Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on November 16, 2012, 08:14:59 PM
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Available Saturday afternoon.
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Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar [c], Clark, Stevens, Westwood, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Benteke
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subs: Given, Albrighton, Holman, Delph, El Ahmadi, Bowery, Baker
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Ever get the feeling City are taking the piss?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A71NCmOCAAAkyEM.jpg)
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Exact same team that started against Manchester United then, and you wouldn't blame him for doing so.
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Ever get the feeling City are taking the piss?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A71NCmOCAAAkyEM.jpg)
Could have been worse, had it been Barry. Now that would be taking the piss.
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Coincidence though that he's on the front cover and they use the word lion for a game against us?
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Fair enough to start that team, especially if we don't have any full backs back. Come on you Villa boys!
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Hart, Kompany, Clichy, Nastasic, Maicon, Y Toure, Barry, Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez
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subs: Pantilimon, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kolarov, Sinclair, Garcia, Dzeko
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I have a horrible feeling about today
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Hart, Kompany, Clichy, Nastasic, Maicon, Y Toure, Barry, Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez
Forgive me for asking, but is that a team or a sentence in some exotic foreign language?
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Coincidence though that he's on the front cover and they use the word lion for a game against us?
I wouldn't put it past them.
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I have a horrible feeling about today
So do I now we've been jinxed by a post in the post-match thread. At least we know who to blame now.
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Could be a bad day if they are in the mood, but think they are pretty weak defensively.
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Could be a bad day if they are in the mood, but think they are pretty weak defensively.
Could be a good day if we're in the mood. We can get something up there. Given the antics of their manager and the mask you get the feeling things aren't all that great up there. If we go at them and quieten the crowd we can come away with a point or more. One thing we know is that we will go there to win and not just roll over as we have in recent years.
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I have a horrible feeling about today
Me too. They will want revenge.
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On the sofa watching the Arsenal game. Rugby starts soon. The suns blazing its effing hot and I've got a nice cold beer. Villa game on in just over half anhour. Surely nothing can go wrong and spoil my day?
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At least Balotelli isn't playing, not even on the bench
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Heart of a lion, arse in the stand. Again.
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i'm pleased to see Balotelli is not involved and i can't say i am disappointed that Milner not involved either.
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They will be looking to exploit Stephens' weaknesses. We should be looking to do the same with Maicon.
Gimme a birthday surprise please Villa.
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Heart of a lion, arse in the stand. Again.
Bravo!
Still a shame he went innit though.
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put £5 quid on Vlaar scoring today. Easy come, easy go!
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Ever get the feeling City are taking the piss?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A71NCmOCAAAkyEM.jpg)
I read it as they know his heart remains with the Lions of Aston Villa.
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We're going to win 2-1 nothing to worry about.
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They will be looking to exploit Stephens' weaknesses. We should be looking to do the same with Maicon.
Gimme a birthday surprise please Villa.
Happy Birthday!
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Heart of a lion, arse in the stand. Again.
*Like*
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i am worried about stevens again.
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They will be looking to exploit Stephens' weaknesses. We should be looking to do the same with Maicon.
Gimme a birthday surprise please Villa.
Happy Birthday!
Cheers our kid.
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Happy Birthday eamonn.
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They will be looking to exploit Stephens' weaknesses. We should be looking to do the same with Maicon.
Gimme a birthday surprise please Villa.
Happy Birthday and I sincerely hope you get your birthday wish !
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Ta, guys. Last time we played on my birthday was a bore 0-0 draw with Middlesboro under Gregory.
Would be delighted with that today to be honest.
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Just give it a good try at the very least.....
Happy with a point, absolutely over the moon with all three
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Villa out on the pitch.Look nice and relaxed.
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Hart, Kompany, Clichy, Nastasic, Maicon, Y Toure, Barry, Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez
Forgive me for asking, but is that a team or a sentence in some exotic foreign language?
It' a list of Amazonian villages.
Do Man City now use the front of their matchday programme to advertise players looking to leave the club?
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Oh and happy birthday, Eamonn.
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Come on Villa!
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Just seen their subs...we'll do well to get anything out of this, but let's give it a go!
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ManCity's recent form WWWWDW.
Villa win then.
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They will be looking to exploit Stephens' weaknesses. We should be looking to do the same with Maicon.
Gimme a birthday surprise please Villa.
Happy Birthday and I sincerely hope you get your birthday wish !
Indeed, hoping villa give you a birthday we can all remember Eamonn!
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Round of applause for Ireland from the Man City fans when is name was announced, which I didn't expect.
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They're looking to use Maicon a lot.
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Could be a long afternoon chaps...
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Afternoon. We're all over 'em.
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Have we been out our half yet?
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How did we not get a free-kick for the foul on Stevens from the corner?
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How was that not a foul on Stephens?
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Going to be a long game if it carriers on like this.
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Christ we are under the pump here.
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Benteke not holding up the ball there. Needs todo that better to giveusa break.
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This football pitch may as well only have one half at the moment.
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Baggies lead Chelsea.
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Reading 0-1 Everton- Steven Naismith
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Ireland's had a couple of bad touches already. It's panic stations in the midfield.
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Men against boys so far. On the rare occasion we have the ball we give it straight away.
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Doing well here,
especially in our own 6 yard box
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Is it half time yet?
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We have to get into this game.
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Men against boys so far. On the rare occasion we have the ball we give it straight away.
Indeed.
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Pathetic how many empty seats there are. They've won the league and have their best side for 40 years and still can't sell out for a 3pm KO?
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Good break. First shot from either teamfrom Benteke.
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Blimey a Villa attack!
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Possession 85-15!
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That was a chance, not the best use of it.
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Shame Gabby couldn't take that straight towards goal.
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I really hate this strategy and why does it always seem to be us employing it. I hate when we play a team that on paper is better but we simply go and let them have the ball. Have a real go at them something good could happen, yet so often we go and play the submissive. It is asking for trouble every time.
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Terrible first touch from Gabby there.
Ireland gives it away again by being completely limp in a challenge.
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Pathetic how many empty seats there are. They've won the league and have their best side for 40 years and still can't sell out for a 3pm KO?
Villa Park would be packed every week if we were in their shoes.
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That's what happens when we pass it - well played lads. How about more of it!!!
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unlucky. Who was off-side?
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Fuck how did that not go in
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Having a bit more joy now. Need to be more clinical though with these chances.
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I wish I could watch this game. If only there was some kind of way I could, if only there was some kind of system where some kind soul could....... well, you know....
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Who was off side there???
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That would have been criminal if it had gone in and been given for offside.
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Baggies beating Chelsea
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Blues losing at home to Hull :) Come on Villa!
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I wish I could watch this game. If only there was some kind of way I could, if only there was some kind of system where some kind soul could....... well, you know....
Why don't youfind a Man City fans forum? See if they know of a way...
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"Maicon still got the legs, even at 31 years of age...". Jesus wept. Wait til you're in your 40s.
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Is Nasri wearing gloves?
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19th minute approaching. No Respect will be sung, yes or no?
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Fuck. Nearly.
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So unlucky
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Hart saves from Benteke header. Very unlucky.
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Shit, what a save.
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Benteke! Eck, so close.
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Close from Benteke, great ball in.
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OOh shit! Decent save from Hart, good effort from Benteke!
Afternoon, all!
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Great cross from Stevens. Unlucky Benteke.
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Great head from Benteke and great save from Hart.
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Joe Hart to have his "I'm still world class" game against Villa?
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Nice cross from Enda.
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Considering how little of the ball we've seen we've come closest to scoring. It's a funny old game.
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I wish I could watch this game. If only there was some kind of way I could, if only there was some kind of system where some kind soul could....... well, you know....
Why don't youfind a Man City fans forum? See if they know of a way...
Or search twitter. To see if anybody is tweeting updates...
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It's not often you play a club where none of your players would get in their squad, let alone team, but that's what happens when you have money to burn.
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I keep hearing Weimann's name on the commentary for having done something wrong.
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Top ref.
The linesman is a bellend.
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I keep hearing Weimann's name on the commentary for having done something wrong.
Well, that's pretty much how he started against Man Utd, so it could be a good sign....
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Gabby gets his own back on Maicon. Lovely stuff.
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We're having some chances.
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Another half chance.
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I keep hearing Weimann's name on the commentary for having done something wrong.
He should have found Ireland on the edge of the box.
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We're having a bit more of the game now.
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Gabby. He ain't the cleverest, is he?
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Need to get the ball and run at Clichy before they can sub him.
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Ireland not got into the game yet.
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Some really really poor passes from us here, giving the ball back to them FAR too cheaply.
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Weimann been poor. Caught on his heels a couple of times giving away possession.
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Got to stop giving it away when we finally get the ball
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Southampton beating QPR.
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Mark Hughes must be heading for the local dole office if the score stays the same.
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Weimann been poor. Caught on his heels a couple of times giving away possession.
For me too. Showing his limitations as a midfielder perhaps. Bannan looks the most composed in our midfield.
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Real baptism of fire for Stevens against utd and city bit he has coped pretty well so far.
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Mark Hughes must be heading for the local dole office if the score stays the same.
I hope he stays there as long as possible. If they get someone who knows his arse from his elbow then so much the worse for us.
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I doubt we can soak this up for much longer.
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I know this is a very tough game but how deep are we?? It's barely half an hour gone.
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I see Mancini is on the naughty step.
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Mark Hughes must be heading for the local dole office if the score stays the same.
I hope he stays there as long as possible. If they get someone who knows his arse from his elbow then so much the worse for us.
To be honest I think it's more due to the failings of the squad then Hughes himself, but the uplift of a new manager would still be a threat to us.
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Mark Hughes must be heading for the local dole office if the score stays the same.
I hope he stays there as long as possible. If they get someone who knows his arse from his elbow then so much the worse for us.
Aye. Hughes In !
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Come on Gabby! Bloody hell! Caught on his heels there!
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Poor from Gabby, should have kept that in. Great ball as well by Vlaar
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Great ball from Vlaar, Gabby should have done better
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Weimann is having a mare here.
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Another poor ball from Weimann.
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Mark Hughes must be heading for the local dole office if the score stays the same.
I hope he stays there as long as possible. If they get someone who knows his arse from his elbow then so much the worse for us.
To be honest I think it's more due to the failings of the squad then Hughes himself, but the uplift of a new manager would still be a threat to us.
He has had enough money but hasnt bought any quality defenders
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Mark Hughes must be heading for the local dole office if the score stays the same.
Or back to his mansion with a very large cheque in his wallet?
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Mark Hughes must be heading for the local dole office if the score stays the same.
I hope he stays there as long as possible. If they get someone who knows his arse from his elbow then so much the worse for us.
To be honest I think it's more due to the failings of the squad then Hughes himself, but the uplift of a new manager would still be a threat to us.
He has had enough money but hasnt bought any quality
Fixed.
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Blues 3 - 0 down at home to Hull............
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Shit atmosphere
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Way too sloppy when we have the ball.
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Blues 3 - 0 down at home to Hull............
Lee Clarke doing a triffic job there. Just triffic.
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We really need Westwood, Bannan & Ireland to get a little time on the ball and get a few passes together for us, but currently we seem to be looking for the long ball over the top. Great if it comes off, but at the moment its just giving the ball right back to City.
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Hopefully we have learned from last week and we don't go 2-0 up until the 94th minute.
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Blues 3 - 0 down at home to Hull............
Christ that was fast.
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Does anyone know how much their team and our team cost?
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Lowton looks a really good signing .
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Had to be yellow.
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Cynical from Toure, how is that not a yellow?
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Fairly cynical that, from Toure. Probably deserved a yellow card, really.
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How the fuck is that not a yellow?
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Ireland looks like a white Mo Farah.
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fucking ref
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I wish I could watch this game. If only there was some kind of way I could, if only there was some kind of system where some kind soul could....... well, you know....
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Ireland looks like a white Mo Farah.
Yes! That's right!
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Cynical from Toure, how is that not a yellow?
Because he plays for one of of the favoured few - not that I'm bitter or cynical like
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Ireland looks like a white Mo Farah.
wait until dunne comes back, he now looks like a male Mo Mowlam
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Well, we've shown that we CAN get at them if we try, so there's hope.
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Up to 38% possession.
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Apparently we haven't conceded a first half goal since August in the league.
Second half is where we seem to concede a lot though - I wonder at what point dzeko comes into the fray?
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Fucksticks
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Enda Stevens really isn't too bad a player, it seems to me. He's got a good cross on him and a decent eye for a forward pass, too. Not a bad start he's made.
Aaaaaaand bollocks.
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The commentators favouring villa i think
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How predictable.
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are you kidding me? fuck off.
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For fucks sake. What a scrappy little piece of shit of a goal to concede.
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Shit. Scrappy goal as well
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Fucking great. Was that even a corner? ******.
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tut
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Fucksticks
What did I ever do to you?
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A foul when the Villa player tried to head it away?
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Well that was coming, bad defending. Can't see any hope for us really now.
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Didn't look like a corner to me
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Apparently we haven't conceded a first half goal since August in the league.
Second half is where we seem to concede a lot though - I wonder at what point dzeko comes into the fray?
big mouth
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Oh well. We come out to play now.
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Apparently we haven't conceded a first half goal since August in the league.
Thanks for that mate.
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Fucking great. Was that even a corner? c***s.
Guzan saved it.
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ah well cant sit back now
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Passing is terrible
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Didn't look like a corner to me
On my, ummmmmm......... "Teletext", it looked like Brad got a touch
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I fear we are going to take a pasting now.
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Didn't look like a corner to me
Nor me but the players didn't complain
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Yeah we don't really look like we've got any chance now.
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Southampton n2-0 up now.
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Well that's that then,just a case of how many now.
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I suppose now we're either going to get tanked or nick a draw.
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Only way we are going to get anything out of this game is to stop giving the ball away on the odd occasion we get it.
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I fear we are going to take a pasting now.
Yes, or just a mere 2-0 routine home victory.
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Very hard to see us getting back into this now-city are looking dangerous .
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It'll be the reverse of last week. They'll get a quick goal after the break and we'll then score three
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Only way we are going to get anything out of this game is to stop giving the ball away on the odd occasion we get it.
Indeed this is piss poor really.
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It would help if we could string a pass together.
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I think Lambo was happy to play like that all game while it was 0-0 but we were unlikely to keep them out all game. Lets see what plan b has to offer.
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No needto change anything. Yes the pressure is off them now but keep it tight and try and nick one on the break. we've had a couple of chances, will just have to take one.
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five shots on target each according to HT stats
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Be interesting what Lambert changes as the signs are there that goals can be scored against them.
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Keep your chins up! No-one gave us any chance (including us) when we went 1 down in the league cup!
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Look at all the goals we've conceded against Man City in the last 2/3 years, they ALWAYS score a goal from a corner, winning the 2nd ball inside the 6 yard box.
Wiemann was ball watching as two players ran past him. I don't think he is suitable playing in that right wing/striker role away from home, defensively his position is poor, not ideal when the opposition has almost 70% of the ball.
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It'll be the reverse of last week. They'll get a quick goal after the break and we'll then score three
Is Jordan Bowery our Chicharito?
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it looked like a foul to me a few bobbles before the ball went in.
Not that much different to last week in truth. We actually look threatening on the few occasions we have been at the other end, the defenders have looked solid enough but there's little going on between the two.
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We've got too many players under-performing today. Too many passes going astray, too many poor first touches.
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I'd get Holman on for Weinman
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I'd get Holman on for Weinman
This
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I'd be tempted to take Weimann off. Doesn't suit him to play where he is when we're under so much constant pressure.
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I'd get Holman on for Weinman
Or maybe I should have waited a few more seconds before posting and just said "this"
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Weimann might nick a goal, Holman almost certainly won't.
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Then again Holman might pass to a bloke wearing the same colour shirt.
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What annoys me is that when we play the champions league teams they never actually need to play all that well to beat us. It's always scrappy goals and individual mistakes that cost us. City have looked a bit out of sorts to me today. Yes, they have obvious class all over the pitch but as a team they don't look frightening.
Bannan's played OK (composed under pressure) and the full backs don't look too bad - we look a threat when countering with Benteke lurking and Gabbys running. Weimann isn't a winger and it's showed today and he's given the ball away by picking the wrong pass countless times.
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Just calculating the costs of the teams and the difference is frightening:
Our team: £26.45m (£38.95m including subs)
Man City: £175.7m (£275.2m including subs)
Got my info from transferleague.co.uk
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Holmann is prone to going on dead-end runs and eventually losing possession though. I'd consider Delph or El Ahmadi to give us a bit more steel and to help aid ball retention.
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Delph? Nooooooo
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Then again Holman might pass to a bloke wearing the same colour shirt.
He more likely to run around like the Duracell rabbit and do exactly nothing worthwhile.
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I'd be tempted to bring KEA on for Weimann, drop Gabby deeper and play 4-5-1 to stifle them a bit more but still have Benteke and Gabby to threaten
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Only just got in - how are we doing? Surprised it's only 1-0!
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Holmann is prone to going on dead-end runs and eventually losing possession though. I'd consider Delph or El Ahmadi to give us a bit more steel and to help aid ball retention.
We're already losing. I'd rather have players on who are going to score.
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Then again Holman might pass to a bloke wearing the same colour shirt.
He more likely to run around like the Duracell rabbit and do exactly nothing worthwhile.
Distinctly possible. Shows our lack of options right now. I just think Weimann will struggle where he is when we're under the cosh so much.
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Holmann is prone to going on dead-end runs and eventually losing possession though. I'd consider Delph or El Ahmadi to give us a bit more steel and to help aid ball retention.
We're already losing. I'd rather have players on who are going to score.
Then again those 2 have the best pass completion percentage at the club. Do you go for the fellas who may score or the ones who may be able to help create the chances? Times like this i'm glad i'm an armchair manager.
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When did we last have a penalty? Just wondering.
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Holmann is prone to going on dead-end runs and eventually losing possession though. I'd consider Delph or El Ahmadi to give us a bit more steel and to help aid ball retention.
We're already losing. I'd rather have players on who are going to score.
You can't score if you don't have the ball.
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Cracking from Vlaar
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Great block by Vlaar
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If we were 1 up the Weimann for Holman in the last 10-15 mins is okay. We're playing 4-3-3/4-5-1 so wouldn't bring on Holman ashe's not a forward. Great clearance (x2) by Vlaar then, Eh? What's happened?
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Vlaar's been immense. Very impressed with Lowton also.
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we have been really poor. im normally hard on him but think Ireland has played well. two widemen have been thoroughly woeful. weimann in particular. vlaar has saved 2 goals in the last minute
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A penalty? wtf?
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What the fuck?
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You're fucking joking
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WTF is this all about?
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What a fucking joke, never a pen
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What on earth has he given a penalty for?
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Cheating ******.
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WHAT THE FUCCK?
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You have got to be fucking joking....what an absolute fucking idiot to give that.
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A free goal for City. Wankers.
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Shocking, how can he give that.
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
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Reading 1-1 Everton - Adam Le Fondre
Liverpool 1-0 Wigan - Luis Suarez
West Brom 2-1 Chelsea - Peter Odemwingie
QPR 1-2 Southampton - Junior Hoilett
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After 4 of 5 views of the replay I still can't see what that was given for.
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Disgraceful
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Damn.
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All that money and still they need help from the linesman - what a fucking joke of a decision. He obviously fancied the limelight the ******.
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I missed it. What happened?
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I'd walk the players off the pitch if I were Lambert.
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Has anyone got a clue what happened there ?
Was there a handball at the near post or did Concrete Ron foul as he cleared ?
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The linesman must be bent.
So that's why he never gets a game.
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
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I've never seen a worse penalty decision. Criminal.
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Get Weimann off. Now.
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That was a shocker and has almost certainly killed the game for us. Cheating corrupt skywank club loving officials.
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we will go down if we get those decisions
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Didn't bloody hit Weimann'sarm. Twat.
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The ball hit the city player behind Weimann, not Andy's hand
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Weimann hand as the ball comes in. Apparently.
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
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Bent as in Harry Redknapp. I'm not homophobic.
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
You do realise bent in this context means corrupt?
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I missed it. What happened?
Handball given against Wemann as the ball came into the box but he pulled his arm out the way and it came of a City players head. Ref didn't give it. Wanker linesman did
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One of the worst decisions I've seen even the City players didn't know what it was for!
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I missed it. What happened?
Nothing. That's the problem.
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game over but that decision was disgusting
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Adrian Holmes, the Phil Dowd of linesman. The Bastard!
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If that was a decision given the other way, that linesman would be spending some time in the lower leagues.
As it is, no one will give a fuck.
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Adrian Holmes, the Phil Dowd of linesman. The Bastard!
An elementary error
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That's an utter disgrace. Watch them all close ranks now and not explain the decision.
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The how often have you seen a pen given when not one of the opposing players appeals ?
Just ruined the game as there is no chance for us to come back now
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If we can keep it to 3-0 we'll have done well, considering how shit we are.
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1614:
BBC Radio 5 live's Jimmy Armfield on Roberto Mancini's on the decision to give a penalty at Etihad Stadium:
"The corner kick came in, and as far as I can see, the ball was put over the top. I could not see a penalty as the Villa player lunged at the ball, and Yaya Toure got to the ball, and it went over the top.
"I cannot for the life of me see that. The linesman gave it and he was 40 yards away.
"All the Villa players ran over to him and manager Paul Lambert was remonstrating with him.
"I have thought of handball, but there was none. Vlaar slid at Toure and that is why, maybe, it was given, but there was absolutely no appeal from the Manchester City players.
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A poor decision given against us last week vs Manure. An even worse one given a week later when we play ManCity. Most depressing thing is i'm not remotely surprised.
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bullshit decision.
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They just showed a replay from another angle - clearly DID NOT handle the ball
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Fuck off Barry.
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The more I watch it the more I can't believe any fair and impartial official would ever make that decision. I wish Vlaar had chinned the bastard.
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How the fuck is that not a yellow for fat Barry?
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A poor decision given against us last week vs Manure. An even worse one given a week later when we play ManCity. Most depressing thing is i'm not remotely surprised.
We're a small team these days, unfortunately when it comes to this sort of thing.
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Nothing from Ireland today. Even less from Weimann.
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Ireland playing his usual 60 mins then.....
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Weinman fuming
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Weimann just giving both barrels to Halsey. Good lad.
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Watch QPR get a new manager and be pumped up just before our visit.
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Reading have equalised. If they nick a winner we're in the bottom three.
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Barry and Toure should have certain yellows.
dont agree with taking off Ireland at all. Gabby has been useless in the extreme today and should have gone
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Another penalty.
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Twat.
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If we go on to lose 3 or 4 the decision whilst it'd still be mentioned will be lost amongst 'Well they were going tolose anyway'. That one was.
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MOTD tonight will be along the lines of yes the official got it wrong but Man City were winning anyway and gosh didn't he take the penalty well. Two showings of the non handball followed by four showings of the penalty kick.
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There you go. Have another.
Wankers.
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Fuck. Another one
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Christ almighty. How is he supposed to avoid that?
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Another penalty, that probably was.
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OH FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK FUCK FUCK RIGHT OFF.
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"14 player Man City beat Villa 3-0" should be the headline.
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
You do realise bent in this context means corrupt?
Did not, sorry Rigadon for the accusation. Never heard it in that context before.
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another bullshit decision. I hope this linesman gets struck by something uncurable.
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Christ almighty. How is he supposed to avoid that?
exactly what another joke decision!
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Linesman should be sacked. Corrupt ******.
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As if having limitless funds isn't enough they get all the luck too.
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
You do realise bent in this context means corrupt?
Did not, sorry Rigadon for the accusation. Never heard it in that context before.
Really? Bent copper etc??
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Well the linesman will be on MOTD tonight, which is clearly what he wanted. Well done him.
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can assistant refs get demoted as well?
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As if having limitless funds isn't enough they get all the luck too.
Its what they are doing with these limitless funds. Nobody is that incompetent.
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SOmebody else posted the respective costs of the teams and that's one thing. But the very obvious bias that favours the top team in this league is the real divider.
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That should not have gone in.
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Guzan really should've saved that.
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This does paper over the cracks of a piss poor performance. But the officials have killed us.
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Fuck this. We were never going to be allowed to get anything from this game.
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Terrible goalkeeping now.
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4 nil. Not that the game has looked anything like a 4 nil game. Oh well.
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Christ, we're looking at a cricket score now
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Oh fuck.Deflection. What could go against us in 20 mins has. Christ.
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deflected goal. Wheres our luck?
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
You do realise bent in this context means corrupt?
Did not, sorry Rigadon for the accusation. Never heard it in that context before.
It's an older saying. Often used on TV in the 70's. I still use it sometimes. Here is a definition of it.
bent
1. An individual who abuses his/her position of power, or operates on the periphery of legality
"That copper is as bent as a nine pound note."
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Guzan has to do better there, it took a deflection but he shouldn't be getting beaten by that.
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right turned off cant watch anymore of that
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As if having limitless funds isn't enough they get all the luck too.
Its what they are doing with these limitless funds. Nobody is that incompetent.
Two shockers it's true but let's knock off the 'corrupt' bollocks shall we?
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
You do realise bent in this context means corrupt?
Did not, sorry Rigadon for the accusation. Never heard it in that context before.
No worries mate.
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Guzan really should've saved that.
He had it covered but it took a deflection off Enda
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Turning into a rout. Well done linesman. At 1-0 we may have got back into the game but by gifting the 2 penalties it was game over and heads have dropped
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The most predictable result in the world of football.
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Piss poor? At 1 - 0 we were still in with a chance and could have got back into it.
Linesman changed all that. Fucking ******.
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hope enda stevens has got a snorkel on his christmas list, because he is way out of his depth.
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We haven't played well at all, I agree the linesman has been fucking diabolical and cost us though.
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Just have to keep going.
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The exceedingly shit Albrighton is on.
Can things get any worse?
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fuck me if I was Ron Vlarr i'd pull the team off. You cant play against 13 men.
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As if having limitless funds isn't enough they get all the luck too.
Its what they are doing with these limitless funds. Nobody is that incompetent.
Two shockers it's true but let's knock off the 'corrupt' bollocks shall we?
You can't help but wonder at some of the decisions. Funny how neither Barry or Toure got yellow cards for their challenges. I bet if a Villa player puts in an identical challenge he gets booked.
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Deflected off Clark according to R5, keeper already committed the other way! The game was over anyway, thanks to the bought and paid for officials! I give up on football, it's shit!
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That's all for me. They got their revenge.
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Our names appear to be on the relegation cup
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would you take 5-0 now? bannan's head is gone, would defo bring him off asap
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It's the hoping what kills ya.
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I'm still in no doubt that we'll get relegated, Arsenal will tear us a new arsehole next week.
Top work Lerner, you useless waste of skin.
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Our names appear to be on the relegation cup
Based on losing to the current champions, after having 2 dubious penalties given against us? Get a grip, this game changes nothing.
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Two shocking decisions, but that doesn't alter the fact that we have been absolutely shite. I'd say we'll be exceedingly lucky if we stay up this season. So much for "if we play like we did against Man U we'll be OK". We never, ever do though. Fucking livid, both with the linesman and out shite team. Bollocks to it all.
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would you take 5-0 now? bannan's head is gone, would defo bring him off asap
Yes.
Bannan is and always has been, not good enough for the Premiership.
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Being a villa fan is as depressing as it gets.
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They're taking the piss now. Ole.
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I didn't expect us to win here and they're a better team than us obviously. But there's a big difference between being fairly beaten and being put out of the game by an incompetent official
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That is a total fucking disgrace. The linesman must be bent.
Unless you're speaking of Darren, that kind of insult really isn't on.
You do realise bent in this context means corrupt?
Did not, sorry Rigadon for the accusation. Never heard it in that context before.
It's an older saying. Often used on TV in the 70's. I still use it sometimes. Here is a definition of it.
bent
1. An individual who abuses his/her position of power, or operates on the periphery of legality
"That copper is as bent as a nine pound note."
I knew it must have been an older saying! Sorry for the confusion, I'm only young.
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You can't help but wonder at some of the decisions. Funny how neither Barry or Toure got yellow cards for their challenges. I bet if a Villa player puts in an identical challenge he gets booked.
Just bad decisions PWS. Happen every week, by the hundred, and have done for years and years and years. I just don't believe there's a conspiracy of corrupt officials behind them.
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sighs
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Oh for fuck sake.
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5
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Goal difference has whizzed towards Southampton's, too.
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Really disappointing performance today after the promise of last week, officials have even against us but I can see a 7-0 or worse here , very demoralising.
City put 11 past Norwich last season and we aren't doing much better.
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I didn't realise the ref is Halsey. Congrats for recovery from cancer, but he should never be allowed to ref Villa games. Wwe should have written to the FA years ago to complain against him. Total shambles of a ref against us.
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I am sick to death of this shit the last 3 years have been fucking shite just fucking well fuck off.
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I didn't realise the ref is Halsey. Congrats for recovery from cancer, but he should never be allowed to ref Villa games. Wwe should have written to the FA years ago to complain against him. Total shambles of a ref against us.
Halsey is fourth official no?
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
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You can't help but wonder at some of the decisions. Funny how neither Barry or Toure got yellow cards for their challenges. I bet if a Villa player puts in an identical challenge he gets booked.
Just bad decisions PWS. Happen every week, by the hundred, and have done for years and years and years. I just don't believe there's a conspiracy of corrupt officials behind them.
I'm sure there's no corruption, if there was money changing hands there's no way the decisions would be so blatant. It's just a huge amount of bias shown by all officials towards the clubs at the top of the table. It may not even be intentional, but it's just as damaging.
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You can't help but wonder at some of the decisions. Funny how neither Barry or Toure got yellow cards for their challenges. I bet if a Villa player puts in an identical challenge he gets booked.
Just bad decisions PWS. Happen every week, by the hundred, and have done for years and years and years. I just don't believe there's a conspiracy of corrupt officials behind them.
Normally I agree, but that linesman is in no way a fair official. No chance.
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Not good enough that we are so ragged now. There should still be endeavour and self-respect.
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That first penalty decision especially reminds me of the red card Herd got against Albion last season, a complete fucking mystery which ended any chance we had.
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Their team costs 7 times the amount ours did, so 5 (at the moment) is good going (???).
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I didn't realise the ref is Halsey. Congrats for recovery from cancer, but he should never be allowed to ref Villa games. Wwe should have written to the FA years ago to complain against him. Total shambles of a ref against us.
Halsey is fourth official no?
Is he? Whenever involved against us we get stinking decisions. Arsenal 12 years ago at home started it all, but never ever had a fair game when he has been near a Villa match.
2 decisions have clearly meant our lads have given up.
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You can't help but wonder at some of the decisions. Funny how neither Barry or Toure got yellow cards for their challenges. I bet if a Villa player puts in an identical challenge he gets booked.
Just bad decisions PWS. Happen every week, by the hundred, and have done for years and years and years. I just don't believe there's a conspiracy of corrupt officials behind them.
I'm sure there's no corruption, if there was money changing hands there's no way the decisions would be so blatant. It's just a huge amount of bias shown by all officials towards the clubs at the top of the table. It may not even be intentional, but it's just as damaging.
Spot on.
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How many goals do we concede in the second half of games- we never seem to hold it together for 90 minutes.
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
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Reading ahead - bottom 3 it is then.
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What really fucks me off is that decision totally changed the game. At 1-0 we were still in it despite not playing well. As soon as that penalty went in it was game over.
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Another hammer blow to the confidence. i can live with a defeat to these but losing as we did last week and then this...
Reinforcements needed desperately
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Well this is terrible in a number of ways. Linesman has been an utter disgrace, but we have been desperately poor.
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Take that Custard Pants
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2 - 1 to Reading
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
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2-1 Reading, we're back in the relegation zone.
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Bottom three at five to five. Wish I'd stayed underwater.
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Another hammer blow to the confidence. i can live with a defeat to these but losing as we did last week and then this...
Reinforcements needed desperately
Wouldn't have made any difference if there's linesman around willing to give decisions as dodgy as that.
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Our names appear to be on the relegation cup
Looks like Savage wasn't far from reality when he said early on we could be relegated, we are a good way from being a mid table side
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What really fucks me off is that decision totally changed the game. At 1-0 we were still in it despite not playing well. As soon as that penalty went in it was game over.
I wouldn't say it totally changed the game as city were on top but it certainly killed the game for us.
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Fuming about the decisions, fuming that we've collapsed.
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Typical. Reading are not shit for a change.
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Bottom three, and we can't say it isn't deserved. We're absolutely shit.
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You can't help but wonder at some of the decisions. Funny how neither Barry or Toure got yellow cards for their challenges. I bet if a Villa player puts in an identical challenge he gets booked.
Just bad decisions PWS. Happen every week, by the hundred, and have done for years and years and years. I just don't believe there's a conspiracy of corrupt officials behind them.
I'm sure there's no corruption, if there was money changing hands there's no way the decisions would be so blatant. It's just a huge amount of bias shown by all officials towards the clubs at the top of the table. It may not even be intentional, but it's just as damaging.
I should probably have said I meant bias more than corruption. Sickens me to see it though even when it isn't us on the receiving end.
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decent chance benteke broke barrys jaw there. bad elbow into the face
what we wouldnt give for a gareth barry in our paperweight midfield these days
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
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It's very worrying the way we completely capitulate when we concede a goal. The only games we have won the other team hasn't scored.
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What really fucks me off is that decision totally changed the game. At 1-0 we were still in it despite not playing well. As soon as that penalty went in it was game over.
I wouldn't say it totally changed the game as city were on top but it certainly killed the game for us.
But that's what I mean. We were still in it, City while on top weren't playing particularly well and we were causing the odd problem. One decision later and it's game over. To me that's totally changing the game as the mentality of both sets of players will have changed the second that penalty hit the net.
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch. Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.
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Qpr 1 saints3
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
If we go down this season it would be a disaster. Have you seen the size of the new Prem tv contract? We'll be cut adrift for years and years, possibly forever.
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Bottom three, and we can't say it isn't deserved. We're absolutely shit.
We've stunk this division out for some time now, it will be no more than we deserve.
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What really fucks me off is that decision totally changed the game. At 1-0 we were still in it despite not playing well. As soon as that penalty went in it was game over.
I wouldn't say it totally changed the game as city were on top but it certainly killed the game for us.
But that's what I mean. We were still in it, City while on top weren't playing particularly well and we were causing the odd problem. One decision later and it's game over. To me that's totally changing the game as the mentality of both sets of players will have changed the second that penalty hit the net.
Being 2-0 down in whatever circumstances is no excuse to give up. Man U certainly didn't last week.
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This just makes last weeks result even more frustrating and painful.
And when will West Brom stfu and stop winning all the time at home.
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We need in January:
a proper experienced defensive midfielder
an experienced fullback
an experienced central defender
a goal scoring attacking midfielder
a couple of wide midfielders
And by experienced I mean international class for a decent national side and / or Premier League experience. Preferably both.
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch. Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.
I disagree, he is trying to change things. You have the patience of a dying gnat desperate for a quick shag.
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch. Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.
When we go down, Lambert will be out.
But the real problem at the club is Cunty Lerner, the man is an ineffectual moron.
Faulkner is just an untalented shop window performing monkey.
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We need in January:
a proper experienced defensive midfielder
an experienced fullback
an experienced central defender
a goal scoring attacking midfielder
a couple of wide midfielders
And by experienced I mean international class for a decent national side and / or Premier League experience. Preferably both.
A new owner would be top of my list to Father Christmas. Lerner is an absolute c***.
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We need in January:
a proper experienced defensive midfielder
an experienced fullback
an experienced central defender
a goal scoring attacking midfielder
a couple of wide midfielders
And by experienced I mean international class for a decent national side and / or Premier League experience. Preferably both.
All on a free.
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but isn't the painting in the villa park reception nice
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Utterly shit decisions aside we are getting what we deserve. I said this last week versus Man U that if you give the better teams the ball they'll more often than not punish you. We are getting battered now because we played into their hands and it is compounded by incompetency from the officials.
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What really fucks me off is that decision totally changed the game. At 1-0 we were still in it despite not playing well. As soon as that penalty went in it was game over.
I wouldn't say it totally changed the game as city were on top but it certainly killed the game for us.
But that's what I mean. We were still in it, City while on top weren't playing particularly well and we were causing the odd problem. One decision later and it's game over. To me that's totally changing the game as the mentality of both sets of players will have changed the second that penalty hit the net.
Being 2-0 down in whatever circumstances is no excuse to give up. Man U certainly didn't last week.
It doesn't, but at the same time Man U weren't low on confidence and playing away to one of the best sides in the country who haven't lost a league match at home for donkeys when an abysmal decision was given against them.
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What really fucks me off is that decision totally changed the game. At 1-0 we were still in it despite not playing well. As soon as that penalty went in it was game over.
I wouldn't say it totally changed the game as city were on top but it certainly killed the game for us.
But that's what I mean. We were still in it, City while on top weren't playing particularly well and we were causing the odd problem. One decision later and it's game over. To me that's totally changing the game as the mentality of both sets of players will have changed the second that penalty hit the net.
Being 2-0 down in whatever circumstances is no excuse to give up. Man U certainly didn't last week.
Agree, but when you've a young team and goals 2 and 3 were freebies courtesy of the officials it is perhaps understandable, no?
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Utterly shit decisions aside we are getting what we deserve. I said this last week versus Man U that if you give the better teams the ball they'll more often than not punish you. We are getting battered now because we played into their hands and it is compounded by incompetency from the officials.
Precisely.
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch. Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.
I disagree, he is trying to change things. You have the patience of a dying gnat desperate for a quick shag.
Do you really think he'll be given the chance if we go down?
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Miserable
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The best thing for us all to do is remortgage our houses and put it all on us to go down. Do it now while the odds are still decent.
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8 goals conceded in 2 games. And Arsenal to come next week. Good grief.
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We're in the bottom three, but level with the two teams above us. What worries me the most is that those two teams have three games in hand over us collectively.
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It's very worrying the way we completely capitulate when we concede a goal. The only games we have won the other team hasn't scored.
If that's true it is indeed very worrying.
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We need in January:
a proper experienced defensive midfielder
an experienced fullback
an experienced central defender
a goal scoring attacking midfielder
a couple of wide midfielders
And by experienced I mean international class for a decent national side and / or Premier League experience. Preferably both.
Dream on Hilts.
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch. Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.
I disagree, he is trying to change things. You have the patience of a dying gnat desperate for a quick shag.
lol
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I disagree I don't think we've been shite. They've won 86 out of 90 at home. Our tactics against the league champions was sound and we had chances in the first half. A scrappy goal conceded but we were showing that we could defend andbreak with purpose. Yes,our passing was poor at times but that was not the reason that we went from 1-0 to3-0. Ashocking penalty decision and the youngsters head went down.
We were all saying that this is going to be an up and down season and today the kids lack of experience mixed with atrocious officiating means that this is very much a down.
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We need in January:
a proper experienced defensive midfielder
an experienced fullback
an experienced central defender
a goal scoring attacking midfielder
a couple of wide midfielders
And by experienced I mean international class for a decent national side and / or Premier League experience. Preferably both.
No Hilts What we need is a miracle and like Colin Blunstone I dont believe in miracles!
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Gut feeling tells me we're screwed.
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It's very worrying the way we completely capitulate when we concede a goal. The only games we have won the other team hasn't scored.
If that's true it is indeed very worrying.
Both league games were clean sheets. The three cup wins were 1 clean sheet and goals conceded in the other 2.
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Do you really think he'll be given the chance if we go down?
He probably will, mainly because we couldn't afford more severance pay. But Lerner has painted himself into a corner by sacking the man who nearly took us down.
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Lerner has made a couple of poor managerial decisions, but we still came 9th under Ged/ Gmac. McLeish spent 20m badly, and Lambert spent 23 rebuilding a shattered squad. Losing Petrov has been as detrimental as anything, but Lerner has backed the managers with money. You speak about him like an asset stripping monster, when the reality is not even close.
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if i remortgaged my house and stuck it on us for relegation we would win the league
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Utterly shit decisions aside we are getting what we deserve. I said this last week versus Man U that if you give the better teams the ball they'll more often than not punish you.
Spot on TV.
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Bottom 3? Who have reading beaten?
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Still time for linesman to get his hat-trick
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Bottom 3? Who have reading beaten?
2-1 up v Everton
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Mark Hughes will be available to replace Lambo very soon. LOL.
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Left with 15 mins to go and now back in the car. However bad it ends, at least most of you don't live and work in the north west. Two weeks in the row I'm going to have mancs taking the piss. Thanks, Villa.
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Bottom 3? Who have reading beaten?
Everton
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I disagree I don't think we've been shite. They've won 86 out of 90 at home. Our tactics against the league champions was sound and we had chances in the first half. A scrappy goal conceded but we were showing that we could defend andbreak with purpose. Yes,our passing was poor at times but that was not the reason that we went from 1-0 to3-0. Ashocking penalty decision and the youngsters head went down.
We were all saying that this is going to be an up and down season and today the kids lack of experience mixed with atrocious officiating means that this is very much a down.
You're right we were still in it at 1-0 but even then I couldn't see how we were going to win it from there. We would have done bloody well to get a draw from there.
So a win isn't the end of the world. A bloody hiding could be dangerous for morale however. And let's face it, we're going to be in a relegation scrap this season and fighting that out with kids will be very very difficult.
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Our names appear to be on the relegation cup
Based on losing to the current champions, after having 2 dubious penalties given against us? Get a grip, this game changes nothing.
We're in the bottom 3 because we lose to teams like Southampton and West Ham too
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch. Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.
I disagree, he is trying to change things. You have the patience of a dying gnat desperate for a quick shag.
I've been waiting for three years for things to stop being utterly shit. The majority of games this season have been no better than last, and nine points from 12 games is beyond pathetic.
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Bottom 3? Who have reading beaten?
2-1 up v Everton
No but who have reading beaten this season? They're playing Everton today.
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Lerner has made a couple of poor managerial decisions, but we still came 9th under Ged/ Gmac. McLeish spent 20m badly, and Lambert spent 23 rebuilding a shattered squad. Losing Petrov has been as detrimental as anything, but Lerner has backed the managers with money. You speak about him like an asset stripping monster, when the reality is not even close.
What he's done is pulled the plug on spending, which is a bit of cheek considering it was his boneheaded decision to appoint Houllier and Mcleish.
£23m on a load of unproved players isn't nearly enough to compensate for the mistakes that have been made.
He's put us into this shit and he should be man enough to admit to his mistakes and to pull us out of it.
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I miss Martin Laursen.
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Our names appear to be on the relegation cup
Based on losing to the current champions, after having 2 dubious penalties given against us? Get a grip, this game changes nothing.
We're in the bottom 3 because we lose to teams like Southampton and West Ham too
Precisely. 9 points from 12 games means that we've been dreadful in the vast majority of games, not just this one. 9 points from 12 games and a minus 12 goal difference tells its own story.
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We are just as shit as last year and results back that up. No changes I can see. We are truly fucked
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Well fuck me, West Brom are in the top 4. What a truly miserable season this is.
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It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.
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I miss us just having the balls to go at teams from the off. I can't recall us doing that in fuck knows how many years.
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This squad is going down. I just hope we can get a couple in during January.
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I disagree I don't think we've been shite. They've won 86 out of 90 at home. Our tactics against the league champions was sound and we had chances in the first half. A scrappy goal conceded but we were showing that we could defend andbreak with purpose. Yes,our passing was poor at times but that was not the reason that we went from 1-0 to3-0. Ashocking penalty decision and the youngsters head went down.
We were all saying that this is going to be an up and down season and today the kids lack of experience mixed with atrocious officiating means that this is very much a down.
You're right we were still in it at 1-0 but even then I couldn't see how we were going to win it from there. We would have done bloody well to get a draw from there.
So a win isn't the end of the world. A bloody hiding could be dangerous for morale however. And let's face it, we're going to be in a relegation scrap this season and fighting that out with kids will be very very difficult.
Notmany teams have won at Man City. Over 30 gameson the trot soabit of perspective is needed. But,yes,more worrying is the damage to morale.
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Lerner has made a couple of poor managerial decisions, but we still came 9th under Ged/ Gmac. McLeish spent 20m badly, and Lambert spent 23 rebuilding a shattered squad. Losing Petrov has been as detrimental as anything, but Lerner has backed the managers with money. You speak about him like an asset stripping monster, when the reality is not even close.
What he's done is pulled the plug on spending, which is a bit of cheek considering it was his boneheaded decision to appoint Houllier and Mcleish.
£23m on a load of unproved players isn't nearly enough to compensate for the mistakes that have been made.
He's put us into this shit and he should be man enough to admit to his mistakes and to pull us out of it.
Well he did 2 years back with Bent didn't he. I think there will be some decent money spent this January on 3-4 players.
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No doubt Lambert will say
'We gave everything and i'm proud of the players'
Meanwhile another Scot works wonders with the Stripeyfilth.
They will go down within 3 years. Clark is enjoying what Hogson put in place, but no way will it last beyond this season. 13 games does not make him a good manager.
Maybe not, but we'll be down before them.
We must have the worst midfield in this division.
We do for sure, but I would not swap Lambert for Clarke in a month of Sundays. Lambert will get it right at Villa, if going down happens, it happens. He is a good manager IMO, and losing the last 2 doesn't change it. January might bring some midfield too.
Let's not make excuses for Lambert, he's been shit so far, and if he takes us down he should be publicly flogged on the pitch. Next to that turd Lerner, and the ginger pillock Faulkner.
I disagree, he is trying to change things. You have the patience of a dying gnat desperate for a quick shag.
I've been waiting for three years for things to stop being utterly shit. The majority of games this season have been no better than last, and nine points from 12 games is beyond pathetic.
Ok Risso...you have been absolutely right all along...including your comments about Benteke etc...give it a rest
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Fergie has got a lot to answer for with our demise.
His glowing letter of reference for McLeish (which twatty Lerner kept in a safe!) could be the one thing that kills us off.
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It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.
And how exactly are we going to do that? We've won two games in 12, and we're suddenly going to win three in a row? You haven't half been spouting some shite today.
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Our names appear to be on the relegation cup
Based on losing to the current champions, after having 2 dubious penalties given against us? Get a grip, this game changes nothing.
We're in the bottom 3 because we lose to teams like Southampton and West Ham too
Yep, and saying "It'll take time for the team to learn and gel" is missing the point - we never had time, and we're running out of it, bit by bit.
Today we were shit, but with a bit of luck and fighting hard could have come away with a draw. What a shame then that the officials took centre stage in the drubbing today, because it is they that have gifted City 2 goals, possibly even the first when a 50-50 decision for the corner went against us. Coupled with the fact that it was clear the ref didn't want to punish City players by not carding Toure and Barry for yellow card offences, and City knew that they were in for an easy ride from the ref team today. It was the officials that started the drubbing, not the team.
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Well fuck me, West Brom are in the top 4. What a truly miserable season this is.
West Brom have no fear when they go into games. They might lose but by taking the game to the opposition they always give themselves a chance. I honestly thought with Lambert we had that in our manager. Either that or its the players at the club because what we are starting to see is a bit of what both Houllier and McLeish had to put up with.
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Lerner has made a couple of poor managerial decisions, but we still came 9th under Ged/ Gmac. McLeish spent 20m badly, and Lambert spent 23 rebuilding a shattered squad. Losing Petrov has been as detrimental as anything, but Lerner has backed the managers with money. You speak about him like an asset stripping monster, when the reality is not even close.
What he's done is pulled the plug on spending, which is a bit of cheek considering it was his boneheaded decision to appoint Houllier and Mcleish.
£23m on a load of unproved players isn't nearly enough to compensate for the mistakes that have been made.
He's put us into this shit and he should be man enough to admit to his mistakes and to pull us out of it.
Well he did 2 years back with Bent didn't he. I think there will be some decent money spent this January on 3-4 players.
Well what a fucking way to run things.
Spend big and buy quality ONLY when we're in the shit.
It will be EXTREMELY difficult to get anybody of quality in. Who wants to play for a directionless club that are seemingly going around in ever decreasing circles?
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It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.
And how exactly are we going to do that? We've won two games in 12, and we're suddenly going to win three in a row? You haven't half been spouting some shite today.
As an example no one expected Wigan to put a run of results together last year.
And just because Ozz isn't as negative as you doesn't make his opinion shite, so wind it in please.
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It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.
And how exactly are we going to do that? We've won two games in 12, and we're suddenly going to win three in a row? You haven't half been spouting some shite today.
As an example no one expected Wigan to put a run of results together last year.
And just because Ozz isn't as negative as you doesn't make his opinion shite, so wind it in please.
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First goal after a foul not given, two disgraceful penalty gifts then a deflected own goal. Only the last goal was decent. No wonder they were demoralised. The best thing the referee did all afternoon was not to yellow card Weimann when he went to the middle to berate the linesman after the final whistle.
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It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.
And how exactly are we going to do that? We've won two games in 12, and we're suddenly going to win three in a row? You haven't half been spouting some shite today.
As an example no one expected Wigan to put a run of results together last year.
And just because Ozz isn't as negative as you doesn't make his opinion shite, so wind it in please.
Oh get over yourself will you, I'm sure Ozz is big enough to answer for himself.
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It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.
And how exactly are we going to do that? We've won two games in 12, and we're suddenly going to win three in a row? You haven't half been spouting some shite today.
As an example no one expected Wigan to put a run of results together last year.
And just because Ozz isn't as negative as you doesn't make his opinion shite, so wind it in please.
Oh get over yourself will you, I'm sure Ozz is big enough to answer for himself.
I said wind it in.
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Fine, if your way of dealing things is to be on some macho power trip, knock yourself out big guy.
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Well fuck me, West Brom are in the top 4. What a truly miserable season this is.
Strange how the albion fans have put us back on their radar now that they're above us.
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I am indeed. Although lost a few pounds with the shits last week so not as round as I was. I digress. We have some players who look much better than the points return suggests IMO. Vlaar, Lowton, Westwood. Benteke are 4 reasons to be happy with how Lambert does business IMO. Get 3-4 more in of that quality in Jan and we might well be a very good side.. just need to give Lambert the time to sort it out. His signings have shown enough to buy him that for me.
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Do people think that the score doesn't necessarily reflect how we played? We might have not played well but not as bad as 5-0 sounds. I thought we gave them a challenge first half...
*no need to answer risso lol
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Fine, if your way of dealing things is to be on some macho power trip, knock yourself out big guy.
My way is to ask politely to wind it in. As we've asked numerous posters.
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It is poor Risso, I agree, but I still think we will stay up. I think we will win 2-3 in a row soon enough and drag ourselves up the table a bit.
And how exactly are we going to do that? We've won two games in 12, and we're suddenly going to win three in a row? You haven't half been spouting some shite today.
As an example no one expected Wigan to put a run of results together last year.
And just because Ozz isn't as negative as you doesn't make his opinion shite, so wind it in please.
Oh get over yourself will you, I'm sure Ozz is big enough to answer for himself.
How dare you with your snidey, rule breaking posts!!!
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Do people think that the score doesn't necessarily reflect how we played? We might have not played well but not as bad as 5-0 sounds. I thought we gave them a challenge first half...
*no need to answer risso lol
Its second halfs though. As soon as the opposition raise their game we go rubbish.