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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Somniloquism on September 17, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
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Tonight, according to the BBC text, Newcastle scored their 1000th PL goal to join Man Utd (1551), Arsenal (1353), Chelsea (1290), Liverpool (1239) & Spurs (1078) over this threshold.
It got me checking and I think there is a remote possibility we could join them this season if we have a good one. I have worked out we are on approx 937 by counting up all our prem scorers but this does not include OG totals. Does anyone know the full total? Anyone want to predict when we will do it?
BTW, the official premier league site is useless as they don't have all the correct stats prior to 2000 and all of the above mentioned teams are about 150-200 down on the totals listed by Opta.
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977 according to this: http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/all-time-table/pl-years
Which is indicative of where we have struggled down the years considering we have had two full seasons more in the PL than Newcastle!!
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I make 973 before the season started. Shows how few we've scored over the years if Newcastle got there before us despite 2 seasons less in the PL.
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Even TSM's team could get 27 goals, so hopefully we will get it before christmas.
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I make 973 before the season started. Shows how few we've scored over the years if Newcastle got there before us despite 2 seasons less in the PL.
I did think about that and we do seem to have more of a recent tradition of being low goal scorers anyway. But mainly they had one person get 148 goals for them, our highest was 60.
But that other link by Irish shows how scary Manures stats have been over the last 20 odd years compared to everyone else.
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977 according to this: http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/all-time-table/pl-years
Which is indicative of where we have struggled down the years considering we have had two full seasons more in the PL than Newcastle!!
Weren't Newcastle only down for one season?
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Were in Division One in 92/93.
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Keegan years were full of goals at both ends
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I make 973 before the season started. Shows how few we've scored over the years if Newcastle got there before us despite 2 seasons less in the PL.
At least Everton too have not hit the 1,000 mark.
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Who is ahead between us and Everton? Proof that Spurs and Newcastle have been sexier than us for 20 years (at least) unfortunately.
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Newcastle were lucky enough to have Alan Shearer, and keep hold of him as long as they did. I'd hazard a guess that our top Premier League scorer is Dwight Yorke, with probably a 100 fewer goals than Shearer.
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Even TSM's team could get 27 goals, so hopefully we will get it before christmas.
It's 37, I was thinking 27 was woefully low even by last year's standards so I checked. Still crap of course.
Even during the Little era we didn't exactly bang them in, a lot of our success was built on solid defence. The only times I can really recall us being free scoring in the PL era is 92/93 and 07/08.
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How many goals have Spurs and Newcastle conceded though?
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Actually checked 92/93 & only 57 goals in 42 matches which is hardly prolific.
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We are still 1 pt ahead of Spurs after this weekend. Wonder how long that will last.
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Keep creating chances like we did the weekend and someone is going to get a real hammering
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Even TSM's team could get 27 goals, so hopefully we will get it before christmas.
It's 37, I was thinking 27 was woefully low even by last year's standards so I checked. Still crap of course.
Even during the Little era we didn't exactly bang them in, a lot of our success was built on solid defence. The only times I can really recall us being free scoring in the PL era is 92/93 and 07/08.
O'Neill's second season we scored over 70. 73? I think. 6-0 at Derby 5-1 v Blues etc and that was rewarded with 6th spot which you'd expect better really.
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Newcastle were lucky enough to have Alan Shearer, and keep hold of him as long as they did. I'd hazard a guess that our top Premier League scorer is Dwight Yorke, with probably a 100 fewer goals than Shearer.
I had posted earlier, Shearer and Yorke were the respective players.
I make 973 before the season started. Shows how few we've scored over the years if Newcastle got there before us despite 2 seasons less in the PL.
I did think about that and we do seem to have more of a recent tradition of being low goal scorers anyway. But mainly they had one person get 148 goals for them, our highest was 60.
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Newcastle were lucky enough to have Alan Shearer, and keep hold of him as long as they did. I'd hazard a guess that our top Premier League scorer is Dwight Yorke, with probably a 100 fewer goals than Shearer.
I had posted earlier, Shearer and Yorke were the respective players.
I make 973 before the season started. Shows how few we've scored over the years if Newcastle got there before us despite 2 seasons less in the PL.
I did think about that and we do seem to have more of a recent tradition of being low goal scorers anyway. But mainly they had one person get 148 goals for them, our highest was 60.
I'd guess Cole got more than 60 for them as well.
Strikers isn't our problem though as through the years our strikers are probably fairly close to those of most of the other sides outside Man U and Arsenal. I'd suggest we've scored more than average from defense as well over the years. Where we've struggled is with goals from midfield. I can only think of Taylor and Hitz who've contributed a lot from the middle Barry got a few from penalties but we've never had loads from free play.
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I'd guess Cole got more than 60 for them as well.
Strikers isn't our problem though as through the years our strikers are probably fairly close to those of most of the other sides outside Man U and Arsenal. I'd suggest we've scored more than average from defense as well over the years. Where we've struggled is with goals from midfield. I can only think of Taylor and Hitz who've contributed a lot from the middle Barry got a few from penalties but we've never had loads from free play.
Mid 40's for them in the league. Beardsley was next highest after Shearer on 48.
All our PL Goal scorers I believe are here (http://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/stats/option/scorers) but although they have acknowledged Clark's goal against Newcastle they have not listed KEA's against Everton. Also no Lowton or Benteke at the moment.
Hendrie was also one of our top midfield scorers as well. Ridgwell must have been our most prolific defender scoring 6 in under a year but he probably caused 10 against at the other end.
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Newcastle were lucky enough to have Alan Shearer, and keep hold of him as long as they did. I'd hazard a guess that our top Premier League scorer is Dwight Yorke, with probably a 100 fewer goals than Shearer.
I had posted earlier, Shearer and Yorke were the respective players.
I make 973 before the season started. Shows how few we've scored over the years if Newcastle got there before us despite 2 seasons less in the PL.
I did think about that and we do seem to have more of a recent tradition of being low goal scorers anyway. But mainly they had one person get 148 goals for them, our highest was 60.
I'd guess Cole got more than 60 for them as well.
Strikers isn't our problem though as through the years our strikers are probably fairly close to those of most of the other sides outside Man U and Arsenal. I'd suggest we've scored more than average from defense as well over the years. Where we've struggled is with goals from midfield. I can only think of Taylor and Hitz who've contributed a lot from the middle Barry got a few from penalties but we've never had loads from free play.
Hitzlsperger didn't score many. I'd be surprised if he scored ten league goals in all his time at the club. However, he only seemed to score absolute pearlers.
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Hitzlsperger didn't score many. I'd be surprised if he scored ten league goals in all his time at the club. However, he only seemed to score absolute pearlers.
8 goals in 99 appearances
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Nice to see Wigan Athletic 3 points from overtaking Small Heath...
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Statto central here....scroll down to the 'all time' league table (since 92)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_FA_Premier_League_table#All-Time_FA_Premier_League_Table
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Hitzlsperger didn't score many. I'd be surprised if he scored ten league goals in all his time at the club. However, he only seemed to score absolute pearlers.
8 goals in 99 appearances
I seemed to remember him getting a fair few in 03-04 but checking it he only got 5, was our top scorer from midfield though, which kinda backs up my point.
Forgot about Hendrie and purposely left Ashley Young out as he often played further forward anyway. Still think there's a lot of midfielders on that list who have a really poor goals-to-games return for us.
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Even TSM's team could get 27 goals, so hopefully we will get it before christmas.
It's 37, I was thinking 27 was woefully low even by last year's standards so I checked. Still crap of course.
Even during the Little era we didn't exactly bang them in, a lot of our success was built on solid defence. The only times I can really recall us being free scoring in the PL era is 92/93 and 07/08.
O'Neill's second season we scored over 70. 73? I think. 6-0 at Derby 5-1 v Blues etc and that was rewarded with 6th spot which you'd expect better really.
It may have been better but we had our run of no wins in March. But in the Goals for column it was a bit scewed by April when as you say 6-0 at Derby 5-1 v Blues as well as 4-0 against Bolton and a 2-2 against Everton
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Even TSM's team could get 27 goals, so hopefully we will get it before christmas.
It's 37, I was thinking 27 was woefully low even by last year's standards so I checked. Still crap of course.
Even during the Little era we didn't exactly bang them in, a lot of our success was built on solid defence. The only times I can really recall us being free scoring in the PL era is 92/93 and 07/08.
O'Neill's second season we scored over 70. 73? I think. 6-0 at Derby 5-1 v Blues etc and that was rewarded with 6th spot which you'd expect better really.
It may have been better but we had our run of no wins in March. But in the Goals for column it was a bit scewed by April when as you say 6-0 at Derby 5-1 v Blues as well as 4-0 against Bolton and a 2-2 against Everton
Even so, for me personally that season I enjoyed going to Villa Park the most since 92-93, even more than 95-96 when we had a better season. I thought that we were actually going to challenge for silverware. Oh well, never mind!
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Even TSM's team could get 27 goals, so hopefully we will get it before christmas.
It's 37, I was thinking 27 was woefully low even by last year's standards so I checked. Still crap of course.
Even during the Little era we didn't exactly bang them in, a lot of our success was built on solid defence. The only times I can really recall us being free scoring in the PL era is 92/93 and 07/08.
O'Neill's second season we scored over 70. 73? I think. 6-0 at Derby 5-1 v Blues etc and that was rewarded with 6th spot which you'd expect better really.
It may have been better but we had our run of no wins in March. But in the Goals for column it was a bit scewed by April when as you say 6-0 at Derby 5-1 v Blues as well as 4-0 against Bolton and a 2-2 against Everton
Even so, for me personally that season I enjoyed going to Villa Park the most since 92-93, even more than 95-96 when we had a better season. I thought that we were actually going to challenge for silverware. Oh well, never mind!
it was the following season for me. 08-09 we looked like we were comfortably going to make the top4 but losing Laursen and the effect of Moscow on the fans killed the season, 1 bad luck, 1 poor judgement from the manager, but how different might things have been for the last few years without those 2 incidents, and how different would our opinion of MoN be...