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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on May 05, 2012, 09:58:10 AM
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Available Sunday lunchtime.
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@AVFCOfficial: Villa: Given, Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Lichaj, N’Zogbia, Herd, Clark, Warnock, Ireland, Heskey. #AVFC
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Wouldn't have Heskey but otherwise a decent team.
2-0 Spurs.
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Bloody hell how many defenders can we fit in a team. Oh well come on you Villa boys. Ideally a Villa win and Mcleish out on the same day.
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Another match another player injured close to the match..every week someone suddenly disappears ..wtf are they doing in training
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Gabby dropped?
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Bench please?
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Gabby Agbonlahor has bruised ribs. Hasn't been able to train. Should make the Norwich game next weekend.
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Bench please?
22 Guzan
06 Collins
25 Bannan
38 Gardner
40 Carruthers
14 Delfouneso
26 Weimann
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Hutton is playing, thats all i need to know-wanker
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Losing Reo-Choker, Makoun, Jenas and Petrov over the past 12 months...maybe even Delph a bit, has bitten us hard. Clark has the ability to match up to Spurs' midfield, I hope he shows it.
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any decent streams for todays match?
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Come on You Lions!
If we got a point today I think I would be overjoyed.
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This one hasn't started yet but worth a try
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html (http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html)
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Come on Villa, let's scrape a draw!
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I think we're set up to try to draw today.
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greetings from Shanghai, China, on this final home game wanna say come on you Villa boys, lets sign off in good Villa style with a win, lets regroup for next season. To all the Heroes and Villains folk! Here's to you. Cheers!
Come on you LIONS!
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I think we're set up to try to draw today.
Big surprise.
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I think we're set up to try to draw today.
or keep the score down to retain goal difference!
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A new formation of 7-2-0.5
Interesting.
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Under the cirumstances it's the best team we could put out unless playing Weimann up front instead of our Ivanhoe.
The issue for me is not the selection, it's the instructions they get from McL and his sidekick.
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http://www.eplsite.com/stream7.html
http://www.eplsite.com/stream8.html
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
Potential streams...
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I can't see how we are going to score a goal with that team, especially the way we are likely to be set up, and getting a 0-0 against spuds is always going to be difficult.
I have the feeling it's going to be a long afternoon.
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Effdee has it spot on, best team selection available except having weimann in there. Let's hope dick n Dom in the dugout can inspire the lads for a change! UTV!
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Nothing we can do but cheer them on. Come on the villa
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Lots of empty seats again...
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greetings from Shanghai, China, on this final home game wanna say come on you Villa boys, lets sign off in good Villa style with a win, lets regroup for next season. To all the Heroes and Villains folk! Here's to you. Cheers!
Come on you LIONS!
I didn't realise we had fans this far away.fair play son, UTV
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Dunne looks like he's lost a bit of timber; albeit he had a lot to lose.
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Hutton says it all. That team will not score (maybe owngoal)
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Good kicking action from Herd against Modric there. I swear I've seen it somewhere before.
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Sorry for being negative (thanks to the line up). But a simple pass to Heskey, and the ball bounces off him 6-8 yards
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Come on the Villa!
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Sorry for being negative (thanks to the line up). But a simple pass to Heskey, and the ball bounces off him 6-8 yards
Shh, he's in fantastic form...
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Bright start.
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Decent start.
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The VP pitch looks great ...
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I have one mug to buy so far. Hoping to have four on order after this game
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Those hoofs are just pathetic. They never, ever work.
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.. team's start not bad either
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The VP pitch looks great ...
The groundsman has credited it to the shit that's been on it all season.
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Hey lads I know certain people frown upon this but any links for match please just in from work and aint got time to check a hundred sites ???
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Not too bad a start.
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The VP pitch looks great ...
The groundsman has credited it to the shit that's been on it all season.
LOL
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Half decent start by us! Come on you Lions!
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Encouraging so far.
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Hutttonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
Oh ... :-)
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when Hutton drew his left foot back for that one I had a feeling it wouldn't result in a goal
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Afternoon all. Come on you lions....
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when Hutton drew his left foot back for that one I had a feeling it wouldn't result in a goal
I jumped under my desk.
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N'Zog's been watching Emile too much - his first touch is dreadful.
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I maintain N'Zog is a good player we just don't know how to use him
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Heskey: no pace.
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If only that was Gabby.
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Was that a penalty or not?
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Would Weimann have had that?
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I didn't even get excited when Heskey was through...how sad is that :(
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It didn't surprise me thay the tumbling bear went to ground, what did shock me was the pace he showed to actually get there. I've not seen him move so quickly.
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I have to say, we're looking up for it and they're looking utterly shit. We should get something from this.
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Would Weimann have had that?
100% yes, he's a goal scorer, Heskey isn't.
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The VP pitch looks great ...
The groundsman has credited it to the shit that's been on it all season.
Superb.
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Not a pen looking at the replay.
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Well played Dunney.
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Brilliant Richard Dunne.
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Great pace from Dicky Dunne
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Fucking cracking tackle by Dunne. Row ZZ.
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Tottenham bossing it at the moment.
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"Lennon taking on Heskey for pace" - thanks Mr Commentator!
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Any links lads....pretty please ?
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Why has Man City Newcastle suddenly came on my stream.
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I hope (and think) Dunne has a personal agenda to make sure we don't buckle. To much pride!
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Well played, Hutton - 2 good blocks.
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Any links lads....pretty please ?
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
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Attack against defence at the moment. I think we know which role we're playing.
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1 thing I've noticed about us this year is we never win the 2nd ball from corners (defending or attacking), we just never seem to have anyone at the edge of the box, that's got to be a tactical thing.
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Ireland looks really up for it, But as ever, McLeish playing one up front negates his impact.
Well, playing Heskey up front anyway.
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If we showed this much ambition and commitment earlier this season as we have today we wouldn't be in this position. We lack real quality and between selling players and injuries it hasn't helped
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Tottenham bossing it at the moment.
Their first 30 seconds where they've managed to keep the ball, apart from that we've been on top, always first to the ball, 110% effort.
Keep calm, Stu.
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Ireland looks really up for it, But as ever, McLeish playing one up front negates his impact.
Well, playing Heskey up front anyway.
It's not the one up front, it's who the one up front is, the depth of the midfield and the wide players playing as secondary full-backs.
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Nice to see the closing-down energy of the team so far; they need to maintain this for the full 90+ minutes.
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FFS Zogbia...DOES IT EVERYTIME....One try to much...digging and digging further into trouble.... PASS IT
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Any links lads....pretty please ?
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
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Any links lads....pretty please ?
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
Appreciated pal
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N'Zogbia is so utterly frustrating to watch.
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Ireland looks really up for it, But as ever, McLeish playing one up front negates his impact.
Well, playing Heskey up front anyway.
It's not the one up front, it's who the one up front is, the depth of the midfield and the wide players playing as secondary full-backs.
Given the players available, I don't have a problem with Warnock playing in MF. The problem is actually N'Zog who looks so bereft of confidence and energy.
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Oh crap. N'Zogbia down.
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N'Zogbia down.
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Bolton winning.
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N'Zogbia has been poor so far today.
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Get Carruthers on for N'Zog if he's not fit to play on.
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Brilliant Stephen Ireland. Lion.
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Superb defensive run Ireland. But this is soooo depressing to watch.
Man City reserves are the only ones doing anything in this game.
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Shit Bolton 1 up
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Bolton winning.
Oh bollocks
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Walker hooning it into the Holte again. Bolton scored a penalty.
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Weimann would come on for Zogbia wouldn't he?
QPR are the team we need to lose
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Hutton showing hear there too.
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Weimann would come on for Zogbia wouldn't he?
QPR are the team we need to lose
You're right 'cos the Boggies are not reliable away from home. Probelm is the Stokies aren't great away from home either.
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I have paid to watch Emule ambling around on his own in front of the North Stand.
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Heskey si so shit.
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Well played Carlos!!
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Cuellar!! God bless you man!
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Hutton doing what he does badly - getting caught out of position.
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Bolton winning.
Oh bollocks
Bolton aren't the problem, it's Blackburn and QPR. As it stands, we'd be safe from Blackburn.
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Hutton follow your man you twat, don't stop and appeal for a handball when it blatantly wasn't.
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I have paid to watch Emule ambling around on his own in front of the North Stand.
You're getting your money's worth then.
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Eff off Heskey...That chance almost gave them a goal. Shittiest footballer ever bar Hutton
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To be fair, the North Stand is much cleaner since Randy had the K'Archers on it.
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Spurs starting to dominate now.
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They are all over us.
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Bolton winning.
Oh bollocks
Bolton aren't the problem, it's Blackburn and QPR. As it stands, we'd be safe from Blackburn.
I don't want any of them catching us
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I have paid to watch Emule ambling around on his own in front of the North Stand.
You're getting your money's worth then.
What can I expect for £1.99?
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Grreat defending!!
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I have paid to watch Emule ambling around on his own in front of the North Stand.
They've finally found a use for the big lump then, is he a steward or selling programmes?
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Well done Carlos,again.
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defending is great, just wish we wern't having to do so much of it
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Great defending so far.
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This is just terrible. Their goal is inevitable, and our only forward has done nothing but fall over and give away the ball.
The defence has been fantastic, but it's just all backs to the wall for the next hour. At home.
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We get nose-bleeds in their area.
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Actually, given his limitations, Emile has played pretty well so far. He's not going to beat Kaboul for pace but he's put himself around well.
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After a brightish start we are getting played off the park now, defence doing well.
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One of our biggest issues is that on the break we have to be the slowest team in the league. It guarantees making attacking infinitely more difficult
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I think I'd rather see a pillow case full of donkey shite being rolled up and down the right flank than Alan Hutton.
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This is just terrible.
I think you're overstating it
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yesss
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Yessssssssssss
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Well in Ciaran!
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COME ON!!!!!! CLARKE!!!!!1 YESSS!!!!
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YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
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This is just terrible. Their goal is inevitable, and our only forward has done nothing but fall over and give away the ball.
The defence has been fantastic, but it's just all backs to the wall for the next hour. At home.
Against Spurs don't forget. Playing one up front is costing us though, everyone is having to pile up in support, leaving space at the back.
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Get in!!!!!
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Get in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Get in!!!!!
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YES
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YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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OH HELL YEAH!
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Oi up chapsGET THE FUCK IN
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Get in Clarke!!!!
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late I know, but does anyone have a link to a stream? Thanks!
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"ROFL".
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Get in there ciaran.
looks like a massive deflection, but if you try your hand you get a chance of getting lucky, terrible by friedel tbh.
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What a time to log onto my feed....
Other than that hows it been going?
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Ten quid on an equaliser within five minutes.
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McLeish took a note after the goal. "must discipline Clark after the game for breaking the shooting rule"
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Come on Villa!
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I havn't roared so hard at a villa goal in ages!
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late I know, but does anyone have a link to a stream? Thanks!
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
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Well done to the Villa fans. Two minutes ago Clark had a chance to shoot but instead passed it. The crowd let him know what he should have done. He didn't make the same mistake twice.
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Try and go for a second rather than sit back and get twatted.
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late I know, but does anyone have a link to a stream? Thanks!
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
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The MF need to just remember that Heskey does not have the pace of GA or the instinct of Weimann. If they play to his strengths ...
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Save from Shay there.
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Great save Given
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Wow - what a save.
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Save Shay
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Given. Brilliant.
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Great save from given
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Good stop Shay
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Ten quid on an equaliser within five minutes.
If Given wasn't world class you'd be on a banker there, great save.
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We really need to hang on here. Obvious but true.
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What a time to log onto my feed....
Other than that hows it been going?
End to end, bloody good game, just a shame so much is at stake. We're certainly up for it.
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Whoever says Ireland doesn't put a shift in is full of it.
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I'm impressed with Irleand's effort; and I've not said that before.
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Ireland and Clark have been super so far in fairness. I love Clark as a footballer. He is a good midfielder when not having to play the holding role, because he is an excellent footballer.
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Have we been playing ok?
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Ten quid on an equaliser within five minutes.
If Given wasn't world class you'd be on a banker there, great save.
Cracking save!
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N'Zogbia is our weak link
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Without Given we'd be relegated by now.
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N'Zogbia is our weak link
Agreed - I'd get Carruthers on for his energy.
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Christ backs against the wall now.
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N'Zogbia is our weak link
Aye. Piss poor today.
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Have we been playing ok?
As well as could be expected given the players available.
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Ireland and Clark have been super so far in fairness. I love Clark as a footballer. He is a good midfielder when not having to play the holding role, because he is an excellent footballer.
I think Clark is a cracking player; and I'd add that Herd has done some great covering work.
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Ireland and Clark have been super so far in fairness. I love Clark as a footballer. He is a good midfielder when not having to play the holding role, because he is an excellent footballer.
Agreed, Clark has been quality so far, he's got a great engine and a really good footballing brain.
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It's going to be a LONG second half isn't it?!
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Is Gabby on the bench?
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I get more nervous when we lead 1-0. Would love a second!
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N'Zogbia is our weak link
Agreed - I'd get Carruthers on for his energy.
should happen at halftime, will happen about 88-89minutes.
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An equaliser is inevitable, one feels.
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I think my heart just skipped a beat there.
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Bleedin' hell, I thought VDV had scored there! Great move.
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Close one. Asleep from a corner.
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Could that be the goal that gives McLeish a second chance to relegate us? @BadEnglish_
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Is Gabby on the bench?
Nope, he's out with bruised ribs or something.
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Excellent Ireland. Hesky is a kit washers nightmare.
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For fuck sake Heskey.
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Ireland has been fecking immense...covered every blade of grass and provided some cracking defensive cover...
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Is Gabby on the bench?
Nope, he's out with bruised ribs or something.
We've get Emule's spare ribs on the pitch though.
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For fuck sake Heskey.
If I had a penny for....
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With Ireland on song down the middle, Weimann would be a wise sub. That's if we want a second.
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With a quick striker I'd fancy us to score another on the break away, as it is I just hope we can hang on! Great attitude from the team so far though!
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Could that be the goal that gives McLeish a second chance to relegate us? @BadEnglish_
NO NO NO NO NO Please God NO...
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late I know, but does anyone have a link to a stream? Thanks!
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123015/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
Thanks!
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Ireland immense for us. Everything positive goes through him.
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We need a second goal to make this safe - to state the obvious.
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For fuck sake Heskey.
If I had a penny for....
Every Heskey goal? 14p
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Ciaran for fuck's sake KEEP THE BALL. They play with such fear.
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I wish we could keep hold of the ball, its torture.
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I would have snatched your hand off for a 0-0, now I will snatch it off for a 1-1
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Great movement from Ireland.
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With Ireland on song down the middle, Weimann would be a wise sub. That's if we want a second.
Somebody fool McLeish and write "defender" next to Weimann's name and he'll be on after HT. Probably for Ireland though.
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Are we on Fergie time?
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More of the same please.
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Spursss have been well on top, but well done lads. Try to not listen to Mcleish at half time.
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Can't fault them. They are giving their all and the fans are responding.
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Well that was unexpected...
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I think we've played okay, given the different states of the two teams. Only N'Zog has disappointed.
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Much better than I was expecting.
The twitch-eyed one has the ability, and the players, to change things around in the second half, and we'll stay with things exactly as they are. A very nervous 45 minutes coming on.
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We've been good. Huge half coming up now. Ireland has been fantastic.
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With Ireland on song down the middle, Weimann would be a wise sub. That's if we want a second.
Somebody fool McLeish and write "defender" next to Weimann's name and he'll be on after HT. Probably for Ireland though.
Or change his name to Emile Heskey by deed poll.
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Impressed with the players effort on the pitch, whether we can hold out for another 45 minutes is debatable, I have a feeling it's gonna be a nervy second half
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Much better than I was expecting.
The twitch-eyed one has the ability, and the players, to change things around in the second half, and we'll stay with things exactly as they are. A very nervous 45 minutes coming on.
We won't stay as we are we will start to defend deeper and deeper until we concede then we will try to hang on for a point.
I just hope we can hang the fuck on and get something out of this game and the two below us get fuck all.
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Impressed.
If we can defend like we did at Liverpool we'll be safe. Would like to stay up in style but hey, we are what we are, bottom of the table fighting for our premiership lives.
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Spurs have been all over us but a combination of great last ditch defending, excellent goalkeeping and some wayward finishing have given us a good chance. Lucky deflection for the goal but quite frankly we are due a little luck!
Just ignore anything McLeish says lads!
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Redknapp had a face like a smacked arse walking down the tunnel. Mind you it would be the same had we not taken the lead.
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With Ireland on song down the middle, Weimann would be a wise sub. That's if we want a second.
Somebody fool McLeish and write "defender" next to Weimann's name and he'll be on after HT. Probably for Ireland though.
Or change his name to Emile Heskey by deed poll.
Won't that make him fall over?
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This is the point where his lack of ability as a manager has shone through all season, we're in the lead, probably slightly against the run of play, but have looked decent, in virtually every other match where this has been the case at half time we've come out and sat 9-0-1 and tried to hang on, ending up getting stuffed.
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45 mins to keep a clean sheet, come on
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Don't just defend.
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They are going to score. We just need to ensure it is only the once. A point will be a big deal today. I wish I had any confidence that we had the ability to score on the break. We're just not fast enough. The days of fit Gabby, Ash and Downing are long gone.
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Aint bothered about a clean sheet as long as we get more goals than Spuds. Man city 1-0 up
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This is the point where his lack of ability as a manager has shone through all season, we're in the lead, probably slightly against the run of play, but have looked decent, in virtually every other match where this has been the case at half time we've come out and sat 9-0-1 and tried to hang on, ending up getting stuffed.
Worst record for defending a lead in the division. So, you're right.
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They are going to score. We just need to ensure it is only the once. A point will be a big deal today. I wish I had any confidence that we had the ability to score on the break. We're just not fast enough. The days of fit Gabby, Ash and Downing are long gone.
That's why a Carruthers-for-N'Zog makes sense: we get more energy, more pace and greater commitment (based on Carruthers' previous subb appearances).
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Lets hope 15 minutes with eck has not killed us.
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They are going to score. We just need to ensure it is only the once. A point will be a big deal today. I wish I had any confidence that we had the ability to score on the break. We're just not fast enough. The days of fit Gabby, Ash and Downing are long gone.
That's why a Carruthers-for-N'Zog makes sense: we get more energy, more pace and greater commitment (based on Carruthers' previous subb appearances).
I'd bring on weimann for heskey in about 10-15minutes as well, we need to try to get a 2nd, defending for 45mins is just too risky.
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Only 44 minutes to hang on
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Lets hope 15 minutes with eck has not killed us.
His half time team talk must be stuff of legend.
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Nervy start...!
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Dodgy start to the 2nd half.
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Any changes?
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Lets hope 15 minutes with eck has not killed us.
His half time team talk must be stuff of legend.
Legends of the Fool?
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Christ this is going to be like the Alamo.
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Only 44 minutes to hang on
The draw or the win? One thing is certain we will have to hang on and hope.
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Any changes?
McLeish appears to have taken off our balls.
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10 players behind the ball. 11 players in our own box for their corner.
McLeish's new habit of staying on the bench away from the touchline should also be in effect through halftime.
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Woah! Red Card for Danny Rose!
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Shit they are down to 10....
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Rose off, red card.
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Rose sent off!
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Red for Rose!
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Hmmm - I'd like to see that again; except my stream has gone down.
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That was a disgusting challenge. And he's protesting? Dirty fucker
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We always play worse against 10 men.
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It was a horrible challenge.
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Fucking hell if we're ever going to win, we're against bloody ten men now. That was a horrible, but unfortunate challenge.
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Right call, studs up midway up the shin, was always going to be a red.
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Fuck me that was a horrible challenge. Definite red.
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That's a red card all day long. Fuck Off Rose!
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Crap tackle. High
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Shit, that really was nasty.
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I think Hutton may have a broken leg. If he hasn't it's luck rather than judgement
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Fucking hall, how that never broke Huttons leg...
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Weimann on for Heskey. Positive.
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It was a horrible challenge.
Correct, having jsut seen it again, it was indeed horrible.
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AND a proactive substitution! Weimann on! This is brilliant.
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Wow! Hutton is up. Not sure if this is good or bad news
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Wow a good substitution for a change.
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Positive sub fucking hell.
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Hutton's ok, his foot was off the ground so it'll just be bruising, planted foot and that's a leg breaker.
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Hutton lucky if he's not seriously injured.
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That was bad, just seen the replay. He can't play on after that
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Two good substitutions by McL although I might have got Clark into CB and brought on another CMF.
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Collins gatecrashing the game.
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Whatever the ban for the red, Rose should also be given an extra match for not leaving the pitch straight away. He knew exactly what he'd done. Disgusting, leg-breaker of a tackle.
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Hope he's not as badly injured as he might be.
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Collins on for Hutton, lets see what happens.
Will we defend or go for it?
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Shame because for once Hutton was having a good game.
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Shame for Hutton, I thought he'd been decent so far.
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Hutton and Heskey off and Spurs down to 10 men?
What a 5 minutes this is.
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lets just get stuck in and stuff it up em, they don't like it up em...
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did mctwat give spuds half time team talk?
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Bloody hell. Spurs are good on the counter.
Come on, Villa!
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Still giving the ball away too much.
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Wow! Hutton is up. Not sure if this is good or bad news
Wrong. But very funny.
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Why can't we just pass it to our own players?
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Would not have taken Emile off, he was holding it up for us and allowing us to get forward
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We need to be clever with the ball now.
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Keep the ball Villa, we have an extra man.
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Keep the ball Villa, we have an extra man.
Not a chance.
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Man City 2 up.
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Who has the extra man?
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Penalty
Stupid tackle Dunne.
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Dunn you stupid ******
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Dunne. Why the FUCK have you done that?!?!?!
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Bollocks
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Arse
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fuck off dunney
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Here we go.
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Dunne you fat twat.
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Stupid fucking Dunne
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Silly challenge!
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Do we have the stupidest defenders ever?
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WTF!!!! No way was that a penalty.
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CRAP!!!
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Fuck
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Fuckity fuck
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FFS. FUCK!!!!
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Bollocks.
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shit
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It was a nailed on pen, and we have ourselves to blame.
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I don't think we have an extra man actually, Spurs have one less.
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WTF!!!! No way was that a penalty.
I think it was.
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We'll lose now, we're fucking sitting back again.
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Fucking Hell!!
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BOLLOCKS
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Bloody needless and unnecessary, from a seasoned professional.
Let's pile the pressure on ourselves; twat.
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Second look he might of got a bit of the ball first
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How can it be a penalty when you kick the ball first?
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Never underestimate the ability for Villa to fuck shit up.
Stupid c***s.
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McLeish's tactic really are killing our team.
Hopefully our youngsters will lead us through because lord knows those ****** Dunne and Collins won't.
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Dunn should have known better than to go in for that. It was rash and stupid. It could cost us dearly.
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Looks like we're going to do what we do best: nervously defend a narrow lead until it's a defeat.
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Dunne is treading a fine line.
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Come on Stoke put us out of our misery!
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We look like we have not got a fucking clue now. What does this sack of shit say to them at half time?!
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Dunne is treading a fine line.
The only line he should be in is the one for the pie shop
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We've been sitting back all half, when we should be going for it.
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McLeish's tactic really are killing our team.
Don't think McL's tactics had anything to do with the stupidity of the challenge.
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The best we can hope for is a draw because we won't score again.
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What does this sack of shit say to them at half time?!
Whatever it is, Villa need to get an injunction to stop him going in to the dressing room.
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McLeish's tactic really are killing our team.
Don't think McL's tactics had anything to do with the stupidity of the challenge.
Again, like the Bolton game - why are we blaming the manager for player's stupidity?
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Oh no. Weimann looks hurt.
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We're playing ten men Mcleish you moron, get them to attack.
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USAV - we have sat back totally since half time, which is the managers fault. HE should have had us at them second half, but we have come out and look totally disorganised.
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How can it be a penalty when you kick the ball first?
He went through the player, the ref might not see him tough the ball if it was a light touch. Foul or not it was stupid.
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McLeish's tactic really are killing our team.
Don't think McL's tactics had anything to do with the stupidity of the challenge.
Again, like the Bolton game - why are we blaming the manager for player's stupidity?
We're a man up, playing at home and we've dropped back like its the other way around. We're sitting ducks and that is all McLeish's fault.
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We are a complete shambles now. It's sad but you knew it would happen after half time.
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The best we can hope for is a draw because we won't score again.
We only score one per game, anything else fucks the managers stats up...
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11-man Villa bravely backs to the wall. The inevitable Spurs goal will come.
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Just a matter of time now.
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I can't take this
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USAV - we have sat back totally since half time, which is the managers fault. HE should have had us at them second half, but we have come out and look totally disorganised.
I don't disagree we have sat back, but we were under the cosh for large amounts in the first half as well, there has been no shift in tactics that I can see.
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Disgraceful stuff from Villa. Refusing to attack.
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USAV - we have sat back totally since half time, which is the managers fault. HE should have had us at them second half, but we have come out and look totally disorganised.
It's the two substitutions that have caused the disorganisation. The pattern of the game has been similar to the first half.
Not that I think McL has much tactical nous.
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That is gutting to see Weimann come off. Argh.
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Fonz on, Weimann has a bad case of leg knack. Blimey.
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Bolton 2-0
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Great, we might as well bring Heskey back on.
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You wouldn't think we're the ones with 11 men.
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Herd and Clark have been immense so far.
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FFS I thought our luck had turned.
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which team has 10 men FFS
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Delfouneso not instinctive enough for me.
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NEVER thought i'd say this but, c'mon on stoke!
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Tuning in and out whilst revising. Every time I look, Spurs have the fucking ball. Gutted about Weimann.
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Baggies back in it. 2:1.
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We look fucking dire now
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Sadly most of us knew this would happen and know what's coming next.
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We were passing it around a bit in the first half but we're not at all in this half. We just seem jumpy.
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Our players are gravitating back towards the box.
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Against ten men and they’re absolutely bossing us.
I think the player’s confidence is so shot that they’re sacred to try and play possession football.
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Delfouneso not instinctive enough for me.
He's not anything enough.
He's not very quick, he's not very strong and can't hold the ball up, his finishing is, well, he's scored 3 club goals (including for Burnley and Leicester) in 4 years.
He shouldn't be a Villa player anymore.
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Is this how a team in a relegation scrap plays against ten men?
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This half has been truly diabolical.
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Yes. Their confidence is shot to pieces.
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Delfouneso not instinctive enough for me.
He's not anything enough.
He's not very quick, he's not very strong and can't hold the ball up, his finishing is, well, he's scored 3 club goals (including for Burnley and Leicester) in 4 years.
He shouldn't be a Villa player anymore.
I agree - I was just being kind on the youngster.
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shit so close
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Great corner and unlucky Dunney.
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Don't bother going up for the corner.
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One shot on target - and that was a deflection. Terrible.
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Unlucky there.
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So close.
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Yes. Their confidence is shot to pieces.
A lot of that is down to the manager's negativity.
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NEVER thought i'd say this but, c'mon on stoke!
and the Baggies have scored!
Come on Roy...
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its us v qpr now
they are 0-0 and man city away to play
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Delfouneso not instinctive enough for me.
He's not anything enough.
He's not very quick, he's not very strong and can't hold the ball up, his finishing is, well, he's scored 3 club goals (including for Burnley and Leicester) in 4 years.
He shouldn't be a Villa player anymore.
I agree - I was just being kind on the youngster.
He's not really had a chance as such though, has he? I can't remember him having a game for a long time.
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They are so bossing the game. We never look threatening
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The number of bloody corners we concede ....
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We're 10 minutes away from the result we need to secure our Premier league status.
0-0 QPR-Stoke.
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Delfouneso not instinctive enough for me.
He's not anything enough.
He's not very quick, he's not very strong and can't hold the ball up, his finishing is, well, he's scored 3 club goals (including for Burnley and Leicester) in 4 years.
He shouldn't be a Villa player anymore.
I agree - I was just being kind on the youngster.
He's not really had a chance as such though, has he? I can't remember him having a game for a long time.
He's had enough chances to shine, on a number of different stages.
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He's "not being funny" but Ian Taylor thinks WE have ten men.
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Fucking hell this is horrible.
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He's not really had a chance as such though, has he? I can't remember him having a game for a long time.
Why do you think that is? Villa haven't really been hesistant to play younger unproven players over the last couple of seasons, yet even Weiman gets played ahead of Delfouneso.
I think the run of 11 games with only one goal for Burnley pretty much ensured he'll end up on the scrapheap of promising youngsters who never made the step up.
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its us v qpr now
they are 0-0 and man city away to play
Bolton are still behind us.
And will STILL be behind us even if (when) we lose this.
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wigan are behind us as well, aren't they?
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its us v qpr now
they are 0-0 and man city away to play
Bolton are still behind us.
And will STILL be behind us even if (when) we lose this.
And if things stay as they are, QPR will not only need to go and ruin Man City's PL winning party, but do so by 9 clear goals.
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I think they would still be running circles round us with 9 men.
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He's "not being funny" but Ian Taylor thinks WE have ten men.
This can only be good news. People working for or at the club denouncing McLeish's tactics means only one thing, the ginger knobhead is on his way out of the club. :)
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please please please let me wake up and realise this season has just been a bad nightmare, I really am at the end of my tether with us now
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This is fuckin agony.
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Fuck if N'Zog goes off it will be 10 v 10
Edit: he stayed on
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I think they would still be running circles round us with 9 men.
What about if we gave them N'Zogbia.
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There's gonna be loads of stoppage time as well.
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Bollocks. QPR score
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QPR winning.
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worst thing is, there's 7 until 90 and then at least the same again as injury time.
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Shite QPR score.
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Adebayor, you look like a twat.
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QPR score!
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FFS! Come on Villa!
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Oh.SHIT
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It just sums up the season - this is horrific.
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Come on Villa - hang on!
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Bolton and QPR winning.
We're being taught a lesson at home against 10 men.
I really hope to god the crowd goes mental at McLeish during the end of this game.
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A point would be the best we can hope for.
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McLeish should yet again be sacked for this second half display.
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At least Norwich have nothing to play for next week...
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This is utterly fucking excruciating.
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Baggies score
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QPR winning, Bolton winning,
Villa comprehensively being outplayed by 10 men
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QPR have scored.
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WBA 2-2
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If I was there I would stay back and drown the manager in shit.
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they get a corner, our furthest player forward was nzogbia at about 2yards outside the box, there's 10 of them for fuck sake, at least make a show of trying to win the fucking thing.
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Baggies score and level. Having to rely on the bloody Baggies.
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Yes. Baggies score. *Vomit*
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The QPR score terrifies me. Oh wait, thank Fuck West Brom score.
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I want to see us win this but all I see is a draw at best.
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qpr scored
they are on 37 pts now
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WBA level with Bolton, that should see us safe.
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It's still in our hands. QPR still need to win at Man City to avoid being sucked in by Bolton or Blackburn. It's still 2 from those 3 in my opinion. We are massively lucky that QPR and Blackburn have nasty last games away from home. It will save us.
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McLeish should yet again be sacked for this second half display.
Yep it's been fucking embarrassing, we have been hammered.
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Think that as it stands QPR would need to win and increase goal difference by 9 goals and Villa lose last match to get us relegated
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Are we be safe if we draw?
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Some of our players have the gentle touch of rapists
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Warnock has been beyond gash in the second half. Totally useless.
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Think that as it stands QPR would need to win and increase goal difference by 9 goals and Villa lose last match to get us relegated
Spoke too soon
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Are we be safe if we draw?
If the score stays the same at Bolton, yes.
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Are we be safe if we draw?
Very uncomfortably, but 99.9% yes
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No we're not.
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Ireland just dummied himself.
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Ireland Messi moment.
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Bolton drawing.
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McLeish should yet again be sacked for this second half display.
Yep it's been fucking embarrassing, we have been hammered.
Fuck off we have - battling performance today.
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No we're not.
Edit: My mistake, I thought the BBC table was before the goal update, it wasn't.
Re-edit, it was, we're safe as scores stand.
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Baggies equalise!!
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Stephen Ireland's brain is 2 steps ahead of the rest of our players. He would have been so useful alongside Ash.
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N'Zogbia you utter, utter waster
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Wank Nzog!1
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McLeish should yet again be sacked for this second half display.
Yep it's been fucking embarrassing, we have been hammered.
Fuck off we have - battling performance today.
First half was battling, 2nd half has been embarassing, fuck all ambition to do anything but not lose.
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I feel sick.
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NZogbia has been about as bad as any individual display all season.
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N'Zogbia should never play for this club again. Worst player we've ever bought.
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Full Time at QPR. They win 1-0
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We need to keep this fucking point...
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This corner will kill us
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Come on boys hold on...
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ARE SPURS AT HOME??? JESUS CHRIST THIS MANAGER NEEDS SACKING TONIGHT - AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
china has blocked the mcleish out day stuff and headed for commercials. ICS name of channel.
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2 Mins to save the season
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Heart attack Sunday, this.
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Shows the quality gap when Spurs down to 10 men are all over us. If we hang on we are safe.
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Is it coming boys?
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Shitting it now...
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ARE SPURS AT HOME??? JESUS CHRIST THIS MANAGER NEEDS SACKING TONIGHT - AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
china has blocked the mcleish out day stuff and headed for commercials. ICS name of channel.
Do you really think the manager is a disgrace because the quality of Spurs are so much better?
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full time at Bolton. 1 min for us to not fuck it up.
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Take your time and pass to a claret shirt...
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Right, we're safe. Bolton can't catch us now
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At least Bolton didn't win
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Baggies Drew.
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KEEP THE FUCKING BALL.
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Safe...
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WE STAY UP!
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We are safe.
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We stay up. Please no more of this bellend next year.
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That's it lads. We're safe. It's been an utterly shit ride, but we've crawled over the line.
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Oh my god. That was brutal.
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Crucial point. Well played lads.
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Thank god for that.....
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That should be enough, Bolton need a 17 goal swing to over take us...
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The fact that we were in that position to start with should be the first thing that Lerner adresses.
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Bring on the McLeish out protest! :)
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We have the Baggies to thank. Paul Merson on Sky said before the game that their players would not try with Woy leaving. Thank God he was wrong and Villa are safe. Interesting summer ahead...
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When i sold on my shares (albeit as a complete takeover meant i had to) I thought It was going to be a safe pair of hands. Didn't we all?.
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And breathe.
'kin hell, thanks for the company one and all. Up the Villa.
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ARE SPURS AT HOME??? JESUS CHRIST THIS MANAGER NEEDS SACKING TONIGHT - AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
china has blocked the mcleish out day stuff and headed for commercials. ICS name of channel.
Do you really think the manager is a disgrace because the quality of Spurs are so much better?
final home match - a game at Villa Park that is always special, no matter what. AND i have been to a fair few down the years and even been on the pitch for a a couple , Chelsea 1991 springs to mind. ... SO YES Toronto Villain I do think it is a disgrace for a Villa team to play like that today. GARBAGE. SACK THE MANAGER.
If you disagree that today was a disgraceful performance then you are not a true Villa supporter.
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ARE SPURS AT HOME??? JESUS CHRIST THIS MANAGER NEEDS SACKING TONIGHT - AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
china has blocked the mcleish out day stuff and headed for commercials. ICS name of channel.
Do you really think the manager is a disgrace because the quality of Spurs are so much better?
final home match - a game at Villa Park that is always special, no matter what. AND i have been to a fair few down the years and even been on the pitch for a a couple , Chelsea 1991 springs to mind. ... SO YES Toronto Villain I do think it is a disgrace for a Villa team to play like that today. GARBAGE. SACK THE MANAGER.
If you disagree that today was a disgraceful performance then you are not a true Villa supporter.
How else do you expect McLeish to respond to half his team decimated in injuries, a far superior Spurs side and relegation staring us in the face. Not to mention yet another Dunne f***up?
And keep yer "true supporter" bollocks off this site.
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Interesting to see if McLeish does go before the final game now that we are safe. Considering how much pissing about went on last summer they need as much time as possible i'd say.
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ARE SPURS AT HOME??? JESUS CHRIST THIS MANAGER NEEDS SACKING TONIGHT - AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
china has blocked the mcleish out day stuff and headed for commercials. ICS name of channel.
Do you really think the manager is a disgrace because the quality of Spurs are so much better?
final home match - a game at Villa Park that is always special, no matter what. AND i have been to a fair few down the years and even been on the pitch for a a couple , Chelsea 1991 springs to mind. ... SO YES Toronto Villain I do think it is a disgrace for a Villa team to play like that today. GARBAGE. SACK THE MANAGER.
If you disagree that today was a disgraceful performance then you are not a true Villa supporter.
How else do you expect McLeish to respond to half his team decimated in injuries, a far superior Spurs side and relegation staring us in the face. Not to mention yet another Dunne f***up?
And keep yer "true supporter" bollocks off this site.
Well said.
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How else do you expect McLeish to respond to half his team decimated in injuries, a far superior Spurs side and relegation staring us in the face. Not to mention yet another Dunne f***up?
Err ... by organising the eleven professional footballers he did have available into something resembling a team?
And keep yer "true supporter" bollocks off this site.
Well said.
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Thought CN'Z was pretty awful today.
Don't know about Spurs playing with 10 men for 35mins or so, we played with 10 men for the whole game!!