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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on October 31, 2012, 09:16:48 PM
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Who would you like and where?
Bradford at home for me.
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Bradford at home. Or Boro away.
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Bradford at home for me as well.
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Literally anyone at home so I can go.
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Bradford at home for me as well.
me too.
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Bradford home or away or Boro at home.
I reckon it'll be Spurs away, although we have'nt drawn Man Utd in the cup for a while.
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I bet we get Spurs.
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I would take a anyone from manure, arsenal, spurs or Liverpool . I think we can do them home or away.
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I think we'll get Leeds, probably away.
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Is it weird I think I'd probably expect us to do better against one of the bigger teams than against Bradford or 'Boro?
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As its decided on the night, I'll take anyone at home. Packed villa park midweek cup match would give us a chance I reckon. But Bradford please.
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I would take a anyone from manure, arsenal, spurs or Liverpool . I think we can do them home or away.
Spurs and Liverpool both going out as it stands.
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Is it weird I think I'd probably expect us to do better against one of the bigger teams than against Bradford or 'Boro?
Last time I can remember watching us play Bradford i'm sure it was at home and Gregory went 5 at the back and we won 1 nil in a game at least as tedious as anything McLeish served up.
And with a couple of notable exceptions, '81 and that 5-1 game under BFR, I can't remember too many good results at home to Boro, which is why if we got them i'd want it at their place.
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I reckon we will get Norwich
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And not Norwich away either, our record there must be nearly as bad as at Old Trafford.
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In a QF line-up containing Bradford, Leeds, Middlesborough and possibly Swansea and Norwich, I'm guessing we get Arsenal or Man U away.
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Anyone at home for me,could be a good night with spurs,Liverpool and Chelsea all loosing
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Liverpool now losing 2-0 an d Norwich winning.
If Man U draw Arsenal, I swear, this is our year.
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Is it weird I think I'd probably expect us to do better against one of the bigger teams than against Bradford or 'Boro?
Last time I can remember watching us play Bradford i'm sure it was at home and Gregory went 5 at the back and we won 1 nil in a game at least as tedious as anything McLeish served up.
And with a couple of notable exceptions, '81 and that 5-1 game under BFR, I can't remember too many good results at home to Boro, which is why if we got them i'd want it at their place.
I just have the Doncaster ingrained into my memory.
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Draw will be delayed as Chavski - Manure goes to ET.
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If Man U draw Arsenal, I swear, this is our year.
No we need to beat one f these in the QF as it will be more difficult in the semi or final.
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It won't be Arse or Manure, it will be Norwich, away.
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If United join Spurs and Liverpool in being knocked out tonight, it's been perfect with the draw in mind.
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Not relevant to us I know, but it good to see how things pan out.
Off the BBC twitter
Gerrard thumps a fierce long range shot against the post. Rebound falls to Downing who shoots wide with the goal at his mercy
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Leeds away will be the tie.
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It won't be Arse or Manure, it will be Norwich, away.
Mind you, pretty much the only time I can remember us winning at Norwich was in the LC. A few days after they'd given us their usual shoeing there in the FA Cup.
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Bradford at home please
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If United join Spurs and Liverpool in being knocked out tonight, it's been perfect with the draw in mind.
I'd prefer Chelsea out, they tend to play a stronger side than the Mancs do.
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The 6 through so far.
Villa
Norwich
Leeds
Arsenal
Boro
Bradford
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Let's not piss about: we want to get into the semis (at least) so Bradford at home please.
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If United join Spurs and Liverpool in being knocked out tonight, it's been perfect with the draw in mind.
I'd prefer Chelsea out, they tend to play a stronger side than the Mancs do.
True, but if we somehow do get to the final, it's likely we'll be playing the winner of this game, and I do not want another United final.
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Let's not piss about: we want to get into the semis so Bradford at home please.
This.
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If United join Spurs and Liverpool in being knocked out tonight, it's been perfect with the draw in mind.
I'd prefer Chelsea out, they tend to play a stronger side than the Mancs do.
True, but if we somehow do get to the final, it's likely we'll be playing the winner of this game, and I do not want another United final.
I wouldn't want Chelsea in the final, would bring far too many repressed memories of a game that never took place.
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If United join Spurs and Liverpool in being knocked out tonight, it's been perfect with the draw in mind.
I'd prefer Chelsea out, they tend to play a stronger side than the Mancs do.
True, but if we somehow do get to the final, it's likely we'll be playing the winner of this game, and I do not want another United final.
I wouldn't want Chelsea in the final, would bring far too many repressed memories of a game that never took place.
Oh god I hadn't even thought of... that.
At least the very worst possibility is impossible as of last night. Sunderland in the final with MON winning parading the trophy in front of the Villa end, with "2010" painted on his back.
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There go Liverpool. Lovely lovely lovely.
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That day was horribly depressing.
It was miles more deflating than coming out of the CC final.
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If United join Spurs and Liverpool in being knocked out tonight, it's been perfect with the draw in mind.
I'd prefer Chelsea out, they tend to play a stronger side than the Mancs do.
True, but if we somehow do get to the final, it's likely we'll be playing the winner of this game, and I do not want another United final.
Because knowing our luck, it would have P.Dowd next to where it says Referee in the programme.
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That day was horribly depressing.
It was miles more deflating than coming out of the CC final.
I trod in horse shit on the way back to the station. It kind of topped off the day.
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Will this mean our game with Reading on the 27th is rearranged?
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The worst day of my 35+ years supporting Villa. Way worse than the Wednesday game that relegated us.
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The Secret Seven through so far.
Villa
Norwich
Leeds
Arsenal
Boro
Bradford
Swansea
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The Secret Seven through so far.
Villa
Norwich
Leeds
Arsenal
Boro
Bradford
Swansea
Plenty of cushy draws there.
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What got me with the CC final wasn't that we lost. It was that I genuinely believed we could win. The realisation the best Villa side I'm likely to see for a long time was still so irrelevant compared to Man U was the hardest bit to take.
Bradford away, I'd like. We play with a bit less fear when we aren't at home of late.
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The Secret Seven through so far.
Villa
Norwich
Leeds
Arsenal
Boro
Bradford
Swansea
Plenty of cushy draws there.
True, but I fear we're one of them.
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Looking at teams left some are going to get peach of a draw and head for the semi. I don't know whether I want to face Chelsea or Arsenal now or face them in the semi..... I think now ill be better.
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Arse v Manu/Chelsea will be a perfect qf
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I'm convinced the league cup draw is fixed in order to create grudge ties or ties with a bit of a story. If that is true they're probably a bit worried by the lack of SKY 4 teams. Therefore we'll avoid the big guns but get Norwich due to the Lambert "story". Then there'll be Bradford v Boro to ensure there's a plucky lower division club in the semi.
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Chelski through then.
Bradford at home for me.
Arsenal v Chelsea in the 1/4s would be perfect.
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Leeds at Villa Park, i hope.
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Leeds at Villa Park, i hope.
I hope not. Bunch of thugs.
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So the final 8
Villa
Norwich
Leeds
Arsenal
Boro
Bradford
Swansea
Chavski
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The race for who can type who we get in the draw fastestbegins...
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When is the draw?
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When is the draw?
In a few minutes i'm assuming?
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is it on the radio anywhere? I'm listening to TalkSport but paranoid they won't cover it.
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Please please be a kind draw,be so pissed off f we get arsenal or Chelsea away now
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When is the draw?
In a few minutes i'm assuming?
BBC Sport website says QF draw coming up.
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is it on the radio anywhere? I'm listening to TalkSport but paranoid they won't cover it.
Ulp, forget that, they are doing it live.
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Leeds at home, perfect. Feckin hate Leeds.
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Leeds at home, perfect. Feckin hate Leeds.
Tsk
Draw coming up and our satellite signal is playing silly buggers because of the rain.
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Come on Yorkie, at home to Bradford please.
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Dwight Yorke needs to go downstairs to meet George Gavin first. Or something like that.
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Leeds at home, perfect. Feckin hate Leeds.
Tsk
Draw coming up and our satellite signal is playing silly buggers because of the rain.
Ours is too.
But only on SS1 and no other channels.
How does that work?
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Get fkn on with it.
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Leeds at home, perfect. Feckin hate Leeds.
Tsk
Draw coming up and our satellite signal is playing silly buggers because of the rain.
Ours is too.
But only on SS1 and no other channels.
How does that work?
snap
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No idea. Ours seems ok now. I wish they'd just get on with it.
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October 31st.
Oooooh...
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Leeds at home, perfect. Feckin hate Leeds.
Tsk
Draw coming up and our satellite signal is playing silly buggers because of the rain.
Ours is too.
But only on SS1 and no other channels.
How does that work?
Try SSN.
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Different frequencies get hit by different atmospheric conditions. Lots of channels will remain unaffected.
You're welcome!
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Different frequencies get hit by different atmospheric conditions. Lots of channels will remain unaffected.
You're welcome!
I thank you.
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No idea. Ours seems ok now. I wish they'd just get on with it.
So is ours!!
Do you live next door villajk?!
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I need a wee
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Leeds at home, perfect. Feckin hate Leeds.
Tsk
Draw coming up and our satellite signal is playing silly buggers because of the rain.
Ours is too.
But only on SS1 and no other channels.
How does that work?
Try SSN.
I'm not in charge of the remote control.
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In those suits those pair look like those Victorians from the Olympic opening ceremony.
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Ad break. FFS.
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Draw is after the break.
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Dwight is on his way downstairs.
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'Happening within the next 3 or 4 minutes' according to Goldstein.
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Some bellend on the BBC website has just texted: "Just give the final to Arsenal and Chelsea now. They've earned it!"
Apparently, scraping through your cup ties is a sign of superiority in Sussex.
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Alan Smith, Dwight and George Gavin should see a good draw for the Villa. . .
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Yeah have a feeling we'll get Leeds at home aswell. Lovely for a midweek with 6k of them coming down....
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Come on Sky, sort your signal out.
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Just give a quarter-final to Arsenal and Chelsea now.
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It;ll be Swansea.
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Swansea away.
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Just give a quarter-final to Arsenal and Chelsea now.
Good call.
Great, Old Red Head is on now.
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Norwich.
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Leeds away, maybe Norwich away is what I expect. But I want Bradford at home so much, pleeeeeeeeeease. Make it an early Xmas present, i'll be good, honest!
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How much longer? YAWN!
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Oh fuk off Taggart and get on with the draw.
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Now a haunted Goodison Park is more important than the draw!
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He always sounds pissed to me.
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Bradford at Vp would be lovely
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Yorkie must be shit at stairs.
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I just want a home draw. These night away game are so tiring.
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Can people stop posting things like 'Swansea away' as if the draws been made. I'm following it on here.
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How long are they keeping him on for?!! Fuk me we don't get this much coverage including the match when we are on.
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Here we go.
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Fuck. Chelsea away.
*just for Percy* ;)
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About bloody time.
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Swansea away.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Fukin traitor Smith will draw us away to the Arse.
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We're Aston Villa, we're number 2.
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Dwight and a Kings Norton lad... what could possibly go wrong.
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talksport are talking to some fucking Spurs fan
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1 v 2
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It's very simple lads. All you have to do is draw is #2 Aston Villa, will play #3. It's that easy.
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Leeds v Chelsea
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Swansea v Boro
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Norwich vAston villa
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Norwich v Villa Told you. !!
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Norwich City away. Booo!
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Tasty
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Fcukin Sky.
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Fuk me. I wonder how many times in every major cup competition we have been drawn away since the war.
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Oh well, it was nice to have a half decent cup run.
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Norwich away on a weekday in the middle of December.
Fan-bloody-tastic.
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Balls.
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And Arsenal v Bradford???? Who mentioned the fixed draws a few pages back???
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Away yet again.
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I just said to the wife Norwich away, fuckin predictable
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Its winable ;) Jammy Arsenal
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Nightmare. Overnight stay I think for this one.
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I'm convinced the league cup draw is fixed in order to create grudge ties or ties with a bit of a story. If that is true they're probably a bit worried by the lack of SKY 4 teams. Therefore we'll avoid the big guns but get Norwich due to the Lambert "story". Then there'll be Bradford v Boro to ensure there's a plucky lower division club in the semi.
Spot on Nostradamus!!
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Would you believe it, Arsenal get the easiest team. I truly am starting to believe in the fix.
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I'd say that's doable. Could have been a lot worse. Can't really say Arsenal don't deserve an easy one.
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That'll be a tasty one. I had a feeling we'd get them, hoped it was in the semis though.
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I am not a man of violence, but I'd dearly love to set about that ****** Jamie Redknapp with a cricket bat.
With nails in it.
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Balls.
This
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What a fuckin fix,fucking arsenal get the easiest game going
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Could be worse, I suppose, but not an easy journey midweek
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Would you believe it, Arsenal get the easiest team. I truly am starting to believe in the fix.
The odds were pretty high that Arsenal or Chelsea would get Bradford.
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Winnable (though not if we play like the last game against them)!
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I am not a man of violence, but I'd dearly love to set about that c*** Jamie Redknapp with a cricket bat.
With nails in it.
You mean you'd smash it?
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Pissed off I probably won't be going, but a decent draw for us.
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I'd say that's doable. Could have been a lot worse. Can't really say Arsenal don't deserve an easy one.
Yes you can. Had they bothered to turn up in the first half last night they wouldn't have had to score 7 goals to win their game.
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(bear in mind it would have been away at Spurs if they hadn't won!)
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We can beat Norwich! We beat Man City away - and how many of us thought we'd do that? Keep the faith! UTV.
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I'd say that's doable. Could have been a lot worse. Can't really say Arsenal don't deserve an easy one.
Yes you can. Had they bothered to turn up in the first half last night they wouldn't have had to score 7 goals to win their game.
Well they only needed 6 to win to be fair. That seventh was an added kick in the bollocks.
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I'm quietly confident we'll win. Norwich will be so over confident, we're bound to upset the apple cart. Can but dream.
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Tasty game but I'd rather play them than Spurs.
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We can beat Norwich! We beat Man City away - and how many of us thought we'd do that? Keep the faith! UTV.
I thought we'd beat Southampton too.
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Could be worse, I suppose, but not an easy journey midweek
Not doable by train for us.
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Shame Arsenal didn't get Chelsea but they can have each other in the semis. We'll have Swansea or Boro after we ruthlessly see off Norwich.
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As long as we have 11 men and finish our chances , we will be ok.
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Tough game but we can beat them.
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We won at Man City in this competition already.
Of course we can go and win at Norwich.
Lest we forget, we are currently shite, and Norwich couldn't beat us despite us being so grim, and playing a chunk of the game with 10 men.
I am as worried as the next man about our shiteness, but really, defeatism over a cup draw away at Norwich City?
A bit of spine please, gents.
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On the plus side, the only win I can remember us getting at Norwich was in the LC QF. And this time there will be no Kevin Richardson to cheat us in the semi.
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One day we will get the Red Lion B team at home in a cup draw.
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I can guarantee two things.
1. It will finish on the night.
2. Bent won't start.
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Easy draw. See no reason why we wouldn't win. Planning fr semi final now.
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And let's stop all this talk of fixing too ffs. It's clearly not fixed for Sky 4 clubs to get easy draws - look at the round just gone. It's just random.
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And let's stop all this talk of fixing too ffs. It's clearly not fixed for Sky 4 clubs to get easy draws - look at the round just gone. It's just random.
Absolutely.
It's hard to believe anyone really thinks it is fixed, having just watched the previous two hours or so on Sky Sports.
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We won at Man City in this competition already.
Of course we can go and win at Norwich.
Lest we forget, we are currently shite, and Norwich couldn't beat us despite us being so grim, and playing a chunk of the game with 10 men.
I am as worried as the next man about our shiteness, but really, defeatism over a cup draw away at Norwich City?
A bit of spine please, gents.
My current pessimism is based on our record there. I'd have felt the same if we were 20 points clear at the top and Norwich were bottom of the Conference and we drew them in the FA Cup.
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Might they put on the jinxed free coaches for this? 3rd time lucky?
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I'd say the oil companies are in control of the draw, there's some big Diesel/Petrol bills for the travelling fans in those ties. Chelsea's trip to Leeds the only one I'd have any faith in there being even a chance of getting there and back on a train midweek.
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It could have been worse. There'll be an extra spice to the game that will ensure we'll take it seriously. I'm happy enough with that.
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We were terrible against Norwich and had ten men for a long time. And they still could not beat us. We can beat them with a full team and a different approach. Fairly happy with that .....
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Might they put on the jinxed free coaches for this? 3rd time lucky?
You forgot Sunderland.
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Out of the 7 clubs we could have got, I'd say Norwich would have been my my fourth choice. Away doesn't help but we've been to tougher places and won. Reasonably content with it.
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Absolutely right Nuts! 50/50 draw and we are away from home. You have to do these things if you want a trip to Wembley.
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We won at Man City in this competition already.
Of course we can go and win at Norwich.
Lest we forget, we are currently shite, and Norwich couldn't beat us despite us being so grim, and playing a chunk of the game with 10 men.
I am as worried as the next man about our shiteness, but really, defeatism over a cup draw away at Norwich City?
A bit of spine please, gents.
My current pessimism is based on our record there. I'd have felt the same if we were 20 points clear at the top and Norwich were bottom of the Conference and we drew them in the FA Cup.
We've only played there twice in the last 15 years plus, and drawn one, lost one.
Not the best of records, admittedly, but we could have been looking at a tie with Chelsea or Arsenal right now.
I'd also rather go and play away at Norwich than Leeds. I can see PL getting us pumped for that one, whereas Leeds would just be like last night, except with a more elevated chance of cacking it up.
It's not the easiest tie, but it's not really daunting.
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What sort of team did Norwich play against Spurs tonight? Full strength?
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I did. I thought only chelsk & arse had been free. Even better if the free coaches aren't jinxed! I think its the best way of getting a good level of support over there midweek.
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Could be worse.
And to me, it'still the league cup, I don't care what mickey mouse sponsorship its got, that's just another sign of how the moneymen have polluted our wonderful game.
Here's a question - how many different names has it had over the years?
God, I'm a grumpy old git.
UTV
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Might they put on the jinxed free coaches for this? 3rd time lucky?
I sincerely hope not.
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What sort of team did Norwich play against Spurs tonight? Full strength?
Not exactly their first choice.
Norwich City
28 Bunn Booked
03 Whittaker
06 Turner
23 Tierney
24 R Bennett
08 Howson
11 Surman (Holt - 82' )
15 Fox (Tettey - 68' )
21 Butterfield (Jackson - 68' )
07 Snodgrass
16 Morison
Substitutes
13 Rudd
18 Garrido
20 Barnett
17 E Bennett
27 Tettey
09 Holt
10 Jackson
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We won at Man City in this competition already.
Of course we can go and win at Norwich.
Lest we forget, we are currently shite, and Norwich couldn't beat us despite us being so grim, and playing a chunk of the game with 10 men.
I am as worried as the next man about our shiteness, but really, defeatism over a cup draw away at Norwich City?
A bit of spine please, gents.
My current pessimism is based on our record there. I'd have felt the same if we were 20 points clear at the top and Norwich were bottom of the Conference and we drew them in the FA Cup.
We've only played there twice in the last 15 years plus, and drawn one, lost one.
Not the best of records, admittedly, but we could have been looking at a tie with Chelsea or Arsenal right now.
I'd also rather go and play away at Norwich than Leeds. I can see PL getting us pumped for that one, whereas Leeds would just be like last night, except with a more elevated chance of cacking it up.
It's not the easiest tie, but it's not really daunting.
I'd have preferred Arsenal!
I've just had a quick scan and the only win I can see we've had there since we won the league was the LC QF in 84. Surely we must have won 1 other game there? We've played them over a dozen times.
Still, maybe it's an omen that we only win in the LC there?
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Course we can fucking win, its norwich city ffs! Some of the negative comments on here are a complete joke! It could have been a lot, lot worse..
Looks like this could be an over nighter, i just hope they don't put it on sky so we take over the place.
In lambert we trust!
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Here's a question - how many different names has it had over the years
UTV
Period Sponsor Name
1960–1982 No main sponsor Football League Cup
1982–1986 Milk Marketing Board Milk Cup
1986–1990 Littlewoods (retailer) Littlewoods Challenge Cup
1990–1992 Rumbelows (former retailer) Rumbelows Cup
1992–1998 Coca-Cola (soft drink)[8] Coca-Cola Cup
1998–2003 Worthington's (brewer)[9] Worthington Cup
2003–2012 Molson Coors (brewer)[10] Carling Cup
2012–2016 Capital One (credit card)[11] Capital One Cup
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I'm not worried about beating them. I'm just pissed off that it's a game 4 hours away on a Wednesday night in the middle of December.
I'd be well happy if Norwich happened to be where Coventry is.
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I'm not worried about beating them. I'm just pissed off that it's a game 4 hours away on a Wednesday night in the middle of December.
I'd be well happy if Norwich happened to be where Coventry is.
Norwich wouldn't.
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I am not a man of violence, but I'd dearly love to set about that c*** Jamie Redknapp with a cricket bat.
With nails in it.
You mean you'd smash it?
clappy thing.
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I'm not worried about beating them. I'm just pissed off that it's a game 4 hours away on a Wednesday night in the middle of December.
I'd be well happy if Norwich happened to be where Coventry is.
Try living in Shrewsbury, it's even further.
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It's the draw I thought we'd get and I think we'll win it. Gutted to have avoided Bradford but we'll probably do better against them over two legs in the semi than we would have in the quarters. How nice would a semi final line up of Boro', Bradford, Leeds and Villa be?
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Here's a question - how many different names has it had over the years
UTV
Period Sponsor Name
1960–1982 No main sponsor Football League Cup
1982–1986 Milk Marketing Board Milk Cup
1986–1990 Littlewoods (retailer) Littlewoods Challenge Cup
1990–1992 Rumbelows (former retailer) Rumbelows Cup
1992–1998 Coca-Cola (soft drink)[8] Coca-Cola Cup
1998–2003 Worthington's (brewer)[9] Worthington Cup
2003–2012 Molson Coors (brewer)[10] Carling Cup
2012–2016 Capital One (credit card)[11] Capital One Cup
I think 'Carling Cup' has been the best one. Rolls off the tongue far better than any of the others.
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And let's stop all this talk of fixing too ffs. It's clearly not fixed for Sky 4 clubs to get easy draws - look at the round just gone. It's just random.
I didn't mean fixed so a big club would win it, more that there were lots of games that were potentially good games for TV, games that had a compelling narrative, which would attract attention to the competition and therefore attract advertising revenues and boost the cup's profile.
Do I genuinely think it's fixed? Probably not. Do I care if it was? No, it's ultimately entertainment.
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I'm not worried about beating them. I'm just pissed off that it's a game 4 hours away on a Wednesday night in the middle of December.
I'd be well happy if Norwich happened to be where Coventry is.
Norwich wouldn't.
Randy would be in favour of it.
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Here's a question - how many different names has it had over the years
UTV
Period Sponsor Name
1960–1982 No main sponsor Football League Cup
1982–1986 Milk Marketing Board Milk Cup
1986–1990 Littlewoods (retailer) Littlewoods Challenge Cup
1990–1992 Rumbelows (former retailer) Rumbelows Cup
1992–1998 Coca-Cola (soft drink)[8] Coca-Cola Cup
1998–2003 Worthington's (brewer)[9] Worthington Cup
2003–2012 Molson Coors (brewer)[10] Carling Cup
2012–2016 Capital One (credit card)[11] Capital One Cup
Cheers aftab, now there's a trip down memory lane!
As for Norwich, I am confident provided more width is used in attack. Two out of our 3 goals last night were from crosses and Benteke seems to thrive off them.
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Rather Norwich than Spurs which it would have been. Both teams will think its winnable, should be a good tie.
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What allocation will we get for that? 6,000?
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Bring it. Fucking mustard-humpers. Norwich ring road is rubbish, and the name of their river - the Wensum - is utterly laughable.
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Bring it. Fucking mustard-humpers. Norwich ring road is rubbish, and the name of their river - the Wensum - is utterly laughable.
Some spectacular put downs there!!! ;)
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Bring it. Fucking mustard-humpers. Norwich ring road is rubbish, and the name of their river - the Wensum - is utterly laughable.
As a distinguished alumnus of the University of East Anglia, I feel that it's my solemn...oh fuck it. Puppet Man, Cacky Raphael, John Cleese, Malcolm Bradbury, Admiral Nelson - you bunch of sister-fuckers are going to get one-nilled all over Elm Hill, hent it.
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Bring it. Fucking mustard-humpers. Norwich ring road is rubbish, and the name of their river - the Wensum - is utterly laughable.
Hard to argue with that. Delia's hot cross buns are lovely though.
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What allocation will we get for that? 6,000?
I seriously doubt we'll take that many, possibly 3000 ?
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Well, being based in the North I'd rather have liked one of the three Yorkshire / Teeside teams, but we managed to avoid all of them.
Not the worst draw, though (which is probably what the Ooooh-Aaargh fans are thinking).
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Could have been better but could have been worse- Norwich made 10 changes against spurs and beat a strong spurs team- I'd expect lambert to play his strongest side but doubt hughton will do so, certainly we have a real chance but sorry to see arsenal and Chelsea get drawn to lower league teams.
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Could have been easier. A home draw would have been nice. But a draw I will take and a game we will win.
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Could have been better but could have been worse- Norwich made 10 changes against spurs and beat a strong spurs team- I'd expect lambert to play his strongest side but doubt hughton will do so, certainly we have a real chance but sorry to see arsenal and Chelsea get drawn to lower league teams.
I think Arsenals names on this cup,unfortunately
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Let's relive the 84 game. Massive following, comfortable victory, the last hurrah of the Villa arse slasher (I think).
We went early in the morning and spent all day in an unattended snooker hall helping ourselves to the bar and emptying the fruit machines.
It says a lot about the age of the average football hooligan in those days that the anarchy only stopped for half-an-hour when Grange Hill came on the telly.
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both teams will think its winnable,
the away draw doesnt bother me as we are not very good at home, whereas away we can relax a bit more with less pressure and hopefully put in a performance like Newcastle, Man city rather than Southampton.
its a proper 50/50 tie, all to play for
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Any news on whether it will be chosen for TV?
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Any news on whether it will be chosen for TV?
I imagine the tv will concentrate on arsenal & Chelsea
Better for us if we stay beneath the radar
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An away draw in a quarter final - there's a surprise. Has been ever thus since the 70's as far as I can remember.
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We can win this.
We're showing good resilience in the cup and Norwich are pretty poor, we will have learnt how to handle them after that terrible game last Saturday.
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Norwich only scored when we had 10 men on the pitch and I'd go as far as saying that was one of the worst performances this season. They can't handle Benteke
We'll win, Bring on Boro away in the semis
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Norwich only scored when we had 10 men on the pitch and I'd go as far as saying that was one of the worst performances this season. They can't handle Benteke
We'll win, Bring on Boro away in the semis
What about the home leg? Don't you fancy that?
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This is very winnable, should be interesting.
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We should get a few allocation wise, they only had 16k last night, it all depends if you want to drive to norwich on a wed night
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An away draw in a quarter final - there's a surprise. Has been ever thus since the 70's as far as I can remember.
Didn't we beat Wolves at home in a quarter in either 94 or 96? Tommy Johnson scored the winner in front of the Holte iirc?
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We should get a few allocation wise, they only had 16k last night, it all depends if you want to drive to norwich on a wed night
Any indication of the date yet?
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We should get a few allocation wise, they only had 16k last night, it all depends if you want to drive to norwich on a wed night
Any indication of the date yet?
Should be Weds 12/12/12............
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It could have been worse.
If we can string a bit of form together between now and then we can do it.
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We should get a few allocation wise, they only had 16k last night, it all depends if you want to drive to norwich on a wed night
Any indication of the date yet?
Should be Weds 12/12/12............
03/03/03 was a very dark day for our club.
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Any news on whether it will be chosen for TV?
I imagine the tv will concentrate on arsenal & Chelsea
Better for us if we stay beneath the radar
The Chelsea match is the following week due to them being involved in the World Club Challenge (so will play Leeds midweek before playing us!). Therefore, if there are 2 television slots they only have 3 games to pick from, and I would imagine Bradford's match will be one of them.
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An away draw in a quarter final - there's a surprise. Has been ever thus since the 70's as far as I can remember.
Didn't we beat Wolves at home in a quarter in either 94 or 96? Tommy Johnson scored the winner in front of the Holte iirc?
On the road to the win in '96
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I think Arsenals names on this cup,unfortunately
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Not as many times as ours
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Let's relive the 84 game. Massive following, comfortable victory, the last hurrah of the Villa arse slasher (I think).
We went early in the morning and spent all day in an unattended snooker hall helping ourselves to the bar and emptying the fruit machines.
It says a lot about the age of the average football hooligan in those days that the anarchy only stopped for half-an-hour when Grange Hill came on the telly.
This
8.05am train out of New Street - pub by 12.15 until 2.45 (remember afternoon closing ?) then walking down the street wondering how to kill some time to be invited to a 'beer tasting' in some side street hotel (where one of the market researchers remarked that one of our party had "had quite enought already") before back to the pub and then a top result. All capped off by blagging a lift home on one of the coaches last train having long gone.
Oh to be 19 again.
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Any news on whether it will be chosen for TV?
I imagine the tv will concentrate on arsenal & Chelsea
Better for us if we stay beneath the radar
The Chelsea match is the following week due to them being involved in the World Club Challenge (so will play Leeds midweek before playing us!). Therefore, if there are 2 television slots they only have 3 games to pick from, and I would imagine Bradford's match will be one of them.
Why would there be 2 television slots? Did sky show 2 Rd 4 games?
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Any news on whether it will be chosen for TV?
I imagine the tv will concentrate on arsenal & Chelsea
Better for us if we stay beneath the radar
The Chelsea match is the following week due to them being involved in the World Club Challenge (so will play Leeds midweek before playing us!). Therefore, if there are 2 television slots they only have 3 games to pick from, and I would imagine Bradford's match will be one of them.
Why would there be 2 television slots? Did sky show 2 Rd 4 games?
They only showed 2 this week
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Then I'd say there's a good chance our game will be on TV
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I can't see Sky passing up the opportunity of showing Lambert's return to Norwich. If it is on the tellybox, i can definatley see free coaches being put on.
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I can't see Sky passing up the opportunity of showing Lambert's return to Norwich. If it is on the tellybox, i can definatley see free coaches being put on.
I think Leeds v Chelsea and Bradford v arsenal are Certs to be televised- would be extremely surprised if villa are chosen.
I think sky are only allowed to show 2 live games each round, so they would just show Leeds v Chelsea the following week.
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Confirmed on LC website, our game NOT on tv, they've gone with Arsenal & Chelsea.
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The two TV games are Bradford v Arsenal on 11th December and Leeds v Chelsea on 19th December. Frankly staggered our game isn't on, but I guess that makes up some minds to get over to Norwich and fill our allocation?.
I was debating whether to go, simply because it's such a ballache to get to and from, especially in midweek, but ticket permitting I will definitely be there for this. I was another one who was at the Quarter Final in 1984 and the thing that I remember most was "The Bells are Ringing" making a welcome return that evening. Sung for what seemed an eternity as we won 2-0 (Rideout??) and surged to the Semi Finals. Great win, because I think we had been humped a week earlier 3-0 at the same place in an FA Cup 3rd Round Replay.
UTV !!!
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The two TV games are Bradford v Arsenal on 11th December and Leeds v Chelsea on 19th December. Frankly staggered our game isn't on, but I guess that makes up some minds to get over to Norwich and fill our allocation?.
I was debating whether to go, simply because it's such a ballache to get to and from, especially in midweek, but ticket permitting I will definitely be there for this. I was another one who was at the Quarter Final in 1984 and the thing that I remember most was "The Bells are Ringing" making a welcome return that evening. Sung for what seemed an eternity as we won 2-0 (Rideout??) and surged to the Semi Finals. Great win, because I think we had been humped a week earlier 3-0 at the same place in an FA Cup 3rd Round Replay.
UTV !!!
I still remember that handball on the line in the semi at Goodson that denied withe a goal - dreadful decision.
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only down the road so to speak, so will be definitely going...never seen us win there sadly.
UTV
The Doc
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Yes, I went to both games. After the FA Cup game I was telling every Norwich fan I saw 'wait til next time, we'll take over the fucking place', and I was right. 'The Bells' was awesome that night. I think we only took about 250 in the FA Cup.
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Here's a question - how many different names has it had over the years
UTV
Period Sponsor Name
1960–1982 No main sponsor Football League Cup
1982–1986 Milk Marketing Board Milk Cup
1986–1990 Littlewoods (retailer) Littlewoods Challenge Cup
1990–1992 Rumbelows (former retailer) Rumbelows Cup
1992–1998 Coca-Cola (soft drink)[8] Coca-Cola Cup
1998–2003 Worthington's (brewer)[9] Worthington Cup
2003–2012 Molson Coors (brewer)[10] Carling Cup
2012–2016 Capital One (credit card)[11] Capital One Cup
I think 'Carling Cup' has been the best one. Rolls off the tongue far better than any of the others.
I refuse to call it anything but "The League Cup"
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Yes, I went to both games. After the FA Cup game I was telling every Norwich fan I saw 'wait til next time, we'll take over the fucking place', and I was right. 'The Bells' was awesome that night. I think we only took about 250 in the FA Cup.
The most disturbing part of this is that it was nearly 29 years ago and I remember it all very clearly, apart from not being sure on the scorers. Where have all those years gone too :-)
Anyway, I think we will take as many as they give us to this game and hoping we can get 4k or so tickets?. Really looking forward to it and so glad I have a spare half day to use on my holiday allocation
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I've always fancied a night out midweek in Gt Yarmouth in December ;-)
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8.05am train out of New Street - pub by 12.15 until 2.45 (remember afternoon closing ?) then walking down the street wondering how to kill some time to be invited to a 'beer tasting' in some side street hotel (where one of the market researchers remarked that one of our party had "had quite enought already") before back to the pub and then a top result. All capped off by blagging a lift home on one of the coaches last train having long gone.
Oh to be 19 again.
Yes, I managed to blag a lift on a coach home after getting that train. We managed to find a pub open in the afternoon too. A great day.
Yes, I went to both games. After the FA Cup game I was telling every Norwich fan I saw 'wait til next time, we'll take over the fucking place', and I was right. 'The Bells' was awesome that night. I think we only took about 250 in the FA Cup.
Yes Perce, I thought of that League cup game as soon as I saw the draw last night. 'The Bells' always reminds me of that night in Norwich. It seemed to be sang constantly through the game.
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Yes, I went to both games. After the FA Cup game I was telling every Norwich fan I saw 'wait til next time, we'll take over the fucking place', and I was right. 'The Bells' was awesome that night. I think we only took about 250 in the FA Cup.
The most disturbing part of this is that it was nearly 29 years ago and I remember it all very clearly, apart from not being sure on the scorers. Where have all those years gone too :-)
Anyway, I think we will take as many as they give us to this game and hoping we can get 4k or so tickets?. Really looking forward to it and so glad I have a spare half day to use on my holiday allocation
No the disturbing thing is knowing I was definitely there but not being able to remember it!
I do remember Pompey away in the first round clearly though, and the semi at Goodison.
As for our allocation Spurs got 3,500 at £30 each last night so we'll probably get the same but with added Lambert compensation tax.
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I was there but can't remember much after about 1973. The fact that beer addles the brain may have something to do with it.
I remember a night match there in the 70s when they ran a Special. Usual mouth like a parrots cage after a few beers earlier. Some blokes got on, who had the the ground early, with a curry and some cans. Jealous or what?!
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Here's a question - how many different names has it had over the years
UTV
Period Sponsor Name
1960–1982 No main sponsor Football League Cup
1982–1986 Milk Marketing Board Milk Cup
1986–1990 Littlewoods (retailer) Littlewoods Challenge Cup
1990–1992 Rumbelows (former retailer) Rumbelows Cup
1992–1998 Coca-Cola (soft drink)[8] Coca-Cola Cup
1998–2003 Worthington's (brewer)[9] Worthington Cup
2003–2012 Molson Coors (brewer)[10] Carling Cup
2012–2016 Capital One (credit card)[11] Capital One Cup
I think 'Carling Cup' has been the best one. Rolls off the tongue far better than any of the others.
I refuse to call it anything but "The League Cup"
If I remember correctly the Milk Cup and Littlewoods Cup had their own trophies. I also seem to remember one year of the Milk Cup Liverpool being presented with both trophies. I can't remember if it was just something they did in the early years of the Milk Cup or if one of them was to keep as they won the competition four years running. I think from Rumbelows onwards they have just stuck with the one traditional League Cup trophy.
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8.05am train out of New Street - pub by 12.15 until 2.45 (remember afternoon closing ?) then walking down the street wondering how to kill some time to be invited to a 'beer tasting' in some side street hotel (where one of the market researchers remarked that one of our party had "had quite enought already") before back to the pub and then a top result. All capped off by blagging a lift home on one of the coaches last train having long gone.
Oh to be 19 again.
Yes, I managed to blag a lift on a coach home after getting that train. We managed to find a pub open in the afternoon too. A great day.
Yes, I went to both games. After the FA Cup game I was telling every Norwich fan I saw 'wait til next time, we'll take over the fucking place', and I was right. 'The Bells' was awesome that night. I think we only took about 250 in the FA Cup.
Yes Perce, I thought of that League cup game as soon as I saw the draw last night. 'The Bells' always reminds me of that night in Norwich. It seemed to be sang constantly through the game.
I went on the Sutton Lions Club coach and we sang 'The Bells' all the way back to Brum, 5 hours continuously. Just when you thought it was going to stop, another group on the coach would keep it going. Coach driver must have been well pissed off but it goes down as one of my favourite away days ever.
I think we played them at home on the Wednesday but only managed a draw. Then played them away on the Saturday and drew again. If memory serves we then played them on the following Tuesday night and thousands turned up, a bit like the Old Trafford game in 88(?), for some reason so many Villa fans just decided to go and what a night. I remember early on in the game and it looked like we'd lost Rideout to an injury, only for him to reappear. After that there was only ever going to be one winner.
The less said about Goodison, the better.
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Goodison? The game was bad, granted, but what an exciting trip all round.
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Goodison? The game was bad, granted, but what an exciting trip all round.
Yes very nasty atmosphere wasn't it?. Remember that game and the game in the title winning season being preceded by two of the maddest coin fights ever. Never seen so many pieces of silver flying through the air. I'm sure we had the whole of the one end and some on the side as well, but Everton just seemed to bring twice as many to our place and had the whole Witton Lane if I remember, as well as behind the goal at the North Stand.
Think on balance, the Norwich trip was better :-)
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Any indication of the date yet?
Should be Weds 12/12/12............
03/03/03 was a very dark day for our club.
Until recently you could still see Dion's studmarks on the door of the Villa dressing room, which he'd kicked open after being sent off on 03/03/03
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I wouldn't say it was a dark day in our history. It was just a defeat, and they all feel the same to me.
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Fair enough Damon, but I bet you wouldn't say that if you lived on Chelmsley.
At the very least I hoped to see a couple of my mates with black eyes the next day.
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Fair enough Damon, but I bet you wouldn't say that if you lived on Chelmsley.
At the very least I hoped to see a couple of my mates with black eyes the next day.
You are probably right.
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Tuesday, 11th December. 7.45 pm ko
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Home tickets are priced at £25 for adults, £15 for over-65s and £5 for under-16s, so i'm assuming ours should be similar?
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Home tickets are priced at £25 for adults, £15 for over-65s and £5 for under-16s, so i'm assuming ours should be similar?
should be exactly the same.........
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Tuesday, 11th December. 7.45 pm ko
Thanks, Pauline. Hotel booked
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Tuesday, 11th December. 7.45 pm ko
Thanks, Pauline. Hotel booked
Wait until DC5 finds out!
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Tuesday, 11th December. 7.45 pm ko
Thanks, Pauline. Hotel booked
Wait until DC5 finds out!
DCF and myself are on the train to Newcastle guffawing like two school kids at this.
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Tuesday, 11th December. 7.45 pm ko
Thanks, Pauline. Hotel booked
Wait until DC5 finds out!
No worries, he's booked mine.
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A menage a trois?
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When did this place change to Heroes & Swingers?
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I have noticed that some of our away supporters are very friendly...to each other!
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You lot have just put a whole new meaning on playing away.
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The swinging scene in Norfolk is very lively. 'Sister-swapping' they call it.
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They play the film Deliverence at all of Norwich's cinemas every Friday night.