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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: N'ZMAV on January 10, 2013, 10:46:11 AM
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So, he never scored a league goal at Villa Park in 2012? oh dear. :o
Is that correct?
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Probably just scored that sunderland one away
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Gabby is an easy target and yes he has had a lapse in form, but consider injuries, differnt managers and different uses of him and often being played out of position.
In comparison to the performances of people like Bennett Kea Delph Bannan Ireland Nzog he is not doing that badly.
I prefer to see Gabbys name on the team sheet than any of the aforementioned above.
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Last time he scored at home was Norwich in Nov 2011 I think
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I agree he's been in and out for various reasons, but he should really have scored at home in that period.
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He has more pace than skill, and should always be the furthest forward, playing on the shoulder of the last defender. The opposition then drop deeper to accommodate him, creating more space in midfield. He is wasted anywhere else.
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Doesn't matter. He's Mr.Aston Villa. He doesn't need to score ;D
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Right, who should we pick on next?
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Right, who should we pick on next?
If we're talking about underperforming players, there's a huge list to choose from. It's hardly picking on a player.
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Right, who should we pick on next?
If we're talking about underperforming players, there's a huge list to choose from. It's hardly picking on a player.
Singling out one player from an under performing squad is, to my mind, picking on him. In Gabby's case I think it's particularly undeserved as he's been played out wide a lot of the time, he's also missed time with injuries and he's one that you can never criticise for lack of commitment and unlike some he doesn't hide when the going gets tough.
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Right, who should we pick on next?
Stating facts isn't necessarily picking on players :)
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Right, who should we pick on next?
If we're talking about underperforming players, there's a huge list to choose from. It's hardly picking on a player.
Singling out one player from an under performing squad is, to my mind, picking on him.
Only really if he's being picked out and others aren't.
A quick look at the various threads shows pretty much every squad member to have "copped it" the last few days. In fact, over the whole season.
I take your argument re Gabby, and agree with much of it, but someone disagreeing with it and posting to that effect doesn't make it picking on him, or - as someone is bound to use the word soon enough - scapegoating him. It just makes them disagreeing with you.
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He has more pace than skill, and should always be the furthest forward, playing on the shoulder of the last defender. The opposition then drop deeper to accommodate him, creating more space in midfield. He is wasted anywhere else.
In a nutshell.
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It was good to see us being able to bring on a player of his quality from the bench. There haven't been that many opportunities to do that; something which those at the top take for granted.
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He isn't good enough and he's had plenty of chances. He's no longer up and coming with an opportunity to develop (unlike a lot of our squad).
Time for him to move on to a team more at his level e.g. Wolves.
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His finishing is no better than old Darius
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Right, who should we pick on next?
If we're talking about underperforming players, there's a huge list to choose from. It's hardly picking on a player.
Singling out one player from an under performing squad is, to my mind, picking on him.
Only really if he's being picked out and others aren't.
A quick look at the various threads shows pretty much every squad member to have "copped it" the last few days. In fact, over the whole season.
I take your argument re Gabby, and agree with much of it, but someone disagreeing with it and posting to that effect doesn't make it picking on him, or - as someone is bound to use the word soon enough - scapegoating him. It just makes them disagreeing with you.
Point taken.
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Right, who should we pick on next?
If we're talking about underperforming players, there's a huge list to choose from. It's hardly picking on a player.
Singling out one player from an under performing squad is, to my mind, picking on him.
Only really if he's being picked out and others aren't.
A quick look at the various threads shows pretty much every squad member to have "copped it" the last few days. In fact, over the whole season.
I take your argument re Gabby, and agree with much of it, but someone disagreeing with it and posting to that effect doesn't make it picking on him, or - as someone is bound to use the word soon enough - scapegoating him. It just makes them disagreeing with you.
Point taken.
Although having an entire thread about him does single him out a bit, I'll admit.
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In comparison to the performances of people like Bennett Kea Delph Bannan Ireland Nzog he is not doing that badly.
I prefer to see Gabbys name on the team sheet than any of the aforementioned above.
Bannan doesn't belong on that list.
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In comparison to the performances of people like Bennett Kea Delph Bannan Ireland Nzog he is not doing that badly.
I prefer to see Gabbys name on the team sheet than any of the aforementioned above.
Bannan doesn't belong on that list.
indeed. having a pop at underperforming established stars is one thing, but I think Bannan has the makings of a good premier league player.
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His finishing is no better than old Darius
Worse most of the time
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Doesn't matter. He's Mr.Aston Villa. He doesn't need to score ;D
Always stirring the pot, Paul.
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In comparison to the performances of people like Bennett Kea Delph Bannan Ireland Nzog he is not doing that badly.
I prefer to see Gabbys name on the team sheet than any of the aforementioned above.
Bannan doesn't belong on that list.
indeed. having a pop at underperforming established stars is one thing, but I think Bannan has the makings of a good premier league player.
he is actually more deserving than most, he has had plenty of time to realise that giving the ball away 10 times in a row is no way to win a footballl match. His performance against Bradford was just worse than Bennett.
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In comparison to the performances of people like Bennett Kea Delph Bannan Ireland Nzog he is not doing that badly.
I prefer to see Gabbys name on the team sheet than any of the aforementioned above.
Bannan doesn't belong on that list.
He most certainly does.
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In comparison to the performances of people like Bennett Kea Delph Bannan Ireland Nzog he is not doing that badly.
I prefer to see Gabbys name on the team sheet than any of the aforementioned above.
Bannan doesn't belong on that list.
indeed. having a pop at underperforming established stars is one thing, but I think Bannan has the makings of a good premier league player.
he is actually more deserving than most, he has had plenty of time to realise that giving the ball away 10 times in a row is no way to win a footballl match. His performance against Bradford was just worse than Bennett.
Bannan must be used sparingly and responsibly. He can play a decent role in some games but 9 times out of 10 his opposition central midfielder is a class above. I'm afraid he can't hack it in the Prem as much as we want him to. He's a turn over machine, isn't creative enough, isn't effective at the top the box, a shoddy free kick taker, can't defend, and isn't a leader.
As for Gabby, we've given you the benefit of the doubt long enough. We get it, you're fast.. but seriously score goals or move on.
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Gabby has had three years of being shite. Best for all parties if he moved on. He got a chance at playing up top by himself when Bent was injured last season and he was gash. He was developing into a fine player under MON but that day has well and truly gone. Can see him slipping down the leagues ala Vassell to be honest.
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Gabby has had three years of being shite. Best for all parties if he moved on. He got a chance at playing up top by himself when Bent was injured last season and he was gash. He was developing into a fine player under MON but that day has well and truly gone. Can see him slipping down the leagues ala Vassell to be honest.
Exactly my feelings.
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Perfectly put, brontebilly.
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Gabby has had three years of being shite. Best for all parties if he moved on. He got a chance at playing up top by himself when Bent was injured last season and he was gash. He was developing into a fine player under MON but that day has well and truly gone. Can see him slipping down the leagues ala Vassell to be honest.
Exactly my feelings.
Me too, I think he gets cut some slack for that fact he's a loyal fan, but the last 3 years he's been a shadow of the player he once was , should be approaching the peak of his career but he's gone the other way.
Maybe mon would be able to reignite him at Sunderland but I can't see many others being interested in him.
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If Gabby would've been player bought from another club years ago, he would've been hounded out of the club by fans two years ago but because he's "our own player" he is spared from the stick.
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Gabby has had three years of being shite. Best for all parties if he moved on. He got a chance at playing up top by himself when Bent was injured last season and he was gash. He was developing into a fine player under MON but that day has well and truly gone. Can see him slipping down the leagues ala Vassell to be honest.
Exactly my feelings.
Me too, I think he gets cut some slack for that fact he's a loyal fan, but the last 3 years he's been a shadow of the player he once was , should be approaching the peak of his career but he's gone the other way.
Maybe mon would be able to reignite him at Sunderland but I can't see many others being interested in him.
He needs to lose the weight.
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Gabby has had three years of being shite. Best for all parties if he moved on. He got a chance at playing up top by himself when Bent was injured last season and he was gash. He was developing into a fine player under MON but that day has well and truly gone. Can see him slipping down the leagues ala Vassell to be honest.
Not that I disagree with your point, but is moving players on the best course of action at the moment? We're hardly dripping with experienced players.
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He's experienced and has been shite the last 3 years. A swap deal for Craig Gardner would be ok by me.
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He's experienced and has been shite the last 3 years. A swap deal for Craig Gardner would be ok by me.
I bet Sunderland would take that as well.
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Only read this page, have to say I thought he was a disgrace the other night. Bennett was in trouble in first half but did he give him any help? I dont think so.
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Never made a secret that I am a huge Gabby fan. And as much as a lot of the criticism in recent months of his play has been justified I wonder if today will wake him from his slumber? He's a streaky player so bit of a shame the break has come when it has. Still, today was the Gabby we all know and love. One swallow does not a summer make, but excellent today and along with strike partner.
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First half today was a throw back to the MON days. Really good to see
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He looked hungry and so up for it, I can't wait for Benteke to come back and have a front three of Gabby-Benteke-Weimann
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Never made a secret that I am a huge Gabby fan. And as much as a lot of the criticism in recent months of his play has been justified I wonder if today will wake him from his slumber? He's a streaky player so bit of a shame the break has come when it has. Still, today was the Gabby we all know and love. One swallow does not a summer make, but excellent today and along with strike partner.
For someone who is so anal about threads I'd have thought this should be in the Official Gabby Appreciation Thread.
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Never made a secret that I am a huge Gabby fan. And as much as a lot of the criticism in recent months of his play has been justified I wonder if today will wake him from his slumber? He's a streaky player so bit of a shame the break has come when it has. Still, today was the Gabby we all know and love. One swallow does not a summer make, but excellent today and along with strike partner.
For someone who is so anal about threads I'd have thought this should be in the Official Gabby Appreciation Thread.
I'm anal about threads?
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That was his best game for a while and he shouldn't have been subbed, unless he'd taken a knock. At times, he looked the Gabby of old.
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That was was best game for a while and he shouldn't have been subbed, unless he'd taken a knock. At times, he looked the Gabby of old.
He looked bagged by the end. He'd run himself into the ground so that was why I think?
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I'm not his biggest fan .Thought it was brilliant how he acknowledged the crowd as he went off - cos he's one of us , ain't he ? Meh.
That aside - was probably his best game since Liverpool away.
Let's hope it's the start of a rennaissance - rather than having to wait for another few months for a decent display again.
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He took a bit of a knock when that hull player tangled with him.
(think his thigh got stood on if I remember right.)
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McShane stepped on his shin/calf. First half is why Gabby gets so much stick. He was superb, but we only see it a few times a season. Last we saw it was Liverpool away, 19 league games ago.
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That was his best game for a while and he shouldn't have been subbed, unless he'd taken a knock. At times, he looked the Gabby of old.
Lambert signalled that Gabby was injured
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The whole squad has struggled with form and confidence, no different for Gabby I suppose.
It was great seeing his and Weimann's name under the scoreline.