamonn on January 14, 2013, 04:36:58 AM
None whatsoever.  We have just lost two home league games to near rivals without scoring, suffered a record defeat and conceded three goals from corners to a FOURTH DIVISION team. The only positive thing to say is that there are only 16 more league games and two cup matches to endure before this car-crash , miserable wreck of a season finishes.

...and a happy new year.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2013, 05:16:38 AM
It still wouldn't take that much to make a big difference.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 14, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
1) We are starting to get experienced defenders back which will steady the back line and if we keep creating chances as we did on Saturday the goals, and points, will come.

2) We still have enough time and opportunity to climb out of trouble in the League and we're still in both cup competitions.

3) Despite all the knocks and body blows we've suffered this season there's still a chance to have a successful season.

4) However bad things get, however badly we play, we're still the one and only Aston Villa and the rest can F'off.

Experienced defenders... Vlaar, not bad. Dunne? Shower of shite last season, why are we expecting him to suddenly be a rock this season?
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: VillaAlways on January 14, 2013, 08:19:54 AM
Dunne is an unprofessional little shit,who couldn't give a damn about us.Just look at the difference in effort,when he plays for us as opposed to his country.I think people are forgetting how many points he has cost us over the seasons
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Californian Villain on January 14, 2013, 08:34:17 AM
Dunne is an unprofessional little shit,who couldn't give a damn about us.Just look at the difference in effort,when he plays for us as opposed to his country.I think people are forgetting how many points he has cost us over the seasons
You forgot to mention he is also fat and overpaid.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Ghost of Pongo Waring on January 14, 2013, 09:27:04 AM
1) We are starting to get experienced defenders back which will steady the back line and if we keep creating chances as we did on Saturday the goals, and points, will come.

2) We still have enough time and opportunity to climb out of trouble in the League and we're still in both cup competitions.

3) Despite all the knocks and body blows we've suffered this season there's still a chance to have a successful season.

4) However bad things get, however badly we play, we're still the one and only Aston Villa and the rest can F'off.

Experienced defenders... Vlaar, not bad. Dunne? Shower of shite last season, why are we expecting him to suddenly be a rock this season?

Most of the players were shite last season and he is capable of playing well.

Anyway I said "Experienced", which is what we need. The young players have ability but they need experienced players to make sure they don't get pulled out of position, to keep them organised.

 If you want to view a international defender coming back into an inexperienced defence as a negative thats up to you. I see it as a positive.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Le Lapin on January 14, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Positives are, if we stay up our new inexperienced players have gained a lot of experience on the coal face this season through what has been the most shite period of being a Villa supporter that I can remember. Hopefully they can learn and improve and hit the ground running next season.

With the extra cash injection if we stay in the league we might be able to get in a few experienced players to be a calming influence if things turn to crap in a match.

It can get worse though, but not a lot. Thankfully we have 16 games to try get it right and put some kind of run together to keep us safe.

This summer we need to get rid of the so called senior players that not stepped up to the mark given their opportunities to show that they can lead by example. Gabby and Ireland come to mind, we need the culture that Man U have. Even though their players are payed shit loads of money, they still have the hunger to bust a gut for the cause, with some of our guys I often wonder what their motivation is, once they get a big fat contract.

Hopefully Dunne and Vlaar get a chance to play together this season. The two of them will tighten up our defence and give our midlfield a bit more confidence.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 14, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
1) We are starting to get experienced defenders back which will steady the back line and if we keep creating chances as we did on Saturday the goals, and points, will come.

2) We still have enough time and opportunity to climb out of trouble in the League and we're still in both cup competitions.

3) Despite all the knocks and body blows we've suffered this season there's still a chance to have a successful season.

4) However bad things get, however badly we play, we're still the one and only Aston Villa and the rest can F'off.

Experienced defenders... Vlaar, not bad. Dunne? Shower of shite last season, why are we expecting him to suddenly be a rock this season?

Most of the players were shite last season and he is capable of playing well.

Anyway I said "Experienced", which is what we need. The young players have ability but they need experienced players to make sure they don't get pulled out of position, to keep them organised.

 If you want to view a international defender coming back into an inexperienced defence as a negative thats up to you. I see it as a positive.
It is a positive, but Dunne hasn't shown me much in the last 18 months he can offer us something more productive than what we have already got on the pitch. Vlaar can be part of what we need.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: rutski on January 14, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
There are 16 games still to play. What an opportunity to get some points and climb up the table.

It's always nice when the drugs really start to kick in. If only we could control what we say.
have we been relegated overnight, the same people spouting the same negative crap that they have for the last 3 seasons. we are the villa, we will fight to the very end!
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: MarkM on January 14, 2013, 10:31:44 AM
There are 16 games still to play. What an opportunity to get some points and climb up the table.

It's always nice when the drugs really start to kick in. If only we could control what we say.
have we been relegated overnight, the same people spouting the same negative crap that they have for the last 3 seasons. we are the villa, we will fight to the very end!

I hate to point this out but we have only won 6 league games in the last 12 months, how we are now supposed to go on a run that will carry us into the safety zone when we are already 6 points behind Sunderland in 14th is beyond me.

We may just survive to finish 17th but that is going to take a reliance on the teams around us have a worse run of it than us until the end of the season.

I don't think that just adding a couple of players will be enough, I hope that is is and that we survive but I think that this season is the season that we go down, we have been around the drop zone for three seasons now and sooner or later the trap door will open and we will fall through it.

Sad.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: villan1975 on January 14, 2013, 12:26:43 PM
There are 16 games still to play. What an opportunity to get some points and climb up the table.

It's always nice when the drugs really start to kick in. If only we could control what we say.
have we been relegated overnight, the same people spouting the same negative crap that they have for the last 3 seasons. we are the villa, we will fight to the very end!

Your fake positivity doesn't wash. We have been awful for three years now apart from fleeting glimpses of quality. Noone is

suggesting that we should stop fighting. The reality of the situation is that we are a very poor side who genuinely do look

one of the most disjointed disorganised since the premier league began. Teams who go on runs like this rarely turn it

around without significant change in management or player personnel. The sad thing is one of the only ways out of this mess other 

than changing manager is to spend over the odds on senior pro's who will only take the gamble of coming to a relegation threatened

team for significant wages. So no everything isn't great.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: not3bad on January 14, 2013, 01:07:22 PM
Positives: We will get some experience in in January.  Randy Lerner is comitted to providing the funds:

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2013/01/14/villa-owner-randy-lerner-to-pledge-cash-for-drop-fight/?

Sounds like Lambert has a good idea where the weaknesses are:

"Lambert has already indicated the need to add physical presence to the team with a new defender and midfielder high on his wish list."

We could still turn it round against Bradford.

West Brom lost in spectacular fashion on Saturday.

In the short term those are the only ones I can think of.
Title: Re: Are there any positives?
Post by: Ads on January 14, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
I think we just might squeak it past the Olbyon. Pick up three points, get into a final, not get beat by Millwall and sign one or two players, then we have a fighting chance against the Gerodies.

Southampton have a horrible run of fixtures too.
Title: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 02:36:21 PM
Just lately this forum has become so depressing obviously with good reason so I thought I'd start a thread with no negativity! Granted it will probably be a VERY quiet thread!

NO NEGATIVITY
NO STICKING THE BOOT INTO OUR CLUB

 :D

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2013/01/14/villa-owner-randy-lerner-to-pledge-cash-for-drop-fight/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2013/01/14/villa-owner-randy-lerner-to-pledge-cash-for-drop-fight/)

Well a couple of positives, firstly Randy accepting there's a problem secondly he's going to splash some cash
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/8396653/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Another bit of positive news anyone heard of this kid?


p.s doesn't have to be just transfer news in this thread anything at all POSITIVE
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MarkM on January 14, 2013, 02:41:29 PM
Tumbleweeds
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Risso on January 14, 2013, 02:42:17 PM
Sorry to be defeatist and all that a mere one post in, but that article just seems to be taking Lambert's post-match comments and imagining what Lerner might be thinking on the back of it.  Anything with "it is understood" in basically means totally made up, there's no substance to the piece at all.  Lambert reiterates that they'll try to get "one or two" in, which is what he's been saying since Christmas.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 14, 2013, 02:51:15 PM
Positive thread?

Yes, i'm fucking positive we're going to get relegated.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 02:52:55 PM
Cheers!
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: eastie on January 14, 2013, 02:53:07 PM
It's stopped snowing - cant think of much villa wise to be positive about though.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 14, 2013, 02:55:35 PM
We're in the semi final of a cup and still in with a chance of turning it round as long as Bradford don't get a corner. Hmm, that's it for now.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on January 14, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
We're on the shortlist for the most unusual venue in Britain apparently.Along with Alton Towers,Battersea Evoloution and the Gherkin and the Monastery,Manchester
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
getting better  8)
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: django on January 14, 2013, 03:03:08 PM
We might not actually be as shit as we look?
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: mrfuse on January 14, 2013, 03:04:28 PM
Well Im fed up with all the moaning so this thread suits me. I believe we've got a decent manager and once a few injuries and signing's happen, I honestly think we can avoid relegation and be stronger next season.

Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on January 14, 2013, 03:08:06 PM
A free flag,we can't afford any players but can afford flags.I know where I want to put my flag.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
A free flag,we can't afford any players but can afford flags.I know where I want to put my flag.

Strange that they will allow 35000 flags to block views but not one flag sup
A free flag,we can't afford any players but can afford flags.I know where I want to put my flag.

I will not comment on the flag situation on this positive thread :D
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: DerHammer on January 14, 2013, 03:17:04 PM
Can we lock this thread? ;)
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: N'Zimidy on January 14, 2013, 03:18:37 PM
Once Vlaar is back from injury we will be much more solid at the back. In the summer Dunne, Warnock (and I suppose Petrov) are off the books, freeing up a metric load in terms of wages. We still have a great shot at reaching the League Cup final. A lot of our youngsters are getting a lot of playtime and experience. You could argue against this but I think Delph, Lowton, Weimann, Baker, Clark and Westwood have all improved as footballers (you could say the results show otherwise but I feel that earlier in the season with Gabby, Vlaar, Benteke (on form) and El Ahmadi in the team we were much more solid and once they come back in those players I listed will be a marked improvement on what we saw in the first month).

I believe the manager has bought well over the summer and if we stick with him we will restore Villa to its former glory, all the youngsters are getting better and I think a couple of signings in this window combined with injuries coming back we will finish comfortably above the drop zone. In the summer we could hopefully offload some more time-wasters (Ireland, N'Zog, Bent?, Hutton, Makoun, Fonz) and bring in players that will actually play for us.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: paul_e on January 14, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
Seriously Risso, did you need to post in here?

I fully support the making of a thread that isn't full of people slagging the club and you gave it 5 minutes before rubbishing an article saying money is available.

Positives for me are:
-we're making chances, we've had a lot in the last 3 games.
-Delph is looking more like the player we hoped he'd become.
-We're getting close to a clean bill of health for the squad.
-We can still win silverware this year.
-We had the worst calendar year in our history and we're only in the bottom 3 on goal difference, getting out of it isn't the huge task it could've been after what we've been through. (that's slightly negative but with a positive twist).

I'm not ignoring the bad things, they just don't belong in here.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: not3bad on January 14, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
What's the difference between this thread and the "Are there any positives" one?
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 14, 2013, 03:30:27 PM
We're in the semi final of a cup and still in with a chance of turning it round as long as Bradford don't get a corner. Hmm, that's it for now.

Clampy, we are still in both cups....:)
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 03:31:38 PM
Seriously Risso, did you need to post in here?

I fully support the making of a thread that isn't full of people slagging the club and you gave it 5 minutes before rubbishing an article saying money is available.

Positives for me are:
-we're making chances, we've had a lot in the last 3 games.
-Delph is looking more like the player we hoped he'd become.
-We're getting close to a clean bill of health for the squad.
-We can still win silverware this year.
-We had the worst calendar year in our history and we're only in the bottom 3 on goal difference, getting out of it isn't the huge task it could've been after what we've been through. (that's slightly negative but with a positive twist).

I'm not ignoring the bad things, they just don't belong in here.

Amen brother!
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Risso on January 14, 2013, 03:34:20 PM
Seriously Risso, did you need to post in here?

I fully support the making of a thread that isn't full of people slagging the club and you gave it 5 minutes before rubbishing an article saying money is available.

Positives for me are:
-we're making chances, we've had a lot in the last 3 games.
-Delph is looking more like the player we hoped he'd become.
-We're getting close to a clean bill of health for the squad.
-We can still win silverware this year.
-We had the worst calendar year in our history and we're only in the bottom 3 on goal difference, getting out of it isn't the huge task it could've been after what we've been through. (that's slightly negative but with a positive twist).

I'm not ignoring the bad things, they just don't belong in here.

I don't need your permission to post, thanks, but on the understanding that you post in here and nowhere else from now on, I'll happily stay out of it in future.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 14, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
Yes i cant see the twat splashing the cash, Prove me wrong then i'll be positive
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: N'Zimidy on January 14, 2013, 03:37:55 PM
Yes i cant see the twat splashing the cash, Prove me wrong then i'll be positive

Couldn't you have said that in the countless other threads about Lerner, Lambert or transfers?
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 14, 2013, 03:39:07 PM
Sorry to be defeatist and all that a mere one post in, but that article just seems to be taking Lambert's post-match comments and imagining what Lerner might be thinking on the back of it.  Anything with "it is understood" in basically means totally made up, there's no substance to the piece at all.  Lambert reiterates that they'll try to get "one or two" in, which is what he's been saying since Christmas.

I think this is negative. I'd also say that the pies aren't very good. That's another.

And you know what they say, two negatives make a positive......
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 14, 2013, 03:42:25 PM
Seriously Risso, did you need to post in here?

I fully support the making of a thread that isn't full of people slagging the club and you gave it 5 minutes before rubbishing an article saying money is available.

Positives for me are:
-we're making chances, we've had a lot in the last 3 games.
-Delph is looking more like the player we hoped he'd become.
-We're getting close to a clean bill of health for the squad.
-We can still win silverware this year.
-We had the worst calendar year in our history and we're only in the bottom 3 on goal difference, getting out of it isn't the huge task it could've been after what we've been through. (that's slightly negative but with a positive twist).

I'm not ignoring the bad things, they just don't belong in here.

That is a source of hope for me as well.  If we were a number of points off safety then I think we would really be up against it, but the fact that it is so close down there means we stll can get out of this if we can make a few changes.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on January 14, 2013, 03:42:56 PM
I think we just need a good performance to kick start our season. A performance where everybody does there jobs properly, for example defending corners like you are supposed to,keeping a defensive shape, and taking our chances. When better, than do it on saturday against Smethwick. If we can do that in a local derby and get a win, it could just spur us on for the rest of the season.

As paul e says despite our wretched run, we are not cut adfift yet! Keep the faith boys and girls, we can still stay up and get to wembley...altogether now....THE BELLS ARE RINGING....
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Irish villain on January 14, 2013, 03:43:11 PM
Nobody wants to kick the club or to be negative. We all want to cheer the team on and help them through the battle in the hope that one day we can add to our illustrious history a few more bright chapters.

Some of us are just deeply concerned that there's no leadership, scant signs of fight and that we are conceding a phenomenal amount of goals and registering very few in response. It's a two way street. We are supporters of the club in thick and thin, it's life-blood. We have given them a lot of support so we are obviously going to be down when things are going as badly as they have been and the clock is ticking in terms of time to pick up the necessary points/bring in the necessary new players.

Club has to give us something to cling to if our spirits are to be raised again. Showing more fight on the pitch and spending some cash to fill the holes in our squad/midfield/defence would help allay the fears and fire us with som optimism.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: paul_e on January 14, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Seriously Risso, did you need to post in here?

I fully support the making of a thread that isn't full of people slagging the club and you gave it 5 minutes before rubbishing an article saying money is available.

Positives for me are:
-we're making chances, we've had a lot in the last 3 games.
-Delph is looking more like the player we hoped he'd become.
-We're getting close to a clean bill of health for the squad.
-We can still win silverware this year.
-We had the worst calendar year in our history and we're only in the bottom 3 on goal difference, getting out of it isn't the huge task it could've been after what we've been through. (that's slightly negative but with a positive twist).

I'm not ignoring the bad things, they just don't belong in here.

I don't need your permission to post, thanks, but on the understanding that you post in here and nowhere else from now on, I'll happily stay out of it in future.

Create a post entitled 'the miserable defeatists post' and I'll happily avoid it and let you moan to your hearts content, if you have nothing positive to say why post in a thread called 'The Positive Thread'?  You have hundreds of others to slate Lerner and Lambert in, just leave this one be for people who want to see some silver lining to your big grey cloud.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 03:47:51 PM
Nobody wants to kick the club or to be negative. We all want to cheer the team on and help them through the battle in the hope that one day we can add to our illustrious history a few more bright chapters.

Some of us are just deeply concerned that there's no leadership, scant signs of fight and that we are conceding a phenomenal amount of goals and registering very few in response. It's a two way street. We are supporters of the club in thick and thin, it's life-blood. We have given them a lot of support so we are obviously going to be down when things are going as badly as they have been and the clock is ticking in terms of time to pick up the necessary points/bring in the necessary new players.

Club has to give us something to cling to if our spirits are to be raised again. Showing more fight on the pitch and spending some cash to fill the holes in our squad/midfield/defence would help allay the fears and fire us with som optimism.

I disagree with your first sentence theirs some that have no middle ground and they basically attacking everything about the club the Academy thread is a perfect example of this.

Keep Smiling be happy your Villain  :D
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Risso on January 14, 2013, 03:51:18 PM
I think Weimann is potentially the best young player we've had in years.  There.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 03:52:44 PM
I think Weimann is potentially the best young player we've had in years.  There.

(http://hopestillfloats.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/applause.gif)

Thats the spirit Rissbert
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 14, 2013, 03:53:43 PM
We've had our bad run.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 04:02:17 PM
One thing that made me smile no chuckle this weekend was hearing about the head steward in Lower Holte waiting to pounce on the 19th minute on the "ONE STAN PETROV" banner the banner didnt appear and he wore a smug look on his face until the banner showed up on the big screen, lets just say he no longer looked smug! Apparently the banners foster parents said the stewards didn't bother with the banner until the got the screaming through the radio "IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED!"  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/cWbJr.jpg)

THE BANNER STAYS TILL PETROV PLAYS!
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 14, 2013, 04:11:37 PM
Rissbert is still Rissbert rather than Risstteo
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on January 14, 2013, 04:14:55 PM
The only way we are going to get back up the table is by all sticking together and being positive.  I salute this thread and I look forward to the return of the orange dot through which I can channel all my positive vibes - let's wheel it out for the West Brom game and give them a stuffing.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: littlevillain on January 14, 2013, 04:18:12 PM
The positive for me is that we have an incredible following as always.
In the bottom 3 and still getting 34k against another crap team is brilliant and our away following is still one of the loudest
in the league. Regardless of the players WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 14, 2013, 04:28:20 PM
The positive thread has run to three pages. Yay!
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 04:31:55 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_x1w9f3kXWq8/TIqq09i9ZjI/AAAAAAAABiQ/25sQez3w7oU/s1600/aston+villa+(crop).jpg)

maybe a little nsfw but will raise a smile  ;)
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MarkM on January 14, 2013, 04:58:19 PM
One thing that made me smile no chuckle this weekend was hearing about the head steward in Lower Holte waiting to pounce on the 19th minute on the "ONE STAN PETROV" banner the banner didnt appear and he wore a smug look on his face until the banner showed up on the big screen, lets just say he no longer looked smug! Apparently the banners foster parents said the stewards didn't bother with the banner until the got the screaming through the radio "IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED!"  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/cWbJr.jpg)

THE BANNER STAYS TILL PETROV PLAYS!

Why is it banned?
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
One thing that made me smile no chuckle this weekend was hearing about the head steward in Lower Holte waiting to pounce on the 19th minute on the "ONE STAN PETROV" banner the banner didnt appear and he wore a smug look on his face until the banner showed up on the big screen, lets just say he no longer looked smug! Apparently the banners foster parents said the stewards didn't bother with the banner until the got the screaming through the radio "IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED!"  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/cWbJr.jpg)

THE BANNER STAYS TILL PETROV PLAYS!

Why is it banned?

People complained it blocked their view for 60 seconds
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 14, 2013, 05:12:07 PM
One thing that made me smile no chuckle this weekend was hearing about the head steward in Lower Holte waiting to pounce on the 19th minute on the "ONE STAN PETROV" banner the banner didnt appear and he wore a smug look on his face until the banner showed up on the big screen, lets just say he no longer looked smug! Apparently the banners foster parents said the stewards didn't bother with the banner until the got the screaming through the radio "IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED!"  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/cWbJr.jpg)

THE BANNER STAYS TILL PETROV PLAYS!

Why is it banned?

People complained it blocked their view for 60 seconds

That sounds like a positive to me.
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 14, 2013, 05:14:31 PM
One thing that made me smile no chuckle this weekend was hearing about the head steward in Lower Holte waiting to pounce on the 19th minute on the "ONE STAN PETROV" banner the banner didnt appear and he wore a smug look on his face until the banner showed up on the big screen, lets just say he no longer looked smug! Apparently the banners foster parents said the stewards didn't bother with the banner until the got the screaming through the radio "IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED!"  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/cWbJr.jpg)

THE BANNER STAYS TILL PETROV PLAYS!

Why is it banned?

People complained it blocked their view for 60 seconds

That sounds like a positive to me.

Haha yeah  ;D
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 14, 2013, 05:21:38 PM
One thing that made me smile no chuckle this weekend was hearing about the head steward in Lower Holte waiting to pounce on the 19th minute on the "ONE STAN PETROV" banner the banner didnt appear and he wore a smug look on his face until the banner showed up on the big screen, lets just say he no longer looked smug! Apparently the banners foster parents said the stewards didn't bother with the banner until the got the screaming through the radio "IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED! IT'S BANNED!"  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/cWbJr.jpg)

THE BANNER STAYS TILL PETROV PLAYS!

Why is it banned?

People complained it blocked their view for 60 seconds

Others moaned they didn't keep it up for the other 89!
Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 14, 2013, 05:23:52 PM
Rissbert is still Rissbert rather than Risstteo
or even Rissurbishley

Title: Re: The Positive Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 14, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
I think we just need a good performance to kick start our season. A performance where everybody does there jobs properly, for example defending corners like you are supposed to,keeping a defensive shape, and taking our chances. When better, than do it on saturday against Smethwick. If we can do that in a local derby and get a win, it could just spur us on for the rest of the season.

Absolutely! There's nothing like winning a local derby to raise the spirits and coupled with a convincing win against Bradford will make these last few weeks of pain worth the price. The confidence it would bring the team would be amazing.

We all knew this season would see a lot of ups and downs. We're long overdue a big 'up' and what better place to start the away at the Baggies. Bring it on!
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: VillaAlways on January 14, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
I think we just need a good performance to kick start our season. A performance where everybody does there jobs properly, for example defending corners like you are supposed to,keeping a defensive shape, and taking our chances. When better, than do it on saturday against Smethwick. If we can do that in a local derby and get a win, it could just spur us on for the rest of the season.

Absolutely! There's nothing like winning a local derby to raise the spirits and coupled with a convincing win against Bradford will make these last few weeks of pain worth the price. The confidence it would bring the team would be amazing.

We all knew this season would see a lot of ups and downs. We're long overdue a big 'up' and what better place to start the away at the Baggies. Bring it on!
We couldn't possibly be playing them at a better time.3straight defeats,having lost a 2 goal lead in 10 mins last time out and they've got an FA Cup replay midweek so we will be fresher hopefully
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 14, 2013, 06:03:09 PM
Two or three new faces in the team can make the world of difference,and give a lift to the whole squad. I remember when in 94 we bought Johnson,Taylor and Charles and instantly the team got a lift(i know it nearly went tits up) We're not that far off Fulham,so a decent result and more importantly a perfrormance on Sat could be a turning point.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Kingthing on January 14, 2013, 08:13:55 PM
Beer. So underrated gets me through the toughest. Saturdays/Sundays/Tuesdays/Fridays
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Apyadg on January 14, 2013, 08:20:31 PM
We're not that far off Fulham,

Fuck me, that really hits home how far we've fallen.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 14, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
2 or 3 players. Don't lose to WBA. Get through to the League Cup Final.. And we'll be world beaters again..
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Lobsterboy on January 14, 2013, 09:35:24 PM
Only 11 days to pay day!
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 14, 2013, 09:35:49 PM
10 days for me. :)
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: claret and blue blood on January 14, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
Not sure this applies to this thread but straws and clutching come to mind anyway the single of the week free on I tunes this week is by Milo Green, the title................................................ '1957'   I'm taking that as a good omen !
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: not3bad on January 14, 2013, 10:35:53 PM
Rissbert is still Rissbert rather than Risstteo
or even Rissurbishley



Damn, I've got the word "Birmin'am" going through my head now.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 14, 2013, 11:14:38 PM
Beer. So underrated gets me through the toughest. Saturdays/Sundays/Tuesdays/Fridays

I thought you were off the sauce this month mate?
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Kingthing on January 15, 2013, 07:55:31 AM
Beer. So underrated gets me through the toughest. Saturdays/Sundays/Tuesdays/Fridays

I thought you were off the sauce this month mate?

I was mate but I can't watch the Villa without drink and I have too many games in Jan, I'm putting it back to Feb.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 15, 2013, 08:21:28 AM
Rissbert is still Rissbert rather than Risstteo
or even Rissurbishley



Damn, I've got the word "Birmin'am" going through my head now.

Curbishley's Brother could do a job for us.
You better you bet.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 15, 2013, 08:53:58 AM
RissGoranEriksson
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Damo70 on January 15, 2013, 09:37:52 AM
1. Instead of 'doing a Portsmouth', Harry will do a Southampton. (Look it up if you can, his mates in the press like to airbrush it from history.)

2. Dave Whelan and the next Barcelona manager will get what's coming to them.

3. Brian McDermott will get what he deserves for trying to spoil the party all those years ago.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: danlanza on January 15, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
Beer. So underrated gets me through the toughest. Saturdays/Sundays/Tuesdays/Fridays

I thought you were off the sauce this month mate?

I was mate but I can't watch the Villa without drink and I have too many games in Jan, I'm putting it back to Feb.
I woud leave it until the end of the season Kingthing. The beer is a great healer in times of trouble. Go dry after the season ends (YOU WILL NEED THE BEER) ;)
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Lobsterboy on January 15, 2013, 09:57:08 PM
Birmingham lost. West Brom lost. Martin O'Neill's Sunderland lost #goodtimes
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: nodge on January 15, 2013, 09:58:30 PM
This is our bad patch. We'll be fucking brilliant in March
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 16, 2013, 01:23:34 AM
Beer. So underrated gets me through the toughest. Saturdays/Sundays/Tuesdays/Fridays

I thought you were off the sauce this month mate?

I was mate but I can't watch the Villa without drink and I have too many games in Jan, I'm putting it back to Feb.


So we can have a wee snifter before the Millwall game then?
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 16, 2013, 09:44:56 AM
This is our bad patch. We'll be fucking brilliant in March
I have no faith in that statement.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: MarkM on January 16, 2013, 10:03:37 AM
This is our bad patch. We'll be fucking brilliant in March
I have no faith in that statement.

Dont really remember a 'good' patch

We had a ok ish patch but thats about it
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 16, 2013, 10:04:27 AM
This is our bad patch. We'll be fucking brilliant in March
I have no faith in that statement.

Dont really remember a 'good' patch

We had a ok ish patch but thats about it
I thought last season was bad. I can't believe this is happening again to Villa. Why haven't we learnt anything? We're leaving too much to chance now. We are going to go down. I'm resigned to it.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: nodge on January 16, 2013, 10:20:50 PM
This is our bad patch. We'll be fucking brilliant in March
I have no faith in that statement.

Dont really remember a 'good' patch

We had a ok ish patch but thats about it

I was being moronic. Our bad patch started in August!

This time two years ago we were 1 win better off and ended up 9th. Ok I'm struggling.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 17, 2013, 09:23:23 AM
This time two years ago we were 1 win better off and ended up 9th. Ok I'm struggling.
With 11 better players than we have now. We're down. Sorry to say it.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: Richard E on January 17, 2013, 09:28:40 AM
This is our bad patch. We'll be fucking brilliant in March

What with our record in March historically being so good and all that...
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 17, 2013, 09:29:26 AM
This is our bad patch. We'll be fucking brilliant in March

What with our record in March historically being so good and all that...
I blame MON for that.

*clutches at straw*
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: paul_e on January 17, 2013, 10:13:09 AM
This time two years ago we were 1 win better off and ended up 9th. Ok I'm struggling.
With 11 better players than we have now. We're down. Sorry to say it.

Not in this thread, there's lots of others where you can give up on the season with 16 games left in the league and with both cups still a possibility!!

For me there's very little between the squads of the teams in the bottom half of the table, our squad has been tested by injuries whereas a lot of the other sides have been fairly lucky so far.

With the number of signings we made in the summer and the form we'd carried in from last year the first 4-5 were always going to be tough, then we started to turn it around and had a decent run from early october until the Chelsea game and, if we can get back to the form we were showing in that stable period in the middle (which I think is the true measure of the squad), we've got enough to get out of the bottom 3.

I also think Newcastle and Fulham will get drawn further into the mix and I don't think Wigan have the quality to escape again this year.  Add to that the fact that I just don't see QPR going on this amazing run that some of you are convinced will happen and that Reading are really poor and we've still got it in our own hands to fight our way clear.  A win at the weekend would be massive though, their form is as bad as ours so we just need to go at them and put a bit of pressure on from the start.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: myf on January 22, 2013, 09:58:53 PM
unbeaten in 2!
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: martin o`who?? on January 23, 2013, 08:57:24 AM
Yeah, i`m positive were in the shit!.
Title: Re: Be Positive
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 23, 2013, 09:23:21 AM
There are no more positives. Not even Benteke. Not even Guzan. Not even Lowton. They're all not playing well enough. Fuck it AVFC. I no longer like you.
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