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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on December 23, 2012, 06:48:40 PM
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Wednesday 26.12.12 KO 5:30pm
2-0 home win
Benteke 12
Weimann 78
I need a lie down in a dark room next to a few bottles of wine...
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1-1
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352 to be binned. Ireland, Charlie, Bennet and KEA to come in.
433, Charlie in the hole, Ireland and Bannan central with KEA sitting.
Spurs to be got at, us to beat them, 2-1.
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Villa 8 Spurs 0.
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We need to bounce back well.
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Intrigued to see which team and formation lambert selects , a big test for the young lads and I think they will rise to the challenge.
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I agree on the team / formation. Can't see lichaj being in it though!
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2-2, then beat Wigan
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Villa 8 Spurs 0.
That's the spirit !
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We've beat spurs twice in something like 14 years at home so the chance of us bouncing back and winning this is slim.
It gets worse guys our home record for winning on boxing day is truly abysmal,
Played 17 WON 3 LOST 11 DREW 3
Happy Christmas.
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Villa 8 Spurs 0.
That's the spirit !
More like the spirits.
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Suspect Delph and Ireland might come back into the team fresh legs and Idea's
Could do with Vlaar and Gabby back.
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Was expecting a point but think today has bolloxed us so 2-0 Spurs.
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Spurs are ******. We will do them.
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I'd certainly look at a couple of changes for each of the next few games. Mainly to try and keep people fresh. That's assuming we have enough fit players to do it.
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They are and they're not great against teams who sit deep at them like yesterday and losing at home to Wigan barely having a shock.
They're technically a better version of us under MON which is why they've been better away from home this season.
Clearly after today we have no option but to sit back as taking them on attacking with the defence vulnerable and with their pace would be suicidal.
Get plenty back and see what Benteke and Weimann can do on the break as their defence is hardly watertight themselves.
Ironic as Lichaj usually plays really well against them, last season he had Lennon in his pocket, season before he played very well against Bale.
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More than a little fearful of Lennon and Bale if we play 3-5-2.
Lambert should be and is responsible for todays shambolic display. He is a young
manager learning so can be forgiven some mistakes and he needs to learn and learn quickly.
3-1 to Spurz. Wigan is the big game not this one.
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No bounce back, no backlash. Just more misery, this time at home. Our spirit is shattered.
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I'd certainly look at a couple of changes for each of the next few games. Mainly to try and keep people fresh. That's assuming we have enough fit players to do it.
Zog and Albrighton should certainly be getting a look in.
While I'm here, I'm going for a 1-1, Clark and Defoe to score.
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Zog and Albrighton should certainly be getting a look in.
Zog maybe, Albrighton - No fucking way.
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0-8 defeat!
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0-8 defeat!
What a pathetic comment.
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I think they might just edge this one in injury time, 100-nil.
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Of course we can win !
Also if it was a choice between a 1-0 win or a 5-1 win I want 1-0.
Clean sheet is everything !
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I'd certainly look at a couple of changes for each of the next few games. Mainly to try and keep people fresh. That's assuming we have enough fit players to do it.
Zog and Albrighton should certainly be getting a look in.
While I'm here, I'm going for a 1-1, Clark and Defoe to score.
Albrighton- no thanks, not good enough, nzogbia is a good call though in place of Holman.
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I reckon we'll win this, for no other reason that everyone's on a down and we're not expected to do it. But the atmosphere will be ace and we'll surprise a few. I can see Lambert going back to square one though and putting N'Zog, Ireland, KEA and Delph in to try and put steel and experience in there.
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No bounce back, no backlash. Just more misery, this time at home. Our spirit is shattered.
And all that based on one game.
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3-1 to Spurs
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They are a good team hitting a bit of form. We'll probably make some changes after today but i think we'll take a point.
After today, the good thing is that we don't have to wait long for the next game as I expect us to be very up for it.
1-1
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0-8 defeat!
What a pathetic comment.
Jesus, lighten up. It wasn't a serious statement.
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We need to improve our goal difference, in a slow and orderly manner.
Us 2 - 1 Them
Tom & Hanks for us, Adebayor for them.
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1-1
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We will wallop them.
9-0.
N'zog won't play though as he will fall out of his bed on Tuesday night and injure his small toe.
The Benteke that was last seen at Kanfield will get 4.
Lowton will get 2.
Guzan will score from a goal kick.
Wee Barry will score 2 from long range.......ya that is where this theory falls down. His attempts from outside the box are laughable. Consistent though.
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I should imagine Vlarr , Ireland and Bennett will start .
I would like to see charlie start but f**k knows where he will be.
he might put Delph and KEA in . Keep Albrighton away please and Gabby can stay on the bench , he would not have made no difference today.
I think Lambert will dish out the bollocking and we will sneak a 2-1win
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1-4 to them.
Can't see us rebuilding the confidence ready for this match
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think PL will definitely bring in KEA for this one, Sandro and Dembele are both big strong lads, we need some steel in the midldle. may be a good time to give wee Barry a break.
think we'll bounce back, 2-2 Benteke and Clarke, don't care for them.
UTV!!!!!
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A nice win please followe dup by a win against Wigan. Dont mind if we get a hand from the ref either.
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Live on TV again.
Again, i fear we will do nothing to change our national reputation of either being boring or up for a battering.
0- 0
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As a play on a Christmas Carol you have three scenerios. The Villa of the past, present and future. We have had 2 visions in the Liverpool and Chelsea games. The question is what will the spurs game throw up and which games falls into which category. High brow stuff.
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3-0 Spurs. I fear for us now I really do
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4-1 spurs
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No bounce back, no backlash. Just more misery, this time at home. Our spirit is shattered.
And all that based on one game.
Exactly! There are people calling for Holman to be dropped for Gods sake.The game before Holman was being lauded for his exceptional industry by the fans and the media.
What Lambert should (and probably will do) is pick exactly the same team and suggest they go out and win the game.
Which they are quite capable of doing.
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No bounce back, no backlash. Just more misery, this time at home. Our spirit is shattered.
And all that based on one game.
Exactly! There are people calling for Holman to be dropped for Gods sake.The game before Holman was being lauded for his exceptional industry by the fans and the media.
What Lambert should (and probably will do) is pick exactly the same team and suggest they go out and win the game.
Which they are quite capable of doing.
I don't want the same team, I think lichaj needs to be replaced for sure and I'd probably bring Delph in for bannan , if nzogbia is fit then I'd play him ahead of Holman who looks in need of a rest.
Guzan
Lowton. Herd. Clark. Baker. Bennett
Westwood . Delph. Nzogbia
Weimann. Benteke
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I'd keep the same side personally. They need to be given the chance to put yesterday's result behind them.
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I'd keep the same side personally. They need to be given the chance to put yesterday's result behind them.
Lichaj is not a left back, he was ok as cover but now bennettis fit he should take over, bannan and Holman looked tired and poor and Delph and nzogbia would add some fresh legs.
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I'd keep the same side personally. They need to be given the chance to put yesterday's result behind them.
Lichaj is not a left back, he was ok as cover but now bennettis fit he should take over, bannan and Holman looked tired and poor and Delph and nzogbia would add some fresh legs.
I just think it would be wrong to make too many changes after that defeat as bad as it was. They've done well over the past few weeks, they deserve another chance to go again.
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Hope we go 4-5-1 in this to stifle Bale & Lennon. Chelsea showed they could leave their wingers forward and get loads of space when Lichaj and Lowton went upfield. Hopefully Vlaar will be back. Still sadly fancy Spurs to edge it
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I agree, 433/451 is the way we need to go. If Vlaar is fit I would go with;
Guzan, Bennett, Vlaar, Clarke, Lowton, KEA sitting, I am torn over whether Westwood or Bannan should start, Ireland, then Charlie and Holman off Benteke.
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I'd keep the same side personally. They need to be given the chance to put yesterday's result behind them.
Lichaj is not a left back, he was ok as cover but now bennettis fit he should take over, bannan and Holman looked tired and poor and Delph and nzogbia would add some fresh legs.
I just think it would be wrong to make too many changes after that defeat as bad as it was. They've done well over the past few weeks, they deserve another chance to go again.
I just feel there are games coming thick and fast and lambert needs to freshen things up, we have 6 games in 16 days and bannan and Holman look really tired, rest them and maybe they will be refreshed for Wigan.
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I'd leave Bennett out until the Wigan game. He's been out for too long to be thrown in just yet. I'd put N'Zogbia back on the bench but other than that, i'd go with the same eleven.
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More noise inside the stadium than an AC/DC concert, fans jumping up and down "Lamberts claret and blue army" style, hatrick from Benteke and a 4-2 win for Villa. Optimistic about the result i know but we have to get behind the lads and scare the shite out of Spurs. Pride will play a masive part and i think the battering we took against Chelski has slightly annoyed Benteke and all the rest of the team. Benteke annoyed, no thank you and he will rip Spurs a new arsehole. ;D
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We should also flood the away section with helium to speed up their dreadful slow dirge of a chant
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We should just flood the away end.
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More noise inside the stadium than an AC/DC concert, fans jumping up and down "Lamberts claret and blue army" style, hatrick from Benteke and a 4-2 win for Villa. Optimistic about the result i know but we have to get behind the lads and scare the shite out of Spurs. Pride will play a masive part and i think the battering we took against Chelski has slightly annoyed Benteke and all the rest of the team. Benteke annoyed, no thank you and he will rip Spurs a new arsehole. ;D
Let's hope so my friend, your optimism is a great antidote, keep it up! Thank you
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We should also flood the away section with helium to speed up their dreadful slow dirge of a chant
Urgh. Agreed, that chant is the most annoying one in a long list of annoying chants.
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Why are we so poor at home against the so called big teams, our record against utd, arsenal, spurs, Liverpool at home over the years is truly shocking , I think over the last 15 years we have won something like 6 or 7 out of 60 home games against them.
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Bennett in for Lichaj please, and I'd like to see NZogbia on the bench (if fit ?).
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I'd take a 0-0 or any draw. A point to steady the ship and give us a platform to beat Wigan in the six pointer.
I said about two months ago that 19 points going into January was a basis to stay up. I stand by that. 22 or more would be great.
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Why are some clamouring for Bennett ?
I haven't seen anything from him to suggest he is any better than a right back playing a left back.
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Why are some clamouring for Bennett ?
I haven't seen anything from him to suggest he is any better than a right back playing a left back.
Natural left footer and I trust lambert to have bought a good one in him- he hasn't really has a run of games when fully match fit yet, but lichaj is not natural in that position and an able deputy at best.
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1-1 Draw Benteke scoring for us.
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d i think the battering we took against Chelski has slightly annoyed Benteke and all the rest of the team. Benteke annoyed, no thank you and he will rip Spurs a new arsehole. ;D
He didn't look annoyed at the end of the game,he was chatting and laughing with the Chelsea players. I was bloody annoyed though
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Massively different performance and a home win to warm the cockles. 3-1 - Benteke, Westwood and Clark.
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We'll beat these, would you bet against us?
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1-1 Draw Benteke scoring for us.
I agree.
A win would be most welcome but I just can't see us doing it.
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Gotta get behind the young lads more than an ever for this one!
2-1 and a merry ish christmas after all!
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Really don't know what we'll do in this one, but i'd take a draw if we follow on with a win against Wigan.
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A draw would be a really good result. I hope we can get it, and then move on to put some points on the board starting with Wigan.
I think this is a big challenge though. Not only to get the players up for it and confident again, but also tactically. Anyone watching the Chelsea game had it laid fairly squarely on a plate in terms of how to play against us. It points to Bale and Lennon sticking wide, with one up front, and runners like Dembele, Sigurdsson or Dempsey running from midfield straight onto an exposed back 3.
So there's lots of reasons to go back to 4231, but unless Vlaar is back, that means Baker and Clark together. I thought they looked pretty flakey at home to Reading, which I think is why Lambert changed it.
On balance, I think I'd stick to the back 3, but dropping Lichaj for Bennett. The real choices will be in midfield, where perhaps one or two could do with a rest. Delph seems to be the most likely contender for me. Not sure this is the sort of game we need a Stephen Ireland for, but you never know.
Draw this and then beat Wigan, and I'll still maintain it's been a good pre-Christmas spell.
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Except, of course, that those games are very much post-Christmas! :)
I'm staying away from predictions after yesterday!
UTV!
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We'll beat these, would you bet against us?
This. I'm predicting Colosseum like noise on Boxing Day.
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We'll beat these, would you bet against us?
This. I'm predicting Colosseum like noise on Boxing Day.
That is exactly what will happen. The roof of the Holte will need major repairs after the game ;D
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We need to bounce back and I fancy us to do so and get a point so I'll go for a 3-3 thriller
Goals for Benteke, Delph and Agbonlahor to equalise in the last minute!
Merry Christmas!
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Nzog / Gabby / Vlaar all doubtful added to Bent and Dunne and your looking at Ireland being the only exprianced player we can bring in
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0-1 defeat, but a bit of pride restored.
Think we might go 4-3-3 with Zog, Delph and KEA all starting. Maybe Bannan, Holman and Herd making way.
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Wonder how many changes lambert will make . Only Guzan deserves the jersey .
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Probably something 1-3.
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Anything could happen in this game - reckon a 1-0 either way but most likely 1-1 as we maintain the hightest number of draws in history...
Weimann to score
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Worried
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Bounce back time - 3-1 Villa.
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If Lamberts face was anything to go by after the Chelski game, the players will be too scared to lose this one.
2-1 to Villa.
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1-1 Benteke for me, clive allen for them
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They have better players across the park so it all depends which Villa side turns up, the one against 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' may get us the draw but the one that turned up at Chelski will get us slaughtered again.
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Deal with Bale & Lennon and we can win. Don't deal with them could be another long 90 mins .
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We'll lose this, hard to know by how much. Depends on what team turns up. Still shocked by Chelsea game.
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Game plan:
1. fock them off
2. get into them
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After Sunday I'd probably be happy just to avoid defeat in this one, anything else would be a bonus.
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I'd be happy with a point .
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The players were lifted by the fans in second half at Norwich. I think a good atmosphere at VP tomorrow will help.
Villa, Villa, Villaaar
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Weimann is out with a calf injury for two to three weeks.
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Game plan:
1. fock them off
2. get into them
I always prefer to get into 'em first, then fuck 'em off but tastes on this differ ;-)
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Weimann is out with a calf injury for two to three weeks.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Weimann is out with a calf injury for two to three weeks.
Where did you see this info ?
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Balls.
Maybe Benteke upfront with Ireland supporting him and a tight 4 man midfield behind them. I'd be well happy with a point in this as long as we beat Wigan.
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Benteke with Ireland behind, Westwood, KEA and Bannan tight behind, with the 5 man back line for me. Try and be solid.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/9765048/Paul-Lambert-demands-Aston-Villa-make-instant-recovery-against-Tottenham-after-Chelsea-thrashing.html
Well, he has to say it!! Who will and who won't be there?
N'Zog maybe?? Bent no. We need a hero!!
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Weimann is out with a calf injury for two to three weeks.
Where did you see this info ?
I can't see any reference to that
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KEA already gone to the African nations apparently, so scratch him tomorrow.
Need a couple of early signings in Jan!
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Haven't got a clue in this one. Predicted a loss against Chelsea but was 7 goals out with the scoreline!
Head says we'll lose by a couple. Although as its meant to be the season of good cheer I'll go for a scrappy 1-1.
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Has kea really already gone? It doesn't start till something like 21 January?
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Has kea really already gone? It doesn't start till something like 21 January?
I think he is still here, but I read on one of the pre match write ups that he has already gone. Not sure which.
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Weimann is out with a calf injury for two to three weeks.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was having a good christmas
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how the f**k does nzogbia keep getting injured . Its only my thumbs that usually ache on Playstation .
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I don't think it's true
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KEA already gone to the African nations apparently
No great loss .
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It would be for the cup semis because Westwood is out
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I don't think it's true
what Santa , not real?
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Well after the City Thrashing we got a draw against arsenal so I'm going for the same against Spurs.
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It would be for the cup semis because Westwood is out
Fair point we may have to rely on Herd or Clark playing the DCM role ?
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We really need to sort the goals for and against columns out. It's getting embarrassing.
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It would be for the cup semis because Westwood is out
Fair point we may have to rely on Herd or Clark playing the DCM role ?
Or Delph.
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Not sure delph and bannan would work together. Lambert's been clear he sees Clark as a centre back. I doubt he fancies Herd there.
Any sign yet that this Weimann injury stuff is real?
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I can't abide Spurs. They probably think this is an easy three points, and I hope we disappoint them.
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0-0. After last week Lambert will dare not lose this one and will spoil the game. That'll do me.
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We really need to sort the goals for and against columns out. It's getting embarrassing.
A few points wouldn't go amiss either.
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I would be happy with Benteke kicking the heads off of a few Spurs players, throwing his boots into the Trinity while shouting "Are you not entertained?"
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We really need to sort the goals for and against columns out. It's getting embarrassing.
A few points wouldn't go amiss either.
Points win prizes.
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KEA already gone to the African nations apparently, so scratch him tomorrow.
Need a couple of early signings in Jan!
Yeah saw that just now, surely that's a bit early considering it dosen't start until middle of January and there's been instances in the past when clubs have kept players until early January?
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Lets get behind the kids!
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Spurs are c***s. We will do them.
I applaud this logic.
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KEA already gone to the African nations apparently, so scratch him tomorrow.
Need a couple of early signings in Jan!
Yeah saw that just now, surely that's a bit early considering it dosen't start until middle of January and there's been instances in the past when clubs have kept players until early January?
Its normally 2 weeks before isn't it?
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Just awful weather today. It's not going to be a pleasant walk from car to seat.
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It would be for the cup semis because Westwood is out
Fair point we may have to rely on Herd or Clark playing the DCM role ?
Or Delph.
Nobody is ever that desperate.
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A point would be great today. Really hope we can get at least a point.
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Come on Villa!! There is a Spuds fan round the corner who is the most irritating person on earth especially when it comes to his unwanted and uninvited oipinions of the Lions!! Come the Villa..Emphatically shut his abusive and insulting mouth!