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Title: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: willywombat on November 26, 2012, 07:37:28 AM
Been browsing the, 'Players you thought would make it, who didn't',  thread and got to thinking about those players you thought were no-hopers who turned it around and made the grade. Peter Withe for me, journeyman striker with average stamped all over him, massively underwhelmed when we signed him but.....
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 26, 2012, 08:13:41 AM
I thought Allan Evans would just be a fringe player and probably move on after a year or two.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: Pat McMahon on November 26, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
I agree with both of you re Withe and Evans.

For me Kenny Swain as a utility forward player was very so-so. He matured into an excellent full back.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: PGW on November 26, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
Out of that team you could add Des Bremner to the list.....sheer quality as it turned out!!
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: olaftab on November 26, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
When I heard Ron had signed Withe word donkey came straight to my mind. Just couldn't  understand where as we had Andy Gray  we  will now have a journey man who was only good enough to play for Small Heath. How wrong was I pleased to say!

I also didn't think Cahill would be as good as he is. I thought he was another Ridgewell ...oh hang on that's a top 4 full back I am treating with disrespect!
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 26, 2012, 06:26:16 PM
Ken McNaught
Ugu Ehogu
John Robson
Mike Pejic
Andy Lochead
Ray Graydon

Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: montague on November 26, 2012, 09:52:21 PM
David Platt was a big surprise.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2012, 09:53:58 PM
Been browsing the, 'Players you thought would make it, who didn't',  thread and got to thinking about those players you thought were no-hopers who turned it around and made the grade. Peter Withe for me, journeyman striker with average stamped all over him, massively underwhelmed when we signed him but.....

And for half a million quid when our record at the time was £300k.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: villan from luton on November 26, 2012, 10:00:46 PM
Have said it before, but Des Bremners debut was absolutely awful, didnt look as if he had ever seen a football before in his life.

Thought Tony Morley was a desperation signing, and wondered why the feck we had bought an average keeper in Jimmy Rimmer 
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: TopDeck113 on November 28, 2012, 06:43:41 PM
That crocked Irish bloke who turned up at the Villa after being drummed out of Old Trafford for being a piss-head.  What ever happened to him?
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: Ron Manager on November 28, 2012, 06:51:48 PM
Been browsing the, 'Players you thought would make it, who didn't',  thread and got to thinking about those players you thought were no-hopers who turned it around and made the grade. Peter Withe for me, journeyman striker with average stamped all over him, massively underwhelmed when we signed him but.....

And for half a million quid when our record at the time was £300k.
Never forgotten the first time I noticed Peter Withe . He was playing for Wolves and turned Emlyn Hughes inside out out with a piece of skill
that surprised me it was that good.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: curiousorange on December 02, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
Didn't Freddie Bouma get torn a new one by Yossi Benayoun at West Ham on his Villa debut? He went on to be a fan favourite, at least.

Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 09, 2012, 08:14:22 PM
Tommy Johnson didn't impress me initially. I think we bought him as a left sided striker but he settled beautifully into the position behind Yorke and Savo in our 3-5-2 period and became a big fan favourite.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: oldham_villa on January 07, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
I thought Derek Mountfield had a very shaky start to his Villa career. I knew he was a good player from Everton and this thankfully began to show itself.

Alan McInally looked awful when he first came. I remember this attempt at a bicycle kick within the 6yd box at Oldham, and the howls of derision when he missed it completely. Had a great half season the following year and then looked handy for Bayern.

I'm not sure any of us would have realised how great a player Dwight Yorke would go on to become, probably my favourite Villa striker I'm the last 20 years
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: LeeB on January 07, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
I thought Derek Mountfield had a very shaky start to his Villa career. I knew he was a good player from Everton and this thankfully began to show itself.

Alan McInally looked awful when he first came. I remember this attempt at a bicycle kick within the 6yd box at Oldham, and the howls of derision when he missed it completely. Had a great half season the following year and then looked handy for Bayern.

I'm not sure any of us would have realised how great a player Dwight Yorke would go on to become, probably my favourite Villa striker I'm the last 20 years

Agree with all of those mate, remember seeing Dwight's debut in a shit defeat at Palace, complete with a nightmare journey from hell, and not being impressed.

Craig Gardner was pretty woeful when he first came in to the team.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: Charlie8182 on January 07, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Despite the press telling us about his love for Villa, I was pretty underwhelmed when we signed Ian Taylor from Sheffield Wednesday.  You could say that he did pretty well for us.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: E I Adio on January 14, 2013, 04:31:16 PM
I remember Ken McNaught was pretty impressive in the '77 League Cup final(s) playing for Everton, so I was very happy when he came to Villa Park.

Unfortunately, he was pretty much a disaster in his first season with us and it was hard to see how he even made the team. It took him a whole season to settle in and become a legend.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: Grande Pablo on January 14, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
Ugo in the 2-3 vs Norwich had a real mare, but became a Holte hero, even though he did chase the dream with Mouthgate afterwards.
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: willywombat on January 15, 2013, 12:16:50 AM
I remember Ken McNaught was pretty impressive in the '77 League Cup final(s) playing for Everton, so I was very happy when he came to Villa Park.

Unfortunately, he was pretty much a disaster in his first season with us and it was hard to see how he even made the team. It took him a whole season to settle in and become a legend.

Chris Nichol was a tough act to follow too
Title: Re: Players you thought weren't going to make it, who did
Post by: neo_Villan on January 15, 2013, 01:05:25 AM
I thought Angel was going to be a flop after his first season.
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