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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on December 09, 2012, 02:15:02 PM
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Tuesday 11.12.12 KO 7:45pm
0-4 away win
Westwood 24
Bannan 43
Lichaj 68
Bent 76
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Heart says 2-1 win, head says 2-1 defeat as we never win there. On the plus side, the only time I can remember us winning there in the last 30 years was a LCQF.
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Win and would like to see a few changes to freshen things up :
Given
Herd Clark (capt) Baker
Lowton Westwood Ireland Bannan Delph
Bent Weimann
subs - Guzan Lichaj KEA Nzog (if fit) Benteke Holman Gabby
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Can see this one going to extra time. I imagine we'll stick with three at the back. Not sure I he'll make changes otherwise? Maybe rest bannan, gabby?
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I reckon Norwich will want to win this more than any match of the season.
It's going to be tough, but we've done well in the cup so far, so hopefully we can get another victory.
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Norwich win.
3-0
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2-1 to them.
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3-1 to Norwich, leaving us to concentrate on our relegation scrap.
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Wrong time (they are on form) and wrong team (with the Lambert association) so 3-1 to them I'm afraid
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I just can't see us doing this. I think we'll lose 3-0. I can't decide wherever I'd rather win this or win at Anfield.
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It's a really tough away game against one of the form teams in the country. We have a lot of spirit though and a new defensive resilience. If we can just find that spark up front we can do it. My heart says 1-0 to us. My head's not invited to vote.
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1-0 to us.
Ciaran Clark header beats the keeper but is punched away by Grant Holt (who is sent off).
Bentekes penalty is saved but he runs in to score on the rebound.
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When was the last time we lost to a side outside the top two? I think it was Fulham, which is a fair way back. So if we take it seriously I think we'll run them close.
But I'd prefer to win at Anfield next weekend.
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I think Westwood is cup tied (Bowery also) so need to change midfield - move Herd if Vlaar fit?
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A gutsy 2-1 villa win, possibly AET.
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Norwich 1-0 Villa
A Farmer
Am far more interested in the Liverpool game to be honest.
How sad...
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Lambert will want to win this a lot more than he will probably admit to. He will put out his strongest side. And with the way the defence played saturday, cannot see him changing much. Possibly Given and KEA if Westwood is cup-tied 0-1 Gabby ......
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Am a bit worried how much we need the likes of Westwood and Benteke in the team week in, week out. They're performing well but you do worry about burnout later in the season when so much is placed on their young shoulders.
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This will be close. I can see a late finish with a heartbreaking twist.
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Head says 2-0 them but heart says 1-0 Villa
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Never liked the carrot crunchers since they made comments about the Birmingham pub bombings, really hope we stuff em
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Am a bit worried how much we need the likes of Westwood and Benteke in the team week in, week out. They're performing well but you do worry about burnout later in the season when so much is placed on their young shoulders.
Westwood must have had a two month break from competitive football? Completely agree about Benteke
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I forgot Westwood was cup tied. Probably KEA for him; maybe Weimann in one of the front roles. Would be nice to think we could trust our £24m fwd to lead the line and give Benteke a rest, but not sure we can.
Given - herd Clark baker - Lowton kea delph lichaj - Ireland - weimann Benteke
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based on current form I can't see anything but a home win.
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With our inability to score goals, can't see anything other than a Norwich win. Frankly we don't really need this right now. Staying in the PL is a big enough challenge.
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2-1 Villla
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I've seen them a few times in this run when they could, and should have had their arses handed to them.
Well, we'll sort that out Tuesday. 4-1 Villa.
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I can't believe people are impying Liverpool is the bigger game. We surely have a better chance of winning at Norwich than Liverpool.
We are 2 games away from competing in a cup final to win something at Wembley. Go for it !
It surely aint the premiership or the cup. They aint exclusive of each other. We are not Albion.
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I take it Norwich have undersoil heating?
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I take it Norwich have undersoil heating?
They're eating Ready Break and shitting on the pitch.
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They are on a very good run and will be up for this one; we are difficult to beat but ultimately not very good at present so I see 0-0 at 90 minutes and that fat bastard Grant Holt to get the winner in extra time
Would like to see Given, Ireland and Bent given a run out and N'Zogbia if fit
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We'll win this one...they'll be all caught up in the "Lambert return, stick it to him" hype, whilst Benteke and Bent dismantle them over 90 mins...1-3 Villa
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Tuesday 11.12.12 KO 7:45pm
0-4 away win
Westwood 24
Bannan 43
Lichaj 68
Bent 76
They way we're playing we wont score 4 goals all season
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They're better at scoring goals than us - a Norwich win and the start of a tricky and frustrating Christmas period for us.
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Don't think we will be victorious in this. Presume Given, Bent, El Hamadi, Delph etc will play.
However I will not be too downhearted if we lose, we have a greater battle to win this season and extra cup matches may well impede this.
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2-1 Norwich win.
Given
Herd. Clark. Baker
Lowton. Ireland. Kea bannan lichaj
Weimann. Benteke
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head says a defeat.
either 1-0 Norwich in a drab game or 5-4 Norwich in a classic
Im not sure If they change their teams much for cup games .
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Westwood is cup tied.
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Im making the trip so they better win 2-1
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Will this be on telly at all?
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head says villa 1-0 win
heart says chicken bhuna and glass of beer
dick says Millie Clode in fishnets
Tough choice
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Will this be on telly at all?
The live game is Bradford v arsenal , highlights of villa game on weds night bbc 1 late I believe.
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Will this be on telly at all?
No, Sky have chosen to show Bradford v Arsenal so no live tv coverage. There will be highlights on the BBC's League Cup show on Wednesday night though.
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I've gone for a Villa win on pens. Both teams will make changes and it's a cup match so I don't think the form book can be relied upon.
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The way we're playing, I can't see us scoring never mind winning. How depressing
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I want us to win so bad but just can't see us getting a win so I will say 2-1 to Norwich.
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Well done Sky Bradford VS Arsenal reserves much better that all PL tie with ex manager returing to hostil reception ..FFS
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Can see them beating us - 2-1 or 3-1 would be my punt
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If either Bennett or Stevens are back I'd bring them in and give Lowton a rest. Move Lichaj over or else play Herd there. Norwich only play with one up top and Hoolahan in behind. Might not be the game to go with 3 centre backs and Herd is comfortable at right back.
Thought Norwich looked tired towards the end of their last 2 games. Lambert going back to his former club so we wont be going down without a serious fight. Could be a shock win for us I reckon. Kea and Delph will start I reckon. Ireland, Benteke, gabby probably too. I'd drop Gabby for Weimann but can't see Lambert doing that
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I'd would'nt be changing the back four, they've done well since Vlaar has been out.
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Not lost in ten?
Ex-manager returning for the first game at previous club's ground?
Probability says heavy Villa win.
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How many villa going? I know we were given 4k but someone told me we had only sold 2.5?
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Which is the pub of choice for Norwich games?
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How many villa going? I know we were given 4k but someone told me we had only sold 2.5?
Which is still pretty good for Tues night, before Christmas, and in the back end of nowhere.
PS Actually I like Norwich as a city, and Carrow Road as a football ground.
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Villa win, and this crap we dont score what happened at Abu Man Shitty come on you Lions
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I don't think I will get to watch it. Have two things to go to tomorrow so hoping this will be a good omen. Didn't watch any of our Cup games this season and came to each of them in the dying minutes to see that we were on top.
3-1 Villa!
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How many villa going? I know we were given 4k but someone told me we had only sold 2.5?
2,787 sold.
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How many villa going? I know we were given 4k but someone told me we had only sold 2.5?
2,787 sold.
Really?
I booked 2 tickets this morning he said there was loads left and we were seated fairly central?
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Which is the pub of choice for Norwich games?
Compleat Angler was bang on last year, although that was a glorious Sunday in May, a few pints next to the river, lovely stuff
Not sure it will have the same feel tomorrow
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How many villa going? I know we were given 4k but someone told me we had only sold 2.5?
2,787 sold.
Really?
I booked 2 tickets this morning he said there was loads left and we were seated fairly central?
5 of us decided to go today.
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I want to us go for this big time. No messing about. No Moscow bollocks. Take the game to them and keep the pressure on. No half measures.
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Herd-Baker-Clark have more than enough to stop Holt. Hoolahan is struggling. Benteke or Weiman (if played) are key to our result tomorrow. I know they are in form but i just have a feeling we are going to win this. Come on Villa. I want to go to Wembley .....
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They are in terrific form and are a real force at their place, so I think they will probably win. However, when the pressure's off in the cup the lads do look a bit more fluent and less risk-averse when attacking - for reference, see Man City away - so we should hardly be totally hopeless here.
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Is this been shown anywhere in town? The Vine? Roccoco?
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Have a feeling this will go to penalties, more confident with Guzan facing them than Given so hope PL sticks with Brad for this.
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Not listed as being on at Roccoco..
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I saw Norwich's highlights against Swansea and I have to say they looked very good. Played with a lot of vibrancy but good quality too. Would be a great result to get through however we manage it.
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We should at least play better than we did against them at VP. 10 men or not that was a disgraceful performance.
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Have a feeling this will go to penalties, more confident with Guzan facing them than Given so hope PL sticks with Brad for this.
Penalties or not, I think he has to field his strongest team, and that means Guzan in goal
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There is a bit of me that will not be too disapointed to lose this one. We have such a thin squad and we are going to need everything we have to stay in the PL.
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How many villa going? I know we were given 4k but someone told me we had only sold 2.5?
2,787 sold.
Really?
I booked 2 tickets this morning he said there was loads left and we were seated fairly central?
As posted by WM police at the time.
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How many villa going? I know we were given 4k but someone told me we had only sold 2.5?
2,787 sold.
Really?
I booked 2 tickets this morning he said there was loads left and we were seated fairly central?
As posted by WM police at the time.
Yeah, and the ticket offfice were texting out late last week offering tickets.
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Even so 2787 is brilliant for a midweeker just before Xmas in Norwich. You're talking a 5 hour trip back to Brum after the game what with traffic etc so if it goes to ET and pens you're looking at 4am getting home !
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Is this been shown anywhere in town? The Vine? Roccoco?
I think you will struggle to find a pub anywhere showing this. They pick up foreign channel coverage, which seems to have no interest in anything other than Premier.
Looks like it will be good old fashioned radio commentary.
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Like to see Bent play up front with Benteke tonight.
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2-1 to us aet.
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2-2 full time. Villa to snatch it in extra time.
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Like to see Bent play up front with Benteke tonight.
Agree, with Gabby out wide. Have to take it to them. If N'Zogbia is fit I'd be tempted to start him too - the guy has loads of ability which has proved so frustrating, if only PL could get him playing at his maximum - he kept Wigan up with his 9 goals two seasons ago. I wish we had Hatem Ben Arfa of Newcastle, he's terrific attacking from midfield - N'Zogbia looked similar at Wigan - why can't he do it for us??
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Think we'll sneak a tight win here. We'll go 2 nil up in the first half, they'll press us like mad, score a late one and set us up for a sphincter twitching last last ten mins where we catch them on the break to make it 1-3.
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Bradford pitch is covered with a sheet but they are worried about the frost-with -5 tonight I hope their game is off and ours may replace it on sky - just a slim possibility at the moment.
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The game was talked about on Talksport this morning, although from the Norwich perspective. They went from 'putting Norwich as favourites' to talking about could they get to the final and who they would like in the semi. Basically totally ignoring us and writing us off, despite some decent recent form.
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The game was talked about on Talksport this morning, although from the Norwich perspective. They went from 'putting Norwich as favourites' to talking about could they get to the final and who they would like in the semi. Basically totally ignoring us and writing us off, despite some decent recent form.
That's annoying. I would put them as favourites, but it's not Barca-Brentford, both sides have a more than decent chance of winning.
Mind you, Talksport are a collection of barely sentient, evolutionarily-subnormal ape-twats, so I don't mind what they say too much.
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The game was talked about on Talksport this morning, although from the Norwich perspective. They went from 'putting Norwich as favourites' to talking about could they get to the final and who they would like in the semi. Basically totally ignoring us and writing us off, despite some decent recent form.
Will be interesting to see whether both sides put out their strongest sides or make a few changes.
Norwich will be favourites but nowhere near to the degree man city were and we know what happened there.
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The game was talked about on Talksport this morning, although from the Norwich perspective. They went from 'putting Norwich as favourites' to talking about could they get to the final and who they would like in the semi. Basically totally ignoring us and writing us off, despite some decent recent form.
Will be interesting to see whether both sides put out their strongest sides or make a few changes.
Norwich will be favourites but nowhere near to the degree man city were and we know what happened there.
The bookies have Norwich as surprisingly clear favourites. They are at evens compared to our 11-4. Not a bad old bet really
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I can agree with Norwich being favourites, but I'd say it's pretty close and our form has also taken a recent upturn - 1 goal conceded in 4 games since we got a tonking at Man City.
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They were favourites when we played them in the quarter final replay on a Tuesday night at Carrow Road. The Villa fans turned up in great numbers, drank the place dry, sang their hearts out and watched us beat the Canaries.
To all going tonight, enjoy yourselves.
Norwich 0 Villa 2 (Vlaar and Clark)
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We need a win for two reasons. Obviously firstly it'd be great to get to a cup semi, but secondly we need to start getting the feeling of winning games in order to translate that into league form. They're favourites but it's a very winnable game if we perform. Not having Westwood is a big loss, but I hope Bent plays and scores.
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Looks like a night glued to the wireless chaps.
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Will they have a decent crowd? 3000 noisy Villa fans will create a great atmosphere.
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I was supposed to be going today but had to pull out. Had a phone call for a 2nd interview for a job I really want! 2 hour presentation to do instead.
Will be there in spirit and cheering the lads on via the radio instead. Come on you Lions!
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I was supposed to be going today but had to pull out. Had a phone call for a 2nd interview for a job I really want! 2 hour presentation to do instead.
Good luck !
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Randy has flown in for this one apparently
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Randy has flown in for this one apparently
He is obviously porking Delia then. :o
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I was supposed to be going today but had to pull out. Had a phone call for a 2nd interview for a job I really want! 2 hour presentation to do instead.
Will be there in spirit and cheering the lads on via the radio instead. Come on you Lions!
I hope the subject of the presentation is why you shouldn't put your career ahead of the Villa?
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Police not allowing any coaches into Norwich till after 5. Social coach is sitting in a lay by outside the city.
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very, very foggy here in Cambridgeshire...
be careful..
UTV
The Doc
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Randy has flown in for this one apparently
He is obviously porking Delia then. :o
no , he will be running after her , round the kitchen table, in his claret and blue elephant thong shouting lets be having you.
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I was supposed to be going today but had to pull out. Had a phone call for a 2nd interview for a job I really want! 2 hour presentation to do instead.
Will be there in spirit and cheering the lads on via the radio instead. Come on you Lions!
Pah! Pathetic! Call youself a fan!?!?!?!?
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I was supposed to be going today but had to pull out. Had a phone call for a 2nd interview for a job I really want! 2 hour presentation to do instead.
Will be there in spirit and cheering the lads on via the radio instead. Come on you Lions!
Pah! Pathetic! Call youself a fan!?!?!?!?
good luck with the interview ;)
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Randy has flown in for this one apparently
He is obviously porking Delia then. :o
no , he will be running after her , round the kitchen table, in his claret and blue elephant thong shouting lets be having you.
More likely it will be her shouting 'where are you '?- he's rarely seen or heard from these days.
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Not having Westwood is a big blow, someone is going to have to step up.
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I'm in the Peterborough area and we have freezing fog and black ice on some local roads, as someone said, take care.
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what is the difference between Delia Smith and a Cross Country run?
One is a pant in the country.
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Police not allowing any coaches into Norwich till after 5. Social coach is sitting in a lay by outside the city.
Human rights abuse!
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The weather forecast seems quite bad and already below freezing with fog coming down - anyone in the Norwich area who can give us an idea of whether the game could be in doubt?
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I hope not for all the lads and lasses that are travelling all that way!
2-0 to the villa
Come on you lions!
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I've just got a text from a mate saying he's heard a rumour it's going to be called off. I have no idea how substantial that is though. Fingers crossed for those that made the trip (and a small smile for myself as my lift fell through and I couldn't go).
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Just arrived at my hotel in Norwich. Norwich is clear and about 3 degrees outside. I did fear a problem earlier today as Suffolk and Cambs was covered in thick fog but it's as clear as can be outside at the moment.
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That's good news, I shall have to console myself by listening to the match with Jack Woodward :(
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Just arrived at my hotel in Norwich. Norwich is clear and about 3 degrees outside. I did fear a problem earlier today as Suffolk and Cambs was covered in thick fog but it's as clear as can be outside at the moment.
Thanks for the update, lets hope bradford game is off and they show villa instead !
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http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/warning_to_drivers_over_wintry_conditions_after_spate_of_crashes_1_1738450
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But those travelling to and from Carrow Road this evening for Norwich City’s Capital One cup clash against Aston Villa shouldn’t have too many problems.
Phil Garner, from Norwich-based Weatherquest, said: “It’s going to be cold this evening but it will be dry and clear all the way through the game.
“The air is just so dry at the moment that there won’t be ice or frost and the paths and pavements running up to the ground will be ok.”
He continued: “Temperatures during the game will fall close to below freezing so a good scarf, hat and thick coat are in order for those going to Carrow Road tonight. But hopefully there will be enough excitement to keep the fans warm.”
Pet hate of mine. Weather forecasters treating people like 6 years olds and telling them how to dress !
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In London, it's freezing and foggy, not that this has any relevance whatsoever.
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But those travelling to and from Carrow Road this evening for Norwich City’s Capital One cup clash against Aston Villa shouldn’t have too many problems.
Phil Garner, from Norwich-based Weatherquest, said: “It’s going to be cold this evening but it will be dry and clear all the way through the game.
“The air is just so dry at the moment that there won’t be ice or frost and the paths and pavements running up to the ground will be ok.”
He continued: “Temperatures during the game will fall close to below freezing so a good scarf, hat and thick coat are in order for those going to Carrow Road tonight. But hopefully there will be enough excitement to keep the fans warm.”
Pet hate of mine. Weather forecasters treating people like 6 years olds and telling them how to dress !
be sure to wrap up warm mate
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But those travelling to and from Carrow Road this evening for Norwich City’s Capital One cup clash against Aston Villa shouldn’t have too many problems.
Phil Garner, from Norwich-based Weatherquest, said: “It’s going to be cold this evening but it will be dry and clear all the way through the game.
“The air is just so dry at the moment that there won’t be ice or frost and the paths and pavements running up to the ground will be ok.”
He continued: “Temperatures during the game will fall close to below freezing so a good scarf, hat and thick coat are in order for those going to Carrow Road tonight. But hopefully there will be enough excitement to keep the fans warm.”
Pet hate of mine. Weather forecasters treating people like 6 years olds and telling them how to dress !
be sure to wrap up warm mate
Otherwise you'll catch your death.
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Just past Cambridge and the fog is easing, was a lot denser closer to home!
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In London, it's freezing and foggy, not that this has any relevance whatsoever.
In my living room the central hearing is on and I have a warm mug of tea and I'm moving no further than the kitchen/bog/radio between now and full time, not that this has any relevance whatsoever.
Come on the Villa !
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But those travelling to and from Carrow Road this evening for Norwich City’s Capital One cup clash against Aston Villa shouldn’t have too many problems.
Phil Garner, from Norwich-based Weatherquest, said: “It’s going to be cold this evening but it will be dry and clear all the way through the game.
“The air is just so dry at the moment that there won’t be ice or frost and the paths and pavements running up to the ground will be ok.”
He continued: “Temperatures during the game will fall close to below freezing so a good scarf, hat and thick coat are in order for those going to Carrow Road tonight. But hopefully there will be enough excitement to keep the fans warm.”
Pet hate of mine. Weather forecasters treating people like 6 years olds and telling them how to dress !
be sure to wrap up warm mate
Otherwise you'll catch your death.
And make sure you pull your hat down over your ears to keep the heat in.
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In London, it's freezing and foggy, not that this has any relevance whatsoever.
In my living room the central hearing is on and I have a warm mug of tea and I'm moving no further than the kitchen/bog/radio between now and full time, not that this has any relevance whatsoever.
Come on the Villa !
Salmon parcel in the oven, bottle of advocaat at the ready and counting down to kick off - cant wait!
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i've just got back from holiday this morning,
so i will be watching the match thread and putting the tree up as we stroll into the semi final
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In London, it's freezing and foggy, not that this has any relevance whatsoever.
In my living room the central hearing is on and I have a warm mug of tea and I'm moving no further than the kitchen/bog/radio between now and full time, not that this has any relevance whatsoever.
Come on the Villa !
Salmon parcel in the oven, bottle of advocaat at the ready and counting down to kick off - cant wait!
Balti in the slow cooker, beer in the fridge and radio 5 live xtra at the ready. Come on you Villa boys.
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Please tell me someone's going to have reggae reggae chicken at half time or we're doomed.
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But those travelling to and from Carrow Road this evening for Norwich City’s Capital One cup clash against Aston Villa shouldn’t have too many problems.
Phil Garner, from Norwich-based Weatherquest, said: “It’s going to be cold this evening but it will be dry and clear all the way through the game.
“The air is just so dry at the moment that there won’t be ice or frost and the paths and pavements running up to the ground will be ok.”
He continued: “Temperatures during the game will fall close to below freezing so a good scarf, hat and thick coat are in order for those going to Carrow Road tonight. But hopefully there will be enough excitement to keep the fans warm.”
Pet hate of mine. Weather forecasters treating people like 6 years olds and telling them how to dress !
be sure to wrap up warm mate
Otherwise you'll catch your death.
And make sure you pull your hat down over your ears to keep the heat in.
Remember to take your hat and coat off in the pub though, else you won't feel the benefit when you go outside.
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If I'm not able to find the game on......hmmmmmmm......... "Teletext" (nod, nod, wink, wink), then it'll be R5 Sports Extra whilst also reading the Danny Baker book
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If I'm not able to find the game on......hmmmmmmm......... "Teletext" (nod, nod, wink, wink), then it'll be R5 Sports Extra whilst also reading the Danny Baker book
I think I'll plump for wm ahead of sports xtra with Woodward as an emergency last resort.
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just a quick thought,
wouldnt Stans 19th minuet sound and look great at Wemberley
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Randy has flown in for this one apparently
His jet landed at Birmingham at 08.10 hours yesterday morning, and left after 13.00 hours today.
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Cold out?
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If I'm not able to find the game on......hmmmmmmm......... "Teletext" (nod, nod, wink, wink), then it'll be R5 Sports Extra whilst also reading the Danny Baker book
Since they took away Ceefax looking around for a decent teletext service has been a massive ballache.
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Cant see us getting any joy there, with the way Norwich are playing recentlythey will be full of confidence.
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I've just let my heart rule my head and had a flutter on us to go through. I think it may go beyond 90 minutes though, maybe even Guzan the penalty hero again.
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Cold out?
Randy has flown in for this one apparently
His jet landed at Birmingham at 08.10 hours yesterday morning, and left after 13.00 hours today.
Perhaps he's just dropped Robbie Keane off at BH
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Respect to this Norwich fan .
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/petrov.jpg)
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I retweeted that earlier.
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Bent starts
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Given, Clark, El Ahmadi, Bent, Holman, Delph, Benteke, Lichaj, Herd, Baker, Lowton. Subs: Guzan, N’Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Albrighton, Bannan, Weimann, Williams.
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A post in the post-match thread. That's it, we're doomed!
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I GOT THAT WRONG :-))))
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Tuesday 11.12.12 KO 7:45pm
0-4 away win
Westwood 24
Bannan 43
Lichaj 68
Bent 76
Not bad on the prediction, but to not get ANY of the scorers when we score 4 takes some doing! ;)