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Title: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 06, 2013, 11:05:43 AM
Tuesday 8.1.13 KO 7:45pm

0-3 away win

Bent 16
Weimann 42
Bannan 65
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 06, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
All over in this leg I reckon.

Charlie and Bent may get a start.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 06, 2013, 11:20:54 AM
2-2
Baker and Bennett
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nigel on January 06, 2013, 11:29:44 AM
I can't see us losing. But, they'll be pumped up and will go with a wave of emotion. Could be very similar to the Ipswich game.
I'm going to give Bradford their moment of glory.
1-1 draw
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 06, 2013, 11:35:06 AM
I'm going to go 1-2, with them scoring first. Benteke and Gabby for us.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bowers on January 06, 2013, 11:35:45 AM
Bradford will give it everything and take the game to us because if they let us dictate the pace we will come out on top and in all likelihood make the 2nd leg an irrelevant game. Although both legs are on tv, Bradford need the gate money as well as the tv money and a poor showing at home will further affect the gate at Villa Park. Do not expect an easy time and be happy with a late goal for us and a 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 06, 2013, 11:46:01 AM
1-3 villa win. ?


                               Given

     Lowton.      Clark.   Baker.      Bennett

         Bannan.       Delph.        Nzogbia

                          Weimann

                 Bent.         Benteke     
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 06, 2013, 12:09:02 PM
2-1 Benteke and Weimann scoring.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on January 06, 2013, 12:10:15 PM
This will be tougher for Bradford than the Arsenal game. Not because its us but because Arsenal was their "Cup Final". To come through that and lift themselves twice more to the same levels will be difficult. The first 20 mins as ever will be vital. If they get their noses in front then the adrenalin and crowd may see them through in the first leg. The longer it goes the more jittery they will become. Especially if its still close towards the end of the second leg as the prospect of losing a bigWembley final appearance will affect them like no other game.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on January 06, 2013, 12:21:29 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'Zimidy on January 06, 2013, 12:29:12 PM
4-0 Villa.

Can't see them scoring, even if our defence is rather naff.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 06, 2013, 12:31:03 PM
Think we will win this by 2 goals but would like a draw so we have something to shout about in the return leg otherwise it could be a bit dull and I love semi-finals more than finals...
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 06, 2013, 12:40:51 PM
Nothing would please me more, than to be watching a dead rubber fixture in a fortnight, but I think that's a bit optimistic.

If we're already as good as Wembley bound by the end of this fixture, then a dull 2nd leg is fine with me.

However, I think 2-2 with Tranmere-esque return leg.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on January 06, 2013, 12:46:56 PM
I fancy a 3-1 to us, they cant be that good, they lost 2-0 at Barnet yesterday..we cant mess this up surely.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 06, 2013, 12:47:38 PM
I fancy a 3-1 to us, they cant be that good, they lost 2-0 at Barnet yesterday..we cant mess this up surely.

We're Aston Villa...
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on January 06, 2013, 12:49:02 PM
I fancy a 3-1 to us, they cant be that good, they lost 2-0 at Barnet yesterday..we cant mess this up surely.

We're Aston Villa...
Thats what im worried about!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 06, 2013, 12:51:51 PM
I think it'll be pretty tight,we'll probably go a goal behind,but take them back to VP with a 2-1 to us win.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 06, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
It would nice to go back to VP with a good lead but it's not what we do is it?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: junxs on January 06, 2013, 01:00:39 PM
Hope the tie is dead by the time the 2nd leg comes around
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 06, 2013, 01:02:49 PM
Hope the tie is dead by the time the 2nd leg comes around

I thought the same when we went to tranmere but was grateful for dalians late consolation- here though I think we will have far too much quality for a league 2 side .

As long as we don't concede early we should beat them fairly comfortably.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 06, 2013, 01:04:08 PM
I prefer to think of them as Division 4.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfc_1874 on January 06, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
They'll be fired up for this. Wouldn't be surprised if we did lose. I think it will end up 1-1 though.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 06, 2013, 01:08:37 PM
They'll be fired up for this. Wouldn't be surprised if we did lose. I think it will end up 1-1 though.

With a Wembley final at stake we will be fired up and match them for effort and heart, quality will tell, I am not worried by this game , I respect bradford but over 2 legs I think we will be far too good for them .
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 06, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
               Guzan

Lowton-Clark-Baker-Bennett

    Delph-Bannan-Holman

  Weimann-Benteke-Gabby

N'Zogbia on for Gabby after an hour, 3-0 Villa win.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on January 06, 2013, 01:11:20 PM
1-2
Benteke and Weimann for us.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 06, 2013, 01:15:34 PM
I fancy a 3-1 to us, they cant be that good, they lost 2-0 at Barnet yesterday..we cant mess this up surely.

We're Aston Villa...
Thats what im worried about!

I bet on some Arsenal forum before there game someone said "we can`t mess this up surely" not being negative but PL and the players themselves will know they are going to a place where there will be high adrenalin and a hysterical crowd. Still our crowd will not exactly be quiet !!! 1-2 Benteke Bennet ...
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on January 06, 2013, 01:17:43 PM
After his goalscoring return of Darren Bent, does anyone think he should retain his place at the expense of Benteke?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 06, 2013, 01:19:13 PM
After his goalscoring return of Darren Bent, does anyone think he should retain his place at the expense of Benteke?

No- both should start with Weimann just behind them - we will have plenty of chances and bent is a finisher.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 06, 2013, 01:22:03 PM
Think Bent will be a bit sore after Ipswich game. Probably start with Gabby and Weiman alongside Benteke and bring Bent on for the last half hour .......
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on January 06, 2013, 01:22:27 PM
After his goalscoring return of Darren Bent, does anyone think he should retain his place at the expense of Benteke?

No- both should start with Weimann just behind them - we will have plenty of chances and bent is a finisher.
Good shout, we really should go for this tie from the start, and hopefully put this tie "to bed" as soon as possible, we could also give Nzgobia a run out, after his promising return yesterday.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 06, 2013, 01:23:38 PM
We're not at home to Mr Cock Up, we're not at home to Mr Cock Up..
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 06, 2013, 01:30:21 PM
The problem with playing three forwards is that it would'nt surprise me if Bradford went for a five man midfield with one up front to try and stifle us.

I'd definatley play Bannan, Holman and Delph in the middle. I just can't decide who to choose out of Gabby and N'Zogbia as the wide man.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 06, 2013, 01:40:15 PM
We've scored three goals or more in every game in this competition so far and I expect that to continue. We have a lot of options upfront, and not many at all elsewhere in the side. Their major threat is likely to be set pieces and I wonder if herd will play either as a third centre back or holding midfielder. I was really disappointed with bannan yday.

I think I'd go:

Given - Lowton Clark baker Bennett - herd delph - weimann Holman nzogbia / gabby - Benteke

Subs: guzan lichaj Stevens bannan Ireland nzogbia / gabby bent

But I think there's a chance herd will play cb, bent and Benteke up front and either Holman or nzogbia behind the forwards.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 06, 2013, 01:50:19 PM
The problem with playing three forwards is that it would'nt surprise me if Bradford went for a five man midfield with one up front to try and stifle us.

I'd definatley play Bannan, Holman and Delph in the middle. I just can't decide who to choose out of Gabby and N'Zogbia as the wide man.

Not the way i see it clampy , I think bradford need to attack in this game - cant see them trying one up front , if they don't get a lead by 2 goals they will be finished - I expect an open game .
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on January 06, 2013, 01:57:15 PM
think we'll score at least. 1-1
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 06, 2013, 02:03:35 PM
Them 1 Us 3.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 06, 2013, 02:09:08 PM
2-1 to us.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 06, 2013, 02:14:11 PM
We could do with a clean sheet, whether we'll get one or not is another matter, but I'll plump for 2-0 to us.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on January 06, 2013, 02:34:54 PM
Think they'll come flying out the blocks to try and get an early goal. Withstand that, gradually assert our superiority, and run out 3-1 winners
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 06, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
0-5 Villa.

A tight 45 minutes, but all over by the hour mark.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on January 06, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
This is going to be a tough game.  Bradford are going to be out there to keep a clean sheet and try and nick one on the break.  We have been susceptible to the odd goal on the break.  If we can score early then the game changes but the longer it stays 0-0 the more we will throw at them and the more likely we could be caught.  A draw is fine, they've got to keep us out for 180 minutes +, tough with Benteke, Weimann and Bent.  It ain't going to be pretty.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 06, 2013, 02:53:15 PM
Bradford eight Villa eleventy.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on January 06, 2013, 02:55:18 PM
We know it won't be easy and that they start off at a fast pace, them beating Arsenal will be in the players heads and will provide motivation and stop complecancy.

0-2 and virtually all but settled
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 06, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
We need to do them in the last ten or fifteen minutes, when they're tiring and hanging on for a result to take into the second leg.

If it's close I'd throw on a couple of attacking players like Lambert did at Swindon.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 06, 2013, 03:21:29 PM
1-2 win.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 06, 2013, 03:25:53 PM
We need to do them in the last ten or fifteen minutes, when they're tiring and hanging on for a result to take into the second leg.

If it's close I'd throw on a couple of attacking players like Lambert did at Swindon.

I think a draw will be no good to them , they will need to win at the parade and we can pick them off , an early villa goal and it would really deflate the bantams.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: neo_Villan on January 06, 2013, 03:31:02 PM
Not going to predict the team but I do think Given, N'Zogbia and Bent should probably start. Zog should only be given a half though as we need him for Saturday.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 06, 2013, 04:14:56 PM
We need to do them in the last ten or fifteen minutes, when they're tiring and hanging on for a result to take into the second leg.

If it's close I'd throw on a couple of attacking players like Lambert did at Swindon.

I think a draw will be no good to them , they will need to win at the parade and we can pick them off , an early villa goal and it would really deflate the bantams.

The deflation of the bantams will certainly be key.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on January 06, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
4-0 to us, Gabby x2, Benteke and Bent.

I'd keep Bent on the bench to come on as a sub.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Apyadg on January 06, 2013, 04:43:39 PM
We need to do them in the last ten or fifteen minutes, when they're tiring and hanging on for a result to take into the second leg.

If it's close I'd throw on a couple of attacking players like Lambert did at Swindon.

I think a draw will be no good to them , they will need to win at the parade and we can pick them off , an early villa goal and it would really deflate the bantams.

The deflation of the bantams will certainly be key.

How do these bantams keep getting inflated in the first place? People need to leave the bantams alone.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on January 06, 2013, 04:51:24 PM
Especially as it isn't even Bantam season yet.
3-1 Villa
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on January 06, 2013, 04:56:50 PM
Head says draw, heart says 3-1 win!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 06, 2013, 04:59:19 PM
I think we just need to ride the storm that i am sure they will create, for the first 30 mins. Get over that and I reckon we can win the away leg and finish the job at home quite safely.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 06, 2013, 05:02:49 PM
It'd be nice if we could give them a good battering, then get a couple of players into the squad before we play Saints.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 06, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
How much of a storm can a middling 4th division outfit create?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on January 06, 2013, 05:09:17 PM
How much of a storm can a middling 4th division outfit create?

Quite a bit against Arsenal
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 06, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
From the highlights they spent most of the game hanging onto a one goal lead and then 30 minutes to a draw.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on January 06, 2013, 05:10:23 PM
I'm fully expecting a win. Anything less and questions should be asked.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 06, 2013, 05:18:55 PM
I'd like draw or narrow win in first leg followed by another tennis score on second leg.

6-3, 6-2 etc.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on January 06, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
2-2 draw. Benteke and weinmann scoring
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 06, 2013, 05:25:19 PM
How much of a storm can a middling 4th division outfit create?

If they don't go for it at the start they know they won't stand a chance over 2 games.
I'm sure they will come at us with everything to try and unsettle us and get us on the back foot. Admittedly, that should not be too much, but we should not be complacent.
The whole country will be willing them to turn us over, they will be up for it, make no mistake.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fernando Partridge on January 06, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
Fancy a laugh have a listen to the banthams banter podcast. Though the yorkshire accent very diff to comprehend
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 06, 2013, 05:39:14 PM
And we wont be up for it?

I qgree we should not be complacent and we with have to work very hard and play at a tempo.

But we should also steamroller them. Twice.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 06, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
If we play well, we'll win both legs with little fuss. It's just the 'if' bit that worries me.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 06, 2013, 06:46:35 PM
Shades of Tranmere all over again. We lose, Given has a nightmare but we go through, just, in the second eg.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Balders on January 06, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
1-3 away win with them scoring first
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: myf on January 06, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
I fear a Tranmere situation as well.  Lets not forget they beat Arsenal, and lot of pressure on the young uns again.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 06, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
I fear a Tranmere situation as well.  Lets not forget they beat Arsenal, and lot of pressure on the young uns again.

First of all Tranmere got to the play-offs of what is now the Championship that season, which means they were more than two divisions better than Bradford. Second, Bradford did not beat Arsenal. They drew, and went through on penalties.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 06, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
Arsenal also battered them. Something like 70% possession, 30 shots with half on target and Bradford had about 5 shots total. But as we've seen more than once, Arsenal keep having games where despite domination they just cannot score.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on January 06, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
1-4

Benteke 17
Agbonlahor 31
Weimann 76
Bent 89
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on January 06, 2013, 08:53:12 PM
Confident we will get through over the two legs but think Bradford could come away with a draw in this one; I'll go 2-2 with Bent and Agbonlahor scoring

Would like to see us go with Given, Lowton, Bennett, Baker, Clark, Herd, Delph, N'Zogbia, Weimann, Bent, Benteke
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 06, 2013, 09:57:44 PM
Shades of Tranmere all over again. We lose, Given has a nightmare but we go through, just, in the second eg.

It's more like shades of Chester (1975) which ended 2 - 2 there in the first leg. 

Yes, Bradford will be well up for it but so will we.  The fact that we're unpredictible at the moment will stop our lot being too confident. Weather the early storm, keep our nerve and finish the overall job on the night.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on January 06, 2013, 09:59:24 PM
A nervy 1-1
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 06, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
We'll win 4-1. Bradford really aren't a good side, and Arsenal should have hammered them and across two legs they won't hold out and that'll damage their mindset for the first leg.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 06, 2013, 10:28:06 PM
Fancy a laugh have a listen to the banthams banter podcast. Though the yorkshire accent very diff to comprehend

Sorry,didn't understand a word of that.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on January 06, 2013, 10:39:27 PM
2-1 us. Benteke x2
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Namlod on January 06, 2013, 10:40:16 PM
We need to score first. Let Bradford in and they'll sit back and soak up the pressure. It nearly worked at Arsenal. We can't let them sit back in defence.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on January 06, 2013, 10:46:47 PM
I think they'll win 1-0, give it the big one for two weeks - convinced they're going to Wembley, before getting battered 4-0 at our place.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 06, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
I don't see and "situations" " mishaps " complacency" etc developing here. It the semi final. I expect us to win with something to spare.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: davevillan on January 06, 2013, 11:10:46 PM
We are a prem side and they are a Div 4 side for a reason..we have so far won away at Man City, Swindon and Norwich in this cup this season, and all are far better sides then Bradford..With the right attitude we should put the tie to bed on tuesday and enjoy the 2nd leg....3-0 Villa!!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on January 07, 2013, 12:59:00 AM
Over the two legs I think we'll tonk them in all honesty.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: neo_Villan on January 07, 2013, 03:21:57 AM
I think the fact it is over two legs will put little pressure on our players as they know even if Bradford somehow pull off a flukey 1-0 win they will still be able to see it through at VP. In all honesty, I have absolutely no doubt that the tie will be practically over by the second leg. 2-0 to us me thinks.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JD on January 07, 2013, 07:02:49 AM
Hopefully a 4-1 win, followed by a 5-0 win in the second leg.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 07, 2013, 09:09:19 AM
Over the two legs I think we'll tonk them in all honesty.

1-3 and 4-0. Villa win 7-1 on agg.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 07, 2013, 10:14:17 AM
A relatively comfortable win over 2 legs with one or two hairy moments in the first match!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 07, 2013, 10:21:15 AM
I'm making a rare away trip for this one!

As I see it, it'll be a matter of waethering a heavy early storm and they go at us like men possessed.  Get past that 20 minutes or so and the difference in ability should start to show.  I think we'll create chances, so it's a matter of making sure we take them.

Slightly worried about the central midfield area, but other than that:-

Given
Lowton Clark Baker Bennett
Delph Bannan
Weimann Holman Gabby
Benteke   
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on January 07, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
I'm making a rare away trip for this one!

As I see it, it'll be a matter of waethering a heavy early storm and they go at us like men possessed.  Get past that 20 minutes or so and the difference in ability should start to show.  I think we'll create chances, so it's a matter of making sure we take them.

Slightly worried about the central midfield area, but other than that:-

Given
Lowton Clark Baker Bennett
Delph Bannan
Weimann Holman Gabby
Benteke   

N'Zogbia instead of Holman playing in the hole behind Weimann and Benteke?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 07, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
N'Zogbia instead of Holman playing in the hole behind Weimann and Benteke?

Given our defensive frailties and what I see as a weak central midfield pairing, I think we'll need everybody working hard for those times when they get the crowd going and are putting us under pressure.  Ireland is not the player for that and neither is N'Zogbia, hence by opting for Holman.  N'Zogbia night be the player to bring on for Holman later once the game is stretched and Bradford have (hopefully!) punched themselves out.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on January 07, 2013, 10:43:38 AM
1-3

Bent x2, Delph
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on January 07, 2013, 10:56:58 AM
N'Zogbia instead of Holman playing in the hole behind Weimann and Benteke?

Given our defensive frailties and what I see as a weak central midfield pairing, I think we'll need everybody working hard for those times when they get the crowd going and are putting us under pressure.  Ireland is not the player for that and neither is N'Zogbia, hence by opting for Holman.  N'Zogbia night be the player to bring on for Holman later once the game is stretched and Bradford have (hopefully!) punched themselves out.

I'd rather we attacked them hard with pace and power; Gabby, Benteke and N'Zogbia offer that sort of threat - let's face it, we're playing a 4th Division team!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 07, 2013, 11:03:03 AM
N'Zogbia instead of Holman playing in the hole behind Weimann and Benteke?

Given our defensive frailties and what I see as a weak central midfield pairing, I think we'll need everybody working hard for those times when they get the crowd going and are putting us under pressure.  Ireland is not the player for that and neither is N'Zogbia, hence by opting for Holman.  N'Zogbia night be the player to bring on for Holman later once the game is stretched and Bradford have (hopefully!) punched themselves out.

I'd rather we attacked them hard with pace and power; Gabby, Benteke and N'Zogbia offer that sort of threat - let's face it, we're playing a 4th Division team!

Being dismissive of them is how PL clubs can get embarassed at lower league grounds. 

I might be tempted to go your way if it was a one off game, but given the two leg format I think the time for that is at Villa Park.  We need to be professional.   
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on January 07, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time.
I want Zog to turn it around here. He can offer the sort of spark we often lack. He's been putting the effort in, he could just do with a shot of confidence and to stay fit. He's been a little unlucky this season. The desire has actually been there, far more so than last season. And though he's been largely bish, it's more down to confidence than anything.

I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 07, 2013, 11:33:54 AM
Their best chance of scoring will be set pieces, so if we are tight in that area we'll be fine.   I just can't see us having too many problems over the two legs. 
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 07, 2013, 11:36:52 AM
I don't get this about resting players. Pick the best side and get the job done.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pestria on January 07, 2013, 11:37:57 AM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on January 07, 2013, 11:49:24 AM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

Playing 2 players who A) Played well Saturday and B) Cost in Excess of £30mil against a 4th division team is hardy sacrificing the cup.

I'd start with Bent and N'zog too.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 07, 2013, 11:52:51 AM
What on earth was that outburst all about? Wind your neck in my old son.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 07, 2013, 12:10:30 PM
I would play the strongest team possible- if we get a comfortable win then maybe the time to rest players would be the 2nd leg.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on January 07, 2013, 12:13:09 PM
As long as we don't concede an early goal, we'll be OK, but we need to be tight at set pieces and not let them become get their tails up. As the Arse found out they could be hard to break down and we aren't exactly top scorers so far this season.

Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 07, 2013, 12:13:20 PM
I would play the strongest team possible- if we get a comfortable win then maybe the time to rest players would be the 2nd leg.

Totally agree with this.

I got the impression the likes of Benteke were rested against Ipswich to be fresher for this game and also possibly Southampton at the weekend.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 07, 2013, 12:21:35 PM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

Blimey, slightly unnecessary rant that in my humble opinion.  I don't think anybody is suggesting a Houllier style capitulation, but giving Benteke a game on the bench with Bent up front again wouldn't be a bad idea.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on January 07, 2013, 12:27:42 PM
I was thinking of a formation we could get Bent, Benteke and Weimann in but I can't. Not unless we're going for broke anyway and hopefully that won't be an issue.

So...

                                   Guzan
                  Clark                           Baker
Lowton                         Herd                       Bennett
                  Bannan                      Delph
                                  N'Zogbia
                  Weimann                Benteke

Given, Lichaj, Wililams, Carruthers, Holman, Agbonlahor, Bent

Should be more than enough.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 07, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
It looks a great opportunity to get some match legs into those just returning and we still have a second leg where we can go full tilt if needs be. I don't think we will mind.

I am hopeful that this tie will be put to bed tomorrow night even if we leave a couple out.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pestria on January 07, 2013, 12:54:53 PM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

Blimey, slightly unnecessary rant that in my humble opinion.  I don't think anybody is suggesting a Houllier style capitulation, but giving Benteke a game on the bench with Bent up front again wouldn't be a bad idea.

I simply can't see the logic in dropping the two leading goal scorers in team desperately short on goals.  Despite his goal scoring record, Bent has not been deemed appropriate to the team's needs all season, so why change now?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 07, 2013, 01:19:47 PM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

I suggest a read of the Site Rules followed by a short lie down in a dark room..
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 07, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
I don't get this about resting players. Pick the best side and get the job done.

Exactly.

Get the job done tomorrow night and then think about resting players.

I would go with Bennett, Baker, Clarke and Lowton across the back with Given in goal.

There is such a lack of options in the midfield though. Delph did quite well against Ipswich, especially when he changed the pace and drove forward. I would imagine Bannan will get the nod ahead of Herd.

Then its a case of who do you pick for your front four?

I am tempted to go with Bent, Benteke and Weimann, with N'Zogbia roaming. The later and Weiman can draw wide at points too create a bit of width. I think Charlie has looked good at Norwich and against Ipswich and would cause Bradford a lot of problems. But then he may want Holman and his running to squueze Bradford.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pestria on January 07, 2013, 01:57:26 PM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

I suggest a read of the Site Rules followed by a short lie down in a dark room..

I was already lying in a dark room and have now read the site rules .... and I still can't see what I've done to upset you.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on January 07, 2013, 02:03:09 PM
I don't get this about resting players. Pick the best side and get the job done.

Exactly.

Get the job done tomorrow night and then think about resting players.

I would go with Bennett, Baker, Clarke and Lowton across the back with Given in goal.

There is such a lack of options in the midfield though. Delph did quite well against Ipswich, especially when he changed the pace and drove forward. I would imagine Bannan will get the nod ahead of Herd.

Then its a case of who do you pick for your front four?

I am tempted to go with Bent, Benteke and Weimann, with N'Zogbia roaming. The later and Weiman can draw wide at points too create a bit of width. I think Charlie has looked good at Norwich and against Ipswich and would cause Bradford a lot of problems. But then he may want Holman and his running to squueze Bradford.

Agree with the team above, save I'd play Gabby and give Benteke the night off so he can explode against the Saints on Sat.

                 Given
Lowton Clark Baker Bennett
         Bannan Delph
Weimann N'Zogbia Agbonlahor
                 Bent

Subs Guzan, Stevens, Lichaj, Herd, Holman, Benteke, Carruthers

Ireland can stay at home.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 07, 2013, 02:11:55 PM
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Ireland can stay at home.

 :)  Like
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 07, 2013, 02:12:08 PM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

I suggest a read of the Site Rules followed by a short lie down in a dark room..

I was already lying in a dark room and have now read the site rules .... and I still can't see what I've done to upset you.

You haven't upset me at all!

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Please do not accuse people of being, for example, "a bluenose" or "a manyoo fan" because you don't like or agree with what they are saying.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pestria on January 07, 2013, 02:36:03 PM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

I suggest a read of the Site Rules followed by a short lie down in a dark room..

I was already lying in a dark room and have now read the site rules .... and I still can't see what I've done to upset you.

You haven't upset me at all!

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Please do not accuse people of being, for example, "a bluenose" or "a manyoo fan" because you don't like or agree with what they are saying.

Slightly disingenuous i know  but I didn't accuse him of supporting anyone else. 

I merely suggested he might want to consider following our neighbours as they seem to have a similar philosophy of putting weakened teams out in cup competitions.  ;-)
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 07, 2013, 03:07:36 PM
If Lambert can get the lads up for it from the first minute we'll destroy Bradford. They've been on a poor run since the Arsenal game which is starting to look more and more like a one-off. Team selection has to be first based on players who are up for a fight, as Bradford will give everything they have and try to get in our faces. Midfield is key, win it and we'll beat them. Give them to much space and they'll test our suspect defence.

My only worry is Lambert doesn't seem to understand the tactic of being cautious and no matter what the formation it always ends up very gung-ho. Our midfield is far too weak defensively, not to mention physically, so I'd be tempted to put Herd in there to break things up, allowing the likes of Bannan to do what he does best.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 07, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
Destroy them? We are Aston Villa. You know we could just as easily stuff this up.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 07, 2013, 03:29:33 PM
Parkinson saying  intimadating atmosphere and they wanted aston villa and delighted they got us- bring it on you bantams , the lions are ready for you!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 07, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
Whatever midfield we put out it should be better than anything they can offer so I'm not too concerned about this area.  In any case, Delph had his best game for us against Norwich in the last round and that form will certainly be good enough against a team 3 tiers lower.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 07, 2013, 03:34:04 PM
We need to beware of the bantam menace.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 07, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
win the toss, drop a seamer, play two spinners and bat first.....

seriously, over two legs we should have enough to beat them, strangely I am abit excitedly nervous and really looking forward to going to the game and if we have the same vocal support as we did vs Norwich then it will be a great night.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 07, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
win the toss, drop a seamer, play two spinners and bat first.....

That's disgusting.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 07, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
My only worry is Lambert doesn't seem to understand the tactic of being cautious and no matter what the formation it always ends up very gung-ho.

I know.  Brilliant, isn't it?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 07, 2013, 03:54:00 PM
win the toss, drop a seamer, play two spinners and bat first.....

That's disgusting.

 :)
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 07, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
win the toss, drop a seamer, play two spinners and bat first.....



UTV
The Doc

You are Geoffrey Boycott and I claim my £10!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on January 07, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
We are 4/6 with Bet Fred.Lump on.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on January 07, 2013, 04:16:33 PM
Whatever midfield we put out it should be better than anything they can offer so I'm not too concerned about this area.  In any case, Delph had his best game for us against Norwich in the last round and that form will certainly be good enough against a team 3 tiers lower.

As long as he doesn't get sent off for a rash tackle  ;)
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 07, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Anyone know who the ref is?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on January 07, 2013, 04:19:13 PM
Slaphead.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 07, 2013, 04:27:40 PM
You know when we play the mancs or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' or Chelski etc and we moan that their fans on forums treat us like we are nobodies and we get all upprty about it............................

I would hope we give them the credit they deserve because for all our comments the Arsenal team man for man on the night was stronger than the one we put out - its our mentality that needs to be bang on

Would love to put it to bed first game but think it could well be a frantic affair - if you were their Manager you would say to go at us as our confidence is shot at present

We need to score first and hopefully early to settle our selves
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 07, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
Slaphead.

Webb?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on January 07, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
Slaphead.

Webb?

Yep.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on January 07, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
3-1 Villa. First step to Wembley.

 Please, please, please  (http://youtu.be/DMQbzLrvwlE)
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 07, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
Destroy them? We are Aston Villa. You know we could just as easily stuff this up.

Absolutely. That's why I said we really need to match them in midfield and fight for every ball. Part of the reason they beat Arsenal was down to their collective determination and effort. Valley Parade will be electric tomorrow night and the thought of going a goal down scares me as you just don't know how this team will react. I fancy us more to get a result up there than I do at Villa Park should we need to pull back a couple of goals.

I just hope Lambert lets the players know they're in for a fight without scaring them to death. There'll be no room for passengers tomorrow but stick to what we're good at and we'll punish them.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on January 07, 2013, 05:23:46 PM
I think Bradford's poor form since the last round is down to nothing more than, I suspect, their players mentally switching off from league football.  A bit like our own drop in form when we got to the Final in '94, my guess is that the Bradford players are totally focused on this game.

I watched Mansfield v Liverpool yesterday and I thought Liverpool were incredibly lucky to get away with a win.  Bradford are better than Mansfield and will have twenty thousand behind them roaring them on in their biggest match in years.  This will be incredibly tough - and the first ever semi-final appearance for a lot of our lads, too. The team will have to play with maturity and they will have to be ultra professional.  People expecting us to thrash Bradford are, in my opinion, putting way too much pressure on our team. This season we have  performed best as underdogs - shouting our mouths off about the difference in our league positions etc. and giving it the big un is a classic recipe for egg-on-face.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on January 07, 2013, 05:31:25 PM
I'd say this kind of game is well suited to the side we now are, with lots of players who've made the step up but have played at a similar level to Bradford.  People like Lowton, Westwood, Bowery can all point to the time they were playing at that level and what to expect, and a lot of the youngsters have played for lower league sides effectively as well.  We need to just take the heat out of it and let the quality be the difference.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 07, 2013, 05:31:36 PM
In a one off cup game bradford have a chance of an upset but there is no way a team from the lowest league should beat a premier side over two legs and I can't see it happening .

We are a far better side and I'm sure lambert will have the attitude spot on .
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 07, 2013, 05:34:07 PM
Given our propensity to concede early goals, I am going for Bradford to be winning at HT and us at FT, at 25/1.

That won for me on Saturday, and I can see the same thing happening tomorrow - usual frailty, but against a lower league side we'll eventually have too much for.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 07, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
I understand what you're saying Billy but reading the Bradford forums, they really have been poor recently and their fans are just resigned to enjoying the pay day. The poor form has been put down to losing key players and the manager changing their formation.

Don't get me wrong, they'll make us work for the full 90 minutes. Interesting comment from one of their fans about the Arsenal game and tomorrow:

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Arsenal were pansies and the ground was icy, hard and the temperature dropped to -3, I was more than hopeful before kick off. This is different I don't see us having any chance over 2 legs, not unless it drops to-3 and Benteke is as wanky as Gervinho and Villa have several bottlers, like Arsenal did. I can't see it, they might not be as technically gifted but Lamberts team will have balls to go with superior ability, Arsenal's attitude was wrong, wrong, wrong, I don't think Villa's will be. I am hoping for a close game and the tie still alive for the 2nd leg.

Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 07, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
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"We haven't achieved anything yet - you don't get anything for a semi-final."

One sentence from an hour's worth of media interviews said everything you need to know about Paul Lambert's feelings on Villa's progress in the Capital One Cup.

When Villa were paired with Bradford City - the lowest ranked side left in the competition - there was a strong consensus among the claret and blue faithful that the semi-final draw had reflected favourably on their side.

It is not a theory, though, that Lambert is keen to subscribe to.

The Villa boss has a fair idea of what the mood will be like in the Bradford dressing room tomorrow night.

In the 2006-07 season, Lambert's Wycombe Wanderers became the first fourth tier side in 30 years to reach the semi-finals of the League Cup.

Like Bradford, they took two Barclays Premier League scalps en route to a glamour last-four tie against Chelsea.

Just as his Wycombe players were "bursting" with adrenaline and enthusiasm before facing their illustrious opponents, Lambert expects similar scenario for Phil Parkinson's charges.

"I know what it is like," said the Villa manager.

"The Bradford lads will give everything and more than probably normal because the adrenaline will be high.

"But we haven't done anything yet. It is a semi-final and it is another stage to try and get through.

"You don't get anything for a semi-final. You need to get through and winning it is the main thing.

"I don't want to overplay it thinking we've done it, we've arrived. We've got another two games to get through.

"I was at Wycombe when they played Chelsea and drew 1-1 and got turned over 4-0 at Stamford Bridge.

"On any given night anything can happen.

"But if we do things right and do what we have been doing then hopefully we get through."

And so the manager's message is plain and simple: "Underestimate Bradford at your peril."

This extraordinary cup run has already seen Villa negotiate the champions of England, last season's League Two winners, the current League One leaders and a top-flight side who were unbeaten in 10 matches.

Lambert insists seeing off Bradford over two legs to reach Wembley would be no less of an achievement.

"Going to Manchester City, nobody really gave us a chance," said Lambert.

"Even Tranmere for instance there was an expectancy level so that was tough.

"So was Swindon. You get through them all and every one is a hurdle.

"This one won't be anything different. We have just beaten what is in front of us.

"Bradford have earned the right - they have beaten Wigan and Arsenal - to get this far.

"Underestimate them at your peril, I think."

Lambert reckons this exciting cup run has already had a positive impact on the club - and hopes it will continue to do so.

"It does have a positive impact," he added.

"Any competitions we are in we want to try to stay in that and win it.

"Otherwise there is no point playing in it. If you are in something go and try to win it.

"If you can do that it would be great for everybody at the football club."
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 07, 2013, 07:16:44 PM
Anyone know who the ref is?
Wait till the game kicks off and it will be the bloke in yellow top!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fredm on January 07, 2013, 07:26:03 PM
Whatever midfield we put out it should be better than anything they can offer so I'm not too concerned about this area.  In any case, Delph had his best game for us against Norwich in the last round and that form will certainly be good enough against a team 3 tiers lower.

As long as he doesn't get sent off for a rash tackle  ;)

Am a bit worried that he might well be too up for it - he started at Bradford before going to Leeds so will be well fired up.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on January 07, 2013, 08:50:09 PM
Anyone know who the ref is?
Wait till the game kicks off and it will be the bloke in yellow top!
Doubt he will wear yellow as that would clash with Bradford kit. Actually what kit will we where ? Both home & away kind of clash
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on January 07, 2013, 09:12:58 PM
Been lurking around their forums, here are some thoughts from their side:

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Was hopeful before Xmas, but not now. Lucky if we only get beat by a couple of goals.

We do need to play 442 though.

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To be honest I hope we don't line up that way. As much as I think we need to win the first leg, I think if we line up that attacking they will destroy us. I know their league form hasn't been great (well terrible really) but the one thing they do have is some serious fire power up front. Benteke is a beast, Wieman is in good goalscoring form, Bent is always likely to pop up with a goal and Agbonglhor came is coming back to fitness. I reckon we can score against them, their defence/midfield isn't great but their options up front are very good and certainly good enough to severely punish us if we go too open.

I think McHugh and Meredith are needed and I think they will play but reckon Hines won't start and probably Atkinson will start instead. I was worried about this tie before our form dipped and before they picked up the last couple of decent results, so now I'm pretty worried. Just don't want to be out of the tie after the first leg. We need to be at our very best and try and nick a 1-0 win, give us something to defend at Villa Park

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Dont know if its only me that sees it this way but here goes.

This is one of the biggest games in our clubs history. Our current set of players will never have experienced a game of this importance and with an incentive as huge as whats on offer. Our fans will not have experienced many nights like this, and possibly wont do again. The Sky cameras are in attendance again, which means the eyes of the world are watching. Id be guessing the majority of viewers will be willing us on. The pressure is completely off us. We are in a major semi final, we shouldnt be there in the first place, but we are. Everything is there to continue the magical league cup run. I want to go to Wembley, I REALLY want to go to Wembley. Im sure the players do too. Adrenaline will get the players through the games, and with a little bit of luck, we could see one of the most almighty shocks of all time. The stage is set, and the spotlight is on us.

Setting my self up for a huge fall, but the occasion is so big, I cant help but see it that way. 1-1 tomorrow, then at Villa Park, a solid defensive display and do them on penalties. 
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 07, 2013, 09:19:04 PM
They might well score but I'd be astounded if they keep a clean sheet too.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 07, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
How much of a storm can a middling 4th division outfit create?

Quite a bit against Arsenal

While I'd prefer to win and we should, a 1-1 would not be a disaster.

Two legged semi final will always massively favour a premier league team over a lower league one and I expect no difference here tbh.

I know it's a different round but we comfortably turned over Tranmere 3-0 at VP and they've having an unbelievable season in league one. We also won at Swindon who again are doing well in league one.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 07, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
Anyone know who the ref is?
Wait till the game kicks off and it will be the bloke in yellow top!
Doubt he will wear yellow as that would clash with Bradford kit. Actually what kit will we where ? Both home & away kind of clash

I mentioned this after the draw was made. I thought wearing last season's away kit would be more sensible.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: davevillan on January 07, 2013, 11:59:59 PM
Been lurking around their forums, here are some thoughts from their side:

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Was hopeful before Xmas, but not now. Lucky if we only get beat by a couple of goals.

We do need to play 442 though.

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To be honest I hope we don't line up that way. As much as I think we need to win the first leg, I think if we line up that attacking they will destroy us. I know their league form hasn't been great (well terrible really) but the one thing they do have is some serious fire power up front. Benteke is a beast, Wieman is in good goalscoring form, Bent is always likely to pop up with a goal and Agbonglhor came is coming back to fitness. I reckon we can score against them, their defence/midfield isn't great but their options up front are very good and certainly good enough to severely punish us if we go too open.

I think McHugh and Meredith are needed and I think they will play but reckon Hines won't start and probably Atkinson will start instead. I was worried about this tie before our form dipped and before they picked up the last couple of decent results, so now I'm pretty worried. Just don't want to be out of the tie after the first leg. We need to be at our very best and try and nick a 1-0 win, give us something to defend at Villa Park

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Dont know if its only me that sees it this way but here goes.

This is one of the biggest games in our clubs history. Our current set of players will never have experienced a game of this importance and with an incentive as huge as whats on offer. Our fans will not have experienced many nights like this, and possibly wont do again. The Sky cameras are in attendance again, which means the eyes of the world are watching. Id be guessing the majority of viewers will be willing us on. The pressure is completely off us. We are in a major semi final, we shouldnt be there in the first place, but we are. Everything is there to continue the magical league cup run. I want to go to Wembley, I REALLY want to go to Wembley. Im sure the players do too. Adrenaline will get the players through the games, and with a little bit of luck, we could see one of the most almighty shocks of all time. The stage is set, and the spotlight is on us.

Setting my self up for a huge fall, but the occasion is so big, I cant help but see it that way. 1-1 tomorrow, then at Villa Park, a solid defensive display and do them on penalties. 
Where this last post is wrong, is if we draw 1-1 up there and 0-0 aet at Villa we go through on away goals..The chances of them holding us to identical scores in both legs is remote at best.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on January 08, 2013, 06:00:07 AM
Was out walking today in Cebu in The Philippines. Walked past a Church called Bradford. I hope that's not a sign they've got God on their side!
:O
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheTimVilla on January 08, 2013, 06:42:20 AM
I would go:

Guzan

Lowton Clark Baker Bennett

Weimann Delph Herd Gabby

Bent Benteke


Lambert will go 5-4-1 or 4-5-1


Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 08, 2013, 08:04:45 AM
Let's go for it.

Guzan
Lowton Clark Baker Bennett
Weimann Herd Bannan NZogbia
Benteke Bent
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on January 08, 2013, 08:25:10 AM
In London today, just hope I can get back to mids in time for tv coverage. It's going to be a long day today, already thinking about the game.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 08, 2013, 08:38:40 AM
Given - Lowton Clark baker Bennett - herd delph - weimann Holman gabby - Benteke

Or

Holman herd delph - Ireland - bent Benteke

Either way, I think the aim has to be to get a grip of midfield and ensure we fight like Trojans at the back. If we do those things, and have at least 3 quality attacking players on the pitch, we should be fine
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 08, 2013, 08:40:16 AM
I woke up this morning, immediately thought of the game and am of the view that we will pulverise them.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on January 08, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
Anyone know who the ref is?
Wait till the game kicks off and it will be the bloke in yellow top!
Doubt he will wear yellow as that would clash with Bradford kit. Actually what kit will we where ? Both home & away kind of clash

I mentioned this after the draw was made. I thought wearing last season's away kit would be more sensible.
Really think we should have launched a special 3rd kit for tonight as we did in the 90's under BFR for the QF at Anfield . Yellow Villa/Brazil kit
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fredm on January 08, 2013, 09:30:17 AM
Phil Parkinson has been on local radio and said that any team, at whatever level, that has conceded the number of goals that we have must be short on confidence and brittle in defence so they have to attack us tonight.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 08, 2013, 09:32:34 AM
Phil Parkinson has been on local radio and said that any team, at whatever level, that has conceded the number of goals that we have must be short on confidence and brittle in defence so they have to attack us tonight.

We looked as bit more solid on Saturday with Baker back in there. It'll be a big bonus having him back. Let hope he lasts the whole 90 minutes again though.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on January 08, 2013, 09:40:54 AM
Phil Parkinson has been on local radio and said that any team, at whatever level, that has conceded the number of goals that we have must be short on confidence and brittle in defence so they have to attack us tonight.

Somewhat agree but I think we have enough to outscore them if thats the case
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2013, 09:44:47 AM
I hope they do attack us, because the only way they somehow survived a battering against Arsenal was complete backs to the wall stuff. If they attack us they'll get slaughtered.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on January 08, 2013, 09:47:04 AM
If they get overly adventurous (and really, their only chance is to win tonight) we can chew them up on the counter.
But I think we'll control it to a large degree. They'll have sporadic spells but we'll have most of the ball. And too bloody right too.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on January 08, 2013, 09:50:01 AM
Phil Parkinson has been on local radio and said that any team, at whatever level, that has conceded the number of goals that we have must be short on confidence and brittle in defence so they have to attack us tonight.

Can't dissagree with the guy. We very shaky and lacking confidence, we will have to hit the ground running and not be chasing the game early on. Bradford will really fancy getting something from this, and they would be correct. Worried about this one.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 08, 2013, 09:52:29 AM
The BBC are very sloppy...

' This is Villa's 14th participation in the semi-finals. They have never progressed to the final after failing to win the first leg of a semi-final (D2, L3).'

The next bullet point...

' This is the second time they have faced a fourth-tier club in the League Cup semi-finals: in 1975 they drew 2-2 away to Chester in the first leg and won 3-2 at Villa Park in the second leg.'

What about the Tranmere first leg too?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
In fairness Bradford have lost 2 of their last 3 league games and won only 2 of their last 6. They're hardly going to be brimming with confidence and across 180 minutes we should hammer them.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on January 08, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
I think we will hit them on the break as they try to attack us.

1-4 to the Villa.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 08, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
The BBC are very sloppy...

' This is Villa's 14th participation in the semi-finals. They have never progressed to the final after failing to win the first leg of a semi-final (D2, L3).'

The next bullet point...

' This is the second time they have faced a fourth-tier club in the League Cup semi-finals: in 1975 they drew 2-2 away to Chester in the first leg and won 3-2 at Villa Park in the second leg.'

What about the Tranmere first leg too?

We got to the final after losing at tranmere , tranmere weren't fourth tier when we played them and were quite a bit bettervthan bradfords level, with internationals like o brien and Aldridge in their ranks.

I don't expect bradford to give us the fright that tranmere did .
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 08, 2013, 10:39:17 AM
I throw in 1996 as well.  We drew 2-2 away at Arsenal and then a 0-0 and Villa Patk took us through on away goals.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 08, 2013, 10:44:55 AM
I think a draw, They are going to be pumped and have nothing to lose, they've knocked out Arsenal and Wigan
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 08, 2013, 10:46:07 AM
By David Anderson | 07/01/13 

Bradford's Carl McHugh aims to take another step tonight on a storybook journey from Swindon Supermarine to Wembley Cup final.

The teenage Irish defender was farmed out to non-league Wiltshire minnows Supermarine two seasons ago when he was at Reading and also had a loan spell at home with Dundalk.

McHugh joined Bradford last summer after being released by the Royals and has starred in the Bantams’ fabulous run to the Capital One Cup semis – seeing off Wigan’s Mauro Boselli and Arsenal’s Gervinho.

McHugh, 19, still cannot believe how far he has come in the last two years as he prepares to go head to head with Christian Benteke at Valley Parade in this evening’s semi-final first leg.

“I had a tough time after joining Reading as a kid, getting injured and then released,” said the Republic of Ireland Under-19 centre-half.

“While I was still at the ­Madejski, they sent me out to Swindon Supermarine on a second-year scholar loan after we got knocked out of the Youth Cup.

“It was certainly something a bit different, that’s for sure, but I played seven games for them and it was a good experience.

“I learned a lot about how to handle myself because it is worlds apart from the professional game.”

McHugh refuses to be daunted by the prospect of marking Benteke, who has banged in nine goals for Villa this term.

“He’s been fantastic in the Premier League and a different proposition to some of the Arsenal strikers, but we’ll just have to try and deal with him the best we can,” said the Donegal-born stopper.

“There’s also Bent, Weimann, ­Agbonlahor, they’ve got loads of top players, so it doesn’t matter who you’re up against – it’s going to be a massive test.”

 

Despite beating Arsenal and winning at Wigan, McHugh feels Villa will be Bradford’s toughest test yet because the tie is a double-header.

He said: “It’s another huge ask for us and, with the tie being over two legs, I think it’s going to be even harder to win than a one-off game.

“Villa are a talented team with some really great players, so we are under no illusions about what we are up against.

“But it’s going to be another fantastic night at Valley Parade.

“The ground will be packed again and the atmosphere will be ­electric.

“That inspired us against Arsenal, and I’m sure it will do again.”

Both teams were in the Premier League when they last met in February 2001 and Bantams boss Phil Parkinson claims the League Two side’s cup run has made the fans believe they can bring back the good times.

Parkinson said: “Bradford is a big club, a sleeping giant and we’re trying to reawaken it. The win against Arsenal reminded everyone that Bradford is up and running, and starting to get going again.

“Another great performance would be brilliant for the city again.

“We’ve worked really hard to get to this stage. It will be tough – and it’s whether we can get to the second leg in two weeks and still be in the tie.”

Shay of hope: Given wants to retain his place for Cup final

 

Shay Given claims Aston Villa’s cup success has kept him at the club and believes he will retain his place if they reach Wembley, writes James Nursey.

Keeper Given was dropped by new Villa boss Paul Lambert two games into his reign last August in favour of American Brad Guzan.

But the former Republic of Ireland No.1 has been handed a lifeline in Villa’s cup ties and his displays in the Capital One Cup and FA Cup have earned rave reviews from Lambert.

Given starred again on Saturday against Ipswich to help Villa into the fourth round where they now face a tricky trip to Millwall.

The 36-year-old is set to keep his place this evening in Villa’s semi-final, first leg tie at League Two Bradford and says it has stopped him from quitting the game.

He said: “Had we been knocked out of the League Cup early and I not played in the FA Cup, it would be difficult to keep going. I might not have been so happy then. Sometimes you sulk about it and have bad days like all people do.

“He has gone with Brad this season and it is has been difficult for me because, when you work hard all week and come matchday you are not playing, it’s soul destroying.

“These games have been good for me, the League Cup and looking forward to the FA Cup, because I knew earlier in the week that I’d be playing.

“It gives me something to work towards and to work hard in training. It’s a big carrot dangling for me to keep pushing Brad to get back into the team.

“We are in the next round of the FA Cup, plus two semi-final legs, so hopefully there are quite a few games coming up and hopefully I’ll play my part.”

And if Villa reach the Capital One Cup Final at Wembley, Given believes he will keep his place.

He added: “I can’t stand here and talk about it all night and say I’m quite happy to sit on the bench because I’m not.

“But the manager has been really good and supportive. There are no complaints on that front.”
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 08, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
I think a draw, They are going to be pumped and have nothing to lose, they've knocked out Arsenal and Wigan

and we have knocked out Man City and Norwich City....
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on January 08, 2013, 10:56:26 AM
Looking forward to watching it tonight with 5 other Villa and a token Nose who are here on holiday.
Nervey start for us i think but when we have settled i think we will be fine. Them beating Arsenal should make us think though. UTV.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 08, 2013, 12:31:12 PM
Players have just arrived in bradford  at hotel - great night ahead!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 08, 2013, 12:38:02 PM
I think a draw, They are going to be pumped and have nothing to lose, they've knocked out Arsenal and Wigan

and we have knocked out Man City and Norwich City....

And both of them away - lets not forget that we have hardly had a walk through in the cup this year
WE are here by right and hard work
Dont fuck it up now villa
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on January 08, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
Bit of a cliche but first goal will be so important. An early Villa goal and it could just kill the crowd and any evaporate any "let's get right at them" thoughts they had.

We ought to be doing a professional 0-2 win tonight (but then this is Villa!).
Come on you Villa boys.....

 
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 08, 2013, 12:49:02 PM
I honestly think we'll concede early.

We just tend to have a spell at the start of every match when the defence goes comedically to pieces, as if they've started the match whilst still struggling to put their boots on.

We'll have too much for them, ultimately, though, and will win 3-1 I reckon.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2013, 12:51:43 PM
I think we'll win quite comfortably. Bradford know their previous tactic of stoically holding out probably won't work out across two legs, so they'll attack. They're also not in great form either. Finally we're 3 divisions above them and I think we'll be well up for this.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 08, 2013, 12:55:10 PM
I don't think we'll concede.

I think they will go mental in the first ten minutes and chuck the kitchen sink at us, whereby we will go up the other end a drop one in. They'll go mental again, before we do the same just before half time.

Their heads drop as more goals go in second half.

Tie over.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 08, 2013, 01:02:33 PM
Valley parade is also the setting of the fastest ever league hat trick when our very own Gary shaw scored a hat trick in 4 mins 32 sec for Shrewsbury town there.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 08, 2013, 01:21:32 PM
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/10144971.Former_Bradford_City_great_Wetherall__Win_over_Aston_Villa_would_eclipse_our_Liverpool_triumph/

They are "up for the cup" around these parts!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on January 08, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Keep it simple and tight.

UTV.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DerHammer on January 08, 2013, 02:06:07 PM
Typical Villa we will make them look good in the first half, and we'll sucker punch them straight after the break & hold out for 1-0 with them throwing everything at us for teh last 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 08, 2013, 02:33:31 PM
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Paul Lambert is backing Andreas Weimann to be Villa's Capital One Cup hero again - after admitting the Austrian's role this term has been undervalued.

Weimann was Villa's match-winner in the quarter-final victory over Norwich and will be hoping for a repeat in tonight's last four clash at Bradford.

The 21-year-old took his goal tally for the season to seven with a crucial winner against Ipswich in the FA Cup at the weekend.

Lambert admits Weimann's performances have slipped under the radar at times because of striker partner Christian Benteke's explosion on to the top-flight scene.

"He has scored some very important goals and he's playing really well," said the Villa boss.

"He's only young, only 21, and what you get from him is he's really confident at the minute and has great enthusiasm for the game.

"Because of the performances of Christian, he's tended to get a bit overlooked.

"But I know the value he's got and the value of what he's done for the team."

Lambert says Weimann is always prepared to play through the pain barrier for his team.

"Even if he's not been fully fit, he's been willing to stand up and say he's willing to play, which is a great thing," he added.

"I can't speak highly enough of him as a guy and as a footballer."
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 08, 2013, 03:00:55 PM
"He's only young, only 21"....


Getting a little boring.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2013, 03:10:28 PM
I'm not sure he's been underrated by Villa fans.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on January 08, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
"He's only young, only 21"....


Getting a little boring.
Especially when he turns 22 soon 8)
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on January 08, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
I'm not sure he's been underrated by Villa fans.

Certainly not but the majority on here, superb player who has stepped up brilliantly this year.  He's the 2nd half of a strike force that I'd think will be worth £50m by this time next year.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2013, 03:36:26 PM
Just checked into the hotel. For any of you setting out late its raining here.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on January 08, 2013, 03:41:44 PM
It's an ideal game to rest players and give the likes of N'Zog and Bent much needed fitness and game time ..... I'd rest Benteke and Weimann.
I'd go for CNZ and Gabby either side of Bent for this. That's more than enough ability to twonk Bradford, with all due respect to them.

You've got to f**king joking about resting players for the most important game of the season so far.  Are you one of these mumpties who sacrifices cups?

 ... why not just go and support the baggies - I bet they're shitting themselves at having to play another game and possibly losing a place in the table as a result.

I suggest a read of the Site Rules followed by a short lie down in a dark room..
;D
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on January 08, 2013, 03:50:15 PM
Just been channel hopping on the TV and caught a glimpse on the parliament channel of my local mp Gissela Stuart  wearing a rather natty claret and blue shawl. Fair play madam, I'll vote for you next time round.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on January 08, 2013, 03:51:44 PM
Anyone know what channel the game's on tonight?
Sky? ITV?
... Teletext?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DerHammer on January 08, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
Sky only
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on January 08, 2013, 03:57:31 PM
OK thanks, a toss up between Pub and Teletext then!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on January 08, 2013, 04:04:11 PM
Just checked into the hotel. For any of you setting out late its raining here.

What a surprise! Good old Bradford.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on January 08, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
OK thanks, a toss up between Pub and Teletext then!

Or the OS with Jack Woodward.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on January 08, 2013, 04:07:51 PM
We got any idea of the line up yet? Wanna drop a couple of quid on it, but want to know whose playing before I do.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on January 08, 2013, 04:08:35 PM
Just checked into the hotel. For any of you setting out late its raining here.

What a surprise! Good old Bradford.
It's positively boiling down here in Brum...
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on January 08, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
OK thanks, a toss up between Pub and Teletext then!

Or the OS with Jack Woodward.
Not sure my heart could take it...
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2013, 04:12:34 PM
The Villa team are in the hotel I am staying in.  The Marriott  Hollins Hall. Seen few of the boys pacing around the lobby and in spa suite. The Coach ( not Culverhouse) is ready in the car park.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2013, 04:13:23 PM
Just checked into the hotel. For any of you setting out late its raining here.

What a surprise! Good old Bradford.
It's positively boiling down here in Brum...
I am so jealous ...
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 08, 2013, 04:15:53 PM
Just checked into the hotel. For any of you setting out late its raining here.

Bradford has some fabulous hotels. I find the view is always better if you close the curtains
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 08, 2013, 04:24:50 PM
I'm so used to being let down by villa that I'm semi-braced for some form of absolute humiliation! I worry that for our kids this is the biggest game of their career and they'll freeze, especially at the back. And to be fair they have a bit of recent form for that!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on January 08, 2013, 04:27:11 PM
The Villa team are in the hotel I am staying in.  The Marriott  Hollins Hall. Seen few of the boys pacing around the lobby and in spa suite. The Coach ( not Culverhouse) is ready in the car park.

Are you going to try and blag your way onto the team coach?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on January 08, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
I'm so used to being let down by villa that I'm semi-braced for some form of absolute humiliation! I worry that for our kids this is the biggest game of their career and they'll freeze, especially at the back. And to be fair they have a bit of recent form for that!
Don't
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2013, 04:34:33 PM
The Villa team are in the hotel I am staying in.  The Marriott  Hollins Hall. Seen few of the boys pacing around the lobby and in spa suite. The Coach ( not Culverhouse) is ready in the car park.

Are you going to try and blag your way onto the team coach?
No chance. Left my kit at home. Anyway I have my very own nice vehicle to transport me to to the ground ...well a car park somewhere close.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on January 08, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
The Villa team are in the hotel I am staying in.  The Marriott  Hollins Hall. Seen few of the boys pacing around the lobby and in spa suite. The Coach ( not Culverhouse) is ready in the car park.

Are you going to try and blag your way onto the team coach?
No chance. Left my kit at home. Anyway I have my very own nice vehicle to transport me to to the ground ...well a car park somewhere close.
Go for it ya Chicken.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Doorbell on January 08, 2013, 04:41:56 PM
The Villa team are in the hotel I am staying in.  The Marriott  Hollins Hall. Seen few of the boys pacing around the lobby and in spa suite. The Coach ( not Culverhouse) is ready in the car park.

Are you going to try and blag your way onto the team coach?
No chance. Left my kit at home. Anyway I have my very own nice vehicle to transport me to to the ground ...well a car park somewhere close.

Not only should you blag your way on, I'd expect a good stern, rousing team talk to be given on the way to the ground...do it with confidence and conviction, no one will have a clue....
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on January 08, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
Well, the ground is 15 miles from home, for me.
Problem is: I'm 900 miles away in France ...
... bad planning.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2013, 04:52:56 PM
Looking out they are loading the kit now ...based on your encouragement I am going to slip on and sit on the back seat and wait for team to board. Been told they will leave at 5.30.
Just rehearsing my speech now based on 1970 semi final second leg performance. I have pictures of Andy Lochhead and Pat McMohan to show them. Not going to mention anything about first leg at Tranmere or Bolton.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Doorbell on January 08, 2013, 05:04:51 PM
Looking out they are loading the kit now ...based on your encouragement I am going to slip on and sit on the back seat and wait for team to board. Been told they will leave at 5.30.
Just rehearsing my speech now based on 1970 semi final second leg performance. I have pictures of Andy Lochhead and Pat McMohan to show them. Not going to mention anything about first leg at Tranmere or Bolton.

Outstanding  ;D
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 08, 2013, 05:10:57 PM
I can see the ground beaming light from my hotel wndow, a lovely sight.  It must be a good 15min walk.  So I'm off now for a bite to eat and to find a pub to guide my posse to.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 08, 2013, 05:21:00 PM
We're on our way to deflate the bantams.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on January 08, 2013, 05:21:54 PM
Our convoy of 5 coaches stopped at a club which opened especially for us in Batley.  It was rather like an away pub.  Jon and I walked a mile or so down the and found a lovely pub and sitting chatting to the locals.  Bliss.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on January 08, 2013, 05:22:57 PM
I can see the ground beaming light from my hotel wndow, a lovely sight.  It must be a good 15min walk.  So I'm off now for a bite to eat and to find a pub to guide my posse to.
Fish and chips and a can of Stella ? ;D
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2013, 05:45:04 PM
I am getting hot an bothered hiding in the back seat and they are still fanning about. Some people have boarded , seen a chap wit initials PR on his top fairly close to me, and there is no sign of players however Ireland is on the bus!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on January 08, 2013, 05:49:51 PM
In the Thistle Hotel at Marble Arch at a conference and have refused all invites for dinner so that I can hopefully find a pub nearby showing the game
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 08, 2013, 05:51:27 PM
I'm starting to feel nervous now. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on January 08, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
The Villa team are in the hotel I am staying in.  The Marriott  Hollins Hall. Seen few of the boys pacing around the lobby and in spa suite. The Coach ( not Culverhouse) is ready in the car park.

Are you going to try and blag your way onto the team coach?
No chance. Left my kit at home. Anyway I have my very own nice vehicle to transport me to to the ground ...well a car park somewhere close.

Not only should you blag your way on, I'd expect a good stern, rousing team talk to be given on the way to the ground...do it with confidence and conviction, no one will have a clue....
And in a strong Glaswegian accent...
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2013, 06:01:08 PM
I can mumble with the best of them!
Anyway I can confirm that the team coach has left the hotel. I also need to eave to find something to eat first. Can't do that around the ground as its all bloody Indian/Pakistani/Bengali food!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on January 08, 2013, 06:02:22 PM
I'm starting to feel nervous now. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

I've been quite cocky bordering on arrogant up until an hour ago now im shitting bricks!
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on January 08, 2013, 06:02:24 PM
Actually fancy us to score first tonight.

Bradford know they need a good start, but with that brings pressure. 

Can see us going 1-0 up - but still go all out to make a hames of the thing.  Bradford slowly work their way back into it, equalize and then go 2-1 ahead.   

2-2 on the night, 0-0 or 1-0 back at our place.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 08, 2013, 06:10:12 PM
Actually fancy us to score first tonight.

Bradford know they need a good start, but with that brings pressure. 

Can see us going 1-0 up - but still go all out to make a hames of the thing.  Bradford slowly work their way back into it, equalize and then go 2-1 ahead.   

2-2 on the night, 0-0 or 1-0 back at our place.

I don't think my nerves could take it being that close. Can't we just win 5-0? ... Please?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 08, 2013, 06:21:04 PM
Nil nil. I'll take it.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stuart r on January 08, 2013, 06:29:35 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on January 08, 2013, 06:30:28 PM
What you all worrying about a low key 0-2 win.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 08, 2013, 06:35:49 PM
The BBC are very sloppy...

' This is Villa's 14th participation in the semi-finals. They have never progressed to the final after failing to win the first leg of a semi-final (D2, L3).'

The next bullet point...

' This is the second time they have faced a fourth-tier club in the League Cup semi-finals: in 1975 they drew 2-2 away to Chester in the first leg and won 3-2 at Villa Park in the second leg.'

What about the Tranmere first leg too?

Man Utd, first leg 1-1. Chester, 2-2 (as you said Bren). Tranmere 1-3. Arsenal 2-2. Won 'em all.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 08, 2013, 06:41:11 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"

Is there a more repulsive man in this world than George Galloway? I thought he was a fake Celtic fan anyway.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 08, 2013, 06:42:45 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"

Is there a more repulsive man in this world than George Galloway? I thought he was a fake Celtic fan anyway.

Wasnt he a bradford mp at some point?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on January 08, 2013, 06:43:07 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"
You actually follow George Galloway - How kin sad
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: neo_Villan on January 08, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
A lot of nervousness on here. Usually I am the same and will be playing the worst case scenarios through my head but since the draw was made, I have just had no doubts whatsover that we will brush Bradford aside with some ease.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 08, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
3-1 win to us.  I've bunged £20 on it as well.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 08, 2013, 06:46:36 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"

Is there a more repulsive man in this world than George Galloway? I thought he was a fake Celtic fan anyway.

Wasnt he a bradford mp at some point?

He is currently.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 08, 2013, 06:49:04 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"

Is there a more repulsive man in this world than George Galloway? I thought he was a fake Celtic fan anyway.

Wasnt he a bradford mp at some point?

He's currently a Bradford MP. The dirty rape apologist.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 08, 2013, 06:49:37 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"

Is there a more repulsive man in this world than George Galloway? I thought he was a fake Celtic fan anyway.

Wasnt he a bradford mp at some point?

He is currently.

That explains it then, must be time for team news now.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on January 08, 2013, 06:50:12 PM
3-1 Win for the Villa.

At work so can't watch the game  :(
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 08, 2013, 06:50:39 PM
He's a moron.
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 08, 2013, 06:52:28 PM
Gabby, CNZ, Weimann and Benteke all in.

Where's Bent?
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stuart r on January 08, 2013, 06:53:10 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"
You actually follow George Galloway - How kin sad

How do you know I follow George Galloway? Maybe I just found out about it from a retweet or something. Perhaps you shouldn't jump to conclusions.... erm, but yes I do follow George Galloway :)
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on January 08, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
George Galloway has just tweeted "Bradford City take on Villa in League Cup semi shortly. Come on ye Bantams. Vanquish the Villans. Send them back to Brum with sore bum!"
You actually follow George Galloway - How kin sad

How do you know I follow George Galloway? Maybe I just found out about it from a retweet or something. Perhaps you shouldn't jump to conclusions.... erm, but yes I do follow George Galloway :)
The clue was "just tweeted" on the basis that you are a Villa fan I forgive you this time UTV :D
Title: Re: Bradford City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on January 08, 2013, 06:57:35 PM
Gabby, CNZ, Weimann and Benteke all in.

Where's Bent?
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