Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on December 24, 2012, 09:32:09 AM
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www.thebirminghampress.com/2012/12/24/were-boring-anymore/
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Agreed on everything in that article. Just hope the funds are available in January to strengthen Dave. Surely after yesterday they will be ?
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I hope you are right about meeting Swansea at Wembley as I'm worried about the effect this hammering could have on is if we meet chelski at Wembley again.
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The article pretty much captures why I'm not in the depths of depression after yesterday's result.
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Agree with the article. I'm not as bothered as I was last time we got a pasting at Stamford Bridge and the reason for this is that we are very much a work in progress. When we got battered 7-1 that was MON's best team and expectation was still high.
Let's get back on track against Spurs (spit) on Wednesday.
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It is a measure of the hurt and humiliation produced by that result, that Woodhall's piece is rather incoherent, as he grasps at various straws of consolation, finds each one inadequate and moves on to try another, which proves equally insubstantial.
Obviously it is Dave's duty to offer words of consolation to the fans but he proves that sometimes, it just ain't possible.
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I hope you are right about meeting Swansea at Wembley as I'm worried about the effect this hammering could have on is if we meet chelski at Wembley again.
The least of our worries I assure you.
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How do you forget a record defeat?
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How do you forget a record defeat?
I recommend crack.
And if you can't find a willing woman, then drink. A lot.
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The best way to get over this is to win the next 8 games.
Then we could return the boxes of "After Eights" our blue nosed "friends" are buying us.
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How do you forget a record defeat?
Superb!
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It is a measure of the hurt and humiliation produced by that result, that Woodhall's piece is rather incoherent, as he grasps at various straws of consolation, finds each one inadequate and moves on to try another, which proves equally insubstantial.
Obviously it is Dave's duty to offer words of consolation to the fans but he proves that sometimes, it just ain't possible.
Nice to see you back after your break. I'm sorry that the quality of my writing isn't to your satisfaction; perhaps you should return to where you were last week.
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It is a measure of the hurt and humiliation produced by that result, that Woodhall's piece is rather incoherent, as he grasps at various straws of consolation, finds each one inadequate and moves on to try another, which proves equally insubstantial.
Obviously it is Dave's duty to offer words of consolation to the fans but he proves that sometimes, it just ain't possible.
Nice to see you back after your break. I'm sorry that the quality of my writing isn't to your satisfaction; perhaps you should return to where you were last week.
It seemed a bit perfunctory bearing in mind you are a published author who future generations might depend on to encapsulate the meaning and historical implications of such a result.
But if you think it represents your best work, please accept my apologies for thinking you capable of something better.
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Come now droid, you are supposed to swallow mince pies not dictionaries my friend!
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Good article Dave.
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It is a measure of the hurt and humiliation produced by that result, that Woodhall's piece is rather incoherent, as he grasps at various straws of consolation, finds each one inadequate and moves on to try another, which proves equally insubstantial.
Obviously it is Dave's duty to offer words of consolation to the fans but he proves that sometimes, it just ain't possible.
Nice to see you back after your break. I'm sorry that the quality of my writing isn't to your satisfaction; perhaps you should return to where you were last week.
It seemed a bit perfunctory bearing in mind you are a published author who future generations might depend on to encapsulate the meaning and historical implications of such a result.
But if you think it represents your best work, please accept my apologies for thinking you capable of something better.
Sometimes you have to wonder what will come out when the wood creaks. No matter how educated you are trying to come across it doesn't change the fact that you have emerged with the intent on wallowing in our loss. Dave has tried to offer a balanced assessment as much as is possible a day after a record defeat yet there will always be those that will concentrate as hard as possible on staying negative. Moving on is the best tonic and a game so soon will be the perfect antidote. I don't see any need to pile on because there are plenty of others doing that for us.
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It is a measure of the hurt and humiliation produced by that result, that Woodhall's piece is rather incoherent, as he grasps at various straws of consolation, finds each one inadequate and moves on to try another, which proves equally insubstantial.
Obviously it is Dave's duty to offer words of consolation to the fans but he proves that sometimes, it just ain't possible.
It seemed a bit perfunctory bearing in mind you are a published author who future generations might depend on to encapsulate the meaning and historical implications of such a result.
But if you think it represents your best work, please accept my apologies for thinking you capable of something better.
You are the poorest "troll" I have ever encountered! And by the way, it should be: "... you are a published author on whom future generations might depend..."
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Ignore the idiot, at least Dave had the guts to put a balanced article out after Sunday's disaster.
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The "perfect storm" theory in the third para is about right I think.
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For Villa droid read Emma...............................droid
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Ignore the idiot, at least Dave had the guts to put a balanced article out after Sunday's disaster.
Sorry, if I had known that praising Dave was compulsory, I would have obliged.
But what I can't understand, is how come, that from the moment I made my first post on H&V, people were queuing up to criticise my writing style.
Yet when I make a mild comment about Dave's piece, he not only goes all Diva on me, his mates all tell me he is beyond reproach.
It looks like a double standard to me.
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The "perfect storm" theory in the third para is about right I think.
I disagree with the implication that yesterday's drubbing was somehow inevitable and unavoidable. What it demonstrated is that the gap between our worst and Chelsea's best is huge. That Chelsea can be excellent comes as no surprise but I have to admit I was alarmed at just how bad we were.
As others said on the post-match thread, accepting that a young team will fluctuate in performance is one thing but losing 8-0 to anyone is, or should be, inexcusable. And that includes the frankly ludicrous "You can blame the referee" line.
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It is a measure of the hurt and humiliation produced by that result, that Woodhall's piece is rather incoherent, as he grasps at various straws of consolation, finds each one inadequate and moves on to try another, which proves equally insubstantial.
Obviously it is Dave's duty to offer words of consolation to the fans but he proves that sometimes, it just ain't possible.
It seemed a bit perfunctory bearing in mind you are a published author who future generations might depend on to encapsulate the meaning and historical implications of such a result.
But if you think it represents your best work, please accept my apologies for thinking you capable of something better.
You are the poorest "troll" I have ever encountered! And by the way, it should be: "... you are a published author on whom future generations might depend..."
Nice piece of counter-trolling.
Open with the classic snooty drama queen put-down, add a bit of snooty pedantry, before flouncing off with the rattle of your high-heels shown in ellipsis.
But I do no resent your right to correct my grammar because anyone who has had to learn German grammar, has earned the right, as far as I'm concerned.
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Ignore the idiot, at least Dave had the guts to put a balanced article out after Sunday's disaster.
Sorry, if I had known that praising Dave was compulsory, I would have obliged.
But what I can't understand, is how come, that from the moment I made my first post on H&V, people were queuing up to criticise my writing style.
Yet when I make a mild comment about Dave's piece, he not only goes all Diva on me, his mates all tell me he is beyond reproach.
It looks like a double standard to me.
I pay them.
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Ignore the idiot, at least Dave had the guts to put a balanced article out after Sunday's disaster.
Sorry, if I had known that praising Dave was compulsory, I would have obliged.
But what I can't understand, is how come, that from the moment I made my first post on H&V, people were queuing up to criticise my writing style.
Yet when I make a mild comment about Dave's piece, he not only goes all Diva on me, his mates all tell me he is beyond reproach.
It looks like a double standard to me.
I pay them.
It's worse than that.
They pay you!
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Ignore the idiot, at least Dave had the guts to put a balanced article out after Sunday's disaster.
Sorry, if I had known that praising Dave was compulsory, I would have obliged.
But what I can't understand, is how come, that from the moment I made my first post on H&V, people were queuing up to criticise my writing style.
Yet when I make a mild comment about Dave's piece, he not only goes all Diva on me, his mates all tell me he is beyond reproach.
It looks like a double standard to me.
Believe me in not criticising you droid, you use unusual words that aren't used on here which I find amusing but I respect your right to post your opinions and wish you a merry Christmas , don't take things to heart pal!
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The "perfect storm" theory in the third para is about right I think.
I disagree with the implication that yesterday's drubbing was somehow inevitable and unavoidable. What it demonstrated is that the gap between our worst and Chelsea's best is huge. That Chelsea can be excellent comes as no surprise but I have to admit I was alarmed at just how bad we were.
As others said on the post-match thread, accepting that a young team will fluctuate in performance is one thing but losing 8-0 to anyone is, or should be, inexcusable. And that includes the frankly ludicrous "You can blame the referee" line.
What we lacked yesterday besides experience was leadership- Clark as captain is not the answer .
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Ignore the idiot, at least Dave had the guts to put a balanced article out after Sunday's disaster.
Sorry, if I had known that praising Dave was compulsory, I would have obliged.
But what I can't understand, is how come, that from the moment I made my first post on H&V, people were queuing up to criticise my writing style.
Yet when I make a mild comment about Dave's piece, he not only goes all Diva on me, his mates all tell me he is beyond reproach.
It looks like a double standard to me.
Believe me in not criticising you droid, you use unusual words that aren't used on here which I find amusing but I respect your right to post your opinions and wish you a merry Christmas , don't take things to heart pal!
Seasonal greetings to you too.
Have no fear, I don't take these things to heart.
I have long understood that people tend to prefer me to express my opinions in words of less than one syllable. ;)
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Ignore the idiot, at least Dave had the guts to put a balanced article out after Sunday's disaster.
Sorry, if I had known that praising Dave was compulsory, I would have obliged.
But what I can't understand, is how come, that from the moment I made my first post on H&V, people were queuing up to criticise my writing style.
Yet when I make a mild comment about Dave's piece, he not only goes all Diva on me, his mates all tell me he is beyond reproach.
It looks like a double standard to me.
Believe me in not criticising you droid, you use unusual words that aren't used on here which I find amusing but I respect your right to post your opinions and wish you a merry Christmas , don't take things to heart pal!
Seasonal greetings to you too.
Have no fear, I don't take these things to heart.
I have long understood that people tend to prefer me to express my opinions in words of less than one syllable. ;)
Good man .
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Everyone knew there would be setbacks. Everyone knows this team is far from the finished article. What is important, and what will be remembered, is how they respond.
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What we lacked yesterday besides experience was leadership- Clark as captain is not the answer .
Apparently Clark was nicknamed "skip" whilst in the academy as the other players thought he was destined to be a captain. Not doubting it may have come earlier than expected/wanted but from everything I have read Clark has excellent Leadership skills.
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What we lacked yesterday besides experience was leadership- Clark as captain is not the answer .
Apparently Clark was nicknamed "skip" whilst in the academy as the other players thought he was destined to be a captain. Not doubting it may have come earlier than expected/wanted but from everything I have read Clark has excellent Leadership skills.
I think he will be captain and a good one at that in time but he is still learning his trade in the premiership and I don't think he is ready for the extra responsibility yet, I suppose the problem with vlaars absence is that there is hardly anyone who commands a regular place with any real experience to be a captain.
We need to add some experience in the transfer window particularly in midfield.
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The "perfect storm" theory in the third para is about right I think.
I disagree with the implication that yesterday's drubbing was somehow inevitable and unavoidable. What it demonstrated is that the gap between our worst and Chelsea's best is huge. That Chelsea can be excellent comes as no surprise but I have to admit I was alarmed at just how bad we were.
As others said on the post-match thread, accepting that a young team will fluctuate in performance is one thing but losing 8-0 to anyone is, or should be, inexcusable. And that includes the frankly ludicrous "You can blame the referee" line.
I don't think saying it was a "perfect storm" is implying it was inevitable or unavoidable at all. It's just that a number of factors combined simultaneously that are hopefully unlikely to do so again, at least to that extreme. For instance, on another day we could have been equally as bad and Chelsea may not have all played out of their skins when one might have expected them to be a little jaded.
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The "perfect storm" theory in the third para is about right I think.
I disagree with the implication that yesterday's drubbing was somehow inevitable and unavoidable. What it demonstrated is that the gap between our worst and Chelsea's best is huge. That Chelsea can be excellent comes as no surprise but I have to admit I was alarmed at just how bad we were.
As others said on the post-match thread, accepting that a young team will fluctuate in performance is one thing but losing 8-0 to anyone is, or should be, inexcusable. And that includes the frankly ludicrous "You can blame the referee" line.
I don't think saying it was a "perfect storm" is implying it was inevitable or unavoidable at all. It's just that a number of factors combined simultaneously that are hopefully unlikely to do so again, at least to that extreme. For instance, on another day we could have been equally as bad and Chelsea may not have all played out of their skins when one might have expected them to be a little jaded.
It's not the first time we've been that bad this season though, the scoreline might have been similar against Everton and Man City had they both been as ruthless as Chelsea.
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Equally we would have beaten Newcastle and Arsenal if we'd have been a bit more ruthless.
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The well-reasoned and rational comment underneath the piece certainly showed me up.
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I am just hoping Dunne has not overdone the turkey and christmas pudding because we could do with him short term. Maybe up front looking at the strike force injuries .
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The well-reasoned and rational comment underneath the piece certainly showed me up.
I thought it was spot on you know.
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The "perfect storm" theory in the third para is about right I think.
I disagree with the implication that yesterday's drubbing was somehow inevitable and unavoidable. What it demonstrated is that the gap between our worst and Chelsea's best is huge. That Chelsea can be excellent comes as no surprise but I have to admit I was alarmed at just how bad we were.
As others said on the post-match thread, accepting that a young team will fluctuate in performance is one thing but losing 8-0 to anyone is, or should be, inexcusable. And that includes the frankly ludicrous "You can blame the referee" line.
I don't think saying it was a "perfect storm" is implying it was inevitable or unavoidable at all. It's just that a number of factors combined simultaneously that are hopefully unlikely to do so again, at least to that extreme. For instance, on another day we could have been equally as bad and Chelsea may not have all played out of their skins when one might have expected them to be a little jaded.
It's not the first time we've been that bad this season though, the scoreline might have been similar against Everton and Man City had they both been as ruthless as Chelsea.
I don't disagree, but I'd have said that the fact that Chelsea were on fire, as well as the other factors, is what made that match the perfect storm and not the others.
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The well-reasoned and rational comment underneath the piece certainly showed me up.
That's the forward to your next book sorted.