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Title: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Legion on August 27, 2012, 11:45:58 AM
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Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 27, 2012, 11:50:37 AM
If he could graduate to adequate that'd be a start.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Redsamurai on August 27, 2012, 12:03:45 PM
the article shows whats wrong - it claims hes a defender - maybe we should play him at lb   :o
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Risso on August 27, 2012, 12:12:35 PM
Oh do shut up Charles, we've heard it all before.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: supertom on August 27, 2012, 12:35:37 PM
He was spouting similar only last week. How about doing something on the fakkin pitch Charles! Bloody useless. Watching him trip over the ball or run it out of play almost everytime he gets it just makes me think of Ulises De La Cruz. Even useless had a handful of decent games for us though.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Dave Clark Five on August 27, 2012, 12:39:58 PM
Absolutely shite player. As I walked past the players car park on Saturday and saw all the flash cars, I thought of CNZ. What the hell has he done for the money we paid to buy him, or his wages. He may score the odd goal in the future but it doesn't change the fact that he has been rubbish. I want him out of the club as soon as possible.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: SashasGrandad on August 27, 2012, 12:47:22 PM
I'd be happy if his performances were 6/10 - it would be double what he normally produces.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Dave Clark Five on August 27, 2012, 12:58:23 PM
Just hope he doesn't get injured. We need him fit so that we can sell him. Problem is that nobody would want him. Forget getting £9.5m or anything near it.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 27, 2012, 01:01:23 PM
Oh do shut up Charles, we've heard it all before.

just what I was thinking. I cannot think of a bigger transfer disappointment than him relative to the hype when he arrived.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Dave Clark Five on August 27, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
What annoys me is the players who do these articles on the club site or in the Mail are usually the ones whose place should be in jeopardy. For example, we sign a new player and players in the same position always pop up to say how great it is, knowing that they are going to be replaced by the new man. Given will be next.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Malandro on August 27, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
worst signing since Randy arrived. I'd rather have Beye on the wing
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Flamingo Lane on August 27, 2012, 01:37:58 PM
"Rather than striving to impress, he will simply do his own thing."

I kid you not.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 27, 2012, 01:43:18 PM
Just hope he doesn't get injured. We need him fit so that we can sell him. Problem is that nobody would want him. Forget getting £9.5m or anything near it.

£3m is about as much as I could see anybody paying for him and even then they'd be taking a risk.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: KevinGage on August 27, 2012, 02:01:35 PM
"Rather than striving to impress, he will simply do his own thing."

I kid you not.

Continue to post his bar and restaurant tabs on social media sites, displaying how minted he is? 

Unconventional.

Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 27, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
I hate the spin on the OS It's always same old drivel
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 27, 2012, 02:11:37 PM
I hate the spin on the OS It's always same old drivel

The word 'official' tends to be the reason.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 27, 2012, 02:12:24 PM
He was summed up in that run in the first half on Saturday. Skinned 2 defenders with some great skill, then got to the byline and promptly gave away a goal kick. The talent is there but will we ever see it in full?
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Dave Clark Five on August 27, 2012, 02:16:33 PM
I hate the spin on the OS It's always same old drivel
They should hold a sports forum at half time and full time. We could tell them what bollocks they talk. Attitude problems need sorting. I hope PL can do it as some of our squad sicken me.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: hawkeye on August 27, 2012, 02:45:14 PM
Wanker
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Nastylee on August 27, 2012, 02:50:07 PM
He was summed up in that run in the first half on Saturday. Skinned 2 defenders with some great skill, then got to the byline and promptly gave away a goal kick. The talent is there but will we ever see it in full?

Probably because when he looked up to see who was in the box he could only see Everton players therefore he delayed and was crowded out. No attacking players are going to look good in a team that can not get a grip in midfield and dominate some posession and that will include Charles, Bent, Albrighton and anyone else we choose to sign. Everytime we give one of these players the ball it's always a very long way from the opposition's goal and we're execting them to pul up trees. The central midfield has been piss poor since we sold Barry and Milner and I can't remember the last game we bossed. Sort that and perhaps some of our attacking players might get the ball in attacking areas then we can judge their ability. 
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 27, 2012, 03:20:09 PM
Good point Nastylee. A good or bad midfield can make your forwards and defence look better or worse than they really are.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on August 27, 2012, 03:24:14 PM
He thinks he's a perfect 10, but normally 3
And more like 2 for me
He could make a sweet cross, burstin' up the wing
But the c*** will end up on a free

When his tackles are late, On their number 8
You wanna see the frown on my face
And in the Mail's sport, he's scored a piss poor 4
what the fuck's happened to his pace?

'Cause we like our wingers,
in different guises
We love their runs, onto the bylines
Charles seemed quite good, but not on the eyes
I'm telling you this, he's really quite shite

He's in the side again, who the fuck's in charge?
Can't we tell him to stop
If he's 10 million, well what the hell
McLeish should be fucking shot

A delicate chip, to Clark at number 6
I guess it's just a fantasy
Well 8 or 9, shit crosses all the time
Surely Lambert and Lerner can see

'Cause we like our wingers,
in different guises
We love their runs, onto the bylines
Charles seemed quite good, but not on the eyes
I'm telling you this, he's really quite shite

He scored against QPR, It was such a beauty
Anything Ashley does he can
But since then, and every month
He's like skidmarks in the pan

'Cause we like our wingers,
in different guises
We love their runs, onto the bylines
Charles seemed quite good, but not on the eyes
I'm telling you this, he's really quite shite

Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: danlanza on August 27, 2012, 04:19:13 PM
He was summed up in that run in the first half on Saturday. Skinned 2 defenders with some great skill, then got to the byline and promptly gave away a goal kick. The talent is there but will we ever see it in full?

Probably because when he looked up to see who was in the box he could only see Everton players therefore he delayed and was crowded out. No attacking players are going to look good in a team that can not get a grip in midfield and dominate some posession and that will include Charles, Bent, Albrighton and anyone else we choose to sign. Everytime we give one of these players the ball it's always a very long way from the opposition's goal and we're execting them to pul up trees. The central midfield has been piss poor since we sold Barry and Milner and I can't remember the last game we bossed. Sort that and perhaps some of our attacking players might get the ball in attacking areas then we can judge their ability.
By the time he looked up Nastylee he was almost at the Top of the Holte!!
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 27, 2012, 05:14:17 PM
the point is with N'Zogbia, nobody really gives a shit what he has to say. We all just want to see it. He's a very talented footballer when he wants to be. If nothing else, I want him to show Wigan like form for a few months, just so we can sell him when his stock is highest.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 27, 2012, 05:17:05 PM
Personally, I don't really give a shit about what any of them has to say.

I under stand the OS need to fill the site with something from day to day, but even so, it's irritating to read bollocks like that.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: supertom on August 27, 2012, 05:46:40 PM
There's little point making excuses for him. How bad our CM is, is irrelivant. The fact he seems incapable of even doing the basics is ridiculous. The least he could do is keep hold of the ball. One of his major assets is running at people and using pace. He seems incapable of this at the moment. He doesn't take people on enough or with any sort of conviction. He's also not as quick as he was at Wigan. He looks like he's carrying more weight than he used to. He may not be training well enough. If it's down to simply putting on muscle weight, then why does he still get nudged off the ball too easily?

Piss poor. Simple as that. No excuses. He doesn't even seem to show any promise of performing better. Even Downing in his first season here, when he was shite, still gave enough indication that things might get better. Thing is too, selling Downing and getting CNZ seemed like a good trade off. NZ has more natural ability and more pace. The fact he's been worse than SD has at Liverpool since joining just says it all. It's a 3/10 compared to a 4.

I think as soon as a half decent offer comes in for NZ and Ireland, Lambert will snatch it. I reckon he wants well rid of both the fuckers. I'm fed up of these supposed talented footballers being so bloody poor. Basically unless their playing in a very set way that they like, and/or feel like it,  they're shit. No flexability and no will to succeed. Charles can bugger off to some tinpot poor club and be adored for being better than the dross there, and as for Ireland, well I hope his dog shits down his shirt!

Harsh?
  8)
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: darren woolley on August 27, 2012, 05:47:14 PM
I really wish he can discover his Wigan form for us as of yet I'm still waiting and it could be a long wait.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: ktvillan on August 27, 2012, 07:28:33 PM
Surprised he got 10 goals the season before last.  Not bad for a winger, in a struggling team, and it shows there must a be a half decent player in there somewhere.  Maybe when Lambert's masterplan gets up to full speed we'll see a better N'Zogbia. 
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: eamonn on August 27, 2012, 07:45:34 PM
It might be best if Charles fooked off to Rotterdam or anywhere, Liverpool or Roma. I doubt any of them would take him though.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: not3bad on August 27, 2012, 08:14:22 PM
"Look up when you've got the ball".

Isn't that a lesson they teach you when you're 8 years old or something?
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: peter w on August 27, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
Quality Fletch.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on August 27, 2012, 09:10:28 PM
My old man had a saying... "And if shit was pudding, we'd all be full".

Talk is cheap, the guy is a waste of oxygen, on a level with Nigel Callaghan.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: danlanza on August 27, 2012, 09:15:51 PM
"Look up when you've got the ball".

Isn't that a lesson they teach you when you're 8 years old or something?
Not in France, apparently.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Rigadon on August 27, 2012, 09:21:11 PM
There's little point making excuses for him. How bad our CM is, is irrelivant. The fact he seems incapable of even doing the basics is ridiculous. The least he could do is keep hold of the ball. One of his major assets is running at people and using pace. He seems incapable of this at the moment. He doesn't take people on enough or with any sort of conviction. He's also not as quick as he was at Wigan. He looks like he's carrying more weight than he used to. He may not be training well enough. If it's down to simply putting on muscle weight, then why does he still get nudged off the ball too easily?

Piss poor. Simple as that. No excuses. He doesn't even seem to show any promise of performing better. Even Downing in his first season here, when he was shite, still gave enough indication that things might get better. Thing is too, selling Downing and getting CNZ seemed like a good trade off. NZ has more natural ability and more pace. The fact he's been worse than SD has at Liverpool since joining just says it all. It's a 3/10 compared to a 4.

I think as soon as a half decent offer comes in for NZ and Ireland, Lambert will snatch it. I reckon he wants well rid of both the fuckers. I'm fed up of these supposed talented footballers being so bloody poor. Basically unless their playing in a very set way that they like, and/or feel like it,  they're shit. No flexability and no will to succeed. Charles can bugger off to some tinpot poor club and be adored for being better than the dross there, and as for Ireland, well I hope his dog shits down his shirt!

Harsh?
  8)


You are on FIRE today mate! :)
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Rigadon on August 27, 2012, 09:22:00 PM
Agree, by the way.  He looks utterly inept every single time he plays football for us. 
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Nastylee on August 27, 2012, 09:52:27 PM
This thread could be written for any number of players in our team. I conclude that they must all be shit and we are doomed.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: The Left Side on August 28, 2012, 01:01:23 AM
blah blah blah, do your talking on the pitch Charles
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Dave Clark Five on August 28, 2012, 02:26:47 AM
blah blah blah, do your talking on the pitch Charles
...for another club. You've had more than enough chance at Villa and been shocking.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Risso on August 28, 2012, 09:13:23 AM
blah blah blah, do your talking on the pitch Charles
...for another club. You've had more than enough chance at Villa and been shocking.

Completely agree.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Malandro on August 28, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
blah blah blah, do your talking on the pitch Charles
...for another club. You've had more than enough chance at Villa and been shocking.

Completely agree.

But, but didn't his old chairman say he was the new Pires?
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 28, 2012, 02:07:32 PM
blah blah blah, do your talking on the pitch Charles
...for another club. You've had more than enough chance at Villa and been shocking.

Completely agree.

But, but didn't his old chairman say he was the new Pires?

his old chairman is a penis who thinks his manager is too good for Barcelona
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: rob_bridge on August 28, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
blah blah blah, do your talking on the pitch Charles
...for another club. You've had more than enough chance at Villa and been shocking.

Completely agree.

But, but didn't his old chairman say he was the new Pires?

his old chairman is a penis who thinks his manager is too good for Barcelona
.

The Nigel Callaghan quote is spot on from what he has shown so far -a complete waste(r) of space. Also don't see the appeal of Ireland though other do. We paid way over the odds (and continue to do so in wages) for both of them for very little return, though at least Ireland occasionally appears interested.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: MoetVillan on August 28, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
Is he referring to his next Itunes download?  because the only other time perfect and his footballing skill thus far at VP should be linked is the term "Perfectly shit"
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: Legion on August 29, 2012, 12:13:52 AM
Awful this evening. Truly, truly awful.
Title: Re: CN'Z aiming for a 'Perfect 10'
Post by: The Left Side on August 29, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
Awful this evening. Truly, truly awful.

There is a shock
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