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Title: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Legion on April 22, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
“Villa have been a great club, are still a great club, and always will be a great club.” - Frederick Rinder, 1936.

Anyone who says otherwise can fuck off.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: damon loves JT on April 22, 2012, 10:31:31 AM
I had to have words with an Everton-supporting friend yesterday on this topic.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 22, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
In the original song, we didn't sing 'team', it was just 'we're by far the greatest, the world's ever seen.'
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Ad@m on April 22, 2012, 10:35:00 AM
In the original song, we didn't sing 'team', it was just 'we're by far the greatest, the world's ever seen.'

But that doesn't even rhyme!
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: andrew08 on April 22, 2012, 10:36:37 AM
“Villa have been a great club, are still a great club, and always will be a great club.” - Frederick Rinder, 1936.

Anyone who says otherwise can fuck off.

Is the correct answer.......but only in the same way that parents can criticise their own children and no one else can.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Mazrim on April 22, 2012, 10:40:47 AM
Well said Legion.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Stu on April 22, 2012, 10:41:12 AM
“Villa have been a great club, are still a great club, and always will be a great club.” - Frederick Rinder, 1936.

Anyone who says otherwise can fuck off.

Good man, Lee.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Mazrim on April 22, 2012, 10:42:51 AM
In the original song, we didn't sing 'team', it was just 'we're by far the greatest, the world's ever seen.'

But that doesn't even rhyme!

"F.C" rhymes with "seen".
Also, it scans better. Team always felt crammed in and annoys me.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: damon loves JT on April 22, 2012, 10:44:30 AM
Watford fans used to sing `Watford FC...Watford FC OK'. I was so embarrassed for them.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Rico on April 22, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
Yep. We are by far the greatest......the world has ever seen!"

I used to prefer it when we sang it like that. It sounded better, and was unique. All the other teams seemed to add the word "team" to it. We were different! Lets get back to being unique!

UTV
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 22, 2012, 10:59:13 AM
Well said we are a great club always will be
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 22, 2012, 11:01:24 AM
We'll always be a great club.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 22, 2012, 11:04:14 AM
In the original song, we didn't sing 'team', it was just 'we're by far the greatest, the world's ever seen.'

But that doesn't even rhyme!

And it's Aston Villa, Aston Villa FC
We're by far the greatest the world's ever seen.

Listen for it on the 71 LCF record / video.

I never thought about rhyming but 'team' doesn't rhyme with 'seen' either.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Ad@m on April 22, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
I never thought about rhyming but 'team' doesn't rhyme with 'seen' either.

Behave - it's not far off!  We're talking about football fans here, not the Poet Laureate!
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Brian Taylor on April 22, 2012, 11:15:32 AM
“Villa have been a great club, are still a great club, and always will be a great club.” - Frederick Rinder, 1936.

Anyone who says otherwise can fuck off.

Quote is from a bit before my time but has held true for several decades now and will remain so for several more, I hope, before they see me out!
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Mazrim on April 22, 2012, 11:39:35 AM
Team isnt supposed to rhyme with seen anyway.
There are 4 lines and lines 2 and 4 should naturally rhyme.
Therefore, F.C and seen are the only words needed to rhyme and they do.

Team is at best unecessary.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: itbrvilla on April 22, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
I had to have words with an Everton-supporting friend yesterday on this topic.
friend you say?!  Hope you kneed him in the bollocks.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: olaftab on April 22, 2012, 11:44:40 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS we are

SO FUCK ALL THE REST
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: damon loves JT on April 22, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
I had to have words with an Everton-supporting friend yesterday on this topic.
friend you say?!  Hope you kneed him in the bollocks.

And to think, when his team lost the semi-final in the 87th minute, I kept an almost completely straight face.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: darren woolley on April 22, 2012, 11:49:40 AM
Well said we are a great club always will be

This.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: cdward on April 22, 2012, 12:00:59 PM
We'll keep the lions flag flying high, 'cause Aston Villa will never die.

Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 22, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
I had to have words with an Everton-supporting friend yesterday on this topic.
friend you say?!  Hope you kneed him in the bollocks.

It's been said before, but while we tend to have a lot of respect for Everton, the feeling is rarely reciprocated. In fact, for a team who claim to know so much about their 'istory, they seem very ignorant of everyone else's.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 22, 2012, 01:19:09 PM
I had to have words with an Everton-supporting friend yesterday on this topic.
friend you say?!  Hope you kneed him in the bollocks.

It's been said before, but while we tend to have a lot of respect for Everton, the feeling is rarely reciprocated. In fact, for a team who claim to know so much about their 'istory, they seem very ignorant of everyone else's.

Most of them that i've ever met or had contact with seem to have a real chip on their shoulder about us.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 22, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
I had to have words with an Everton-supporting friend yesterday on this topic.
friend you say?!  Hope you kneed him in the bollocks.

It's been said before, but while we tend to have a lot of respect for Everton, the feeling is rarely reciprocated. In fact, for a team who claim to know so much about their 'istory, they seem very ignorant of everyone else's.

Most of them that i've ever met or had contact with seem to have a real chip on their shoulder about us.

Ifirradernerbeenfereysel.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: UK Redsox on April 22, 2012, 01:23:27 PM
It's been said before, but while we tend to have a lot of respect for Everton, the feeling is rarely reciprocated. In fact, for a team who claim to know so much about their 'istory, they seem very ignorant of everyone else's.

Maybe its because we're the first team in our** city and they're the second team in theirs.


(** I know that Birmingham isn't technically "my" city, but I haven't got one, so I'm claiming this one)
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: alanclare on April 22, 2012, 01:37:10 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 22, 2012, 01:39:15 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.

And if all you can do after your absence is abuse another poster, don't bother coming back.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: alanclare on April 22, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.

Oh dear! You too?

And if all you can do after your absence is abuse another poster, don't bother coming back.

Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: damon loves JT on April 22, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
alan, you're making a tit of yourself. And not just because you can't get the hang of the quotes thing.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: rutski on April 22, 2012, 01:53:03 PM
a couple of sayings this season have stuck in my mind.
my pals 7 year old was asking what the material the badge on his shirt was made from, his dad said pure gold son, pure gold! and his boy smiled knowingly. the other goes from someone on here came up with a great analogy with their mother when they were slightly troublesome teenager finding their way in life, the mum said 'Son, i will always love you, but at this moment i dont like you very much!
these 'nuggets' about our club and us being, in my eyes, the greatest, the world has ever seen! are my sentiments exactly!
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Stu on April 22, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.

If you'd bothered to log on before today, you might understand the context in which this thread was posted. Amidst all the whinging and moaning (some of it justified), this thread is a reminder of why we all still bother. Wind your neck in.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: alanclare on April 22, 2012, 02:09:54 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.

If you'd bothered to log on before today, you might understand the context in which this thread was posted. Amidst all the whinging and moaning (some of it justified), this thread is a reminder of why we all still bother. Wind your neck in.

(Just to show that I really do understand the quotes thing):

Surely, even obsessives such as yourself, must admit that " by far the greatest team the world have ever seen" is just a mite excessive?
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 22, 2012, 02:11:09 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.

If you'd bothered to log on before today, you might understand the context in which this thread was posted. Amidst all the whinging and moaning (some of it justified), this thread is a reminder of why we all still bother. Wind your neck in.

(Just to show that I really do understand the quotes thing):

Surely, even obsessives such as yourself, must admit that " by far the greatest team the world have ever seen" is just a mite excessive?


If you intend to post anymore an apology is called for.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: damon loves JT on April 22, 2012, 02:13:07 PM
It's hyperbole, Alan, being used deliberately to make a point:  that the criticism of the club has reached similar levels of exaggeration.

If you're going to have a go at somebody, don't pick on Legion, for goodness' sake.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Bad English on April 22, 2012, 02:15:28 PM
Look, I have slept in the same bed as Legion and I won't have it!
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 22, 2012, 02:15:40 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.

If you'd bothered to log on before today, you might understand the context in which this thread was posted. Amidst all the whinging and moaning (some of it justified), this thread is a reminder of why we all still bother. Wind your neck in.

(Just to show that I really do understand the quotes thing):

Surely, even obsessives such as yourself, must admit that " by far the greatest team the world have ever seen" is just a mite excessive?


Are all football songs meant to be taken literally? Did anyone ever walk any distance to rub Trevor's face in the brown stuff? Is Birmingham really full of breasts, vaginas and Villa? Did Gary Shaw really score every time he hit the ball?
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: damon loves JT on April 22, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
Look, I have slept in the same bed as Legion and I won't have it!

He's invited me to his funeral.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: alanclare on April 22, 2012, 03:05:00 PM
Look, I have slept in the same bed as Legion and I won't have it!

If you've slept with Legion you've probably got it.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Bad English on April 22, 2012, 03:15:17 PM
It wasn't the greatest I've ever seen.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Bad English on April 22, 2012, 03:16:15 PM
Look, I have slept in the same bed as Legion and I won't have it!

He's invited me to his funeral.
I think I have slept in your bed too. Your dad made me.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: joe_c on April 22, 2012, 03:25:16 PM
Look, I have slept in the same bed as Legion and I won't have it!


If you've slept with Legion you've probably got it.

Any chance of the requested apology Alan?
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: alanclare on April 22, 2012, 03:26:44 PM
Look, I have slept in the same bed as Legion and I won't have it!


If you've slept with Legion you've probably got it.

Any chance of the requested apology Alan?

Of course not!
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: damon loves JT on April 22, 2012, 03:28:43 PM
Don't be a plonker alan.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Tucson Villain on April 22, 2012, 03:59:42 PM
“Villa have been a great club, are still a great club, and always will be a great club.” - Frederick Rinder, 1936.

Anyone who says otherwise can fuck off.

Nice one Legion.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 22, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
Quote
In the original song, we didn't sing 'team', it was just 'we're by far the greatest, the world's ever seen

and it was a much better version, in my opinion - still heard on the Holte up to the the mid-80s

scans much better and is more faithful to the Wild Rover original.

Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 22, 2012, 04:52:00 PM
"Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk,

Whats with the having a pop at peoples nicknames ? As you seem to want to be deliberately provocative perhaps changing the E to a K at the end of your name would be apt?
And no I dont mean the lanky git who played for Leeds which was Allan.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Bad English on April 22, 2012, 05:01:01 PM
Have a listen to the Holte End here (http://www.bad-english.info/archive/2006_01_01_old.html)


Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Fergal on April 22, 2012, 06:24:48 PM
Team isnt supposed to rhyme with seen anyway.
There are 4 lines and lines 2 and 4 should naturally rhyme.
Therefore, F.C and seen are the only words needed to rhyme and they do.

Team is at best unecessary.
Indeed, we are the greatest anything anyone has ever seen.  Anyone saying any different can fuck off.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Bernie on April 24, 2012, 11:43:56 AM
Quote
In the original song, we didn't sing 'team', it was just 'we're by far the greatest, the world's ever seen

and it was a much better version, in my opinion - still heard on the Holte up to the the mid-80s

scans much better and is more faithful to the Wild Rover original.


Not least as other teams' fans tended to include "team"
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: danlanza on April 24, 2012, 11:47:37 AM
Team isnt supposed to rhyme with seen anyway.
There are 4 lines and lines 2 and 4 should naturally rhyme.
Therefore, F.C and seen are the only words needed to rhyme and they do.

Team is at best unecessary.
Indeed, we are the greatest anything anyone has ever seen.  Anyone saying any different can fuck off.
Absofuckinlutely Fergal!
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: not3bad on April 24, 2012, 12:31:26 PM
I've just come back from a fairish absence to this forum to see what the Villa supporters are saying, either in constructive criticism of this once-great Club or in the desperate pathetic "We are the Greatest" crap that the unthinking always drone when the pendulum has swung in a, to them, adverse direction. "Legion" or "Lee" or whatever pseudonym under which he wishes to lurk, always, I recall, comes out with this sort of junk at the slightest opportunity. And here it is again.

If you'd bothered to log on before today, you might understand the context in which this thread was posted. Amidst all the whinging and moaning (some of it justified), this thread is a reminder of why we all still bother. Wind your neck in.

(Just to show that I really do understand the quotes thing):

Surely, even obsessives such as yourself, must admit that " by far the greatest team the world have ever seen" is just a mite excessive?


When you support a team it is traditional to claim that they are the greatest isn't it? 
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Rioch is King on April 24, 2012, 12:46:53 PM
I've thought about this many times and i actually think Aston Villa FC are the greatest team the world has ever seen... maybe not 'by far' - but by some way
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: flybo on April 24, 2012, 01:06:17 PM
I've thought about this many times and i actually think Aston Villa FC are the greatest team the world has ever seen... maybe not 'by far' - but by some way
Is the right answer
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: alanclare on October 10, 2013, 08:12:22 PM
In this thread, "We're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen" in April of last year, I was guilty of posting the most unnecessarily offensive, crass contributions that that have been my shame to have just re-read. Amongst other things, I insulted some of the most respected senior members of this fraternity. They, quite rightly asked that I be barred from the site and, of course, from making further contributions .

I have nothing to say in mitigation, but I am grateful for this opportunity (a) to apologise to those I insulted - I am most sincerely sorry, and (b) to express my gratitude at being permitted to once more enjoy the correspondence contained in these pages. I hope that it goes without saying that in future I shall be exemplary in my observation of the site rules.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: LeeB on October 10, 2013, 08:15:48 PM
Respect.
Title: Re: We're by far the greatest team the world have ever seen
Post by: Legion on October 10, 2013, 08:38:03 PM
In this thread, "We're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen" in April of last year, I was guilty of posting the most unnecessarily offensive, crass contributions that that have been my shame to have just re-read. Amongst other things, I insulted some of the most respected senior members of this fraternity. They, quite rightly asked that I be barred from the site and, of course, from making further contributions .

I have nothing to say in mitigation, but I am grateful for this opportunity (a) to apologise to those I insulted - I am most sincerely sorry, and (b) to express my gratitude at being permitted to once more enjoy the correspondence contained in these pages. I hope that it goes without saying that in future I shall be exemplary in my observation of the site rules.


Thank you, Alan.
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