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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on December 22, 2012, 05:09:39 PM
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Available Sunday afternoon.
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We're unchanged.
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Come on you Villa boys.
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Anyone know if we're on the wireless?
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We're unchanged.
Yep, as expected and derserved. Wonder if Ireland is on the bench
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Looks a good Chelsea side that. Luiz and Lampard in midfield, and Ivanovic and Cahill at centre back. Azpilcueta and Cole likely to get lots of the ball in the full back positions.
Would definitely take a point! Come on villa!!
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Guzan, Lowton, Baker, Clark [c], Lichaj, Holman, Westwood, Bannan, Herd, Weimann, Benteke
Subs: Given, Bowery, El Ahmadi, Ireland, Bennett, Delph, Albrighton
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Unchanged is fair. Come on Villa!
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Anyone know if we're on the wireless?
We're certainly on the wifi.
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N'zogbia injured again?
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Anyone know if we're on the wireless?
Home Service or the Light programme ?
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Bah humbug!
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Anyone know if we're on the wireless?
Home Service or the Light programme ?
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I think Alan Green will be wearing his dinner jacket,talking shite on Five live.
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When does Alan Green not talk shite?
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when he's taking one
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Could have sworn I saw Concrete's name as the team scrolled across the Stamford Bridge big screen as it wa showing the Swansea game
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Holman needs to get close to Luiz. I can see him being influential in that role today. Would have much preferred him at cb! Also a bit worried about lichaj v Moses.
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when he's taking one
Even then I suspect the commentary would be hopeless - no that definitely does not stink and the bowl was not fouled!
On a brighter note I'm off to get a Frey Bentos!!
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I think Alan Green will be wearing his dinner jacket,talking shite on Five live.
Cheers Bert. Looks like we are on 5 Live.
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Come on Villa!
I'd take a point.
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I think Alan Green will be wearing his dinner jacket,talking shite on Five live.
Cheers Bert. Looks like we are on 5 Live.
Not got sky pws?
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Evening all. Fancy us for a result tonight.
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Ray Wilkins doesn't seem to rate our chances. No surprise there.
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Five Live only over here in Laos as all the bars seem to shut at about ten, and our game's too late
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Fat arse is the ref.Playing 12 men today.
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Can see Luiz getting sent off today.
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Can see Luiz getting sent off today.
See bertlambshank's post above....
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I think Alan Green will be wearing his dinner jacket,talking shite on Five live.
Cheers Bert. Looks like we are on 5 Live.
Not got sky pws?
Nope, and superstition means because we've now had 2 good away wins when i've listened on the radio that I have to listen to this game on the radio. And eat a pie at HT. One day i'll grow out of these superstitions.....
Come on you Lions!!!
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Poor foul Herd.
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Can see Luiz getting sent off today.
see above.
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12 seconds didn't Dowd long to give them a free kick did it...tosser
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It was a free kick.
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Fucks sake.
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ffs
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Fucking hell, great start.
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ahh crap.
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Oh for fuck sake
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Great header but awful awful defending.
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Here we go.
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Watching on SNWL John Gregory is co-commentator.
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poor defending
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TOo easy that. It's going to be a long afternoon.
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Fucking hate Torres
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I can see us getting a hammering today.
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The 3 defenders just let him drift off.
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have faith
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inexperience from herd there.
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Too much space for the cross - poor defending , great header though - no chance for Guzan.
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Poor defending as a group, 3 defenders in a triangle and he has unreal amount of space. Great finish though
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Torres is fucking shite for ages and suddenly produces a world class header against us after 2 minutes. Litle bitch.
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Chelsea look up for this today
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Torres is fucking shite for ages and suddenly produces a world class header against us after 2 minutes. Litle bitch.
unchallenged thou ;(
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I've a bad feeling about this one I have to say. Clark looks nervy. Herd has let Torres get the run on him twice, including for the goal. Their full backs have acres of space. Need to play our way back into it, but be alive to their very quick balls into Torres and into the channels
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Torres is fucking shite for ages and suddenly produces a world class header against us after 2 minutes. Litle bitch.
He's got 7 in his last 6 now. Trust us to face him when he's in form.
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We look like we've settled a little, but I can't see us getting anything here.
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we can still score
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JG still loves us.
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Lichaj you can't allow someone to juggle the ball on his chest.
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Oh my god. John Gregory just said "McLeish was never accepted by the Villa fans because he was from Birmingham City". Fucking dolt!
I'd have expected better from JG...
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we can still score
Hope so.
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have faith
What he said
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first corner
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If the one on 44 seconds was a free kick (which it was) how is Luiz not penalised there?
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If the one on 44 seconds was a free kick (which it was) how is Luiz not penalised there?
cos we are the Villa not Chelsea!
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come on Villa. baggies are better than these ;)
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Just popped in to say Bollocks!
Watching on Canal+ (only because Chelsea are on. Wankers!)
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I don't expect anything today, so it is a bonus game if you like. We are playing ok again though. Still think if we win the big home games to come at Villa park next few months we will be more than comfortable.
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Sounds like we are bit nervy. Give it another 10 mins and we will start to go at em.
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Settled a bit now.
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They might have Moses but we had God
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If we hadn't gifted them all the space in the world to score their goal, we'd be looking fairly comfortable. We're not being poked a fresh one.
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They might have Moses but we had God
Jesus Christ!
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getting more of the ball now but still giving it away cheaply
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Pathetic 16 minute rubbish from those wankers
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Oh my god. John Gregory just said "McLeish was never accepted by the Villa fans because he was from Birmingham City". Fucking dolt!
I'd have expected better from JG...
Tired old drivel from somebody who hasn't got his finger on the pulse.
He's just read that in one of the nationals.
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Are they really doing a minute applause for Di Matteo? Really? What a bunch of spoiled brats they really are.
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We look nervy. That early goal unsettled us. Need to calm it down a bit and get back into the game.
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We do actually look a pretty decent side now down't we? Lambert has a tough job in January to find players to compete/ be better than some of this side.
Who is the ref??
And Why is JG pronouncing Fernando with a silent h instead of the F??!
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OK these boys are going to have to deal with conceding an early goal or two in big games. This is a good test.
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Another team attacks our left back. If nothing else, we need a left back in Jan.
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Lichaj is still the weak link for me. I'd try Bennet next time out.
Holman tried to thread the eye of a needle there!
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During the 16th minute 5 Live spend the minute talking about what it is and RDM etc. During the 19th minute, not a word about it. Anyone surprised?
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Lichaj terrifies me.
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It shows a real lack of class for our fans to have a minute's applause for Petrov during this game.
Petrov will never know the pain, fear and uncertainty over his future that Di Matteo has.
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Anybody tweeting while following the match? Follow my feed: @pickastonvilla. If you want to, that is.
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We do actually look a pretty decent side now down't we? Lambert has a tough job in January to find players to compete/ be better than some of this side.
Who is the ref??
And Why is JG pronouncing Fernando with a silent h instead of the F??!
Dowd.
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During the 16th minute 5 Live spend the minute talking about what it is and RDM etc. During the 19th minute, not a word about it. Anyone surprised?
No BBC are now fully paid members of Chavness class.
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Lichaj terrifies me.
He is not a left back at all.
Now the commentator calling for a Chelsea pen!!
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During the 16th minute 5 Live spend the minute talking about what it is and RDM etc. During the 19th minute, not a word about it. Anyone surprised?
Nope.
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Baker you need to be careful that.
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Chelsea's defence better organised than Liverpool were at the back. We're struggling for ideas a bit in the last third, though have grown into it a bit. I do think there are goals here for Chelsea though. I think we may have a problem in terms of taking responsibility for picking people up at the back. Herd looks a bit like a rabbit in headlights.
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Dowd has started as expected, no terrible decisions but anything we've done that's borderline is a free kick, similar from them and he hasn't given a single one, it's all very predictable.
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ref looks as fit as tony soprano
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We got off lightly there.
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Alan Green on now.
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Ciaran that is shite, you need to be composed.
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Herd's distrbution is really poor isn't it?
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Dowd has started as expected, no terrible decisions but anything we've done that's borderline is a free kick, similar from them and he hasn't given a single one, it's all very predictable.
Standard Dowd. Fucking biased as they come to the top 4 or so.
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Get the ball down on the deck Villa
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Herd looking dodgy poor distribution most of the time
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During the 16th minute 5 Live spend the minute talking about what it is and RDM etc. During the 19th minute, not a word about it. Anyone surprised?
Nope.
They need to get over it, he hasn't fucking died. He was given the sack and walked away with more money than any of us will ever see.
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Baker you need to be careful that.
hands all over Torres , must have thought he was a ladyboy
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Do you think back 3 is correct and we should switch to flat 4?
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During the 16th minute 5 Live spend the minute talking about what it is and RDM etc. During the 19th minute, not a word about it. Anyone surprised?
Nope.
Di Matteo deserves all the sympathy he can get. Poor bloke only walked away with a few million
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Dowd has started as expected, no terrible decisions but anything we've done that's borderline is a free kick, similar from them and he hasn't given a single one, it's all very predictable.
Standard Dowd. Fucking biased as they come to the top 4 or so.
He's probably already booked his hotel for Feb 23rd in the Wembley area.
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I think we need to keep it tight until HT. The second half will ours.
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We've restricted them since the goal which is good as we need to keep the score close. I think we can nick a goal here.
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herd having a mare so far
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Just need to try and hold on for a bit. Rash challenge here. Hopefully Lampard will just smack this into the wall again . . .
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The back three look shaky today, we're missing Vlaar in place of Herd.
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That's game over I reckon.
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Game over.
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That's that, we're gonna get a hammering now.
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fuck off
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Shit.
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well If you give free kicks away so fooking easy against these
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No way back from here.
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fooking guzan! saw that one going in all way
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Stems from Herd not being up to it really.
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Well that's this over with fucking great.
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Fucking side show bob having the best game of his Chelsea career so far.
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Goodnight Vienna
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Well that's the end of that. Bugger.
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brilliant free kick. no stopping that one. oh well. lets just maintain some pride here
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Herd for fucks sake, that is dreadful.
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2-3, we're gonna win 2-3...
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Bollox. Stupid late challenge from Lowton and David Luis is always a threat from that position.
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I just hope we don't take a pasting now.
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Lambert needs to change this around a bit. We're not keeping the ball at all - 3 at the back aint doing it today.
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Herd and Lichaj haven't been great.
When is Vlaar back? Also, we do need about two signings minimum. I think we look a bit jaded today. They haven't shown the spark they had at Anfield.
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Problem is, our goal difference is going to get a battering today and we may need to rely on it to stay up. Why is this happening to us?
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Bollox. Stupid late challenge from Lowton and David Luis is always a threat from that position.
It was Herd.
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Not much of a cheer from the home fans. We can still get something from this. Keep calm.
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Herd for fucks sake, that is dreadful.
I think his pass completion is generally about 40%, even with plenty of time on the ball as he has today.
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Lambert needs to change this around a bit. We're not keeping the ball at all - 3 at the back aint doing it today.
exactly
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Guzan was a fault for that,he showed him the left and said 'thank you very much'.
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this is all a bit too easy for them I feel
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Back three is not working here and Lichaj and Herd aren't really up to it.
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For fuck sakes! WAKE UP!!!!
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I just hope we don't take a pasting now.
We need to keep that goal difference in check. There's still about four or five teams that could get sucked into 18th seeing ad reading and QPR are so far adrift.
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Herd having a mare ..should go to back 4 for 2nd half
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GOT to get a couple of experienced players in the window.
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Not much of a cheer from the home fans. We can still get something from this. Keep calm.
pass us some acid
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Herd and Lichaj haven't been great.
When is Vlaar back? Also, we do need about two signings minimum. I think we look a bit jaded today. They haven't shown the spark they had at Anfield.
We were overrun by Liverpool for about 20 minutes but they have no one who can finish. Chelsea are a much better team and have finishers running through most of their team. Think one must take account of that...
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Oh dear, this could get really bad.
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We're not getting the ball at all. Terrible set piece defending, 3-0.
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shit
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3-0 gona be a pasting now
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Herd and Lichaj haven't been great.
When is Vlaar back? Also, we do need about two signings minimum. I think we look a bit jaded today. They haven't shown the spark they had at Anfield.
We were overrun by Liverpool for about 20 minutes but they have no one who can finish. Chelsea are a much better team and have finishers running through most of their team. Think one must take account of that...
True but we did grow into the game at Anfield and had a certain zip to us. Today we seem flat and sluggish.
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we are going to be an utter tanking here.
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could be 8 if we aint careful
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WTF is going on?
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oh dear....a fucking tonking !!
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3-0 FUCK
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FOR FUCK SAKES!!!! How fucking poor is this?!
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This could be embarrassing if we;re not careful. Fuck waiting for the second half. CHANGE IT.
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This is going to get real ugly. Could be worse than O'Neill's 7-1.
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Oh Fuck
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FFS every time they go near our box they look like scoring.
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Shocking set piece defending. Make some changes now Lambert, Herd and Lichaj sadly are not good enough.
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That'll be that then
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I expect double figures now. The whole nation watches our humiliation.
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Bollocks. Great stop Guzan, but Herd andLichaz have had a woeful few minutes. Vlaar coming back would be nice!
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Oh dear oh dear oh dear
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This is going pretty much the way many of us expected this season - we are a very unpredictable team in a very unpredictable league. Won't be the last time by any means we get this sort of run of results and we're not the only team in the same situation by any means...
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A wake-up call, the patient is still not fully recovered and may need some attention in January.
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Alan Green is frothing at the ears with delight.
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I can't stand Luiz either. He is a fucking cheating nasty footballer, and I hate watching him play.
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Oh dear. In trouble here. Thought that was Guzan's fault at first, but I don't think so. I'd take the current scoreline now to be honest. It looks like men against boys.
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We knew this season be a roller coaster , get it out of our system move on
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I can sense a "we go again" coming on.
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Fuck I hate Chelsea.....
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There was always a danger of this sort of regression when we've got so much inexperience in the squad.
Time to adress it in the window Mr Lambert.
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Herd not good enough again.
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herd is bloody awful today
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Somebody throw a towel on the pitch, please.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
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come on big man watch the off side
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We need experience and we need Vlaar back.
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Lowton and Lichaj are really being exposed two on one. I'd have thought there's a good case for reverting to a back 4, getting Herd off the pitch.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
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I can't stand Luiz either. He is a fucking cheating nasty footballer, and I hate watching him play.
I wish we had him.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
well we were not that good first 30mins against 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and then we grew in confidence , we needed a clean sheet until the 30th min again but the defending has been shocking compared to last week.
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Lambert singing the defence's progress but against a good quality attack we look poor.
Don't see what PL can do at half time to change this and don't think Vlaar would change the result, just a lesser score
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I suppose we are due a defeat. Lets hope it doesn't effect morale too much.
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Sadly I've thought this all along Lichaj and Herd are useful squad players but they should never be regular starters for us.
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Need to get Bennett on for lichaj and el ahmedi for Weimann - game is lost but need to avoid a real hammering.
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we have the touch of Fred the weatherman
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It's probably a good thing. We don't want Randy thinking that this squad is good enough to stay in the PL. The need for strengthening in January is obvious now.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
On foot
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Well that is my St William's bet spoiled!! Come on Villa show a bit of inventive backbone.
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Poor all over the park. I don't think we've had a shot.
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Benteke you need to watch the line.
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fuck off bannon
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4-1 was 100-1 this morning..to them! I thought what a load of shite; impossible now..and??
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Sadly I've thought this all along Lichaj and Herd are useful squad players but they should never be regular starters for us.
I agree.
I think Lichaj is especially poor.
Out the door with Albrighton.
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I think this is asking a bit much of the magic Admiral's Pie.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
We look like a team that has players that belong in the bottom half, against a side that, despite having a poor season, will comfortably finish in the top 4.
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I think this is asking a bit much of the magic Admiral's Pie.
Well, is it magic or what??
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Bannan reminds me of Dennis Mortimer. Neither can/could shoot to save their lives but it never stops them trying.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
I hope we can save on the wailing and gnashing of teeth. There'll be more matches like this, this season. I don't agree Chelsea have been in second gear, they've been playing at a high pace.
One thing I can agree on is that we can't go on with Herd and Lichaj in the side for too much longer.
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I think this is asking a bit much of the magic Admiral's Pie.
Let's give it a whirl.
Got to be better than this shit sandwich of a first half.
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I think this is asking a bit much of the magic Admiral's Pie.
You're going to have to have two, today. Get it down ya.
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Sadly I've thought this all along Lichaj and Herd are useful squad players but they should never be regular starters for us.
I agree.
I think Lichaj is especially poor.
Out the door with Albrighton.
Yep, i'm not happy about it. But they're not good enough.
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I think this is asking a bit much of the magic Admiral's Pie.
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Wash it down with some Vimto. That might do it
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I think this is asking a bit much of the magic Admiral's Pie.
You're going to have to have two, today. Get it down ya.
Have 4, just in case
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Lambert singing the defence's progress but against a good quality attack we look poor.
Don't see what PL can do at half time to change this and don't think Vlaar would change the result, just a lesser score
He good massively change it. Take Herd who is a liability off and put Ireland on who got motm here last year.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
We look like a team that has players that belong in the bottom half, against a side that, despite having a poor season, will comfortably finish in the top 4.
I thought you might say something like that! I agree, just saying it's tough to accept being slaughtered with a cheery smile and a shrug.
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Bit unlucky for us that Chelsea appoint a half-decent manager and start playing really well just in time for us to turn at the Bridge.
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Benteke is consistently going too early here.
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Someone needs to explain the offside rule to Benteke.
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Bannan on the fucking deck.
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we are so slow at releasing the ball
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That was a shit pass from Bannan there. Awful, under no pressure whatsoever.
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Benteke not too great either today needs to watch the line showing his inexperiance
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As good as is to beat teams like Liverpool, what we simply must do between now and end of the season is defeat those teams in the bottom half of the table. Our goal difference is worth one less point, so we need to ensure that where we need to win we do. Anything else is a bonus.
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
We look like a team that has players that belong in the bottom half, against a side that, despite having a poor season, will comfortably finish in the top 4.
I thought you might say something like that! I agree, just saying it's tough to accept being slaughtered with a cheery smile and a shrug.
Oh I agree, I'm far from pleased, just not surprised either.
Herd, Lichaj, Baker, Bannan...not exactly the sort of players that are going to get us results against teams outside of the bottom half. Despite progress in recent weeks, the team is still pretty shit.
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Lichaj awful again.
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That's one of the worst halves of football I've ever had the displeasure to watch.
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Well that was horrible. Lichaj and Herd off please.
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Can we declare?
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3-0 about right, nothing to complain about.
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Its begining to look like it is us who have jet lag .........
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PL needs to deliver a rousing speech.
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The inexperience is showing today.
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Lambs to the slaughter. Completely outclassed by a very good Chelsea side. Oh for a midfield that can supply the forwards.
I only wish the game was over.
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Bloody fed up my Chelsea supporting wife will be finishing work soon to round things off.
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With such a young and a developing team which is very much a work in progress, I guess we are going to have good days and bad days.
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We are up against one of the strongest midfields in the premiership. Lambert can only work with what we have.
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Bloody fed up my Chelsea supporting wife will be finishing work soon to round things off.
You've only yourself to blame.
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no cutting edge , no ideas . to slow at passing the ball and getting caught in possession , awful defending.
Lichaj and Herd having a mare , bannon thinks he is iniesta and hes not .
Needs changing at HT to keep it at 3-0 and I f**king hate Chelsea and all their nancy boys .
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Phil Dowd is so fat.
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I'd offer them 3.3. They would take it they had any sense.
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They don't look like they were in Japan a week ago and played a game mid week.
Not promising if we get hammered and have to play them at Wembley, should we beat Bradford.
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Well at least we know what we can look forward to if we get past Bradford and they make the final.
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We're the worst team in the league by far this weekend.
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The inexperience is showing today.
Yep, and some lack of quality too and to be fair I can forgive both. Teams know our left back position is vulnerable and every team we've played in the past month has headed that way so Lichaj along with Herd fall into the latter category - certainly in the positions they are currently playing.
If I were Lambert, I'd move to a back found, throw Ireland on and remind Benteke about how the offside rule works. We need to get a lot more aggressive in our pressing and tackling too - we look like we're a bit in awe at times.
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Vlaar come back please.
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Well at least we know what we can look forward to if we get past Bradford and they make the final.
That's the only positive for me. Should both teams reach the final, Chelsea probably won't bother changing out of their Wembley suits and we might just do them.
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formation is not working. i wasnt a fan of it last week either, and thought we got away with it a bit due to some poor liverpool finishing (they should have really been 3 up after 20 mins) and the fact we got it right on the break.
we have 3 centrebacks marking 1 forward, leaving the midfield and fullbacks exposed with 2 on 1s. chelseas 3 attacking midfielders are killing us with their movement and we are all over the place in terms of positioning and communication. and when we get on the ball in the midfield we have no where to go because chelsea out number us there.
we are not clicking on the break at all, and all benteke has done is stray offside.
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Phil Dowd is so fat.
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Holman and Wiemann anonymous, Bannan needs to stop thinking he's Sid Cowans.
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The inexperience is showing today.
Yep, and some lack of quality too and to be fair I can forgive both. Teams know our left back position is vulnerable and every team we've played in the past month has headed that way so Lichaj along with Herd fall into the latter category - certainly in the positions they are currently playing.
If I were Lambert, I'd move to a back found, throw Ireland on and remind Benteke about how the offside rule works. We need to get a lot more aggressive in our pressing and tackling too - we look like we're a bit in awe at times.
Id go with that . blimey keep agreeing with Riggy ;)
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
I hope we can save on the wailing and gnashing of teeth. There'll be more matches like this, this season. I don't agree Chelsea have been in second gear, they've been playing at a high pace.
One thing I can agree on is that we can't go on with Herd and Lichaj in the side for too much longer.
That's a little patronising Matt if you don't mind me saying so. I don't think I was wailing and I'm well sure my teeth aren't gnashing. My point was that, despite our inexperience and lack of depth of quality, it still hurts being battered by anybody.
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Vlaar come back please.
Vlaar is not all that does 5-0 ring any bells.
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He's a lot better than Herd and more importantly is experieced. He's also our best centre half.
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The inexperience is showing today.
Yep, and some lack of quality too and to be fair I can forgive both. Teams know our left back position is vulnerable and every team we've played in the past month has headed that way so Lichaj along with Herd fall into the latter category - certainly in the positions they are currently playing.
If I were Lambert, I'd move to a back found, throw Ireland on and remind Benteke about how the offside rule works. We need to get a lot more aggressive in our pressing and tackling too - we look like we're a bit in awe at times.
Id go with that . blimey keep agreeing with Riggy ;)
You know it makes sense Pably ;)
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Phil Dowd is so fat.
I think he is getting fatter as the game goes on......I hate the fat twunt (can't blame him for today's poor performance tho)
....well I suppose we could.... oi Dowd you fat useless twat
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just thought , is Nzogbia injured AGAIN ??
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I wouldn't say Chelsea were in 2nd gear. We certainly are. The crazy thing is they have had just 6 goal attempts in the half and have put away 3.
Collective kick in the arse for the entire team. We are better than this. Go out and win 2nd half.
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We simply haven't recovered from a very nervy start.
Chelsea remain a very tall team, and are bullying us.
You sense the media will be loving this. Sod em, lets keep developing. We will get there
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
I hope we can save on the wailing and gnashing of teeth. There'll be more matches like this, this season. I don't agree Chelsea have been in second gear, they've been playing at a high pace.
One thing I can agree on is that we can't go on with Herd and Lichaj in the side for too much longer.
That's a little patronising Matt if you don't mind me saying so. I don't think I was wailing and I'm well sure my teeth aren't gnashing. My point was that, despite our inexperience and lack of depth of quality, it still hurts being battered by anybody.
Sorry, I can see that. I think it was more in anticipation of a bunch of half time angst. I agree yours was probably a fairly balanced view!
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Doesn't look like any changes, very surprised. Herd and Lichaj should have gone.
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No HT changes.
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A better half now please Villa.
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He's a lot better than Herd and more importantly is experieced. He's also our best centre half.
He is but we'd still be losing against this side, but perhaps not by three, although their third was just fortunate Guzan's save went straight to Ivanovic
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Chelsea are playing 4231, having 3 CBs makes things really difficult for our fullbacks who have to stay quite deep to stop moses and hazard pulling the cb's wide but that leaves too much space for their fullbacks, so lowton and lichaj go to close them down and we leave gaps. Hazard and Moses have had far too much space so far.
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how is Herd and Lichaj still on ?
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Bannan has that little shit look, like Deco and Dennis Wise. Well punchable.
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For God sake stay onside
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For every Liverpool or Swansea, there's a Southampton. I think people were expecting a bit much after the last couple of games.
Maybe so, but nobody can be happy with being 3-0 down after half an hour when Chelsea haven't really had to play out of 2nd gear. We look like the team who have travelled around the world in the last week.
I hope we can save on the wailing and gnashing of teeth. There'll be more matches like this, this season. I don't agree Chelsea have been in second gear, they've been playing at a high pace.
One thing I can agree on is that we can't go on with Herd and Lichaj in the side for too much longer.
That's a little patronising Matt if you don't mind me saying so. I don't think I was wailing and I'm well sure my teeth aren't gnashing. My point was that, despite our inexperience and lack of depth of quality, it still hurts being battered by anybody.
Sorry, I can see that. I think it was more in anticipation of a bunch of half time angst. I agree yours was probably a fairly balanced view!
Fair enough :)
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ffs Offside Beneteke
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Has Benteke been taught the offside law by JPA in the past week?
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On the replay he was in line
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3 centre halves is not necessary here, system isn't working.
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Save Guzan, horrendous defending again.
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ffs thought that was 4 great save
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Fantastic save
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On the replay he was in line
I think so too.
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Its clear what side the officials favour and they're not in claret and blue
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Get Bennett on please.
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A simple formation change and we could win this. All we have to do is work out how to field a 6-7-4 formation.
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On the replay he was in line
Clearly onside, Neville paused in slagging Benteke when he realised it was a crap decision, but then went ahead and slagged CB for going early anyway, that's the kind of annoying commentary/punditry that I hate in football.
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A simple formation change and we could win this. All we have to do is work out how to field a 6-7-4 formation.
Hopefully there's an industrial strength fog machine on the team bus.
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Now to get three back for another glorious draw!!! We are good at that, theoretically.
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close
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Herd and baker are getting plenty of time on the ball but their distribution has been poor. Moses isn't tracking lichaj back because its a risk worth taking. We've lacked composure when we've had opportunities to break on them. At least today probably makes chelsea and others think that Benteke isn't ready!
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Dreadful corner. What a waste.
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even Dowd plays for them
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Better
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art least we are trying to close them down , a bit of urgency
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Ireland & Bennett coming on.
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Bannan's delivery is absolutely woeful. Why is he even in this team.
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Fuck off Torres.
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For Lichaj and Westwood.
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Bennett at last and Ireland
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get out of the way dowd you fat red card welching top four loving fucking pregnant looking nob cheeser!
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Bloody hell. That leaves our midfield looking very open.not sure about that one
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fuck off Torres
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Bannan's delivery is absolutely woeful. Why is he even in this team.
You can tell that he thinks he is brilliant. Sorry but you are not pal
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4-0 oh dear.
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guzan save us Bannan was shocking then
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Just fuck off
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ffs 4-0
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4-0 this is painful.
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Gary Neville slags Benteke off for Torres being offside, then has a pop at Baker of it
fuck sakes
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Ireland on. What mood is he in today. Will he make an effort for his £80k a week. Or will he just jog about.
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For the sake of fuck, not that fat wanker.
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pile of quim!
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Oh dear!! Oh dear again..long way to go!
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Bannan very poor today
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This is how they should of started.
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How many efforts on goal have we had ?
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How many efforts on goal have we had ?
None.
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fuck off John Terry you thug
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How many efforts on goal have we had ?
1 on target, 3 off.
Can't remember any of them, mind you.
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For the sake of fuck, not that fat wanker.
He might be, but he knows where the goals is
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What the fuck is going on with our defence? awful.
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We really look like we're falling apart here. What on earth was bannan doing there? Great strike again though. Our wing back system has been horribly exposed today because Chelsea have been prepared to let our wingbacks go one on one v their full backs. Lowton has been in characteristically poor.
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We've crumbled
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Men against boys.
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If you're going to lose, do it 1-0. We're gonna need reasonable goal difference in May. This is rout, what was our preparation for this game?
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Bannan should have gone off not Westwood
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Could be 5 or 6
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Bannan has had a poor game today but he's played well in the last 5-6 lets not get a lynch mob on him for a bad game.
We've been outclassed and have played a system that has benefitted them more than us (becuase hazard and moses haven't bothered tracking our full backs, so they've had loads of space), just one of those games we're going to see whilst we're still a very young side.
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Can't take anything away from Chelsea, they've been bloody good today and four top draw goals.
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Ah great ball Ireland, unlucky.
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unlucky
Ireland was awesome then
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I'm trying not to post angry stuff.
But this is such a reality check. We are still in real danger. Just three points off the drop zone with a very poor goal difference and all the teams around of us capable of picking up many wins.
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We need to change this system, or keep 5 at the back and take the 4-0 defeat.
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Looking tough for the boys out there now.Horrible scoreline but look at players they have Hazard ,Torres ,Mata and Moses are destroying us
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Stevie Ireland, 1st bit of play he's involved with is our best chance
Gar Neville "he might have been offside" he wasn't. Not even close, I like him as a commentatory but what is his problem today?
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And that's why Ireland should be playing more this season. Pretty much the only player we have who can string some passes together.
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I'm trying not to post angry stuff.
But this is such a reality check. We are still in real danger. Just three points off the drop zone with a very poor goal difference and all the teams around of us capable of picking up many wins.
Its chelsea away not Wigan at home . I know what you mean but Liverpoo was a bonus 3 pts for me anyway
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Yes we need to quickly put this game to bed and look ahead to the spurs game- not many teams will get a result at the bridge, move onwards and upwards.
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This is a walk in the park for Chavski
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We need to get to the end of the game. Take the lessons and move on quickly and not dwell. That's the players , management and fans. The next game is the most important one and a win against Spurs is very achieveable.
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Let's pretend we scored a goal...
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I'd be dissapointed if Guzan was beat there
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Stevie Ireland, 1st bit of play he's involved with is our best chance
Gar Neville "he might have been offside" he wasn't. Not even close, I like him as a commentatory but what is his problem today?
I am suprised I can hear him talk with Lampards cock in his mouth
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Really need an experienced quality centre half, left back and centre mid.
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Let's pretend we scored a goal...
Guzan....get innnnnnnnnnnnn
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Finally get the ball, and Bannan just twats it up the pitch again. Hopeless.
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I'm trying not to post angry stuff.
But this is such a reality check. We are still in real danger. Just three points off the drop zone with a very poor goal difference and all the teams around of us capable of picking up many wins.
Its chelsea away not Wigan at home . I know what you mean but Liverpoo was a bonus 3 pts for me anyway
I know but I was hoping we would keep it tight, our goal difference was bad going into this. That bloody 18th spot is wide open right now.
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Baker looks like his confidence has dropped, he's all over the shop. I think Bennett has looked a lot better than lichaj though.
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Christ Baker that is awful defending.
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Where is Ron!!?? We need you Ron..!!
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Let's pretend we scored a goal...
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Handball! Handball! Handball!
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Get in!
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Weimann just touched the ball.
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I'm trying not to post angry stuff.
But this is such a reality check. We are still in real danger. Just three points off the drop zone with a very poor goal difference and all the teams around of us capable of picking up many wins.
Its chelsea away not Wigan at home . I know what you mean but Liverpoo was a bonus 3 pts for me anyway
I know but I was hoping we would keep it tight, our goal difference was bad going into this. That bloody 18th spot is wide open right now.
Beat Yids at home and this result will be forgotten .
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Bloody hell, they could have had about ten. They've always got a man over in the full back positions. This sort of game is exactly why is thought 352 was dead.
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-13 gd now!!,No disgrace losing to Chelsea , just a shame we have allowed them to much space and respect.
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at 0-0 it would have been given
it was not a free kick
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Unbeaten run over then. Six games, thats not bad, and at least we're not losing to a poor side.
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Would you take a fifth goal for Chelsea if we could get a other one too?
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5-0
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gooall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yessss
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5-0
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Sighs.
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Absolute confidence killer
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oh to them
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We look like the team who's tired. They are quicker on the ball and making us look really poor.
Ireland has contributed nothing and our two on form strikers are woeful today
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Would you take a fifth goal for Chelsea if we could get a other one too?
I'd take a fifth if we could have a shot.
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Unbeaten run over then. Six games, thats not bad, and at least we're not losing to a poor side.
But we're losing pretty badly
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Would you take a fifth goal for Chelsea if we could get a other one too?
yes!
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There's no excuse for this.
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5-0 terrible again.
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I know Guzan can't be blamed for today but I wonder if lambert will bring given back in on Wednesday .
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They can afford to stick on untried youngsters and then get another...arrgh!
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Oh, feck off Chelski.
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Chalk this one down to tactical naivety from a manager who is learning and a young side.
Oh and Chelsea have some okayish players.....wankers.
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Must admit didnt think this would happen today. Fancied us to nick something.
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god i hope swansea have a good couple of games against this lot.
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Absolute confidence killer
It's what a lot of people thought about Man City. This is our first defeat since then.
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Can we have full time now. Bin this one and move on. Why does this always happen when were are on Sky?
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Chelsea have been excellent today
I wonder if he will rotate things a bit for the next game, just to freshen up legs if anything
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Next goal is important but I'd settle for a point here.
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I think my stream is 30 seconds behind the action. How many times have they exploited the space between baker and lichaj / Bennett? Must be about 10 times.
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The Man City game was bad but we could hold on the the ridiculous penalty decisions. The scoreline wasn't a fair reflection of the game.
This is just humiliation though. Could easily be 8 or 9 by this point.
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Wow, that new arsehole we needed has well and truly been torn for us
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Come on Dowd, you fat twat. Blow your whistle.
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Leaving it a bit late to get a draw now!
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Seeing the plastic supporting chavski fans tomorrow will do my head in especially when the c unts say what you expect when you dont spend no money . arrogant twats
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I know Guzan can't be blamed for today but I wonder if lambert will bring given back in on Wednesday .
It'd be utter madness if he did, Guzan has been our only good player.
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Green is wetting himself - probably because we duffed up his beloved Liverpool last week.
Chelsea v good Villa v bad today. Imperfect storm.
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I know Guzan can't be blamed for today but I wonder if lambert will bring given back in on Wednesday .
Why would he, its the defence in front of him that's the problem today
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Penalty, so should be 6 now.
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-13 gd now!!,No disgrace losing to Chelsea , just a shame we have allowed them to much space and respect.
It's the goal difference that worries me.
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fuck off pen
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Ah Chris Herd gives away a pen. Rubbish.
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Pathetic by Herd.
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Fuck off.
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Anyone else see the smile on that fat ****** face as he blew for that?
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GD just got tonked
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turned off
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harsh pen and the commentar is a wanker too
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And there it is. The softest Penalty they will get all season. Fuck off Dowd.
That's it for me fellas. Can't watch anymore. Happy Xmas to you all.
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Thing is it is harsh, but why put your hand on him?
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Someone needs to tell Herd that Movember is over.
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well we would never have got that pen
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What now? 7,8,9?
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NEVER a pen!!!!
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i think it was a pen
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Come on lads - pull yer socks up and get those equalisers!!!!
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Jaysus H. This is shite. First time the Chav fans sing all game and it's to suggest we should have gone xmas shopping. I hate Chavski.
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I turned the sound off earlier after the commentator said something along the lines that if Villa beat Bradford they'll face Chelsea in the final. Er, what about Swansea?
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Well this is a bit shit isnt it?
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Looking like eight at this rate
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shocking decision from dowd, harsh anyway, already 5 -0 where's the fucking need, it was at most 50-50
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Bollocks. Bullocks bollocks bollocks. Naively from herd there. Herd and baker will have nightmares tonight. Horribly exposed. We seem to be playing 3 forwards!?!
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Yep , lets forget today and move on - merry Xmas to you all lads !
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shocking decision from dowd, harsh anyway, already 5 -0 where's the fucking need, it was at most 50-50
It wasn't shocking really, very naive from Herd.
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Is this a 100k a goal charity match and the real one is later?
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Please, please make it stop.
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Herd, I have serious doubts about.
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Holy cow. Perspective and everything aside but this is crazy. Thank goodness our next game is only a few days away because we need to forget this as quickly as possible.
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We look like the team who's tired. They are quicker on the ball and making us look really poor.
Ireland has contributed nothing and our two on form strikers are woeful today
Ireland who put the through ball in , the closest we have come to scoring .
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Herd, I have serious doubts about.
He's not very good.
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Green just saying it could have been double figures with such glee.
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7-0
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Holy cow. Perspective and everything aside but this is crazy. Thank goodness our next game is only a few days away because we need to forget this as quickly as possible.
Young team or not this has been diabolical. 7-0.
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We knew it'd be up and down thud season.
I don't think the players will be too despondent to be honest. Neither should we. Compare the costs of the team.
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7
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wankers
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shocking decision from dowd, harsh anyway, already 5 -0 where's the fucking need, it was at most 50-50
It was soft but it was from behind. Bet we wouldn't have been given it though
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I expected to lose, but this is fucking humilating
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We're such a poor side I can't see us staying up this season.
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Bastards
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Come on lads - pull yer socks up and get those equalisers!!!!
I am starting to think we won't qualify for the champions league at all this season.
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Young team or not, 7 nil is a fucking disgrace.
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Herd is not up to it.
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It gets worse.
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Our players have given up now. It's so sad to see. I think this is a pivotal moment in our season. Can't see the players coming back from this. More misery against Spurs I'm afraid.
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Sometimes I hate the curse my dad passed on to me
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I feel for the lads who traveled down there today. I feel like crap from three thousand miles away.
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Training on Christmas day please.
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Herd, I have serious doubts about.
He's not very good.
He's not bad either. Apart from Guzan, the whole team have been poor today.
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Christ. What a horrible start to Christmas.
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Might re-enforce to those concerned that we need a bit of experience coming in in next transfer window.
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shocking decision from dowd, harsh anyway, already 5 -0 where's the fucking need, it was at most 50-50
It wasn't shocking really, very naive from Herd.
It was because there's been 7-8 tackles like that in the game that haven't been free kicks.
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No mercy eh?...not nice..They'll send Cech up now..
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Gotta feel for the fans who spent so much to watch this today.
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Herd, I have serious doubts about.
He's not very good.
He's not bad either. Apart from Guzan, the whole team have been poor today.
He is never good enough to start for our side in any position though.
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This is shocking now. It seems once our lot lose their heads we go completely to shit. Happened at Southampton, Man City and now today. Youth is great when it's doing well, but a complete nightmare at the other end of the spectrum.
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Most worrying is that it could easily have been far far more , Chelsea have missed a few sitters and Guzan has made some good saves too.
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Whatever goodwill was in the bank last week, just evaporated, this is a disgraceful performance.
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We look like the team who's tired. They are quicker on the ball and making us look really poor.
Ireland has contributed nothing and our two on form strikers are woeful today
Ireland who put the through ball in , the closest we have come to scoring .
I must have blinked, I didn't see a through ball that even looked like a scoring chsnce
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The penalty was the game changer...
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this could get embarrassing
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We've conceded 7 goals and Guzan has been our best player. What does that say about the other 10 useless bastards.
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this could get embarrassing
I think it's well past that.
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I REALLY hope this doesn't shatter our young lads.
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shocking decision from dowd, harsh anyway, already 5 -0 where's the fucking need, it was at most 50-50
It was soft but it was from behind. Bet we wouldn't have been given it though
We'd have had to get into their penalty area first.
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Clark just passes to Oscar.
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this could get embarrassing
Could?
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I REALLY hope this doesn't shatter our young lads.
Hopefully a couple of them will think about a career change.
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Herd, I have serious doubts about.
He's not very good.
He's not bad either. Apart from Guzan, the whole team have been poor today.
He is never good enough to start for our side in any position though.
Yes, Paul, I know you don't like him.
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I think this is the worst defeat in my 35 years watching villa., I remember 7-1 at Chelsea and 6-0 at forest.
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The penalty was the game changer...
Agreed.....Dowd cost us again the fat fuck.
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Thank goodness my link has gone. Its been pure car crash stuff.
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As Gary Neville noticed and Lambo did not, 5 at the back was utterly exposed by Benitez tactics.
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Its OK, Villa are just softening them up for Wembley when we'll come out all guns blazing ;D ;D
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Jesus Christ. We've fallen to pieces. Make it stop! I thought we might get tonked but I didn't think it would be this bad. It could easily have been ten or more.
I wonder of we'll stick with the the wingbacks v spurs. Could be a problem if bale and Lennon are on form. T
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This is shocking now. It seems once our lot lose their heads we go completely to shit. Happened at Southampton, Man City and now today. Youth is great when it's doing well, but a complete nightmare at the other end of the spectrum.
Exactly, we'll probably go and beat Spurs now
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this could get embarrassing
Could?
my bad humour
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Clark just passes to Oscar.
They require a map today.
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The penalty was the game changer...
Agreed.....Dowd cost us again the fat fuck.
Are you taking the piss?
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benteke offside . was that his first time
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Benteke has been offside more times than he's scored ffs
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Another penalty. So, when did we last lose 8-0?
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It's another pen and it is.
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another pen ffs
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Dowd in heaven giving yet another penalty. Tosser.
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Oh and about to be 8-0 now
Disgraceful, utterly utterly embarrassing
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lambert out
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Saved, ha. Nice one Brad.
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Saved Brad.
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I think this is the worst defeat in my 35 years watching villa., I remember 7-1 at Chelsea and 6-0 at forest.
We lost by a similar score to this lot a few years back. I undestand that this information doesn't make matters better and that you may have made efforts to forget it.
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thank fook for guzan
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wooo fucking get in Guzan Penalty king
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Oh, no, spoke too soon, we could make top 4 yet........me, fickle?
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That one looked a soft one to me.
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YESSSSSS!!!! GUZAAAAAN GUZAN GUZAN!
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Get in Brad!!!
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I'm surprised Cech didn't take the penalty.
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We're just lulling them into a false sense of security.
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Fuck me we're leaving it late.
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If it weren't for Guzan, it would quite easily have been 10.
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we will have them in the final ;)
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8-0.
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8 now
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Fuck me we're leaving it late.
Late post, but great post.
I had to step back into to see if we'd got one back. Wish I hadn't now. Awful.
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8-0, horrendous again.
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That's a club record...
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IM not going work tomorrow
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That one looked a soft one to me.
That was a dive, but not when its Villa and Dowd
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This is good for my fantasy team.
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The heaviest Villa defeat in my many many years as a fan. 8-0 is unbearable. Very very sad. Come on Randy. Show that you give a damn.
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Lets just please not go into meltdown at the final whistle, fellow H&Vers.
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Heaviest defeat in our history.
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Need to close my facebook account down
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This will finish us off this season. Thanks Lerner you useless fucking prick.
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Merry fucking Christmas. Absolutely shameful.
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Disgusting, thank god the Christmas programme will soon make this game a bit of a distant memory
I loathe and despise those chav tossers, worst possible result for me
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Fuck me we're leaving it late.
Haha!
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need to close my virgin media mobile account down tonight
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Worried this result will have a bad effect if we get them in the final- we could be beaten before we kick off.
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Horrible shit
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We now have the worst GD in the division, with really all -16 coming from 3 games; Southampton, Man City and today so far.
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I'm sorry. I know quite a lot of you have reconciled to what was likely to happen under PL, but it's not for me. We need to do something else, IMO. We will never live this down and I can't see our boys ever recovering. I hope I'm wrong.
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Ah sweet jayzuz..and the whistle is the only mercy we'll see today!
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Than fuck Brad saved the penalty or Chelsea would be pressing for double figures.
I look forward to Lambert's interview. "But we go again".
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What a difference a week makes.
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my sons just got home . Hes 7 . I cant tell him . Im gonna have to lie
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The next few days will be where Lambert will really need to earn his money- he will need to build confidence back again.
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This will finish us off this season. Thanks Lerner you useless fucking prick.
That has to win for the biggest over-reaction on the match thread.
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Embarrassing, spineless and inept
Yes its a young team, yes its a work in progress but this is nothing short of a disgrace
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Club record loss. Jesus.
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This is good for my fantasy team.
Not for mine. Every other fucker but Mata
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Worried this result will have a bad effect if we get them in the final- we could be beaten before we kick off.
they've already won it. 8-0 by Benitez FFS
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Thank you Lord!! Thanks!
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my sons just got home . Hes 7 . I cant tell him . Im gonna have to lie
Tell him we won 2-0 and then lock him in his room until the NY.
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when did we last lose by this much? gonna put a huge dent in the confidence
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If it's any consolation and it isn't, Arsenal conceded 8 at Old Trafford a couple of seasons back with a far more experienced and expensive team. We'll pick ourselves up from this.
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Anyone think Lambert will fall on his sword?
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when did we last lose by this much? gonna put a huge dent in the confidence
Never. Our new record defeat.
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Anyone think Lambert will fall on his sword?
Off course he won't. Today is a massively shit day but let's not lose all rational thought.
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This is good for my fantasy team.
Not for mine. Every other fucker but Mata
Yep me too
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Think I am going to take the night off from H&V. Might get into a spot of bother if I stick about.
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This will finish us off this season. Thanks Lerner you useless fucking prick.
Its posts like this that why fans are called fickle. We were crap today, but it wasn't Lerner's fault and I bet you weren't saying thislast week ;)
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Anyone think Lambert will fall on his sword?
Why should he?
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wrng thread
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Anyone think Lambert will fall on his sword?
Why should he?
I can't think why, now you've asked.
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Could be 5 or 6
shame it wasn't
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My 9 yr old now supports Chelsea again and has just been bollocked by my wife for teasing me.
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I thought that we had the better of the first minute or so.