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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: VillaAlways on October 04, 2012, 11:09:57 PM
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By John PercyLast Updated: 10:38PM BST 04/10/2012
Paul Lambert's row with former club Norwich City escalated on Thursday night after he was accused of demanding £2 million for unfair dismissal.
Lambert is said to be taking Norwich to a tribunal after his acrimonious departure to Aston Villa with his old chairman, Alan Bowkett, insisting he is also demanding a significant fee for breach of contract.
Villa appointed Lambert in June but were adamant they did not need to pay compensation as the Scot had resigned before talks took place. Lambert had claimed that the terms of his deal enabled him to talk to any interested Premier League club but Norwich are determined to fight their corner.
Bowkett said at a fans forum on Thursday night: "The manner of Paul Lambert's departure is no surprise because he's walked out on every club he's ever managed.
"You can't complain because you know what you're getting but I felt he could have left in a more dignified manner."
Lambert will face his former club at Villa Park on October 27.
Villa were unavailable for comment on Thursday night.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/9588366/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lamberts-row-with-Norwich-City-escalates-over-2m-unfair-dismissal-demand.html
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All sounds pretty unpleasant.
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Rings a lot of Martin O'Neill-shaped bells.
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Just when the comparisons to Woody Allen's eccentric love child were beginning to die down.
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I wish he wasn't embroiled in this sort of mess as no doubt it will affect his focus on Villa job.
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Only in the world of football could a manager walk out on a club and then get £2m for unfair dismissal. I love the bloke and what he's trying to do here but I have sympathy with Norwich over this one.
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Devil's advocate but I reckon I might be a nasty bastard for 2million
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Should add a bit more spice to our game against them in a couple of weeks. They'll be coming to Villa Park with their pitchforks at the ready!!
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"Bowkett said at a fans forum on Thursday night: "The manner of Paul Lambert's departure is no surprise because he's walked out on every club he's ever managed."
Good job he was unemployed when Norwich hired him otherwise that would come across as petty. Oh wait ......
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If Lambert did indeed have a clause in his contract allowing him to talk to any PL club and Norwich reneged on it then they deserve all they get.
Slightly different to O'Neill.
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Agree completely with the above comment. His contract said he could talk to other clubs, his bosses tried to stop him. They broke the terms of the deal, he has every right to do this.
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Its interesting how this story has surfaced with a game against them just round the corner isn't it.
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Interested to hear what basis his claim is for given, on the surface it looks like he left them to join us once the opportunity arose. Then again we'll probably never find out.
The money floating round football these days is so bloated that £2m doesnt really hit the radar. crazy.
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I've also walked out on every employer I've ever had except my current one. The shame.
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Didn't he leave because of breach of contract? Plus its true that he isn't particularly popular with clubs he's managed and subsequently left.
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The 'clause' was probably in Lambert's contract prior to him becomming a Premier League manager with Norwich, more fool them. They should have had some sort of counter-clause in his contract that retracted this clause if he became a Premier League manager with Norwich.
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Shame
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it seems incredibly short-sighted if norwich didn't renegotiate his contract when they got promoted to the premier league to remove that clause.
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Norwich are still claiming compensation from Villa aren't they? Considering this counter claim I can see an 'out of courter' on the horizon.
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Funny how Norwich are taking the morale high ground when they done something very similar to Colchester.
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well the club have pissed away millions on MON, houllier and the other one, whats another couple of million?
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Interesting he's now said that Norwich are in fact suing him.
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http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/10/05/villa-boss-paul-lambert-confirms-he-is-being-sued-by-norwaich/
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http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/10/05/villa-boss-paul-lambert-confirms-he-is-being-sued-by-norwaich/
Massive Sour Grapes after reading that... Norwich are just cheesed off they have started off worse than us this season.
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Sounds like that Bowkett bloke has been taking lessons from Dave Whelan.
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I quite like Norwich, but there is a reason Alan Partridge is on the radio there.
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“The manner of Paul Lambert's departure is no surprise because he's walked out on every club he's ever managed. You can't complain because you know what you're getting but I felt he could have left in a more dignified manner.”
Sounds like he's doing more than just complaining.
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I think this is incredibly amusing given that McNally was so bullish with his comments.
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Bowkett said at a fans forum on Thursday night: "The manner of Paul Lambert's departure is no surprise because he's walked out on every club he's ever managed.
"You can't complain because you know what you're getting but I felt he could have left in a more dignified manner."
I think in hindsight Bowkett might re-tractor that statement. Good luck to Lambert but £2million does seem a bit John Deere.
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Norwich are still claiming compensation from Villa aren't they? Considering this counter claim I can see an 'out of courter' on the horizon.
Two different things.
Norwich are chasing Villa for compensation.
Lambert's claim for unfair dismissal is nothing to do with Villa.
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Norwich are still claiming compensation from Villa aren't they? Considering this counter claim I can see an 'out of courter' on the horizon.
Two different things.
Norwich are chasing Villa for compensation.
Lambert's claim for unfair dismissal is nothing to do with Villa.
However in that article from the Express & Star Lambert appears to be saying Norwich are suing him personally.
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The more I read about PL the happier I am with him, he doesn't pull any punches or suffer fools... whether it is Bent or Bowker, don't mess with him.
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Norwich are still claiming compensation from Villa aren't they? Considering this counter claim I can see an 'out of courter' on the horizon.
Two different things.
Norwich are chasing Villa for compensation.
Lambert's claim for unfair dismissal is nothing to do with Villa.
However in that article from the Express & Star Lambert appears to be saying Norwich are suing him personally.
Even if they are suing him personally, that is his own personal business, and nothing to do with Villa, so Villa will have no bargaining chips to use in an out of court agreement.
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Norwich are still claiming compensation from Villa aren't they? Considering this counter claim I can see an 'out of courter' on the horizon.
Two different things.
Norwich are chasing Villa for compensation.
Lambert's claim for unfair dismissal is nothing to do with Villa.
However in that article from the Express & Star Lambert appears to be saying Norwich are suing him personally.
personal business, and nothing to do with Villa, so Villa will have no bargaining chips to use in an out of court agreement.
Even if they are suing him personally, that is his own
Norwich are still claiming compensation from Villa aren't they? Considering this counter claim I can see an 'out of courter' on the horizon.
Two different things.
Norwich are chasing Villa for compensation.
Lambert's claim for unfair dismissal is nothing to do with Villa.
However in that article from the Express & Star Lambert appears to be saying Norwich are suing him personally.
Even if they are suing him personally, that is his own personal business, and nothing to do with Villa, so Villa will have no bargaining chips to use in an out of court agreement.
I think if he won a case for unfair dismissal that may be a very nice bargaining chip for Villa.
I see things like this.
McNasty messed up, PL called the breach of contract, PL leaves, McNasty is more worried about his reputation uses twitter to salvage said reputation, continues to play tough guy sues Villa and PL, Villa and PL leave things to their legal teams and counter claim in order to hammer home to Norwich the futility of their case, Bowkett goes to a fans forum and bleats aboutPL's counter claim, PL's confidence in the arbitration deciding in his favor are proven correct, McNasty learns the hard way pride comes before a fall, Villa offer Norwich the opportunity to drop their case.... at this point in time we and the Norwich fans how far under the bus "McNasty" is prepared to throw their club to save face for not reading PL's contract
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amazing how many people on here have apparently seen a copy of Lamberts contract.
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Recommend that Paul sends the Norwich chairman a case of really nice cabernet sauvignon and the message, 'Thanks for the good times.' I'm reading hurt feelings here.
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Recommend that Paul sends the Norwich chairman a case of really nice cabernet sauvignon and the message, 'Thanks for the good times.' I'm reading hurt feelings here.
i am reading money.
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ok maybe that as well
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Paul Lambert has revealed his former club Norwich City are suing him because of his decision to leave Carrow Road for Aston Villa this summer.
It comes after Canaries chairman Alan Bowkett told supporters that Lambert was suing them for breach of contract.
Lambert said he was "extremely disappointed" at the comments, adding: "What Norwich haven't made public is that they are suing me.
"I'll let him (Bowkett) say what he has got to say and we'll see what happens."
Before leaving for the Midlands on 2 June, Lambert spent three years at Carrow Road, guiding the club to back-to-back promotions from League One before finishing 12th in last season's Premier League.
The Scot's exit was a messy one, with Norwich rejecting his resignation and struggling to agree a compensation package with Villa.
Speaking at a Carrow Road fans' forum, attended by approximately 130 people, Bowkett said Lambert was seeking between £1.5m and £2m.
A Premier League Managers' Arbitration Tribunal will decide on the case next spring and Lambert has said he will be represented by the League Managers' Association (LMA).
"I'm extremely disappointed that senior officials at Norwich have made comments in relation to myself," the former Celtic and Borussia Dortmund midfielder responded.
"The LMA are acting on my behalf. They supported me at the time and still are.
"It is disrespectful and wrong to that tribunal for me to comment any more.
"That's the way I'm going to leave it. My main concern is Aston Villa.
"Am I concerned Norwich fans are only hearing one side of the story? In a word, 'yes'."
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Wonder what Chris Hughton makes of all this... he is like the rebound, while Norwich go following their ex that dumped them for a more attractive partner.
p.s thats Chris Hughton that was employed when they hired him but "you can't complain"
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Interesting to see MoTD had Lambert down as Norwich's manager tonight.
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More compo money paid out. Marvellous
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/dec/23/aston-villa-norwich-city-paul-lambert