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Title: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: villajk on September 04, 2012, 10:28:54 PM
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/FirstTeam
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 04, 2012, 10:29:56 PM
Quite apt that Hutton is number 2.
Title: Aston Villa 25 man squad
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on September 04, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Stan, Warnock and Hutton all named in the 25 man squad.

Villa - 25 squad players
Player Home Grown
1 Agbonlahor, Gabriel Yes
2 Albrighton, Marc Kevin Yes
3 Bannan, Barry Yes
4 Bent, Darren Ashley Yes
5 Clark, Ciaran Yes
6 Delph, Fabian Yes
7 Dunne, Richard Patrick Yes
8 El Ahmadi Aroussi, Karim No
9 Given, Shay John James Yes
10 Guzan, Bradley Edwin No
11 Herd, Christopher Yes
12 Holman, Brett No
13 Hutton, Alan No
14 Ireland, Stephen James Yes
15 Lichaj, Eric Joseph Yes
16 Lowton, Matthew John Yes
17 Westwood, Ashley Roy Yes
18 Marshall, Andrew John Yes
19 N'Zogbia, Charles Yes
20 Petrov, Stiliyian Alyoshev No
21 Stevens, Enda No
22 Vlaar, Ron Peter No
23 Warnock, Stephen Yes
24 Bennett, Joseph Yes
25 Benteke, Christian No

http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/squad-lists/Squad-Lists-September-2012.pdf
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 04, 2012, 10:31:31 PM
That can't be it as it has none of the new signings after Ron Vlaar
Title: Re: Aston Villa 25 man squad
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on September 04, 2012, 10:31:35 PM
And our under 21s and scholars:

Henry Cowans?  Is he related to Sid?

Aston Villa - Under 21 players (Contract and Scholars)
Baker, Nathan Luke
Barrett, Calum Alastair
Barton, Joshua
Bateman, Liam Vere
Bowery, Jordan
Burke, Graham Dylan
Calder, Riccardo
Cameron, Courtney Lee
Carruthers, Samir Badre
Cowans, Henry Gordon Mander
Delfouneso, Nathan
Dempsey, Robin
Devine, Daniel Patrick
Donacien, Janoi
Drennan, Michael Joseph
Eminoglu, Umit
Gardner, Gary
Graham, Jordan
Grealish, Jack
Hill, Craig Dennis
Johnson, Daniel Anthony
Kinsella, Lewis
Lewis, Bradley
Melvin, Malcolm Graham
Nelson, Michael
O'Brien, Daniel William
Robinson, Callum Jack
Sellars, Jerell
Siegrist, Benjamin Kevin
Steiber, Andras
Stevenson, Oliver
Strain, Thomas James
Toner, Kevin Stephen
Ward, Charlie
Watkins, Mason Bradley
Watkins, Bradley
Webb, Joshua John
Weimann, Andreas
Wildin, Courtney James
Williams, Daniel Ashley
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on September 04, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
I just posted a list of the 25 man squad here:

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=47758.0

Can someone merge the two threads?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 04, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
I just posted a list of the 25 man squad here:

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=47758.0

Can someone merge the two threads?

Yep that's better
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Ad@m on September 04, 2012, 10:37:39 PM
That can't be it as it has none of the new signings after Ron Vlaar

Absolutely - I can't imagine we'd have rushed to sign Benteke and then left him out of our 25-man squad!
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: villajk on September 04, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
Benteke is definitely I the squad as tweeted by Mat Kendrick.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 04, 2012, 10:47:39 PM
The OS should be updated by mid December I imagine with the right pictures and numbers. I'm sure we will see all of the new lads in first team action before then.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: villajk on September 04, 2012, 10:52:57 PM
The OS should be updated by mid December

That's being optimistic -;)
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 04, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
The OS should be updated by mid December

That's being optimistic -;)

Bright future and all that Pauline
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: OCD on September 04, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Henry Cowans?  Is he related to Sid?

Its his son isn't it? The middle and last names are a bit of a clue.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 04, 2012, 11:15:51 PM
And our under 21s and scholars:

Henry Cowans?  Is he related to Sid?


His son, I believe.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: peter w on September 04, 2012, 11:42:56 PM
He's now my favourite player.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on September 04, 2012, 11:43:50 PM
He must be this years intake  - it would be great if he made it to the first team. 
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: ozzjim on September 05, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
I want Umit Eminoglu to make it from the kids. Proper exotic footballers name.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Vancouver on September 05, 2012, 03:08:38 AM
I want Umit Eminoglu to make it from the kids. Proper exotic footballers name.

Since Ugo
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Nev on September 05, 2012, 07:32:17 AM
I want Umit Eminoglu to make it from the kids. Proper exotic footballers name.

Didn't he used to play Sophie off of Home and Away?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Risso on September 05, 2012, 07:46:27 AM
I want Umit Eminoglu to make it from the kids. Proper exotic footballers name.

Didn't he used to play Sophie off of Home and Away?

Like
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Villan For Life on September 05, 2012, 07:53:05 AM
And our under 21s and scholars:

Henry Cowans?  Is he related to Sid?


His son, I believe.

No fan pressure of expectation on him then!
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 05, 2012, 08:00:28 AM
Never knew Mark Delaney was working for the club on the acadamy coaching side - fair play to him

And the squad cannot be right - stated on radio today that Stan has been given the 20 shirt - that cannot be right either or we have been applauding a minute to early :)
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 05, 2012, 08:52:27 AM
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/squad-lists/Squad-Lists-September-2012.pdf
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Top Cat on September 05, 2012, 09:48:52 AM
Why has Stan  got no 20? I thought 19 was a special number to him.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Duncan Shaw on September 05, 2012, 09:54:55 AM
Why has Stan  got no 20? I thought 19 was a special number to him.
He hasn't, he's just the 20th name on the list, alphabetically.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: johncvilla88 on September 05, 2012, 10:15:11 AM
Everyone always goes on about how good Arsenal's academy but you look at the existing squad only 7 home grown players!
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: johncvilla88 on September 05, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
Home grown player total included in 25 man squad ARS 7; AST 17; CHE 8; EVE 7; FUL 10; LIV 10; MANC 7; MANU 12; NEW 10; NOR 18; QPR 15; REA 17; SOU 15; SUN 14; SWA 10; SPURS 12; WBA 11; WH 14; WIG 6
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 05, 2012, 10:34:15 AM
Where is Cowans? Can't see him on the squads?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: johncvilla88 on September 05, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
he's in the under 21s and Scholars
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: supertom on September 05, 2012, 10:37:20 AM
Love that. It's something that needs to happen more. Arsenal only have 7. Though in the FA's rules, the definition of home grown isn't restricted to brit born of course. I do like that we've got a good core of British players, alongside promising foreign players.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: supertom on September 05, 2012, 10:38:37 AM
Incidentally, what's the minimum home grown players that must be included in a Prem squad? Surely more than 7.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: johncvilla88 on September 05, 2012, 10:45:05 AM
Incidentally, what's the minimum home grown players that must be included in a Prem squad? Surely more than 7.

Each club has to submit a squad containing no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "Home Grown Player" (HGP) criteria.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: supertommykN'iba on September 05, 2012, 01:55:25 PM
Incidentally, what's the minimum home grown players that must be included in a Prem squad? Surely more than 7.

Each club has to submit a squad containing no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "Home Grown Player" (HGP) criteria.

So in effect, it's there so at least one 'Home Grown Player' will be in the squad. What a bizarre rule.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: villasjf on September 05, 2012, 02:02:08 PM
Why has Stan  got no 20? I thought 19 was a special number to him.
He hasn't, he's just the 20th name on the list, alphabetically.
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/09/05/aston-villa-hold-place-for-stiliyan-petrov-in-squad-list/
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: DeeBoy1 on September 05, 2012, 02:28:06 PM
No Carruthers... :( Please don't shoot me down for being insensitive, I'm not and I love Stan as much as the next man, but if there's absolutely no chance of him playing this year (which seems to be the case) then shouldn't we have retired the 19 shirt for this season and included someone like Carruthers or Johnson?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: johncvilla88 on September 05, 2012, 02:29:29 PM
No Carruthers... :( Please don't shoot me down for being insensitive, I'm not and I love Stan as much as the next man, but if there's absolutely no chance of him playing this year (which seems to be the case) then shouldn't we have retired the 19 shirt for this season and included someone like Carruthers or Johnson?

Carruthers and Johnson are under 21 (as of Jan 2012) therefore it doesn't matter he can still play!
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: DeeBoy1 on September 05, 2012, 02:34:19 PM
No Carruthers... :( Please don't shoot me down for being insensitive, I'm not and I love Stan as much as the next man, but if there's absolutely no chance of him playing this year (which seems to be the case) then shouldn't we have retired the 19 shirt for this season and included someone like Carruthers or Johnson?

Carruthers and Johnson are under 21 (as of Jan 2012) therefore it doesn't matter he can still play!

Thanks jcv...I'll get me coat!! Same goes for Weimann, Bowery and Baker I guess DOH!!!
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Duncan Shaw on September 05, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
Why has Stan  got no 20? I thought 19 was a special number to him.
He hasn't, he's just the 20th name on the list, alphabetically.
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/09/05/aston-villa-hold-place-for-stiliyan-petrov-in-squad-list/

So they've got it wrong too!  Unless it's me and Gabby will be wearing number 1!!
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: johncvilla88 on September 05, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
Incidentally, what's the minimum home grown players that must be included in a Prem squad? Surely more than 7.

Each club has to submit a squad containing no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "Home Grown Player" (HGP) criteria.

So in effect, it's there so at least one 'Home Grown Player' will be in the squad. What a bizarre rule.

No not entirely true. It basically means if you want a squad filled with none home grown players your maximum squad size (of over 21 year old players) is 17 for every player you included in your 25 man squad who is a HGP is a bonus player up to 25 players maximum.

In theory however you could have a full match day squad of NONE HGP's because the first 17 players would be your squad players and the 18th player would just have to be under 21 (not necessarily home grown).
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Ad@m on September 05, 2012, 05:55:47 PM
I'm not entirely sure what the home grown player rule is meant to achieve.  It's so unbelievably weak as a rule I can't see how it changes the behaviour of any team and as has been pointed out it doesn't stop a club from selecting a matchday squad made up entirely of non-home grown players.

Does anyone remember why it came about?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 05, 2012, 08:57:15 PM
Have any “name” players been left out at any of the other clubs, Man City for example?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: pedro25 on September 06, 2012, 08:55:59 AM
Malouda at Chelsea I believe for one.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Dave Cooper please on September 06, 2012, 09:38:56 AM
Malouda at Chelsea I believe for one.

No, Malouda is out of their Champions League squad and training with the reserves but is named in theor Premier League 25.
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Boz on September 06, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Why isn't Sid on the coaching staff official list of http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/FirstTeam ?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 06, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
Doesn't he manage the U21's?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: Boz on September 06, 2012, 10:58:07 AM
Doesn't he manage the U21's?

They aren't inlcuded on the site so that may be why he's not there. Don't the U21s merit a squad listing?
Title: Re: Squad for 2012/13 announced
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 06, 2012, 11:11:52 AM
They are listed on the Premier League site. There's a link to it on this thread somewhere.
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