Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: UK Redsox on May 22, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
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I see that Martin Laursen has "ruled himself out" as Manager.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/7770705/Laursen-Too-soon-for-Villa
However, given Villa's defensive frailties last season (especially at set pieces), how about using Martin in some kind of "Defensive Co-Ordinator" role at the club.
The only time that I can remember this being tried in the past was Lawrenson at Newcastle.
Would it work at Villa ?
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No, stop it.
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I love it that he loves us.
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I'd make a role for him. Defensive viking overlord.
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Ole is rumoured to be bringing 2 coaches with him and we know Randy will want K-Mac and Sid kept on in some capacity, so is there really any room for another?
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One of the coaches is a goalie coach. So yes.
Although I reckon Laursen will be learning his trade elsewhere for a year or two yet before there's any chance of coming here.
It would be nice to have him onboard though. He's exactly the sort of character we need and one "gets" the club.
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Look at the club mentioned above. Newcastle. They go in for sentimental nonsense like this there. If we appoint OGS he needs to bring his own men in, not have someone foisted on him to further appease the fans.
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Agreed, if we appoint OGS (or anyone else for that matter) to do the job and sort the football side out then he brings in only who he wants.
If that means Kmac goes then so be it.
Otherwise we might aswell appoint Bruce or McCarthy.
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Look at the club mentioned above. Newcastle. They go in for sentimental nonsense like this there. If we appoint OGS he needs to bring his own men in, not have someone foisted on him to further appease the fans.
100% agree with this and including Sid and Mac if that is the case
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Agreed, if we appoint OGS (or anyone else for that matter) to do the job and sort the football side out then he brings in only who he wants.
If that means Kmac goes then so be it.
Otherwise we might aswell appoint Bruce or McCarthy.
Exactly, hopefully Laursen somewhere down the line can have a role at Villa. However if we appoint Solskjaer or Lambert they need to be able to bring their own men in. If they see a role for the likes of Kmac and Sid then great, but we can't be hindered by sentimentality. I don't want them to go, but we can't keep them just because they're club men.
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Let him get some experience coaching/managing but keep an eye on him, he could be one for the future. Meanwhile, he could do a bit of scouting for us in his neck of the woods.
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Look at the club mentioned above. Newcastle. They go in for sentimental nonsense like this there. If we appoint OGS he needs to bring his own men in, not have someone foisted on him to further appease the fans.
100% agree with this and including Sid and Mac if that is the case
I know this is heresy to even raise, but Sid has been on the bench for the last two seasons, and one imagines has a big roll in coaching.
Hmmm.
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I don't think keeping K-Mac and Sid is a sentimental decision as both would provide some continuity to our emerging youth players and have already proven themselves to be good coaches.
Laursen might be, though.
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McLeish was a good defender. Wonder what he's doing now?
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McLeish won European honours, just like John Terry....
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In my opinion it is still extremely important to have not only proven winners but people who are Villa through and through at the club Sid and Kmac definitely fall into that category (it may mean that their current job role may change but just like at Man United and Liverpool (of old) I think you need people like that to pass on the clubs history and their experience etc. I wouldn't compare keeping them on to Newcastle wanting to appoint Ant and Dec.
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Look at the club mentioned above. Newcastle. They go in for sentimental nonsense like this there. If we appoint OGS he needs to bring his own men in, not have someone foisted on him to further appease the fans.
100% agree with this and including Sid and Mac if that is the case
I know this is heresy to even raise, but Sid has been on the bench for the last two seasons, and one imagines has a big roll in coaching.
Hmmm.
As was MacDonald this season. You could argue that the pair of them have been given a pretty easy ride considering.
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As much loved as they are, if OGS wants them out or back with the reserves and youth, then so be it. The new man should get his own coaching team that he wants.
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Oh and if going down the former player route, what is the man who Solskjaer played alongside at United and for Norway, former Villa player Ronny Johnsen?
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Maybe the backroom staff need flushing out?
There does seem to be an air of complacency around the place, hopefully OGS or Lambert could get rid of the malaise.
If that means old favourites getting the push, so be it.
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As much loved as they are, if OGS wants them out or back with the reserves and youth, then so be it. The new man should get his own coaching team that he wants.
Totally agree Jim. I know it has been covered before, but John Deehan mentioned in a radio interview a few weeks ago that a number of candidates turned the job down last summer because it was stipulated that Cowans and K-Mac had to be on the coaching staff. Again, hopefully lessons were learned from that.
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Look at the club mentioned above. Newcastle. They go in for sentimental nonsense like this there. If we appoint OGS he needs to bring his own men in, not have someone foisted on him to further appease the fans.
sentimental nonsense like that is how OGS got his start at man u coaching the reserves
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Defensive coach!!!!!! The league is ours!!!!!
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Best players don't make best coaches.
Best forwards can't teach others how to be best forwards.
Best defenders can't teach others how to be best defenders.
People who are naturally gifted can not explain their talent to anyone.
Wayne Rooney will be a shit coach if he ever tries to be.
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SAF does not have a single sentimental bone in his body when it comes to winning. He hired Ole because he thought he'd make a good coach, not because of his playing career at the club.
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Let's have a first eleven of ex-players as coaches to work with each position. I'll start with Alan Wright as specialist short-arse coach.
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Joey Barton-Specialist thug and headbutt coach.
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How about a roll for Richard Dunne?
I think he prefers ham and bacon with mayonaisse, hold the salad.
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Richard Dunne as dietician.
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Andy Gray-specialist sexist remark and pen waiving coach
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I think you've missed the point a bit there with Joey Barton danlanza!
I nominate Juan Pablo Angel as offside coach ... oh, wait a minute!
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I think you've missed the point a bit there danlanza!
I nominate Juan Pablo Angel as offside coach ... oh, wait a minute!
Merson and McGrath as entertainment co-ordinators.
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I think you've missed the point a bit there with Joey Barton danlanza!
I nominate Juan Pablo Angel as offside coach ... oh, wait a minute!
Woops!
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Emile Heskey for goal scoring coach...............to far i know..sorry.
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Ogs should have the freedom to choose all of his backroom staff with no sentiment involved regarding ex villa players.
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Peter Crouch as dance coach.
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Stephen Ireland for haircutting coach?
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James Collins for kicking the fuck out of the glass doors at the training ground coach?
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Ron Atkinson-Pie eating and Kick racism out of football coach!
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Look at the club mentioned above. Newcastle. They go in for sentimental nonsense like this there. If we appoint OGS he needs to bring his own men in, not have someone foisted on him to further appease the fans.
100% agree with this and including Sid and Mac if that is the case
I know this is heresy to even raise, but Sid has been on the bench for the last two seasons, and one imagines has a big roll in coaching.
Hmmm.
As was MacDonald this season. You could argue that the pair of them have been given a pretty easy ride considering.
Easy ride or ignored? I know which I believe.
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Look at the club mentioned above. Newcastle. They go in for sentimental nonsense like this there. If we appoint OGS he needs to bring his own men in, not have someone foisted on him to further appease the fans.
100% agree with this and including Sid and Mac if that is the case
I know this is heresy to even raise, but Sid has been on the bench for the last two seasons, and one imagines has a big roll in coaching.
Hmmm.
As was MacDonald this season. You could argue that the pair of them have been given a pretty easy ride considering.
Easy ride or ignored? I know which I believe.
I meant they have been given an easy ride by the fans in light of the hammering other members of staff (Houllier, MacAllister, McLeish and Grant) have got.
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Sadly, I don't think KMac or Sid were that involved in the training set up. That was 'designed' by AM and footballing genius, Peter grant. Rumours towards the end of the season stated both players and staff were very confused as to the training sessions ordered by McLeish.
My guess is we only trained using two thirds of the pitch.
I'd imagine both Sid and Kevin feel very short changed from their experiences with the first team squad and I wouldn't be surprised to see Kevin MacDonald leave in the next few months.
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Emile Heskey for goal scoring coach...............to far i know..sorry.
Heskey would be in charge of scaring the pigeons from under the roof of the Holte and North Stand.
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Ivo Sta: Fitness
Richard Dunne: Fatness
Yorke & Bosnich: Video work on opponents
Paul Mortimer: Helping players settle into a new club.
Unsworth: can be his assistant.
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