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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on September 29, 2012, 06:40:22 PM
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Available Sunday afternoon.
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Any team news guys and gals?
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Andy Townsend said in studio that WBA is probably strongest midlands team...and "Villa doesn't have much else to show than that they've been strongest team in Midlands", not a exact quote but pretty much that. Pillock.
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Albrighton & Gabby start.
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Guzan,Lowton,Vlaar,Clark,Bennet,KEA,Delph,Holman,Albrighton,Gabby,Benteke
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Guzan,Lowton,Vlaar,Clark,Bennet,KEA,Delph,Holman,Albrighton,Gabby,Benteke
Deservedly so. Interesting line up. I think as has been said each week, predicting the side is literally impossible.
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Delph and el ahmadi holding. Then it looks like albrighton, Holman, gabby behind benteke. So no bent, n'zogbia or bannan.
I guess it could be gabby up top and Holman left, or we could move to that during the game.
I'm not sure about that side in terms of the midfield. Albrighton hasn't had a good game in months.
Plus I've got bent as my fantasy football captain!
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Bloody hell. Lambert really likes to rotate his squad.
I just hope KEA,Delph,Holman and Albrighton can do enough to win the battle in midfield.
Glad to see Gabby back, he looked fearless on Tuesday night.
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Interesting team, like Albrighton so fingers crossed for a good game. Put 5op on Bannan and 2-0 for my duaghter so a 2-0 single it is. Come on you Villa boys.
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Albrighton hasn't had a good game in months.
In his defence, he hasn't actually played a competitive match in months.
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I hope Bent comes on and scores... (Fantasy Football).
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Very happy for Albrighton. I felt he lost his way a little after a great start to his career. He has the right environment and manager to get things back on track.
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I imagine we've matched up to their 4231. Hopefully we can get gabby in support of benteke. He certainly should hold the ball up better than bent
This team is similarl to the side that plate citeh. Great result, but watching the highlights, citeh really didn't seem to have much intensity to their game. Today will be different!
Nervous!
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Do we think Lambo just draws random names out of a bag?!
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I like the look of that team - should be an interesting game. Assume that he has Delph and Holman in there to try and close the space in midfield and get amongst them. Looking fwd to watching Gabby and Benteke upfront together.
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Albrighton hasn't had a good game in months.
In his defence, he hasn't actually played a competitive match in months.
Ok. A season and a half! I don't really recall one good game last season?
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Do we think Lambo just draws random names out of a bag?!
Keeps the players on their toes!
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Highlights? All I got to see were the goals. I hate the tv coverage (or rather the lack of it) for the League Cup.
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Avtv
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Subs news?
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Lamberts got BIG BALLS, I like that. Bent needed dropping and a kick up the arse no matter what his price tag was.
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Ridgewell not starting. No OG then ;(
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Dwight Yorke and Kevin Phillips in studio
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I like the look of that team. Midfield looks far more solid and better balanced than usual. I hope it is Gabby up front with Benteke. Playing in that position at Eastlands gave more than a glimpse of what he can be really good at.
I am not sure whether Lambertoni is rotating, experimenting or has refined his ideas as to what he thinks his best team is.
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so many people saying yawn tv on sky sports.
what do these people want? A league with just the top 4 that play each other 8 times. Typical armchair glory hunters .
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I guess albrighton could be on the right of a diamond? We'll find out in a bit.
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Come on you Villa boys.
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I really want to win this one today and make these uppity Baggies fans eat their words.
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Lambert is fond of the 'we'll give it a right good go' line isn't he
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Albrighton hasn't had a good game in months.
In his defence, he hasn't actually played a competitive match in months.
Ok. A season and a half! I don't really recall one good game last season?
Did anybody?
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A lot of empty seats again
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Lambert is fond of the 'we'll give it a right good go' line isn't he
It's his equivalent of Ron Saunders' "110%" line.
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so many people saying yawn tv on sky sports.
what do these people want? A league with just the top 4 that play each other 8 times. Typical armchair glory hunters .
You get the same comments on here when it is teams like Southampton v Reading.
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f*k did you see Delphs eyes then ;)
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Come on Villa.
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Come on Villa! Let's get into them from the off.
Holte in good voice.
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I have a good feeling about this.
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Neviles favourite ground. we know
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At last, attacking the North Stand first half, first time this season?
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The really important thing, does anyone know if Hilts has bought some Reggae Reggae chicken?
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Andy Townsend said in studio that WBA is probably strongest midlands team...and "Villa doesn't have much else to show than that they've been strongest team in Midlands", not a exact quote but pretty much that. Pillock.
Whats he doing in the studio? Thought he worked for ITV?
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Feeling good about this - come on lads, tear 'em a new one!
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Thickie Neville in 'the fans never took to him' McLeish stupidity.
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Andy Townsend said in studio that WBA is probably strongest midlands team...and "Villa doesn't have much else to show than that they've been strongest team in Midlands", not a exact quote but pretty much that. Pillock.
Whats he doing in the studio? Thought he worked for ITV?
No idea what channel, we get Premier HD channel from C-More (used to be Canal+) in Finland, PrermierHD is completely in english.
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Great cross Gabby
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Awesome ball from Gabs.
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We're a bit dodgy at the moment in midfield.
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We're living a little dangerously.
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chance for long. wake up villa. keep giving the ball away
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Does look like a bit of a diamond
Bloody hell that was a great chance. Lowton and delph giving it away
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Caught in possession a few times and almost punished just then.
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I think Guzan was beaten there. Good job the target was missed.
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Let 'em get two crosses in far too easily then.
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Acres of room in midfield for Albion to run at us.
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Come on Villa.
It's not the mighty Southampton we're playing.
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Afternoon chaps, a win is much needed here. Especially against these fuckers...
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Afternoon all. How have we started?
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Corner, come on Vlaar
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Corner, we score from these
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Thickie Neville in 'the fans never took to him' McLeish stupidity.
He has a point.
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Oh dear. It's the kids voice "veella" thing. Wankers.
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Penalty that.
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Oh dear. It's the kids voice "veella" thing. Wankers.
What the fuck is that about? Morons.
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Thickie Neville in 'the fans never took to him' McLeish stupidity.
He has a point.
Only because we knew how shit he was, not where he came from...
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Need to get a foothold here, Lowton not looking great so far.
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We don't seem to be winning many of the 50-50's to be honest, Albion are looking more likely to score at the moment.
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Headless chickens so far. Composure, please.
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Oh dear. It's the kids voice "veella" thing. Wankers.
What the fuck is that about? Morons.
Those knobheads have been doing it as long as I can remember. But of course we're all friends arent we!!
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Our pressing game looks a bit schoolboyish at times - everyone haring around after the ball...
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gabby looking dangerous whenever he gets on the ball.
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Gabby has started well.
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Good ball Gabby
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Gabby really looks up for it.
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Absolutely Gabulous.
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I wonder if we are going to get a bit of the old Gabby..
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Much better.
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Albrighton and Delph doing very well.
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villa back in this now
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Looking better now.
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This is better
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Pretty sure I just saw a certain former H&V poster sitting in front of Roy Hodgson there....
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Come on Villa!!!
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I like Delph, he's a tidy player..... Just hope he can score some goals for us like he did for dirty Leeds.
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Did you know that the throstle, or Song Thrush, is in the turdus genus?
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Looking really good so far.
I shouldn't be surprised but Martin Tyler repeating the media line that McLeish is a good manager but was always going to find it difficult at Villa Park because of where he arrived from. Jesus wept.
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Did you know that the throstle, or Song Thrush, is in the turdus genus?
In flight, it is known as 'the brown streak'.
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Looking really good so far.
Yes, the first 5 mins were really nervy for me though, being a glass half empty kind of chap.
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Looking really good so far.
I shouldn't be surprised but Martin Tyler repeating the media line that McLeish is a good manager but was always going to find it difficult at Villa Park because of where he arrived from. Jesus wept.
Yep, it's all our fault that last season was so utterly depressing.
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Looking really good so far.
I shouldn't be surprised but Martin Tyler repeating the media line that McLeish is a good manager but was always going to find it difficult at Villa Park because of where he arrived from. Jesus wept.
He must be right though.
I mean, he IS good. That's why after he was sacked he found employment immediately........ oh wait.
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benteke has a poor touch
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Yellow card for Delph.
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Delph still can't tackle.
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Nowt wrong with that tackle. At all.
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Nowt wrong with that tackle. At all.
Nope
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Brilliant tackle Delph.
Shit decision.
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Looking on the replays, I couldn't see why it was a foul, let alone a booking.
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Nowt wrong with that tackle. At all.
Nope
And I bet he gest sent off later in the game.
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I find it difficult to get used to this harrying, non-stop, up-and-at-em team I'm watching of late. Is it really Villa?
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Benteke hasn't really got going yet. In his third Prem game ever. Stupid comment.
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Delph still can't tackle.
Are you watching the same match I am? That was a brilliant challenge.
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Looking on the replays, I couldn't see why it was a foul, let alone a booking.
Didn't see a replay, looked late on first viewing to me.
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Shocking decision to give a yellow there, nothing wrong with the tackle at all, clearly made his decision from their player having a sulk about it.
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Good shot by Holman.
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Very good shot by Holman, want to see more of those.
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Ooooh, Holman. Nearly spectacular.
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Looking on the replays, I couldn't see why it was a foul, let alone a booking.
Didn't see a replay, looked late on first viewing to me.
I thought it was a good tackle on first viewing. Replays confirmed it.
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Looking on the replays, I couldn't see why it was a foul, let alone a booking.
Didn't see a replay, looked late on first viewing to me.
You should probably look at the replay then.
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Delph needs to get that out of his game. losing it easily
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Looking on the replays, I couldn't see why it was a foul, let alone a booking.
Didn't see a replay, looked late on first viewing to me.
I thought so too from the distance he was away fro the ball and the camera was from the players, but he clearly won the ball and had studs low when he caught the player. This was shown clearly on the same view the ref would have seen it.
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Slick move poor finish
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We look lovely when we pass it like that.
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good move. shame bout finish
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Same Benteke didn't play it into Vlaar then as that run was tremendous.
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Inexperience proving costly there.
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Much better football than you normally see in a local derby so far.
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First time I've seen us this season, really impressed with Holman in particular and it's nice seeing us keeping it on the deck for the first time since god knows when.
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Get Bent on for Benteke...
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59% possession
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KEA is looking sharper today
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'Bosko' Benteke has the touch of a baby elephant. Maybe he's trying too hard and just needs to relax.
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Benteke has ha the touch of a cart horse so far. Second touch is a tackle. Our shape is a bit tight meaning we're struggling to get much pattern
Gabby and Holman the pick from an attacking sense thus far
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Benteke has ha the touch of a cart horse so far. Second touch is a tackle. Our shape is a bit tight meaning we're struggling to get much pattern
Gabby and Holman the pick from an attacking sense thus far
Agreed, Benteke is doing a passable impression of a total donkey so far this match. Gabby has been quality though.
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just lacking penetration. great football at times. Bent for Benteke HT for me
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Albrighton looks good whenever on the ball
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We need to stop playing very short passes that leave the other player in trouble. KEA the most responsible.
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Well, that could help us.
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Brunt just gone down and looked like he asked for sub.
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just lacking penetration. great football at times. Bent for Benteke HT for me
It'd damage Benteke's confidence though, I imagine. I'd give him 15 mins after HT.
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Quality from Albrighton and Holman then.
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great effort
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Holman is having a blinder.
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Close from Holman again.
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Lovely attacking move.
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Brunt just gone down and looked like he asked for sub.
Yes. Definitely looked like he couldn't bear it.
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just lacking penetration. great football at times. Bent for Benteke HT for me
It'd damage Benteke's confidence though, I imagine. I'd give him 15 mins after HT.
hope he scores now ;)
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Best Albrighton has played in a long time, unlucky Holman.
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Gabs should have done better when he won the ball back then.
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We're well on top of this. We just need goals.
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78% possession for the last 10 mins for us.
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Some lovely 1 touch stuff then, we really do look quality at times
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I'd take Delph and Benteke off and bring on Bannan and Bent second half.
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Why isn't Foster making his usual mistakes, other games he does a good impression of Calamity
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We're well on top of this. We just need goals.
I am aiming to retire before I am 75.
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Benteke...argh, so frustrating
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Benteke did well, then wasted it.
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Useless Benteke, FFS.
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shopuld have set homan up
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Fucking greedy fucker!
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Benteke...argh, so frustrating
He looks like Carlton Palmer playing up front.
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Poor finish but excellent before then.
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Fucking hell man. We deserve to be in front now, but it's been a great first half from us in any case.
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Another forced sub for the Baggies?
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I kinda like Gary Nev
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West Brazil going down like files.
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I kinda like Gary Nev
were his fave ground you know ;)
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Another forced sub for the Baggies?
Yeps, helps us no end :)
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It's times like that Free-kick for which I'm glad Brunt has gone off.
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Looks like just inexperience from Benteke. He'll get there.
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Looks like just inexperience from Benteke. He'll get there.
Perhaps. The commentator can't wait to criticise him either. He's been off the pace in the first half, but he's new to the Prem ffs.
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HT, 0-0, some good play by us but not as much attacking play as the possession demanded. Benteke has been wasteful but so far Holman MOTM.
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I enjoyed that. Getting crosses into the box at every opportunity, running at players - great stuff. Lacked composure up front but we've always got Bent to bring on.
It's early days obviously but at the moment Benteke looks more a physical presence than he does a finisher.
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Decent first half, thought Holman was good. Think if we keep going we should grab a goal.
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Delph looks like a flight risk, get him off.
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Created some chances and decent overall. Benteke has been very uncomposed. Holman excellent and gabby started very well.
Kea has Ben playing well too. I think the stage might be set for bent to get the winner. I wonder how long before he comes on?
Think Clark and vlaar have looked compose. delph decent, but why does he dawdle on the ball and go on recklessly at least once every game?
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With Benteke I don't see much point in playing a striker who doesn't back himself with half a goal to aim at, 15 yards out and on his stronger foot.
Yeah he missed but I've got no issue with him taking the shot on, it's exactly what you want a striker to do.
Having seen most of the first half we should be ahead, need a goal early 2nd half or they'll start to think they can nick it.
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Best Albrighton has been in ages. Looks good in that slightly more central role.
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Good first half after the first 5 or 10 mins when we looked ragged. We are playing some nice football and getting stuck in. Benteke needs to be given a chance before being made a figure of ridicule. He has been mixed, but he;s 21 and looks far more effective than, say, the Fonz who is the same age.
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Benteke...argh, so frustrating
He looks like Carlton Palmer playing up front.
Ade Akinbiyi springs to mind or Patrick Ageymang. He can trap it further than I can kick it.
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West Brom the first 10, Villa that last 35. Holman is my hero, Gabby looks hungry, Delph better than I thought, Benteke needs time, full backs need to get forward a touch more. All in all a millions times more pleasing on the eye and a team in the making...Reasonably happy lets just get a goal or 2 lads :D
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Created some chances and decent overall. Benteke has been very uncomposed. Holman excellent and gabby started very well.
Kea has Ben playing well too. I think the stage might be set for bent to get the winner. I wonder how long before he comes on?
Think Clark and vlaar have looked compose. delph decent, but why does he dawdle on the ball and go on recklessly at least once every game?
I don't think he does but I think refs are of the same opinion. Not many players would've got a yellow for the tackle he was booked for, was very harsh.
As for dawdling, I only saw that once (I'm cooking as well so missed bits of the half) and I thought he was clearly fouled that time but the ref waved it on.
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hahaha Chris!!
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Thickie Neville in 'the fans never took to him' McLeish stupidity.
He has a point.
Only because we knew how shit he was, not where he came from...
Neville didn't make any mention of where he came from though.
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I'm not sure anyone's ridiculing benteke are they?
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I'm not sure anyone's ridiculing benteke are they?
Cart horse etc.
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We're playing pretty well, it has to be said.
You can tell, though, that these are still early days for us with this style of play - there are frequent reminders of that in terms of misplaced passes, and you can see Albion feel more comfortable playing that way, as they've been doing it for a while now.
Benteke is making a nuisance of himself, and perhaps needs to learn when to shoot and when to give the ball to someone else, but that's largely youthful exuberance, I think.
Holman just never stops running, and that was a quality shot that Foster tipped over from him.
All in all, good stuff, but we could do with three points here.
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A very enjoyable half of football. Benteke is very eager to please, and I think that's affecting his instincts. He should have gone straight for goal with his last effort. We're causing them problems, but we'll need to make our chances count.
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It may be 0-0 but there's plenty to be pleased about.
I like the look at KEA and Delph in tandem. Albrighton is showing that he isn't just a right winger. Good contribution.
Carry on like this and it's our game.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. Unlucky
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Shit, that was close.
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Shit.
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Undeserved and against the run of play. Marvellous.
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Fuck, although that tackle on Kea was two footed earlier.
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Sloppy Villa. Very sloppy.
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Jacksie wanker.
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Jammy fuckers. We shot ourselves in the foot a bit there. Get Bent on.
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poor by Vlaar, should have out it out for a corner.
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How did that not go in?
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I'm now officially changing Vlaar's nickname from 'Concrete' to 'Shit'.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK OFF TAMAS!!!!
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Bollocks. Offside trap fell to pieces twice in a couple of minutes there. Morrison is a very good player though
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so fucking typical of our luck.
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Bollocks. Offside trap fell to pieces twice in a couple of minutes there. Morrison is a very good player though
Surely the fact the first one was off side meant it only fell apart the once?
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They've let Long have several chances to day, just not marking tight enough.
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Lowton isn't very good is he. Hopefully he will improve with age.
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Defence is a major worry still.
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WE can still win this.
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When did we last score from a free kick like this, I wonder?
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Need to make these count
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So close from Bennet.
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Not a bad effort from Bennett. Never thought we were going to score.
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Don't let the heads drop villa
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Lowton isn't very good is he. Hopefully he will improve with age.
He's better than Vlaar. Vlaar switched off twice against Southampton, and did the same this half twice, leading to a goal. We can't afford the Titus Bramble approach to defending.
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We need a Foster cock up like he normally manages
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VP turning into a bloody lucky ground for the tesco bags. Jammy bastards.
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El Ahmadi looks class but he gives away far too many stupid free kicks. We look ok going forward but the defence looks shit. Clarke goes missing far too often.
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When did we last score from a free kick like this, I wonder?
Stuart Gray v Port Vale
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Fuck me Lowton and Vlaar need to start communicating....massive gaps
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Gabby is the only one who started this match who started last seasons loss. Shows how much has changed in the space of 10 months.
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Time for Bent, perhaps?
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Lets have Bent on
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Long unmarked again
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Hmm, some poor defending going on right now. We could do with not losing too many more in the league too. C'mon Villa!
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We look really ropey at the back don't we. Time for bent I think
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Gabby is the only one who started this match who started last seasons loss. Shows how much has changed in the space of 10 months.
Lambert and his players have been theere 5 minutes! Chin up
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shocking FK
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Need to score and quickly.
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We look really ropey at the back don't we. Time for bent I think
Can he cover at centre half?
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We get a goal and villa park wil erupt
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Wasted freekick, got to make them count. Time for a change up front I think
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need a change
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This is depressing, what a cruel mistress Aston Villa is
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I think we're just going to have to accept that this season is all about molding the team. We need to shore up the defence before we're involved in a relegation fight.
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I have that nasty we're-never-going-to-score-today feeling.
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We are going to need to score a lot of goals this season due to flakey defending and we lack creators and scorers in form.
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What are the defenders doing.....????? Dare I say it but we need Dunne and.........Hutton back :o
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Gabby is the only one who started this match who started last seasons loss. Shows how much has changed in the space of 10 months.
Lambert and his players have been there 5 minutes! Chin up
Sorry, that was what I was getting at. On comparison Baggies have seven starters from last seasons match.
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In fact get Bent and Weimann on
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good move.
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Guzan keeping us in this... their tails are up and we are struggling. We will come again... just need to hang in there and not concede a second..
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Speaking of which here is Charlie.
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Still the same problem, no goal scorers on form
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Why we do look so leggy? For years now, we've always looked knackered in the second half of games.
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Corner. Come on ta fuck villa and score.
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Benteke all at sea.
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shit corner
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Gabby is the only one who started this match who started last seasons loss. Shows how much has changed in the space of 10 months.
Lambert and his players have been there 5 minutes! Chin up
Sorry, that was what I was getting at. On comparison Baggies have seven starters from last seasons match.
True...but we did have the big "R" written all over us last season, the Baggies were safe all day.
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Utterly shit corner.
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Fucking hell. Is Benteke George Weah's cousin?
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another good sub
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Fucking hell. Is Benteke George Weah's cousin?
Shot was blocked = corner
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We're looking poor now, Clarke's got his side up for this half and we've gone backwards
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We go so impotent when behind. Show some fight villa
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It ain't gonna happen today.
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BB on for Delph
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One pretty flat hasn't it? The crowd need to eg us on here
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For me we look a bit short of ideas since Ireland went off against the Saints.
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We're looking poor now, Clarke's got his side up for this half and we've gone backwards
So far this season, Baggies have scored only one first half goal so they do lift themselves for the second half. But the second league match on the trot for us to have a bad second half.
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Bent needs some service if he's going to save us
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Albion have looked composed since taking the lead. We've looked ragged.
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One pretty flat hasn't it? The crowd need to eg us on here
Need a new "G" button mate. :o)
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We need some luck now
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come on Villa
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N'Zogbia is this decades Nigel Callaghan, except even shitter. Which is some achievement.
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Can't see us getting anything out of this. Awful for the last 10 minutes.
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Come on Villa. The thought of Lily Savage and the Albion fans gloating is too much to take.
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Turned off at 0-1, unfortunately.
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No goal threat from us since they scored.
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Apart from free kicks we've created nothing, just don't look like scoring
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I am getting so angry watching this
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Another week, another steaming pile of shite.
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I think Spurs will tear us apart
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FFS - Just throw the kitchen sink at them
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I think we will be deep in the shit come January
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My wife has just said "Tsk! Are they going to lose again?"
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West brom in charge now. They've got a pretty settled side and style. We've looked to have little game plan since the subs.
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I hate to say it but Neville's right: it's up to Gabby, Bent and Zog to get us something from this game. The experienced players have really got to step up.
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not gonna be our day is it
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Well we managed to work something out of that mess. shame it fell to Charles.
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COMPOSUUUUUUURE!!
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Another week, another steaming pile of shite.
Very harsh. We were good for 60 minutes. Crap finishing and lack of composure
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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well done Bent.
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bbbeennntttyyyyyy
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Yesssss!
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YEEEESSSS GET FUCKING IN
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Back in it - now win it!
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FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKIIIUIIINNNNGGG GGGGEEEETTTTT IIINNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
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Come on get in!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did we score? Oh goody.
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Prove your point Bent, grab the winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Get the fuck in. I think we deserve that
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Lovely finish.
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Bent you beauty!
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ffs at last
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if he started we would have won this. lets hope we still do
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Almost Broke for the Baggies to score again. Guzan out well.
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150
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Oh good, hadn't updated on here for a few minutes I was getting so depressed. MOTD may be back on the agenda in the Moore household yet!!!
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Keep your heads, Villa, don't concede again! COME THE FUCK ON.
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Well, I was just going to mention that Bent hasn't been up to much. Beautiful strike.
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That striker nobody rates scored again.
Get in.
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Now get the fuck into them, Villa!
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My wife says "about time too".
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throw everything at them now and they will shit themselves and Foster will let one in !
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end to end stuff
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ffs thought that was in
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Gab & Bent all day for me the next few games
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Almost another lucky goal for the bitter birds.
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Fucking hell, we almost score but Gabby tries to do to much, they go straight up and loops off Clark to go inches wide.
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Looks like they're time wasting now.
Brilliant.
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lets get on and win this now
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Baggies could be down to 10 men through injury.
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Villa Park rocking
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Benteke needs some time learning his trade with Bent
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We do misplace so many passes
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Good pressure villa
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Come on Villa!
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I guarantee we'll win.
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COME ON VILLA!
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Two good crosses then. Gabby looks like he has tired alot. Two long matches in a week after his injury will do that.
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I guarantee we'll win.
Hope you are right
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Bent does a Benteke.
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W can do this boys....WE CAN DO IT
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Good save Guzan. Offside on replay but not given.
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bennett has been poor
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Does Clark know what offside is???
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I really hate it when we draw. It feels worse than losing.
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bennett has been poor
See now, I think he's been really good today. Opinions, eh?
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We deserve a winner, go get it.
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Shame ref called that then as Bannan ran onto the lose ball.
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bennett has been poor
See now, I think he's been really good today. Opinions, eh?
Crucial interception there
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Brilliant stop from Bennett there
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bennett has been poor
See now, I think he's been really good today. Opinions, eh?
Crucial interception there
earned his wage there
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It'd be a killer to concede now.
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One last go Villa
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Ball spending alot of time in the air.
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come on now
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Should have been a red, looked like he straight armed him in the face.
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thats more of a red . sinicle bastard
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Dirty ringpiece.
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Full time.
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bennett has been poor
See now, I think he's been really good today. Opinions, eh?
Same here, thought he had a good game.
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I'm ok with a point, but three would have been better. We finished the stronger team, and dominated the first half. Albion looked the better side for half an hour after they scored.