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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: danlanza on November 16, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
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Has to be one of the best we have had, ever.
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Do you mean "inside forward"?
Peter Withe was CF to Gary Shaw.
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Do you mean "inside forward"?
Peter Withe was CF to Gary Shaw.
Thats what i mean, sorry. Inside forward.
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Was a great player, will never forgive that wanker Bowyer for ruining his career
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I had the pleasure of bumping into my boyhood hero after the game on Saturday against Man U. He was coming out of the press area in the Trinity Rd stand. We chatted briefly and he signed an autograph for my son. I said " you are a true legend" he said " I don't know about that". Such a modest man, if it was'nt for that injury he would surely have gone on to greater things either with Villa or representing one of the top teams in Europe. The sad thing was he was limping and what also surprised me was that he walked through the Trinity Rd stand unnoticed. If The medical treatment was as good then as it is today I would like to think he's career could have been extended. Gary could have gone on to represent England and keep Lineker out of the England team. If you look at the players which have won the Bravo award for the best young player in Europe you will realise how highly rated he was. Thanks Gary for the memories and in my eyes you are a legend.
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He's the reason why i support Villa,our history would've been so different if his career wasn't cut short.I agree with you WFT,he would've been an England regular.
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The sad thing was he was limping and what also surprised me was that he walked through the Trinity Rd stand unnoticed.
I can rant for hours on how our legends go unnoticed by supporters.
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My first ever football hero.
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The sad thing was he was limping and what also surprised me was that he walked through the Trinity Rd stand unnoticed.
I can rant for hours on how our legends go unnoticed by supporters.
I know what you mean Dave, over the years I've had the pleasure of bumping into a number of former players in and around the ground. They nearly normally all go unnoticed. I remember chatting to Tony Morley and getting his autograph as he walked through the car park behind the North Stand. As he was signing the autograph a few middle aged fans asked who's that!
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What really pisses me off about it is the way in which ignoring the heroes of '82 was one of the highest crimes on the charge sheet against Doug (not that it wasn't a disgrace) yet they can walk down Witton Lane on matchday without being noticed. It makes me wonder how much of it was a genuine anger and how much just another stick to beat Doug with.
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In my time the best number 10's:
Geoff Vowden
Brian Little
John Deehan
Gary Shaw
Dwight Yorke
And hopefully Andreas Weimann.
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As much as I loved Brian Little, Gary Shaw is my top choice
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The sad thing was he was limping and what also surprised me was that he walked through the Trinity Rd stand unnoticed.
I can rant for hours on how our legends go unnoticed by supporters.
I know what you mean Dave, over the years I've had the pleasure of bumping into a number of former players in and around the ground. They nearly normally all go unnoticed. I remember chatting to Tony Morley and getting his autograph as he walked through the car park behind the North Stand. As he was signing the autograph a few middle aged fans asked who's that!
I worshipped everyone of the 82 team and still do however a couple of years ago I met Dennis in the corporate reception area in Trinity said hello and asked him to sign my match ticket. Dennis was as good a gold and we had a chat and he said to me you want Tony's autograph as well and pointed to a "man" close by! I honestly did not recognise Tony. He has changed a lot with age.
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Regarding Villa legends and their true worth, I recall the first time I met Tony Morley, Des Bremner, Paul Birch and Sid Cowans after an Old Stars game (apologies to our other former players, it's not meant how it sounds). I was so excited I could hardly speak.
After an Everton home game a couple of years ago, the hostess on the Villa Bus I was travelling home on happened to mention she met Ian Taylor in the Trinity entrance and he signed her teamsheet. She asked if anybody wanted it, and I was the only one to put my hand up. Tayls may not have the trophy haul of others, but me and my mate still followed him like a couple of lovesick teenagers until he spoke to us before the Demolition Derby.
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The sad thing was he was limping and what also surprised me was that he walked through the Trinity Rd stand unnoticed.
I can rant for hours on how our legends go unnoticed by supporters.
I know what you mean Dave, over the years I've had the pleasure of bumping into a number of former players in and around the ground. They nearly normally all go unnoticed. I remember chatting to Tony Morley and getting his autograph as he walked through the car park behind the North Stand. As he was signing the autograph a few middle aged fans asked who's that!
I worshipped everyone of the 82 team and still do however a couple of years ago I met Dennis in the corporate reception area in Trinity said hello and asked him to sign my match ticket. Dennis was as good a gold and we had a chat and he said to me you want Tony's autograph as well and pointed to a "man" close by! I honestly did not recognise Tony. He has changed a lot with age.
Havemt we all :(
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to add a bit to dave.woodhalls reply a front 2 of withe and shaw and morley at left wing can rule the div 1 then rule europe but at the same time we watch england fail in spain 82 makes my blood boil just imagine that 3 and add certain mr mortimer aided by super sid cowans and it makes you wonder what could of been.oh yes and kenny swain at right back, the list over the years can go on and on cant it.
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That's what's always got me about England, it's almost as if they have a North West remit to fulfil. It's been the same for decades. I don't give a shit about it anymore though - only thing England does for Villa is turn our players' heads.
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I'd also like to add how much of a disgrace it is how the legends are ignored. More than once i've been chatting to Dave before a game and one of them walks past and virtually no one notices them. Meanwhile i'm turning into a stuttering idiot just by the mere sight of them and have to stop myself from shouting out like a blubbering girl "it's Dennis Mortimer!!!" Or "Fuck me that's Des Bremner" etc and I have to force myself not to be 10 again by going up and asking for their autograph.
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Strange to say but we foreign fans are more lucky. We are favoured and encouraged to meet the Villa legends and ao every year we have the chance to meet the likes of Tony, Sid, Dennis, Des, Mc Naught, Ian Taylor or others in the Gordon Cowans suite.
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In answer to the OP: Brian, then Gary.
In answer to the recognition thing, of the 81/82 crew, I think I'd struggle to recognise Gary Williams.
As to what I'd say, mostly it would be an utterly heartfelt Thank You. Certain players have left an indelible mark on me that you can't think of them without bringing to mind a picture of them in action with all the associated wonderful memories.
Certain players haven't of course, and for them I feel regret that they had the chance to play for us and I didn't :-)
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Just to add that the thank you would also be extend to not just the stars but all toes who've slogged away, giving whatever they had to give, for example Kevin Gage who always gave everything, even when the crowd were on his back (something I never understood).
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Gary Shaw simple as !
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Just to add that the thank you would also be extend to not just the stars but all toes who've slogged away, giving whatever they had to give, for example Kevin Gage who always gave everything, even when the crowd were on his back (something I never understood).
I loved Gagey, he was basically an honest pro, but every now and then he'd do something really classy.
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Brian Little i always say is my all time favourite player because of some of the things he could do with a football and possibly due to the intense rivalry between BL and 'The Devil's Own' from the 'Sty' at that time so i suppose my opinion a little tainted cos of that rivalry as i would have to put Gary Shaw as No.1 inside forward, Little second and Yorkie with the bronze.