Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: QBVILLA on November 08, 2012, 01:17:56 PM
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The next three games Man U (h), City (a) and Arsenal (h). If offered now would you as a fan take one point from these three fixtures? If so is that simply being realistic or is it a defeatist attitude?
The last time we beat United at home I was 18, Arsenal was '98 or 99 and City were always a bogey side even when they were shit so i'm looking at it and thinking we're looking at three defeats. However, football has an uncanny way of surprising and maybe just maybe we can muster a victory or a couple of draws. At this point i'd take the point, be chuffed with three and anything more would be convinced that we'll end up finishing top 6!
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I'd take a point from each game, so three in total, but all have looked vulnerable at times already this season, so you've got to be aiming for more that 1 win and 2 defeats.
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It would be nice if we could get three points out of that lot you never know in football what can happen I would like more than one point to be honest but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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After last season I would be happy if we just competed in these games without surrendering before we touch the ball
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We're capable of getting something out of all of them. I don't think we will and they're definitely 'bonus points', but it's not impossible.
Arsenal lost at Norwich the other week for example...
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Three points has to be a minimum if we want to ensure we keep out of the bottom three in December.
It will be tough, and we'll probably need a bit of luck, but trying to keep optimistic. ;D
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im hoping for nine, and i would like to think our team and manager believe they can achieve it. Man City we can beat. Arse have been average recently, and I think that midfield at United is as weak as it has been in 20 years.
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I'd take no points if they were close and we gave them each a game. I'd love to beat Arsenal at home for the first time in 13 years, the only better feeling would be beating Utd for the first time at home (in the league) for 17 years, especially as my kid brother is one of them. When did we beat them in the league cup when Bozzie got loads of stick and they fielded the kids? About 97ish?
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I would be happy with two points from those three. Two draws against those teams will instill a fair bit of confidence I reckon.
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The Brummie pessimism drags us down and gives our opponents an immediate advantage. Lift the lads and they will perform to their potential - and their potential is far greater than results up to now would suggest. I expect nothing less than Villa going all out to win all three and let's see what happens. I genuinely don't fear any opponent - they should be fearing us. I'll not run through the whole of our team but I will say, for starters, we've got Gabby who has scored winners against all three of that lot - so why on earth should we fear them? Let them worry about how Gabby, Benteke and Weimann are going to rip them to shreds.
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I would be happy with two points from those three. Two draws against those teams will instill a fair bit of confidence I reckon.
Same here.
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I expect two wins and a draw.
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I'd take three points from those games. I'm not sure what would do our confidence more good though. Losing two, and beating one of them would certainly bring a lot of plaudits, as well as giving us the belief we can beat anyone on our day. However a point of each of them, would show that we can live with and compete with the 'big boys'. Hmmm, can we not just win all three games instead?
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I'd be happy with a point, I think we will end up in the bottom three at some point between now and January and it's most likely to be sooner rather than later given this run of fixtures.
I do believe we will be ok in the long term, it's just going to take time.
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I don't think you can accept writing off two games as defeats before you start, so I woudn't take one point now.
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I'm expecting a draw against Man United, defeat to Man City and a Villa win against Arsenal.
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I'll never take 1 point from 3 games that haven't been played, that's just pure defeatism.
There are points to be taken from all 3 as none of them look unbeatable. Nearly as important as the results we get though is the performances. Get some belief into the players that as a team they can compete with the better sides in the country and Arsenal.
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I think we'll get a surprise win in one of them. Not sure which one.
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I think we should expect to get 2 points. Anything below is slightly disappointing, and anything higher is great.
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I'd expect something from the two home games. A minimum of 2 points.
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a win a draw and a loss.
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After last season I would be happy if we just competed in these games without surrendering before we touch the ball
This
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Think we'll get one point and that will be the Arsenal game.
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I'm expecting a draw against Man United, defeat to Man City and a Villa win against Arsenal.
Not far off my opinion Rudy - only I am "hoping" not "expecting" ;-)
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accepting 1 point from the 3 is basically playing TSM-ball - don't compete at all in the tough games in the hope that you'll save some energy and get enough points from the rest to get away with it.
We should be aiming for 4 as a minimum, same as with any run of 3 games all season. 4 points for every 3 matches will see you nice and safe in mid table with 50-51 points which should always be the minimum aim for a club like us.
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If Celtic can beat Barcelona surely it's nine points in the bag.
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Wouldn't it be lovely if we could beat Man citeh up there again, we could be their bogey team!
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We can beat them all....its football after all.
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I think we will get 7 points.
Beat united, draw with City and beat Arsenal.
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Think we can get 3 points,loose to the Manchester clubs and beat Arsenal
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I would be happy with two points from those three. Two draws against those teams will instill a fair bit of confidence I reckon.
I would be happy with two points from those three. Two draws against those teams will instill a fair bit of confidence I reckon.
Same here.
same again
2 points would mean at the very least we only lost 1 game out of the 3, so its still a big ask, if we can sneak a win against one of them even better, but would snap your arm of for 2 points right now
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The law of averages suggests it's about time we beat Manchester United and Arsenal again at VP. I can't honestly say I fancy us to get anything this weekend but Arsenal are definitely beatable without Van Persie. As for Manchester City, we've already beaten them only a few weeks ago. I'd be delighted with three points from the nine but will settle for two.
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No way would I accept a draw and two defeats against anybody in advance for any Villa team ever.
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If we play at the top of our game and without fear, there's no reason why we can't win a couple of these games.
Obviously with the Man U game we'll need a strong ref too
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ManUre LOSE
Money City DRAW
Arse WIN
4 points.
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Think we'll lose to both Mancs and draw with Arsenal.
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We're Aston Villa. I expect 9 points and 10 goals scored in our next three games.
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I expect the annual defeat to Man U but a spirited victory over the Arse with a possible point at a frustrated City in between. 4 points.
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I'm expecting us to lose v man u. Hoping for a draw at city and think we've a decent chance of a draw and at a push a win v arsenal. But would I take 2 pts? Unfortunately I think I would.
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I think we can beat Arsenal . But a typical defeat against Manure and probably a defeat at shitty .
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It's a shame we aren't playing Arsenal first, at the moment I could see us nicking 3 off of them. As it stands I think 2 minimum and 4 max, more than one for me please.
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As a betting man if I was offered a spread on these I think it would be 1.8-2 points.
personally I think we'll lose the Mancs games and draw vs Arsenal. As th upside is so much bigger than the downside though i wouldnt take a point now.
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"Do you want to bet against us?"
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As a betting man if I was offered a spread on these I think it would be 1.8-2 points.
personally I think we'll lose the Mancs games and draw vs Arsenal. As th upside is so much bigger than the downside though i wouldnt take a point now.
Well punted.
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Think we'll get one point and that will be the Arsenal game.
Essence!