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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: onje_villa on November 03, 2012, 09:21:32 PM
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Saw a rumour on the Mackems board that Herd and Bent had a falling out and that' why they weren't involved. There was two photos, one of Herd and one of Bent, both with the same girl...
Anyone Herd anything?
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http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=740184
The lady in the pictures is Amii Grove -model from Brum, My Lud.
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I can guarantee this is bulshit. While the Bent 'injury' does seem a tad suspicious, we all knew that Herd was unlikely to make the game with his injury.
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She's a dog
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I thought Benty was tapping in Steve Bruce's daughter?
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Bent is living with Liam Ridgewell's ex.
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Didn't Bent get engaged recently?
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I thought Benty was tapping in Steve Bruce's daughter?
That was Li'l Lee.
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it was bent as well. Bruce was peed off when we signed bent and it was then reported that he was slipping his daughter one
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Bent is engaged to Ridgewell's ex. They split 6 days before their wedding last year. Wasn't Ashley Young rumoured to be giving her one too (probably got fed up of solo webcam action).
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There was a report a few days ago about bent being engaged to ridgewell and youngs ex, and living with her and her 2 kids, one of which is Ridgewell's. May explain his dip in form this season.
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There was a report a few days ago about bent being engaged to ridgewell and youngs ex, and living with her and her 2 kids, one of which is Ridgewell's. May explain his dip in form this season.
I need Jeremy Kyle to help me understand this relationship.
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There was a report a few days ago about bent being engaged to ridgewell and youngs ex, and living with her and her 2 kids, one of which is Ridgewell's. May explain his dip in form this season.
I need Jeremy Kyle to help me understand this relationship.
I wonder how many Jeremy Kyle cases there are in the premier league in fairness! Enough for a full years schedule I am sure.
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Bent is engaged to Ridgewell's ex. They split 6 days before their wedding last year. Wasn't Ashley Young rumoured to be giving her one too (probably got fed up of solo webcam action).
If I recall the position, Ridgewell and Young called off their respective weddings almost simultaneously. Which lead to rumours that Young had been doinking Ridgeys mrs. I don't know if it was ever proved however.
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http://www.birminghammail.net/news/local-news/birmingham-citys-liam-ridgewell-cancels-155980
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I'm not even sure that's the same girl in both photos. Very nice mind.
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She's a dog
I'll have her if you don't need her.
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She's a dog
I'll have her if you don't need her.
Get a ticket and wait in the queue.
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Attractive young woman whose interests include high-end make-up, shoes and handbags seeks moderately good-looking, gullible but loaded professional footballer.
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She looks like she has a lovely personality.
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Such Fun!
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Bent is living with Liam Ridgewell's ex.
If that's the blonde one I've seen her in Touchwood. Yummy mummy.
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Bent is living with Liam Ridgewell's ex.
Yep, bought her a pub in Warwickshire which she turned into a health spa, she's been with a few footballers, Bent Ridgewell and Ash Young are the ones I know of
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If there is something going on......and Twitter yesterday had quite a few comments about Bent being 'found' with Herds missus...then it needs sorting ASAP this type of nonsense can tear a dressing room apart.
I'd like to think that PL is a strict disciplinarian and will not stand for any WAG love triangle bullshit.
Bromide in the tea at BH might help !!!
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I always thought that ladies hairdressing salons were the places to go for unfounded salacious gossip not football forums. ;)
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Nothing a good three way wont solve.
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I Herd she told him to get Bent.
Oh FFS, I'm bored alright?!
Let's lock this stupid thread I started...
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You are all Kelvin MacKenzie and I claim my £5. Each!
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So Bent was seeing Bruce's daughter then moved in with Ridgewell's ex who may also have been seeing Ashley Young and is now pictured with Amii Grove who used to live with Jermaine Pennant and may also be seeing Chris Herd. Definately time for a Jeremy Kyle 'Midlands football love tangles' special.
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Shouldnt Jermain Defoe be involved in this complicated situation. How come my good lady's magazines havent got it spread over four pages
Would make a change from the equally complicated lives of Loose Women
Come to think about it shouldnt Kerry Katona be joining in soon. Its her kind of territory.
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Dolly bird in "has pic taken with somebody famous" shocker.
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Can't Bent find his own birds, as lazy as his pitch contribution.
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I have heard that Gabby detests Bent. Could he have been tampering with his missus as well?
No smoke without fire.
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I have heard that Gabby detests Bent. Could he have been tampering with his missus as well?
No smoke without fire.
What a surprise you suspect bent of doing the dirty?
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hang him HANG HIM ......
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If all this is true (probably quite a big 'if') then our little Darren would have surely been busy comforting numerous WAGS yesterday as their boyfriends / husbands / partners.....were toiling away in the North East
Who knows he may even have been out of breath at 4.50 on a Saturday afternoon ......just for once
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Ha!
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Somehow I can imagine Darren has someone else do all the foreplay and main work then he pops into the box at the end to claim the glory moment.
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Yeah, then runs round the bedroom tapping his cock.
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Is that really Herd in the photo? Can't say I'd recognise him if he walked past me in the street.
In any case, seeing as he did actually get injured during the game at Swindon, I'd say a couple of thousand Villa fans would've see him limp off the pitch.
Bent injured sounds a bit more suspicious to me, probably didn't fancy getting abused yesterday from the SOL on the bench.
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I have heard that Gabby detests Bent. Could he have been tampering with his missus as well?
No smoke without fire.
What a surprise you suspect bent of doing the dirty?
Good to see that you are still stalking me Eastie. Let me have your phone number and I will let you know when I am posting something.
No problem dc5 , I just feel you are very anti bent in most of your posts, unless of course this was the bad atmosphere in the dressing room created by bent that you referred to last week - if so fair play.
I have the greatest of respect for both you and Pauline and do value your opinions over the years but I feel you single bent out too much for criticism, unless of course you know something we don't.
On the subject of mon- I'd love to hear what the journalists said to you just before mon walked- I do value your posts my friend .
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I have heard that Gabby detests Bent. Could he have been tampering with his missus as well?
No smoke without fire.
What a surprise you suspect bent of doing the dirty?
Good to see that you are still stalking me Eastie. Let me have your phone number and I will let you know when I am posting something.
No problem dc5 , I just feel you are very anti bent in most of your posts, unless of course this was the bad atmosphere in the dressing room created by bent that you referred to last week - if so fair play.
I have the greatest of respect for both you and Pauline and do value your opinions over the years but I feel you single bent out too much for criticism, unless of course you know something we don't.
On the subject of mon- I'd love to hear what the journalists said to you just before mon walked- I do value your posts my friend .
Thank you Eastie. I did delete that post as I thought it was out of order, but you were on the ball and caught me out. I put what the journalists told us on 'The end is nigh' thread, which was on the old forum and must be still accessible.
After O'Neill had gone, most of what we had been told was in an article by Matt Kendrick. There were other things at the time about O'Neill being extremely rude to Sharon Barnhurst, which did not go down well with Lerner, and my opinion was that things were getting to a point when he would soon be sacked. As it happens, he left very soon after to my delight.
As usual, a lot of rubbish comes out of 'good sources' but, on this occasion, too many things were pointing to the end of O'Neill.
Regarding Bent, I just find him lazy and someone put something on today that summed it all up for me in that we have not got time to build a team around him. Benteke is industrious and it is clear that the other players like him. That alone is a major plus point. I think that Benteke is settling down now in the knowledge that he has earned his place. A great deal of pressure was being put on him by people talking about sitters all the time and Bent blabbing to the press. My motto has always been if the want to go then get rid as quickly as possible. This transfer window crap allows things like this to fester.
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Thanks dc5 , I know we exchanged private messages before mon went and I'm sure we both along with gregnash and a few others raised a glass and celebrated his departure, for me Moscow was the final straw but there were some enjoyable moments in his reign too and it wasn't all bad.
Regarding bent I would have liked to see him get a run alongside benteke as he is a finisher but it seems gabby has now regained some form and I believe bent will depart in January .
Could you tell me if away coaches pick up at knowle as it is only down the road from me and would be easier to travel to games provided there is somewhere safe to park.
Best wishes to you and Pauline and I hope you enjoyed your weekend in the north east and Edinburgh.
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Could you tell me if away coaches pick up at knowle as it is only down the road from me and would be easier to travel to games provided there is somewhere safe to park.
Best wishes to you and Pauline and I hope you enjoyed your weekend in the north east and Edinburgh.
Away coaches have picked us up a couple of times and, depending on who we are playing, arrangements could be made. Just off to sample a few in Edinburgh.
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Herd has denied this Bent bollocks on twitter, good enough for me. Lets leave Bents personal life alone, none of our business, there is more than enough to worry about on the pitch.
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I can't believe we have got 3 pages out of trivial nonsense.
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I have heard that Gabby detests Bent. Could he have been tampering with his missus as well?
No smoke without fire.
Which one? (wink)
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I really hope we're not seeing the start of a witch hunt against Bent. A player I think still has a potentially massive part to play for us.
That said, the understanding Gabby and Benteke are forming is very encouraging. I was delighted to see Gabby anticipating Benteke winning the header and actually pointing to where he wanted the header put, then moving to that place and scoring.
The only thing stopping Gabby becoming truly lethal is his understanding of movement.
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I really hope we're not seeing the start of a witch hunt against Bent. A player I think still has a potentially massive part to play for us.
That said, the understanding Gabby and Benteke are forming is very encouraging. I was delighted to see Gabby anticipating Benteke winning the header and actually pointing to where he wanted the header put, then moving to that place and scoring.
The only thing stopping Gabby becoming truly lethal is his understanding of movement.
Maz it is in full swing.
And you are spot on re Gabby. If he had the ability Bent has to find space and be in the right place, he would be lethal. Bent will go, and score a lot of goals for another side, but I will be grateful for him for the 9 in 13 that kept us up after his arrival. They were priceless, and showed how good a finisher he is given the opportunities.
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I think he wants to leave, and lambert is resigned to him going. Not saying that is a good thing, but I don't know how else to read it.
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Anfield bound. Can't see any other explanation.
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Anfield bound. Can't see any other explanation.
On 5 Live match report yesterday, when talking about additional strikers required at Anfield, specifically said that Bent would not fit in with Rodgers style of play.
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Anfield bound. Can't see any other explanation.
On 5 Live match report yesterday, when talking about additional strikers required at Anfield, specifically said that Bent would not fit in with Rodgers style of play.
I heard that. Some scouser from The Times talking about Liverpool's problems as if we all needed to rally round to help them through this difficult time.
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I wonder how committed Bent is to us at the moment?
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Darren Bent isn't that good a footballer. Which is why a 'top 4' (pass the bucket) side hasn't invested in him. Long gone are the days where an average footballer (Andy Cole) can get in a top side and do well. Managers expect more total football type strikers these days. Sideways move for Bent is the best he can hope for.
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Anfield bound. Can't see any other explanation.
On 5 Live match report yesterday, when talking about additional strikers required at Anfield, specifically said that Bent would not fit in with Rodgers style of play.
I heard that. Some scouser from The Times talking about Liverpool's problems as if we all needed to rally round to help them through this difficult time.
That happens every time that they are in the doldrums. They would have been passing the collection tins round now if it didn't clash with Poppy fortnight.
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I wonder how committed Bent is to us at the moment?
Apparently by reading this I note that he is committed to a number of local girls so that should be enough to heep him here plus £80K per week.
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Anfield bound. Can't see any other explanation.
Cant see Rodgers going for him. He will be be a save us signing for QPR for £25M I hope.
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Anfield bound. Can't see any other explanation.
Can't see it. Rodgers wants team players who can fit in to his philosophy. Unless he totally panics and can't think of anyone else to sign.
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I'm coming round to the idea of selling him and couldn't care less where he goes.
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I'm coming round to the idea of selling him and couldn't care less where he goes.
This 100%
I want to see pace / power / movement from our forwards and I think in a re-vitalised Gabby we have pace, in Benteke we have power and in Weimann we have movement.
I'm not sure we are the sort of team that can afford a luxury player nor does it seem to fit in the 'young and hungry' ethos of PL
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I can't see Rogers wanting Bent either. The only role for him in that team is the central striker, which is where Suarez plays, and he's an entirely different type of player to Bent. If anything, he'll need an understudy to Suarez. Can't see Bent being that man.
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As I see it they'd probably play Bent with Suarez behind him, which is where I think he's best anyway.
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I'm coming round to the idea of selling him and couldn't care less where he goes.
This 100%
I want to see pace / power / movement from our forwards and I think in a re-vitalised Gabby we have pace, in Benteke we have power and in Weimann we have movement.
I'm not sure we are the sort of team that can afford a luxury player nor does it seem to fit in the 'young and hungry' ethos of PL
I'd say it's more basic that that and we can't afford a player who's getting £80k a week to be sitting on our bench. Same probably goes for Given as well!
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After the performances of Gabby and Tekkers in the sunderland game I did start to think for the first time that selling Bent might not be a terrible idea. We would surely make a loss on him but if we could get £15m or more and use the money to strengthen in other areas, such as a genuine right sided player it would possibly improve the team overall
Having said that its a long season and having bent as an option from the bench or to start is a brilliant one. As long as he doesn't start pushing for a move himself.
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After the performances of Gabby and Tekkers in the sunderland game I did start to think for the first time that selling Bent might not be a terrible idea. We would surely make a loss on him but if we could get £15m or more and use the money to strengthen in other areas, such as a genuine right sided player it would possibly improve the team overall
Having said that its a long season and having bent as an option from the bench or to start is a brilliant one. As long as he doesn't start pushing for a move himself.
We might need to buy replacement for Bent since we don't know is Weimann or Benteke as good scoring as Bent. If Gabby can get back to scoring 13-15 goals in the league, and Benteke + Weimann can pick up scoring when Gabby hits the dry run we wouldn't need to rely on him as much.
That being said, I'd probably rather have two or three strikers who can score 10-15 goals by themselves than rely on one striker who can score 20+.
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I think he wants to leave, and lambert is resigned to him going. Not saying that is a good thing, but I don't know how else to read it.
I think its the other way around... Lambert want him gone and Bent is resigned to leaving. Something has happened behind the scenes that we're not privy to.
I cant see why, not long after his arrival to the club, Lambert makes Bent captain only for a few weeks later to not be in the side at all.
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Looks like he's going then. I doubt he's too downhearted. He knows he'll be playing in the premier league next season. Lets hope we are too.
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Why do you think he's going? Just because he got a knock and didn't play or some unfounded rumours in twatter?
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It seems shortsighted and naieve in the extreme to take the view that we no longer need Bent because Gabby has scored his first goal in the league in a year and Bentekke is staring to look useful. I still think that Bent/Bentekke could be our best strikeforce, and it will surely get it's chance sooner or later.
Bent is still by far our most valuable assset and the only player of genuine PROVEN class at the club. We should be very keen to ensure that we keep him in my view.
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Agreed.
I don't get this 'luxury player' stuff either. Charlton couldn't afford a 'luxury player'. Nor could Sunderland. They still managed to get one of the best goalscorers in the league scoring lots of goals.
If we do end up making a loss on him (which is looking increasingly likely), I'll consider it a bit of a failure on Lambert's part.
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I fear he's off in January and whichever way we dress it up, that will be a great waste.
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I get the impression a deal to sell him has already been agreed, and it's all about making sure he doesn't get injured now. Can't say I'll be shedding many tears .
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I get the impression a deal to sell him has already been agreed, and it's all about making sure he doesn't get injured now. Can't say I'll be shedding many tears .
Can't see that - we aren't I'm a position to leave a top player out just in case he gets injured with almost 2 month till the transfer window- it's a shame lambert can't find a way of using bent as he is without doubt a quality finisher and alongside benteke we would have a very dangerous strikeforce.
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Say what you like about the lass in the photograph, she has a far better grasp of squad rotation than O'Neill ever did.
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Say what you like about the lass in the photograph, she has a far better grasp of squad rotation than O'Neill ever did.
I dunno though about her sportsmanship. She positively encourages a dive in the box.
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i think Lambert would sell Bent if he could,
i just cant see where he will go, for a start we will have to take a big loss and i'm sure Randy wont be to keen on that, about 10-12 mill i reckon is all we can expect at the best
then the other big problem is where, Liverpool are always mentioned, but under Rogers i cant see them being interested at all, he already moved Carrol out because he doesnt fit into a pass and move type game, so Bent certainly wont. he's to limited a player in all other departments
i reckon he might just be an expesive sub under Lambert untill his contract runs out, he is always a good option coming on from the bench, but 70 grand a week or whatever it is, sugests that he could turn out to be our latest overpaid mistake
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I'm not sure how anyone could call his purchase a mistake. Without his goals over the last two seasons we wouldn't even be in the same division as we are now.
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Bent and Benteke played with an rampaging winger who can cross a ball(a Ray Graydon type) would scare the living daylights out of any defence. However I suspect like others that Darren Bent wil be joining another club in Jan and he will carry on scoring just as he has always done.
What those on this forum should remember before they start booing him next season is the nine goals in he scored in thirteen to keep us up
two seasons ago (with a supply line of Downing and Young) and the fact that he has scored 20 in 47 for this club.
However if there are problems behind the scenes and Darren Bent is involved yes he should go (if he is responsible) and as soon as possible.
After all we have the beloved Gabby to score the goals now!
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As I see it they'd probably play Bent with Suarez behind him, which is where I think he's best anyway.
Not sure. Suarez's goal output has been fantastic this season, which I think is because Rogers has given him the main central role and made him the focus of Liverpool's attack, rather than a support striker playing off another. Not sure he'd want to disrupt that. We'll see, I guess.
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i think Lambert would sell Bent if he could,
i just cant see where he will go, for a start we will have to take a big loss and i'm sure Randy wont be to keen on that, about 10-12 mill i reckon is all we can expect at the best
then the other big problem is where, Liverpool are always mentioned, but under Rogers i cant see them being interested at all, he already moved Carrol out because he doesnt fit into a pass and move type game, so Bent certainly wont. he's to limited a player in all other departments
i reckon he might just be an expesive sub under Lambert untill his contract runs out, he is always a good option coming on from the bench, but 70 grand a week or whatever it is, sugests that he could turn out to be our latest overpaid mistake
Overpaid mistake? His goals kept us up 2 seasons ago.
People have such short memories.
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i think Lambert would sell Bent if he could,
i just cant see where he will go, for a start we will have to take a big loss and i'm sure Randy wont be to keen on that, about 10-12 mill i reckon is all we can expect at the best
then the other big problem is where, Liverpool are always mentioned, but under Rogers i cant see them being interested at all, he already moved Carrol out because he doesnt fit into a pass and move type game, so Bent certainly wont. he's to limited a player in all other departments
i reckon he might just be an expesive sub under Lambert untill his contract runs out, he is always a good option coming on from the bench, but 70 grand a week or whatever it is, sugests that he could turn out to be our latest overpaid mistake
Overpaid mistake? His goals kept us up 2 seasons ago.
People have such short memories.
exactly !
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In my opinion the team should be totally geared to getting the best out of Bent as he is the best striker at the club by some distance. Maybe a little old fashioned but a number nine who scores pretty much a goal every other game isn't what i'd call limited. Gabby won't ever be a 20 goals a season man and by the time Benteke is at that level, if indeed he ever is, he'll be playing for another club. I'm fully behind Lambert but i can't see how getting rid of Bent is a good idea.
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I'm not sure how anyone could call his purchase a mistake. Without his goals over the last two seasons we wouldn't even be in the same division as we are now.
This! one million percent
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Bent averages roughly a goal every 2.3 or 2.4 games. Exclude his time at Spurs where many of his "games" were short cameos off the bench, and it's not far off a goal every two games. We've been waiting a long term for Gabby to get anywhere near that level, and he seems further away than ever the last few seasons. Obviously the downside is it's clear you have to play to Bent's strengths or you may as well not play him at all, and it's beginning to look like PL doesn't want to do so. So I'm also beginning to think his days at Villa are numbered. Shame, but as long as PL comes up with a viable alternative for getting goals then he has to do it his way.
I can't see Rodgers signing him in a million years though. QPR is a good shout, but could also see Allardyce might fancy him as a partner for Carroll, or maybe Jol would be interested.
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Bent averages roughly a goal every 2.3 or 2.4 games. Exclude his time at Spurs where many of his "games" were short cameos off the bench, and it's not far off a goal every two games. We've been waiting a long term for Gabby to get anywhere near that level, and he seems further away than ever the last few seasons. Obviously the downside is it's clear you have to play to Bent's strengths or you may as well not play him at all, and it's beginning to look like PL doesn't want to do so. So I'm also beginning to think his days at Villa are numbered. Shame, but as long as PL comes up with a viable alternative for getting goals then he has to do it his way.
I can't see Rodgers signing him in a million years though. QPR is a good shout, but could also see Allardyce might fancy him as a partner for Carroll, or maybe Jol would be interested.
Can't see West Ham paying him 60-70k in wages since they have barely gotten rid of the financial troubles they were in, Fulham is a good shout but they are already paying high wages for Berbatov and QPR is probably only one of those who would pay 60-70k and the transfer fee but can't see Lambert and Lerner selling him to QPR.
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Bent averages roughly a goal every 2.3 or 2.4 games. Exclude his time at Spurs where many of his "games" were short cameos off the bench, and it's not far off a goal every two games. We've been waiting a long term for Gabby to get anywhere near that level, and he seems further away than ever the last few seasons. Obviously the downside is it's clear you have to play to Bent's strengths or you may as well not play him at all, and it's beginning to look like PL doesn't want to do so. So I'm also beginning to think his days at Villa are numbered. Shame, but as long as PL comes up with a viable alternative for getting goals then he has to do it his way.
I can't see Rodgers signing him in a million years though. QPR is a good shout, but could also see Allardyce might fancy him as a partner for Carroll, or maybe Jol would be interested.
Can't see West Ham paying him 60-70k in wages since they have barely gotten rid of the financial troubles they were in, Fulham is a good shout but they are already paying high wages for Berbatov and QPR is probably only one of those who would pay 60-70k and the transfer fee but can't see Lambert and Lerner selling him to QPR.
Carroll is on big wages and not scored a goal for the hammers, bent would be a better option for them but I hope we can somehow find a way to use him in the team.
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After the performances of Gabby and Tekkers in the sunderland game I did start to think for the first time that selling Bent might not be a terrible idea. We would surely make a loss on him but if we could get £15m or more and use the money to strengthen in other areas, such as a genuine right sided player it would possibly improve the team overall
Having said that its a long season and having bent as an option from the bench or to start is a brilliant one. As long as he doesn't start pushing for a move himself.
We might need to buy replacement for Bent since we don't know is Weimann or Benteke as good scoring as Bent. If Gabby can get back to scoring 13-15 goals in the league, and Benteke + Weimann can pick up scoring when Gabby hits the dry run we wouldn't need to rely on him as much.
That being said, I'd probably rather have two or three strikers who can score 10-15 goals by themselves than rely on one striker who can score 20+.
You're right that it would be a huge gamble to rely on less established strikers to replace Bent. But at the moment he's not getting games and the concern is he decides he wants to leave. On balance I hope he stays but if Lambert was allowed to spend any money we got for him and did it wiseley it wouldn't be the end of the world.
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Bent averages roughly a goal every 2.3 or 2.4 games. Exclude his time at Spurs where many of his "games" were short cameos off the bench, and it's not far off a goal every two games. We've been waiting a long term for Gabby to get anywhere near that level, and he seems further away than ever the last few seasons. Obviously the downside is it's clear you have to play to Bent's strengths or you may as well not play him at all, and it's beginning to look like PL doesn't want to do so. So I'm also beginning to think his days at Villa are numbered. Shame, but as long as PL comes up with a viable alternative for getting goals then he has to do it his way.
I can't see Rodgers signing him in a million years though. QPR is a good shout, but could also see Allardyce might fancy him as a partner for Carroll, or maybe Jol would be interested.
Can't see West Ham paying him 60-70k in wages since they have barely gotten rid of the financial troubles they were in, Fulham is a good shout but they are already paying high wages for Berbatov and QPR is probably only one of those who would pay 60-70k and the transfer fee but can't see Lambert and Lerner selling him to QPR.
Carroll is on big wages and not scored a goal for the hammers, bent would be a better option for them but I hope we can somehow find a way to use him in the team.
Carroll suits the they play way, way more than Bent would.
Bent at West Ham would see even less of the ball than he did under McLeish with us.
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Surely it is up to the manager to find a way to get the best out of Bent? His record speaks for itself and I always thought he was pretty happy ay Villa before his shift on the bench. His performance against Swansea was very good and I was surprised he was then subsequently dropped. The best teams have two striking pairs, we should aspire to have the same.
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It's up to Bent. He's shown in the past a willingness to play a more all-round game and has done it well. It's about whether he's still willing to put in that work to get better or if he wants to coast it just doing what he does already. If the former, that equates to him fighting for a starting place. If the latter, it's either consign himself to a mostly bench role with us or moving to a club who want to play counter-attacking football more than we do.
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Bent averages roughly a goal every 2.3 or 2.4 games. Exclude his time at Spurs where many of his "games" were short cameos off the bench, and it's not far off a goal every two games. We've been waiting a long term for Gabby to get anywhere near that level, and he seems further away than ever the last few seasons. Obviously the downside is it's clear you have to play to Bent's strengths or you may as well not play him at all, and it's beginning to look like PL doesn't want to do so. So I'm also beginning to think his days at Villa are numbered. Shame, but as long as PL comes up with a viable alternative for getting goals then he has to do it his way.
I can't see Rodgers signing him in a million years though. QPR is a good shout, but could also see Allardyce might fancy him as a partner for Carroll, or maybe Jol would be interested.
Can't see West Ham paying him 60-70k in wages since they have barely gotten rid of the financial troubles they were in, Fulham is a good shout but they are already paying high wages for Berbatov and QPR is probably only one of those who would pay 60-70k and the transfer fee but can't see Lambert and Lerner selling him to QPR.
Carroll is on big wages and not scored a goal for the hammers, bent would be a better option for them but I hope we can somehow find a way to use him in the team.
Carroll suits the they play way, way more than Bent would.
Bent at West Ham would see even less of the ball than he did under McLeish with us.
His best scoring ratio - a goal every 1.8 odd games - was at Sunderland where he formed a successful partnership with a big man, Kenwyne Jones. I could see him thriving on Carroll's knockdowns. But Jarpie has a point, they probably wouldn't pay his current level of wages.
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i think Lambert would sell Bent if he could,
i just cant see where he will go, for a start we will have to take a big loss and i'm sure Randy wont be to keen on that, about 10-12 mill i reckon is all we can expect at the best
then the other big problem is where, Liverpool are always mentioned, but under Rogers i cant see them being interested at all, he already moved Carrol out because he doesnt fit into a pass and move type game, so Bent certainly wont. he's to limited a player in all other departments
i reckon he might just be an expesive sub under Lambert untill his contract runs out, he is always a good option coming on from the bench, but 70 grand a week or whatever it is, sugests that he could turn out to be our latest overpaid mistake
Overpaid mistake? His goals kept us up 2 seasons ago.
People have such short memories.
exactly !
if he spends the next two years sitting on the bench and playing a bit part in the team as he is now he will be an overpaid mistake,
you dont spend record money on transfer fees and wages to watch a player running up and down the touchline and think its money well spent
its alright saying Lambert should do this and that, build the team round him etc, but he isnt, he obviously doesnt rate him or he would play him, so if he carries on like he is now a mistake is what he will be
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We could give him away for nothing tomorrow and we'd still be in profit John. That's how vital the goals he's already scored for us have been and how much money they have earned the club.
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Maybe Newcastle as Demba Ba might go to Liverpool and Pardew managed him at Charlton?
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i think Lambert would sell Bent if he could,
i just cant see where he will go, for a start we will have to take a big loss and i'm sure Randy wont be to keen on that, about 10-12 mill i reckon is all we can expect at the best
then the other big problem is where, Liverpool are always mentioned, but under Rogers i cant see them being interested at all, he already moved Carrol out because he doesnt fit into a pass and move type game, so Bent certainly wont. he's to limited a player in all other departments
i reckon he might just be an expesive sub under Lambert untill his contract runs out, he is always a good option coming on from the bench, but 70 grand a week or whatever it is, sugests that he could turn out to be our latest overpaid mistake
Overpaid mistake? His goals kept us up 2 seasons ago.
People have such short memories.
I've been one of his biggest critics for a while now, but I absolutely remember how vital he was to us that first season. And his goal in the Cup at Arsenal, and one of the two he got in the league game, were fantastic finishes.
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Yes, short memories indeed. Footballers are often criticised for their lack of loyalty and focus on money, but many fans are guilty of the same thing, especially those advocating the sale of Bent and Gabby.
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Still though, no room for sentiment. The Villa must always come first.
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I rate him and I'd like him to stay. But my reading of the situation so far is that he's not reacting well to not being an automatic starter. I want to see a bit more desire from him to get back there.
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I rate him and I'd like him to stay. But my reading of the situation so far is that he's not reacting well to not being an automatic starter. I want to see a bit more desire from him to get back there.
I agree, but I'd take a decent offer.
I think it's suits everyone, I reckon as it stands he's probably fourth choice, as Benteke's number one and Gabby and Weimann offer more in support.
We're short on cash and players, he's a top earner and a saleable asset. The longer he's out the team, the less we get back.
Plus I'd be looking to give Lambert as much funds as possible as I'm exited by how he'll spend it. It could speed up our development.
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Whilst I was happy with the summer buying policy of young and hungry players i felt at the time we had an unbalanced squad in terms of experience. I don't want to see Bent go, but if he does go which seems highly probable i'd hope the money is spent bringing in players who have a good 100 Prem games under their belts.
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I was recently reading H&V 163 again, it's the Mar/Apr issue of 2011 so was the issue after we signed Bent. It includes an article called Never Trust A Goalscorer, I reckon the writer of it could see into the future.