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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: ROBBO on April 20, 2012, 03:55:51 AM

Title: No more heroes
Post by: ROBBO on April 20, 2012, 03:55:51 AM
When Ashley Young cheated against his old club, then wildly celebrated the converted penalty, i got to thinking about the young kids who wore his number for the years he was at Villa and must have been disallusioned to see their once hero disrespecting his old club so blatently.
Where are the true heroes in modern football, i don't neccessarily mean the best players, Johny Dixon was never a brilliant player but he was a fantastic club man and a hero to me in my childhood and there were a few more i could mention. In modern football where players are constantly changing clubs are the kids missing out? how far do we go back to find the last true Villa hero?
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Hillbilly on April 20, 2012, 05:15:45 AM
Ian Taylor for me. There have been later players such as Mellberg and Laursen with an affinity but none with the connection to the club and the fans.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Legion on April 20, 2012, 06:56:44 AM
I echo the post by Hillbilly.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: villanic on April 20, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Ian Taylor for me. There have been later players such as Mellberg and Laursen with an affinity but none with the connection to the club and the fans.

Yeah, it would be Ian Taylor for me.

Plus he grew up on the same road as me and went to school with my brother. Now that's a claim to fame! ;)
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: nigel on April 20, 2012, 08:47:23 AM
Ian Taylor for me. There have been later players such as Mellberg and Laursen with an affinity but none with the connection to the club and the fans.
Ian Taylor, without a shadow of doubt. Think you could add Cowans and Little to that list for me.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 20, 2012, 08:51:12 AM
David Unsworth.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: SteveN on April 20, 2012, 08:52:46 AM
Vic Crowe, never the greatest of players but a true Villa man who always gave the proverbial 100%.

And another for the teenagers - John Slogger Sleeuwenhoek.

Of later generations another vote for Ian Taylor.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: philthebar on April 20, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
How about adding Charlie Aitken to the list.

Modern day, has to be Taylor
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: nigel on April 20, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
How about adding Charlie Aitken to the list.

Modern day, has to be Taylor
Shame on me, I forgot about Charlie.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 20, 2012, 10:25:19 AM
I don't think you have to be born a Villa man to have a love and affinity for th club... see Sid, Brian Little and, as the OP says, Johnny Dixon for examples. I'd go with Mellberg and Laursen.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: ROBBO on April 20, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
The pity of it is in the years we have to go back to find one.The total lack of respect that Young showed angered me no end. I have criticised Stan P but i think if he had come to the club earlier he could have been one,always played as if he cared.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
I always thought of Lew Chatterly as a real Villa man. Brummie born, he left in 1971 so his playing time unfortunately coincided with the big decline and two relegations. He was still the top scorer in 66/67, but his 13 goals were not enough. He has since done the rounds playing and coaching on the south coast and in the south west, and was very much McMenemys right hand man. But I bet to this day the Villa is one of the first results he looks for.

(http://cards.littleoak.com.au/196566_typhoo_premium/Aston%20Villa.jpg)

Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: pooligan on April 20, 2012, 01:17:09 PM
Yeah ,agree with Lew Chatterley.Charlie Aitken,Ian Taylor and Johnny Dixon. I would add Allan Evans to  that list
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
It's scary how many of these I remember as young men are now getting on. Heroes shouldn't be allowed to grow old.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: garyshawsknee on April 20, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
I follow Peter Withe on twitter,and he's posted some great pictures of the 25 year re-union. There's a great photo of the team together,and my first hero Gary Shaw looks a big fella nowadays. In my mind he's only a phone call away from an England call up.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: VILLA MOLE on April 20, 2012, 01:27:42 PM
I always thought of Lew Chatterly as a real Villa man. Brummie born, he left in 1971 so his playing time unfortunately coincided with the big decline and two relegations. He was still the top scorer in 66/67, but his 13 goals were not enough. He has since done the rounds playing and coaching on the south coast and in the south west, and was very much McMenemys right hand man. But I bet to this day the Villa is one of the first results he looks for.

(http://cards.littleoak.com.au/196566_typhoo_premium/Aston%20Villa.jpg)


great proper traditional kit please note our new italian designers 
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
It's scary how many of these I remember as young men are now getting on. Heroes shouldn't be allowed to grow old.

I found it scary when I first heard the name Tom Hateley mentioned on the radio playing for Motherwell. First case for me of grandchildren of players I have watched now turning professional.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 20, 2012, 02:02:11 PM
Lew Chatterley's nephew posted on here a few times, a good few years ago.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: SteveN on April 20, 2012, 02:17:34 PM
I always thought of Lew Chatterly as a real Villa man. Brummie born, he left in 1971 so his playing time unfortunately coincided with the big decline and two relegations. He was still the top scorer in 66/67, but his 13 goals were not enough. He has since done the rounds playing and coaching on the south coast and in the south west, and was very much McMenemys right hand man. But I bet to this day the Villa is one of the first results he looks for.

(http://cards.littleoak.com.au/196566_typhoo_premium/Aston%20Villa.jpg)


great proper traditional kit please note our new italian designers 

I'm not strong on links but I hope this works.  Seeing this picture I was reminded of a site with some good Villa reelated photos including this one of Colin Withers.

Now that's what I call a training kit, Macron please note.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47036391@N00/4593222914/in/photostream/


Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2012, 02:18:58 PM
I'm not strong on links but I hope this works.  Seeing this picture I was reminded of a site with some good Villa reelated photos including this one of Colin Withers.

Now that's what I call a training kit, Macron please note.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47036391@N00/4593222914/in/photostream/




...Colin is modelling the Kiraly collection from Macron....
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on April 20, 2012, 02:55:27 PM
My favourite kit (long sleeve preferred), and probably the last time we went for six or so years without modifying much beyond the socks. Though having said that I think 66-67 saw us wear blue shorts at home.

I queued up at VP to catch them after training to get that Typhoo photo signed, but it took so long to get the damn thing that Hateley had left. Sob.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: darren woolley on April 20, 2012, 03:38:08 PM
Ian Taylor for me. There have been later players such as Mellberg and Laursen with an affinity but none with the connection to the club and the fans.

This.
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2012, 03:40:42 PM
I'm not strong on links but I hope this works.  Seeing this picture I was reminded of a site with some good Villa reelated photos including this one of Colin Withers.

Now that's what I call a training kit, Macron please note.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47036391@N00/4593222914/in/photostream/




Thers some great pics in that set I haven't seen before.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/47036391@N00/tags/astonvilla/
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: The Left Side on April 20, 2012, 04:48:29 PM
Tayls for me, I have his shirt framed at home above our future baby's bed!
Title: Re: No more heroes
Post by: Ron Manager on May 01, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
Fred Turnbull to me was a real Villa man. he was a consistent influence in our defence during the late sixties and early seventies and still at the age of 65 calls the Villa...we... while one or two of our ex players use the word ..they.. which I hate.

If anyones interested Fred runs a pub in West Monkseaton and is in good health. No McGrath or Barson Fred but proud to have have played for the Villa.
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