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Title: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: martin@ardenley on June 10, 2012, 01:32:59 PM
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Paul Lambert insists Stiliyan Petrov will remain as club skipper next season - but revealed he will be looking for a team captain to lead his lions out to do battle on the pitch.

Lambert said Petrov's influence throughout the whole club dictates that he retains the figurehead position for the coming campaign.

But while the popular 32-year-old fights leukaemia in the loving company of his nearest and dearest, Lambert will assess the most suitable candidate to rally the troops for the 2012-13 term.

Lambert admits he was "sickened and devastated" when he heard news of Petrov's ailment because of his memories of the player as a fantastically fit star at Celtic.

But the new Villa boss insists Petrov will beat the disease.

He said: "Stiliyan is still club captain, no doubt. Even if I wasn't manager of Aston Villa, his health is more important to me than anything.

"I just need to look for a team captain but I wouldn't take anything away from Stiliyan for what he's done here and what he's going through at the minute.

"He is a huge influence on this football club. I will go down and see him again, I text him and see how he's feeling.

"This is an illness that affects thousands of people and it's hard because of the relationship I had with him. I played with him when he was only 19 and he first came over to Scotland.

"I had eight or so years with him. That's a long time to have someone as a team-mate. I just hope and I'm pretty sure he will beat that.

"At the time I was told, we were on our way to Fulham. I was just devastated. I couldn't believe it.

"He was at Celtic, he was one of the fittest footballers I'd ever played with. It just makes a mockery of life, really, because of how fit he was.

"He's such a strong lad and a terrific guy. Hopefully he'll be okay and be here. It makes you sick, actually, when you have played with someone and seen them in their prime and are close to them then you know he has an illness like that.

"Your health is more important than anything. I'm pretty sure he'll beat that."

Lambert visited Petrov some months ago and got a good vibe from the midfield marvel.

He added: "I was with him for a few hours. He was doing great and I'm looking forward to going back down to see him."
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Dave Clark Five on June 10, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
Some nice genuine comments by the Manager there.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 10, 2012, 01:57:05 PM
The story does deserve a thread of it's own. I stuck it in the Celtic friendly thread. Great comments by Lambert. He clearly is very close to Stan and this is a nice thing to do.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Pete3206 on June 10, 2012, 01:58:33 PM
That will give Petrov a huge boost. Well done Mr Lambert.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Risso on June 10, 2012, 02:00:02 PM
Has there been any word as to how Stan is getting on? 
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: woody4866 on June 10, 2012, 02:11:58 PM
A genuine and heartfelt piece that – well done Lambo
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: brian green on June 10, 2012, 03:00:15 PM
A woman who came into my place of work saw my Stan tee shirt and told me that her son is one of the oncologists from UCL treating Stan.   She said her son had said what a nice man Stan is and that he was "doing very well".   It is of course a stock assessment of seriously ill patients but I pass it on for what it is worth.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: VillaAlways on June 10, 2012, 03:23:15 PM
A woman who came into my place of work saw my Stan tee shirt and told me that her son is one of the oncologists from UCL treating Stan.   She said her son had said what a nice man Stan is and that he was "doing very well".   It is of course a stock assessment of seriously ill patients but I pass it on for what it is worth.
Thanks Brian,that's good to hear
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: AvFc4eVeR on June 10, 2012, 03:35:05 PM
Well done PL. Will the 19th minute applause carry on next season?
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: olaftab on June 10, 2012, 03:51:56 PM
Well done Paul for keeping Stan as club captain and some great insight into their career togather at Celtic.
On the 19th minute issue I think we should discontinue that as we need to move on from last season and Stan knows he has our best wishes. I think he being the man he is would do the same.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: old man villa fan on June 10, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
A sensible approach from the manager, keeping Petrov on as club captain but looking for an inspirational team captain.  Let's not kid ourselves, this is a serious illness and seeing Petrov playing at the top level is remote, bearing in mind he is 32 now.

The choice of team captain would appear then to be a long term selection and not a stop gap solution.  I do not see anybody in the current squad that is up to it.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Ian. on June 10, 2012, 04:25:41 PM
Good stuff from the new boss and keep fighting Stan.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: UK Redsox on June 10, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
Well done PL. Will the 19th minute applause carry on next season?

As much as I supported it (and respect those who started it), I don't think that it should continue next season.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 10, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
I can't see the 19th minute tribute stopping. Only needs a few to start it, and then who wouldn't join in?
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 10, 2012, 04:41:24 PM
I think it will still happen naturally.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 10, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
I can't see the 19th minute tribute stopping. Only needs a few to start it, and then who wouldn't join in?

Albion.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: olaftab on June 10, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
There  will be a natural end if the club stop displaying the Stan 19 on the screen. After a while it will be  exception rather than norm and may be that's the way it should go.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 10, 2012, 04:57:25 PM
Personally I think it should be spontaneous whether it happens next season. I'm sure Stan knows we support him.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on June 10, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
I think Stan might step down as a player then become no 2 to Paul Lambert depending on how his fitness is.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Olneythelonely on June 10, 2012, 07:20:06 PM
It's up to the individual, but I'll be continuing it until he's better.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: evalast1910 on June 10, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
Someone I know around where I live, him and his wife are very food friends with Stan's missus and Stan himself, he told me a couple of weeks ago that him and PL are very good friends. He also mentioned that Stan's treatment is going very well and they think he will play again next season, which shocked me!
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: villan from luton on June 10, 2012, 09:04:37 PM
I hope that is the case evalast, would be great to see him in a Villa shirt again
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Top Cat on June 10, 2012, 09:13:49 PM
I'd like the applause on 19 minutes to continue I think.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: not3bad on June 10, 2012, 09:44:02 PM
I'd like the applause on 19 minutes to continue I think.

It would actually be nicer and a more meaningful guesture if it carried on without 'official' backing from the club.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 10, 2012, 11:18:40 PM
I'd like the applause on 19 minutes to continue I think.

It would actually be nicer and a more meaningful guesture if it carried on without 'official' backing from the club.

So what do you want to do if the club keep backing it? Stop?
Are the club not allowed to also express their gratitude to Stan and hope he gets better?
All they do is stick his picture and number on the big screen, hardly intrusive is it?
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: not3bad on June 11, 2012, 12:21:50 AM
I'd like the applause on 19 minutes to continue I think.

It would actually be nicer and a more meaningful guesture if it carried on without 'official' backing from the club.

So what do you want to do if the club keep backing it? Stop?
Are the club not allowed to also express their gratitude to Stan and hope he gets better?
All they do is stick his picture and number on the big screen, hardly intrusive is it?

If they did continue to do that then it would be fine, I didn't mean to imply they shouldn't.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 11, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
I'd like the applause on 19 minutes to continue I think.

It would actually be nicer and a more meaningful guesture if it carried on without 'official' backing from the club.

So what do you want to do if the club keep backing it? Stop?
Are the club not allowed to also express their gratitude to Stan and hope he gets better?
All they do is stick his picture and number on the big screen, hardly intrusive is it?

If they did continue to do that then it would be fine, I didn't mean to imply they shouldn't.

Sorry, got your post wrong, thought you were saying the club shouldn't carry on supporting Stan so the fans could. Ignore me, long weekend at work.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: amfy on June 11, 2012, 07:39:59 AM
I can see why the Club wouldn't want to stop supporting it, but tbh, right from the start I wished they wouldn't put a prompt on the screen (although it is helpful from the point of view of knowing when the minute is up).
To use the phrase of the moment, it makes it feel a bit "north Korea", which is a misrepresentation of what actually happened. The idea came from the fans, and if it had been left with the fans it would have had a natural term to it. The club now have to decide whether to continue to "orchestrate" it, or to look heartless by stopping it - they've painted themselves into a bit of a corner really.
Having said that, the simple answer is for the man with the finger on the button to wait and see whether the fans start it, and then put the picture/message up if we do.


Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 11, 2012, 09:38:36 AM
It's up to the individual, but I'll be continuing it until he's better.
This for me

Someone I know around where I live, him and his wife are very food friends with Stan's missus and Stan himself, he told me a couple of weeks ago that him and PL are very good friends. He also mentioned that Stan's treatment is going very well and they think he will play again next season, which shocked me!

Bloody hell! I really do hope this happens, it'll be just as emotional for me as when I heard the horrible news in the first place
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: villa pride on June 11, 2012, 01:25:44 PM
I want the applause to continue but really hope we see the day when we are able to applaud Stan when he is playing again. 
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: Risso on June 11, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
I can see why the Club wouldn't want to stop supporting it, but tbh, right from the start I wished they wouldn't put a prompt on the screen (although it is helpful from the point of view of knowing when the minute is up).
To use the phrase of the moment, it makes it feel a bit "north Korea", which is a misrepresentation of what actually happened. The idea came from the fans, and if it had been left with the fans it would have had a natural term to it. The club now have to decide whether to continue to "orchestrate" it, or to look heartless by stopping it - they've painted themselves into a bit of a corner really.
Having said that, the simple answer is for the man with the finger on the button to wait and see whether the fans start it, and then put the picture/message up if we do.




There's also the possible tricky situation that could occur if something happens like say, the opposition scores or a controversial incident such as a penalty claim on the exact moment of the 19th minute.  Far better that it's spontaneous than risking the gesture being devalued because Villa fans are swearing at the referee or similar.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: not3bad on June 11, 2012, 02:22:12 PM
I can see why the Club wouldn't want to stop supporting it, but tbh, right from the start I wished they wouldn't put a prompt on the screen (although it is helpful from the point of view of knowing when the minute is up).
To use the phrase of the moment, it makes it feel a bit "north Korea", which is a misrepresentation of what actually happened. The idea came from the fans, and if it had been left with the fans it would have had a natural term to it. The club now have to decide whether to continue to "orchestrate" it, or to look heartless by stopping it - they've painted themselves into a bit of a corner really.
Having said that, the simple answer is for the man with the finger on the button to wait and see whether the fans start it, and then put the picture/message up if we do.




There's also the possible tricky situation that could occur if something happens like say, the opposition scores or a controversial incident such as a penalty claim on the exact moment of the 19th minute.  Far better that it's spontaneous than risking the gesture being devalued because Villa fans are swearing at the referee or similar.

I had previously wondered what it would be like if something like this happened in the 19th minute.
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: andrew08 on June 11, 2012, 02:35:57 PM
I have thought this myself, but the odds on us scoring from a corner in the 19th minute these days with, say, a fiver on it, would mean mortgage redemption for me !
Title: Re: Petrov to remain as club captain
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
It was quite bizarre clapping while the opponents had us under pressure winning corners etc.
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