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Title: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: QBVILLA on November 15, 2012, 12:16:27 PM
Following Ibrahimovic's great goal last night my lad noticed England fans applauding. He asked me if i'd ever applauded a goal at Villa Park by an opposition player. The only one I can think of was Scholes' volley from a corner at the North Stand. Anyone else? And did you get a reaction from those sat/stood near?
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Post by: pedro25 on November 15, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Pires and A Cole scored great goals at VP for Arsenal that were warmly applauded iirc.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: not3bad on November 15, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
I applauded a goal by Trevor Brooking for West Ham in 1978.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: London Villan on November 15, 2012, 12:20:05 PM
Pires...
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 15, 2012, 12:21:27 PM
Pires and A Cole scored great goals at VP for Arsenal that were warmly applauded iirc.

This.

Scholes volley.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: john e on November 15, 2012, 12:22:57 PM
Did anyone applaud Trevor Francis's hat trick for QPR ?   :D
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Mazrim on November 15, 2012, 12:23:50 PM
I've done it a few times, yes. If you appreciate a game you have to applaud its finest moments, even if it costs you personally.
It's at the very heart of sportsmanship in my opinion.

If a player does something truly extraordinary then you're privileged to witness it. So you suck it up, applaud him and then, if you get the opportunity, throw a bottle at him.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Villan For Life on November 15, 2012, 12:30:35 PM
Boniek for Juve in 1983.

Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: QBVILLA on November 15, 2012, 12:31:19 PM
I've done it a few times, yes. If you appreciate a game you have to applaud its finest moments, even if it costs you personally.
It's at the very heart of sportsmanship in my opinion.

If a player does something truly extraordinary then you're privileged to witness it. So you suck it up, applaud him and then, if you get the opportunity, throw a bottle at him.

I agree with your sentiments but would it apply if (now obviously this is totally hypothetical of course) a Blues player cracked in a carbon copy goal of Ibrahimovic's at the Holte End?
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: QBVILLA on November 15, 2012, 12:33:28 PM
Pires and A Cole scored great goals at VP for Arsenal that were warmly applauded iirc.

That Arsenal display in that first 45 minutes was probably the finest premierleague display i've witnessed first hand. I honmestly thought we were going to finish up losing 7 or 8-0 and came out of the ground feeling pleased we'd managed to lose 3-1. Weird.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: glasses on November 15, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
Scholes volley
Rodallega volley
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: OCD on November 15, 2012, 12:37:08 PM
Matt Jansen's superb long range effort for Crystal Palace against us. We were 3-0 up at the time but it deserved applause whatever the score.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: glasses on November 15, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
The Gerrard free-kick was absolute class in 2007, but after the cheating ****** had dived to get the free-kick in the first place I doubt anyone clapped
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: rutski on November 15, 2012, 12:43:44 PM
i have applauded a few, the scholes and rodallega volleys come to mind. there is nothing wrong with appreciating some brilliance from an opposition player, it shows you actually love football as well as the villa.
i wouldnt though applaud any goals from the olbeyun, blose or wolves no matter what!
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 15, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
It wasn't a spectacular goal but I remember Helsingborgs' equaliser being applauded. Not by me, I was too pissed off. Also I was at the match when Scholes scored the volley. I didn't applaud and didn't feel like doing so. I think I might have mentioned my opinion of his club in the post match thread last weekend.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Charlie8182 on November 15, 2012, 12:47:53 PM
I was only 11 but I remember my dad and some other Villa fans clapping a spectacular overhead kick goal from Arsenal's Paul Davis on the last game of the 82/83 season, but there was no way a stroppy kid like me was applauding a goal against Villa!
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: QBVILLA on November 15, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
It wasn't a spectacular goal but I remember Helsingborgs' equaliser being applauded. Not by me, I was too pissed off. Also I was at the match when Scholes scored the volley. I didn't applaud and didn't feel like doing so. I think I might have mentioned my opinion of his club in the post match thread last weekend.

Oh don't get me wrong I p dislike Man U more than I do Blues as throughout my childhood we never played Blues and as a Black Country lad i'd never even met a Bluenose. United and Liverpool though, can't stand them. Still found myself applauding that Scholes volley though.
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Post by: Holte L2 on November 15, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
Alexander Mostovoi ,Celta Vigo.

His performance for Celta Vigo 1998/1999 is the best individual performance I have seen against us.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 15, 2012, 12:58:24 PM
It wasn't a spectacular goal but I remember Helsingborgs' equaliser being applauded. Not by me, I was too pissed off. Also I was at the match when Scholes scored the volley. I didn't applaud and didn't feel like doing so. I think I might have mentioned my opinion of his club in the post match thread last weekend.

Oh don't get me wrong I p dislike Man U more than I do Blues as throughout my childhood we never played Blues and as a Black Country lad i'd never even met a Bluenose. United and Liverpool though, can't stand them. Still found myself applauding that Scholes volley though.

I remember thinking "that's a great goal" but seeing those twats cavorting at the other end turned any appreciation of the art of hitting a volley quickly into rage at that despicable club and everyone associated with them. I fully accept this is a fault of mine. I'm too bitter in the heat of the moment. I didn't applaud Rodallega's either and I don't particularly mind Wigan. Apart from when they've just scored against us which was the scenario at that time.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 15, 2012, 01:00:31 PM
Paul Ince scored a belter against us for West Ham, just after he broke through, I remember applauding that.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 15, 2012, 01:05:10 PM
I remember thinking "that's a great goal" but seeing those twats cavorting at the other end turned any appreciation of the art of hitting a volley quickly into rage at that despicable club and everyone associated with them. I fully accept this is a fault of mine. I'm too bitter in the heat of the moment.
That was my feelings of it, genuinely thought we'd beat them that day
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: bertlambshank on November 15, 2012, 01:06:22 PM
Alexander Mostovoi ,Celta Vigo.

His performance for Celta Vigo 1998/1999 is the best individual performance I have seen against us.
This.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on November 15, 2012, 01:14:45 PM
Can't remember the lads name but in the Villa Luton game 88/89 Luton took a corner in front of the holte end and the guy lashed it in on the volley from outside the box, incredible goal and among the v signs and expletives there was a smattering of appreciative clapping as the Luton team celebrated in the corner.
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Post by: curiousorange on November 15, 2012, 01:17:07 PM
Never have, never will. I don't have it in me to be that objective.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: MonsXI on November 15, 2012, 01:23:26 PM
If it's a good goal applaud it unless it's the noses or a player you hate!
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on November 15, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Pires...
I applauded when we fucked the bandy legged wastrel off.
Does that count?
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 15, 2012, 01:26:49 PM
I don't think I have, I really appreciated the Scholes Volley but I just shouted fuck off you ginger ******..Really grown up me :)
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: pedro25 on November 15, 2012, 01:32:17 PM
When Charlton beat us 4-3 a few years back on the last day, to stay up, Danny Mills got the winner.  That wasn't applauded as such but I remember the Holte applauding the Charlton team/fans at the end for staying up.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Dave P on November 15, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
Matt Jansen's superb long range effort for Crystal Palace against us. We were 3-0 up at the time but it deserved applause whatever the score.

This is the first one I remember applauding too.  I remember Ian Taylor scoring the winner against us for Derby in a pre season friendly at Pride Park that almost got cheered by Villa fans.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Broughty-Villian on November 15, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
we gave Cruyff a standing ovation, and i even remember a few villa players clapping him off the park in 77.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: placeforparks on November 15, 2012, 01:44:05 PM
applauded the aforementioned pires goal and also sylvain distin's goal for man city against us in a mid-week defeat. it was brilliant. like a knife through butter.

this is it:-
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Ads on November 15, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
I'd never do it.

The quality is always tempered by the fact its against us.

The closest to admiration they'll get is a curse under my breath.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: glasses on November 15, 2012, 01:50:08 PM
applauded the aforementioned pires goal and also sylvain distin's goal for man city against us in a mid-week defeat. it was brilliant. like a knife through butter.

this is it:-

That was one that in hindsight, I should have clapped. At the time I thought that he just wandered through our shite defence, and was annoyed, but watching replays it was a brilliant burst and composed finish from a centre half I have always rated.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 15, 2012, 01:52:07 PM
Fuck that.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 15, 2012, 01:52:25 PM
Done it once in my entire life. First game of the season a few years back against QPR ( Staunton scored a piledriver for us). Think we were 4-1 up when QPR scored a consolation goal late on. Me and Alex-Alex Cropley jumped up and cheered their goal because he'd put a few quid on a 4-2 Villa win.

Dunno why I cheered - he didn't give me a carrot out of his winnings...


Edit - "few years back" - it was 16 years ago.

Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: KevinGage on November 15, 2012, 02:19:26 PM
Recall a sharp intake of breath and then widespread applause on the Holte when Mark Pembridge lashed in a 40 yarder for Luton back in 1991.   Was a weird game in general, that.   Cantscoreino might even have scored.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: darren woolley on November 15, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
I wouldn't be able to do it myself after every goal we concede I'm gutted.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Chris Smith on November 15, 2012, 02:27:57 PM
I remember quite a row on here after the Pires goal with some getting upset that people had applauded it.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: mrastonvilla on November 15, 2012, 02:28:53 PM
Don't think I have done this at villa park. Although olofs goals against England were the most entertaining (football related) thing on TV during the summer.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Nev on November 15, 2012, 02:29:46 PM
"A few years back" when I stood on the Holte there was a bloke who whould always applaud the opposition goals, every single flaming one. Not just polite but vigorous and loud so everyone couldn't fail to notice. He stood by us for a year or so doing this, his son would be with him from time to time but never followed his Dads bizarre behaviour.

Needless to say, the gang that I was with, a mixture of all ages. shapes and sizes, began to get a bit peeved with this until a fight broke out after another appreciative round of applause from our friend. He was about 60 and my mates Dad, who was also around that age went for him. It was the youngsters who broke it up.

We never saw him again after that, but I always remember the fact that he wore a leather hat, similar to those Jarman blokes in Ledrhosen who played in the band at the Bierkeller.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2012, 02:29:46 PM
I'm far too bitter and immature when we concede to applaud. I've thought "shit! That was some goal" a few times, and i've certainly appreciated what a good goal it was when i've seen a replay on TV.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: The Man With A Stick on November 15, 2012, 02:33:49 PM
Scholes' volley also, it just felt like the instinctive thing to do at the time and I've always admired him as a player.  If it had been Giggs, Ronaldo or Rooney I'd have given them a right round of f***s.

Also applauded Forrsell's consolation in the 5-1 game, as did quite a few others, but that was more of a piss-take than anything genuine.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Mazrim on November 15, 2012, 02:34:43 PM
I've done it a few times, yes. If you appreciate a game you have to applaud its finest moments, even if it costs you personally.
It's at the very heart of sportsmanship in my opinion.

If a player does something truly extraordinary then you're privileged to witness it. So you suck it up, applaud him and then, if you get the opportunity, throw a bottle at him.

I agree with your sentiments but would it apply if (now obviously this is totally hypothetical of course) a Blues player cracked in a carbon copy goal of Ibrahimovic's at the Holte End?

Of course.

If it was an own goal.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: timeoutbigbar on November 15, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
I couldn't applaud a goal against us.  I might admit to a mate through gritted teeth that it was a great effort but never applaud.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Chipsticks on November 15, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Sometimes I find myself inadvertently clapping softly if an opposition makes a good pass, I remember doing so at what I'm assuming was one of Paul Scholes' passes last Saturday.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Darlo Dave on November 15, 2012, 02:55:49 PM
I seem to remember applauding the goal Helsingborg scored against us, in a UEFA Cup match, a few years back. Although if I'd known it would turn out to be the goal that knocked us out of the competition, maybe I wouldn't have!
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2012, 02:56:59 PM
I seem to remember applauding the goal Helsingborg scored against us, in a UEFA Cup match, a few years back. Although if I'd known it would turn out to be the goal that knocked us out of the competition, maybe I wouldn't have!

I did as well, although I must admit it was more sarcastic than appreciative and was aimed at Villa.
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Post by: avmark on November 15, 2012, 03:00:00 PM
I applauded a goal by Ted Mcdougle for Bournmouth too many years ago (third division days) classic diving header
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: E I Adio on November 15, 2012, 03:20:36 PM
Ted MacDougall's spectacular diving header for Bournemouth.

Ha. Just noticed avmark's post above. Great times even if it was only the third division.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Clampy on November 15, 2012, 04:07:48 PM
I don't think i ever have, not that i remember anyway.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: MoetVillan on November 15, 2012, 04:27:51 PM
I have applauded goals and also particular displays of players if they are substituted off and have been really excellent.  But its not a habit, I prefer to save my energy to cheer on our own players, it was great to cheer so loud last weekend that i lost my voice.  Been a few years since that happened
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Post by: ClaretAndBlueBlood on November 15, 2012, 04:30:32 PM
I applauded Dyer of Swansea when he was substituted last year. He had a cracking game that deserved recognition. Have also applauded other opposition goals and players when worthy - none spring to mind tho as I blank them from my memory as quickly as possible
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Steve R on November 15, 2012, 05:19:48 PM
When Charlton beat us 4-3 a few years back on the last day, to stay up, Danny Mills got the winner.  That wasn't applauded as such but I remember the Holte applauding the Charlton team/fans at the end for staying up.

I think we also gave Newcastle a warm round of applause when they went down.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: sg on November 15, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Hernan Crespo's 90th minute consolation goal in a 3-2 win.

Great curler into the top corner.

Everyone else gets applauded with the V's.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Matt C on November 15, 2012, 05:31:08 PM
I applauded a late Reading consolation goal at Villa Park in a 3-1 win a few years back with some considerable enthusiasm.

I had a bet on 3-1.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: eastie on November 15, 2012, 05:46:50 PM
Dare I say it but the goal that Trevor Francis scored against us to complete his hat trick for qpr at villa park- it was a quality goal the way he took the ball down and volleyed in from outside the box and as much as I disliked him I did applaud as did many others in the trinity road that day.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
I applauded a late Reading consolation goal at Villa Park in a 3-1 win a few years back with some considerable enthusiasm.

I had a bet on 3-1.

When Richard Walker scored our 4th late on vs Watford I remember only half heartedly applauding. I had a bet on us to win 3-0. We'd also had a penalty shout at 3-0 and I stood up and shouted "no penalty".

Which reminds me,I can't remember the game apart from it was lateish 90's but an opposition player was brought down in our box and for some reason I jumped up and shouted "penalty". To this day i've absolutely no idea why.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Darlo Dave on November 15, 2012, 05:50:29 PM
Oh yeah, I was once the only person in the Tin Shed End at Feethams, applauding David Platt onto the pitch, when Darlington played Nottingham Forrest, in a League Cup game. In retrospect, I wish I hadn't have bothered.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on November 15, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
I remember when Ronaldinho play for Barcelona against Real Madrid and his genius scoring three world class goals against Real Madrid and he was left with standing ovulation and clapping from Real Madrid fans and this is extremely rare event at the Bernabeu and it really rattled the Real Madrid players.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: eamonn on November 15, 2012, 06:09:45 PM
Fuck that.

*likes/thumbs-up*

I think the only time I've done it was when in with the opposition's fans just to avoid being found out.
Otherwise the closest to acknowledging an opposing player would be if he had an outstanding game and was being subbed.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Chris Smith on November 15, 2012, 06:12:11 PM
I remember when Ronaldinho play for Barcelona against Real Madrid and his genius scoring three world class goals against Real Madrid and he was left with standing ovulation and clapping from Real Madrid fans and this is extremely rare event at the Bernabeu and it really rattled the Real Madrid players.

It was a great period in his career.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 15, 2012, 06:38:02 PM
That Arsenal 100 pass goal Cole smashed in a few years back.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Pat McMahon on November 15, 2012, 06:47:39 PM
Fuck that.

*likes/thumbs-up*

I think the only time I've done it was when in with the opposition's fans just to avoid being found out.
Otherwise the closest to acknowledging an opposing player would be if he had an outstanding game and was being subbed.

I am pretty much along these lines. In the heat of the moment, when an opponent produces a moment if genius to score against us, all I can do is either sulk, weep or shout out "bad defending".

I have applauded a few players over the years, most notably Michael Owen, who received an ovation from us when he came ON as sub a week after the England 5-1 Germany game, and I will applaud players going off injured, but I am too one eyed and distressed to applaud a goal.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on November 15, 2012, 06:50:35 PM
Not for me. Like others I'm always too annoyed that we have conceded a goal. I can look back and appreciate it, but at the time I'm too gutted.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: dave shelley on November 15, 2012, 07:04:27 PM
Sometimes football takes over and you have to see it for what it is.  Too long ago for most of you to remember but, both Mike Ferguson (whom we signed later) scored a fabulous goal for Blackburn against us sometime in the sixties, you just had to stand and applaud as he'd dribbled (which they did back then) past most of the Villa team and slotted it into the net.  Also Bobby Charlton did exactly the same about 1965.  Visualise Maradonna against England in the "hand of God" match only beating twice as many players.  It must be said that we were quite shit at the time though.  Great goals none the less.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: berneboy on November 15, 2012, 07:16:12 PM
A bit vague here;

(Barry?) Ferguson for Blackburn against us in what i remember as the final game of the season. He dribbled from his own half past the whole Villa team - demoralised I remember, maybe we were relegated.

I were just a lad so maybe 1967?

I think we lost 4-0
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: dave shelley on November 15, 2012, 07:18:52 PM
See above berneboy, it was Mike Ferguson.  Date's about right though.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Legion on November 15, 2012, 07:24:01 PM
Once, when an Arsenal player scored a sublime goal against us.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: danlanza on November 15, 2012, 07:33:52 PM
Only once in my Villa life. Sorry to say it was a Paul Scholes goal at Villa Park.
I was in K7, season ticket, when the goal was scored. He hit a 30 yard volley. As soon as the cross came in i shouted to my mates around me " He is going to put this in the back of the net." And he did. One of the best goals i have seen at Villa Park, ever. Next time i will keep my bloody mouth shut. Paul Fuc.in Scholes.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Legion on November 15, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
The one which hit the underside of the bar and went in? If so, I was on holiday at the time and just turned round and walked on to the next pub.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 15, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
If we were 17-0 up in the 3rd round of the FA Cup against a non league side with two minutes to go when one of their players runs the length of the pitch bouncing the ball on his head before flicking it up and turning around and hitting it in off the cross bar with a bicycle kick from near the corner flag I still wouldn't applaud.   
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: olaftab on November 15, 2012, 07:49:19 PM
Season 73/74. QPR were heading for promotion from the second division. They came to VP.  They were given a free kick just outside the box almost central. Terry Venables chipped the ball over the wall and Gerry Francis ran around the wall and volleyed it into the net. I admired that and knew from that day that Venables was a genius.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: TopDeck113 on November 15, 2012, 07:50:43 PM
The Mark Pembridge volley at the Holte End was a cracker.  Most people around me applauded - or at least muttered that is a great goal

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Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: peter w on November 15, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
I have but can't remember individual games. Applauding is a defence mechanism as much as it is an appreciation of the opposition's talent. Kind of like saying you had to do that to beat us. Or, if we've won its a patronising "well done".
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Karlos96 on November 15, 2012, 08:42:32 PM
I have a few times - Scholes and Pires goals being two that stand out.  The way I see it is I love football and if I see something that is world class then I will applaud it even if it is against us.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: ChrissyPrice on November 15, 2012, 08:45:32 PM
The Mark Pembridge volley at the Holte End was a cracker.  Most people around me applauded - or at least muttered that is a great goal

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What the hell was Mountfield thinking for their first?
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: SashasGrandad on November 15, 2012, 08:46:59 PM
we gave Cruyff a standing ovation, and i even remember a few villa players clapping him off the park in 77.

I reckon almost everybody in the ground stood and applauded him off. It was the greatest individual performance I've ever witnessed at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 15, 2012, 09:08:51 PM
The Mark Pembridge volley at the Holte End was a cracker.  Most people around me applauded - or at least muttered that is a great goal

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Not paying sufficient attention to a short corner being taken.
Who was supposed to be patrolling the edge of the 18 yard line ?
I think it's Mark Walters ball watching and allowing the guy who scored to get a good 2/3 yards in front of him.
Who was that on the far stick? He starts on the line as the corner is being taken but by the time the ball is being hit by the scorer he is a few feet off the line.
Spink should have easily got down to it and at worst pushed it round the post for another corner. If it had been a German I'm sure he would have.
An absolutely terrible goal to concede, no credit whatsoever to the scorer or the oppostion whatsoever. 
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Mister E on November 15, 2012, 09:18:59 PM
we gave Cruyff a standing ovation, and i even remember a few villa players clapping him off the park in 77.

I reckon almost everybody in the ground stood and applauded him off. It was the greatest individual performance I've ever witnessed at Villa Park.
I was there; agreed.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: The Left Side on November 15, 2012, 09:21:17 PM
Mark Walters had been gone a few years by this game, it may have been Tony Daley, I think that was the game that Cascarino missed an absolute sitter and the boos started.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Ron Manager on November 15, 2012, 09:22:26 PM
Did anyone applaud Trevor Francis's hat trick for QPR ?   :D

Er no but I applauded his four goals against Bolton for Small Heath at the age of.........sixteen!!
Never seen anything like that before or since.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: olaftab on November 15, 2012, 09:32:03 PM
Did anyone applaud Trevor Francis's hat trick for QPR ?   :D

Er no but I applauded his four goals against Bolton for Small Heath at the age of.........sixteen!!
Never seen anything like that before or since.
F*ck me I remember that and I was at school so we must be of same era!
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: rob_bridge on November 15, 2012, 09:35:36 PM
2 stand out games for me.

1988 v Liverpool in the Cup - Barnes and Beardsley scored crackers and lots of fans in the packed Holte End clapped the second. This was possibly their best ever team but we matched them for an hour (when we were in Division 2)

1989 v Everton - I think we were 5-0 up and they got a consolation and loads of people cheered. In fact the whole ground cheered. Classic game that one - McGrath and Cowans in midfield together on one of the few occasions.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 15, 2012, 09:59:45 PM

1989 v Everton - I think we were 5-0 up and they got a consolation and loads of people cheered. In fact the whole ground cheered. Classic game that one - McGrath and Cowans in midfield together on one of the few occasions.

Cottee got one to make it 6-1 and Paul McGrath shinned one past Nigel Spink for 6-2 - 23 years ago last week.

Back on topic, I remember a real screamer from Sulley Muntari for Portsmouth from around 35 yards at the Holte End for Portsmouth a few years ago - 2007 or 2008 maybe.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: olaftab on November 15, 2012, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: Exeter 77 link=topic=48300.msg2176410#msg2176410 date2176410

Back on topic, I remember a real screamer from Sulley Muntari for Portsmouth from around 35 yards at the Holte End for Portsmouth a few years ago - 2007 or 2008 maybe.
No not Holte End. They were 3-0 up at HT and attacking Witton End. Yes great goal.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Drummond on November 15, 2012, 10:31:41 PM
I recollect Stephen Gerrard getting an ovation after single handedly doing us over, probably around 2005/6?
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: OzVilla on November 15, 2012, 10:34:13 PM
Paul Ince scored a belter against us for West Ham, just after he broke through, I remember applauding that.

Yeah that's the one that sticks in my memory too - 89 it was.

IIRC, he picked the ball up from our corner on the edge of his own box, ran virtually the length of the field and stuck it in the top corner from the edge of our box.  Great goal.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: joe_c on November 15, 2012, 11:13:24 PM
Neil Ruddock scoring the second best goal of the game for Millwall in 1989 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RO6_Bv-ALU)

David Rocastle around the same time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_RgB_lce8o#t=01m08s)
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Dan England on November 15, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
Matt Jansen's superb long range effort for Crystal Palace against us. We were 3-0 up at the time but it deserved applause whatever the score.

It was a great  run before it as well I seem to remember.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Pat McMahon on November 16, 2012, 01:05:54 AM
we gave Cruyff a standing ovation, and i even remember a few villa players clapping him off the park in 77.

I reckon almost everybody in the ground stood and applauded him off. It was the greatest individual performance I've ever witnessed at Villa Park.

As a one eyed 15 year old I most certainly did not applaud Cruyff.

And I am not sure I would be any more magnanimous today.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Matt Collins on November 16, 2012, 06:45:55 AM
Alexander Mostovoi ,Celta Vigo.

His performance for Celta Vigo 1998/1999 is the best individual performance I have seen against us.

Fantastic player! One of my favourites. He absolutely destroyed Liverpool too
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: danlanza on November 16, 2012, 09:56:14 AM
The one which hit the underside of the bar and went in? If so, I was on holiday at the time and just turned round and walked on to the next pub.
That  was the one Legion.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: se16 on November 16, 2012, 10:59:38 AM
I remember the Everton fans applauding THAT goal by Tony Morley at Goodison Park on our run to being champions in 80/81. I was standing amongst them down the side and there was a murmur which broke into applause purely from them appreciating the build up and the finish. They also clapped Villa at the end of the game. Those were the days!

Anyone care to find the goal and post it on here?
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 16, 2012, 01:31:11 PM
I remember when Ronaldinho play for Barcelona against Real Madrid and his genius scoring three world class goals against Real Madrid and he was left with standing ovulation and clapping from Real Madrid fans and this is extremely rare event at the Bernabeu and it really rattled the Real Madrid players.

It was a great period in his career.

This needs wider recognition.
Bravo Chris, but too subtle for the masses.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 16, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
Paul Ince scored a belter against us for West Ham, just after he broke through, I remember applauding that.

Yes remember that like it was yesterday, I applauded to.  Ran from just inside his own half then let fly from 30 yards. 
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: The Man With A Stick on November 16, 2012, 01:56:24 PM
What the hell was Mountfield thinking for their first?

They were quite regular though weren't they.  I thought his name was Mountfield O.G. for about two years.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on November 16, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
I've applauded lots of opposition goals over the years. We're all football fans regardless of the team we support and we can all appreciate quality play. If I'd personally witnessed that Ibrahimovitch goal the other night I'd have given the guy a standing ovation, not just a polite clap. It's got to be one of the best goals I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Jimbo on November 16, 2012, 02:03:15 PM
Paul Ince scored a belter against us for West Ham, just after he broke through, I remember applauding that.

Yes remember that like it was yesterday, I applauded to.  Ran from just inside his own half then let fly from 30 yards. 

This is the one that sticks in my mind. Although, at the time, I wasn't very happy.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 16, 2012, 02:10:40 PM
Can I just say that I got Chris's joke?
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: LeeB on November 16, 2012, 02:19:33 PM
Paul Ince scored a belter against us for West Ham, just after he broke through, I remember applauding that.

Yes remember that like it was yesterday, I applauded to.  Ran from just inside his own half then let fly from 30 yards. 

This is the one that sticks in my mind. Although, at the time, I wasn't very happy.

It was one of those "Oh shit, we're going down" moments.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Duncan Shaw on November 16, 2012, 02:32:42 PM
I remember the Everton fans applauding THAT goal by Tony Morley at Goodison Park on our run to being champions in 80/81. I was standing amongst them down the side and there was a murmur which broke into applause purely from them appreciating the build up and the finish. They also clapped Villa at the end of the game. Those were the days!

Anyone care to find the goal and post it on here?

http://youtu.be/y9ZEM4R0jFk
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: se16 on November 16, 2012, 02:53:43 PM
Thanks Duncan!
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: levico on November 16, 2012, 03:58:25 PM
I seem to recall clapping the occasional opposition goal over the years. When the Villa are 4/5 up and there's a consolation goal for example. Otherwise when we've been getting tonked and I've clapped with heavy sarcasm directed at our bench (particularly during the DOL era).

Turning the question around, has anybody seen opposition supporters clapping a Villa goal?

I seem to remember this happening at Derby and Boro but I may have imagined it.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Matt C on November 16, 2012, 03:59:11 PM
Patridge commentates on the Ibrahimovic goal:

http://youtu.be/jd7-8IXMVVY
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: ACVilla on November 16, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
When my old man took me down the game, Holte, Left Side, near the bottom, I would quite often find him applauding an opposition goal and thought, "what a geek" and would be dying of embarrassment. Now I could see myself doing it very easily without thinking about it.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: pedro25 on November 16, 2012, 04:53:23 PM
My Grandad (an Ipswich fan) came up the Holte with Dad and i about 12-15 years ago when we played Blackburn.  Tim Sherwood scored a corker from about 30 yards and my Grandad applauded, I could have died of horror, thought we were sure to get a pasting.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Vancouver on November 16, 2012, 05:35:50 PM
Can I just say that I got Chris's joke?

Can you share with the rest of us?
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Chris Jameson on November 16, 2012, 05:51:54 PM
Can I just say that I got Chris's joke?

Can you share with the rest of us?

Read closely what Salsa wrote.

Good to have you back Chris.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Broughty-Villian on November 16, 2012, 06:15:09 PM
theres a spelling mistake
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Broughty-Villian on November 16, 2012, 06:17:16 PM
couple of my bluescouse friends rang me up after we beat them at goodison with youngs last minute goal seconds after they had equalised to tell me it was one of the best goals at goodison that year, they couldn't see the funny side of moyes still gesticulating to the villa fans tho as the ball was just going past howard.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 16, 2012, 07:38:15 PM
Can I just say that I got Chris's joke?

So did I, eventually. I'm dead quick me.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Vancouver on November 16, 2012, 07:44:05 PM
Can I just say that I got Chris's joke?

Can you share with the rest of us?

Read closely what Salsa wrote.

Good to have you back Chris.

Right oh, I get it now. Good egg.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 16, 2012, 09:35:28 PM
Matt Jansen's superb long range effort for Crystal Palace against us. We were 3-0 up at the time but it deserved applause whatever the score.
I remember applauding that one. First time I applauded an opposing players goal.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: tolstoy08 on November 20, 2012, 04:42:09 PM
2 stand out games for me.

1988 v Liverpool in the Cup - Barnes and Beardsley scored crackers and lots of fans in the packed Holte End clapped the second. This was possibly their best ever team but we matched them for an hour (when we were in Division 2)

1989 v Everton - I think we were 5-0 up and they got a consolation and loads of people cheered. In fact the whole ground cheered. Classic game that one - McGrath and Cowans in midfield together on one of the few occasions.

I might be mis-remembering this, but was that (Everton) the game where Kevin Sheedy smashed the ball at Chris Price's face from point blank range knocking him unconscious and the paramedics had to come on to stop him swallowing his tongue? Strange I remember that incident and can't remember any of the goals!
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Simba on November 20, 2012, 05:40:04 PM
I applauded a goal by Ted Mcdougle for Bournmouth too many years ago (third division days) classic diving header

I remember we all clapped that one. Funny thing though, I remember it as absolutely brilliant from at least twenty yards etc etc. I watched it on You Tube the other week and it weren't that special, or that far. Goes to show what we were used to I guess.  Still, great game, great result, great atmosphere.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: sendô WHU on November 20, 2012, 09:18:33 PM
I can't say I've ever felt the need to applaud a goal by an away team, no matter how good it is. The most I'll go for is a grudging acknowledgement after the game when I've had a chance to calm down a bit.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 23, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
I just got Chris's joke
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: KevinGage on November 23, 2012, 04:45:48 PM
I remember the Everton fans applauding THAT goal by Tony Morley at Goodison Park on our run to being champions in 80/81. I was standing amongst them down the side and there was a murmur which broke into applause purely from them appreciating the build up and the finish. They also clapped Villa at the end of the game. Those were the days!

Anyone care to find the goal and post it on here?

A bit later than that,  we played Everton at their place  (late 80's or early 90's)  and at the end of the game Neville Southall applauded the Villa fans.   Not just a brief, token gesture, applauding all four sides of the ground either. 

There has been some wanky behaviour from that lot and their fans in recent years, but they're generally a decent bunch.  They seem to have gone beyond that weird phase of hating us, which helps of course.  Probably because we're little threat at the moment.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Witton Warrior on November 23, 2012, 09:01:22 PM
I remember us all being spellbound when Cruyff came with Barcelona - He was applauded off with genuine affection and admiration.
Don't remember their goals but our two in the last few minutes raised the roof.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 24, 2012, 01:34:01 AM
I applaud them If they score in their own net ;)
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: supertom on November 24, 2012, 11:43:31 AM
I applaud them If they score in their own net ;)
On that basis, Richard Dunnes been applauded a lot in his time.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: jeowje on November 25, 2012, 12:49:53 AM
I first encountered the 'applauding the opposition scoring as a means of expressing your frustration at our own shitness' phenomenon as Liverpool took the lead on the last day of the Holte. That's how I interpreted it as a 13 year old at the time anyway, but then again I was in the Doug Ellis upper. We roared back second half, and realised that maybe Dwight Yorke might amount to something afterall...
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 25, 2012, 08:36:29 AM
I am not going to applaud oppposition goals - especially at Villa Park. There always seem to be some group of twats in the corner prepared to do that. What makes it worse is none of them seem regulars whereas I hardly miss a home game.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: garyfouroaks on November 25, 2012, 07:35:11 PM
Acknowledging excellence is permissable.

i recal several years ago Gerrad being applauded off after being subbed by our support after beating us pretty much on his own.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: Vancouver on November 26, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
it definitely should be allowed. I remember the Portsmouth fans staying till the end after being pumelled by Arsenal and giving a standing ovation. That type of spirit rekindled my love for football.
Title: Re: Applauding a goal from the opposition
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2012, 10:13:43 PM
On our last visit to Highbury Thierry Henry gave a masterclass and we in turn gave him a standing ovation when he was substituted. That wasn't so much applauding an opposition goal as recognising genius when we saw it.
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