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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on April 07, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
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0-0
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Could really do with a win for breathing space, but can't help feeling that McDicksplash will set us up for a draw.
Agree with Lee above
0-0.
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going to go for a tight 1-0 villa win! Gabby is due a goal
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Us 2 Them 1 Gabby, Weimann; Shawcross.
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The worst team to play after a two day break is these animals who are all fitness and zero skill. Will take a draw.
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0-0 written all over it. Dog's dinner of a match coming up.
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The worst team to play after a two day break is these animals who are all fitness and zero skill. Will take a draw.
I'm hoping that Wolves desperate plight will cause them to kick a few of them up in the air.
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That would be nice. Start with that scrotum Pennant.
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The worst team to play after a two day break is these animals who are all fitness and zero skill. Will take a draw.
I'm hoping that Wolves desperate plight will cause them to kick a few of them up in the air.
I wonder what Kevin Muscat is up to these days?
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If Stoke beat Wolves they are safe, in that case having reached Pulis's aim they may be beatable. If so we may get 3 points and 37 should be enough after the results today, but that is still no credit to the Eck person.
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This is where shackles come off and McLeish shows why he was the best coach in ...errr...in Scotland! 4-0 to us.
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I'm going to be pretty outragous with a 3-2 Villa win.
They'll put us under pressure with long ball, long throws etc, so I can't see a clean sheet (Crouchy to grab their 2) We've our own long throw now so I think we can return the favour. Gabby, Lichaj and Albrighton
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If #wwfc can score against them we defiantly can! 3-0 to villa!
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After todays hard fought draw I`m going for another one
1-1
we`ll draw our way to safety
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Law of averages, we are due another home win given our home record over the season. 1-0 or 2-1 to us and it will be nervy and certainly not pretty. God knows who will score for us, let's face it, it doesn't matter.
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The worst team to play after a two day break is these animals who are all fitness and zero skill. Will take a draw.
I'm hoping that Wolves desperate plight will cause them to kick a few of them up in the air.
I wonder what Kevin Muscat is up to these days?
Probably kicking some player up in the air.
2 - 0 Villa and Gabby both goals.
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Tony Pulis looks and talks like a low-ranking member of a criminal gang. I can imagine him picking up illegal immigrants in a rusty van and selling them.
1-1
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1-0 to us with Gabby scoring at last.
If you want entertainment on Monday night however, Villa Park won't be the place to go. This game will be dire.
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This game has draw written all over it.
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Think we'll struggle against their constant aerial bombardment. What will really put us under pressure is the way Jermaine Pennant touches the ball with his hand before he takes a corner/free kick. We'll get one from a Lichaj long throw and Tiny Penis will complain we play anti-football. Sadly 2-1 to them
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One for the purists,1-1,another point closer to safety.
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I think Collins has been superb for us over the last month or so and expect him to get his head onto everything. Still, 0-0.
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It's not going to be pretty, anyone taking a young child for their 1st game should take safety goggles covered in cardboard to save them from the worst of it!
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I think Collins has been superb for us over the last month or so and expect him to get his head onto everything. Still, 0-0.
With Dunne being injured he's probably not getting pist up after training as much
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Their poor away from home and hopefully our kids take heart from a battling performance today and push on! 2-1 scrappy win!
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Think we'll struggle against them. I just think they'll bully us and we'll be tired after today (Stoke are playing later so have less recovery time but they're all about big strong ox's that run all day so I think they'll be better prepared than us on that front). I don't know if that will translate to a draw or a defeat though as we do seem a little more willing to fight it out than we had been.
I clicked a stoke win when I voted but I'm actually angling more towards a 1-1 draw, with us taking an early lead again (after 25-30mins) and then getting bullied for an hour before conceding late and then holding on.
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3-1 villa. Open game. Heskey hat trick.
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1-2 to them unfortunately.
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I think heskey got his last hat trick in 2000. Not looking likely. I'll put the betting slip in the bin now. ;-)
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I predicted a draw at Anfield so I am predicting a win at Villa Park for villa.
2-0. Big performances needed from the senior players, namely Given, Collins and Gabby. Herd also could be a key player for us in the run in.
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think the kids will get a bit mashed in this one. Stoke will target them. 0-2
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will we have any other players back. or should he go with same team as today
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I fear this could be a repeat of the Swansea game, a lot of the players were struggling physically at the end of the game so I really hope the likes of Cuellar and N'zogbia can play in this one to freshen things up a bit. Would start Weimann aswell.
1-1.
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I forgot Albrighton...how come he wasn't involved today?
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1-1 collins and crouch
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Us - Lump the ball to Heskey to flick onto Gabby 0
Them - Lump the ball to Crouch to flick onto Walters 0
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This is the only game of the season I would start the powerhouse anyone else agree?
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Hoping we have one or two players back from injury from this one and if so I fancy us for a scrappy as fuck 2-1 win.
I'll go with Collins and Heskey for us and Crouch for them
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Anyone else hoping we score a few and they all come from long throws?
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2-1 to us. And it wont be like watching Barcelona v Brazil.
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There's definitely a case for fresh legs after just one days rest. Stoke won't pass the ball around us like Swansea did but they could just overpower us. Any news on likely fitness of CNZ, albrighton, weimann?
I imagine bannan, herd might be tired? So:
Given - hutton, Collins, baker / cuellar, warnock - albrighton, Ireland, herd, CNZ - heskey, gabby
Bannan and gardner the alternatives to the two wingers I not fit. Interesting to see if carruthers gets more game time
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Think we'll win this one. Stoke are in no great form of late although have had tough matches. Long season for them, didn't they start in July or something stupid?
The kids energy and fitness to shine through, 2-1.
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Hi first time for years im paying on the day. Which ticket office is open? Thanks..
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Hi first time for years im paying on the day. Which ticket office is open? Thanks..
Most probably all of them.
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Wasnt after sarcasm my point being normally get down the ground and straight in.
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It wasn't sarcasm. You'll probably find all ticket offices open.
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I'd probably start with Heskey against Stoke, and N'Zog instead of Bannan if fit.Apart from that , probably the same starting line up.We have'nt really got anyone to play on the left.Maybe Albrighton, but Stoke probably is'nt the team to play him against.
Their LB is very poor though, so maybe put N'zog there, and GG on the right.
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After last season's encounter, I shall be avoiding this one like the plague.
Narrow 1-0 home win, I reckon.
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I've just gone a bit peculiar and stuck a few quid on 1-0 to us.
Also had a punt on Warnock or Lichaj to score first.
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Another draw nearer safety. 0-0.
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Stoke struggled against Kightly on the flank at times yesterday so that's something we could look at.
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If I were a neutral, this would be a fixture so uninspiring I'd run a mile. Voted draw but hopeful of a win. Much will depend on how we defend corners, if Collins & Baker can stand firm we shouldn't have a problem but if we do our usual chaotic marking routine we'll need a couple of goals to get something.
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1-1 Ireland scoring for us.
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1-0 win.
Header from a Lichaj throw and Pulis to moan about it
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After last season's encounter, I shall be avoiding this one like the plague.
Yes - time wasting just a few minutes into the second half. Stoke were truly horrific that day and I see no great change from them - That's why I reckon a draw on Monday.
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Not sure this will be one for the connoiseurs.
If Eric Lichaj can OutDelap Rory Delap, we may just have a chance.
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A thorn in our side, who have sadly started playing more open football whereas we have taken their defensive mantle.
Feel that the pressure will be off a little after the 'pool result and other results going our way, so would pluck for 2-1 (we can't keep a clean sheet). Whatever the score is though, it won't be pretty.
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I reckon it'll be a 1-1 draw. Gabby to get our goal.
Rubbish kick off time seems it's not on the
Box.
I ain't looking forward to this one can see it being a dog of a game.
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Is this one on TV?
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I don't think so.
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Is this one on TV?
No.
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Is this one on TV?
No, it has to kick off late because Stoke where the late game on Saturday and they have to have 48 hrs between games.
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Is this one on TV?
Good god I doubt it.
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Is this one on TV?
No. It would probably get lower viewing figures than the Parliament Channel showing live coverage of a select committee meeting on Welsh affairs.
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Trying to figure out a bet to put on this but for the life of me I can't pick between 0-0 and 1-1.
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I can feel a big win coming tomorrow Stoke have nothing to play for and they are not the best away from home. 4-0 villa gabby to get a hat trick and Weiman to get the other.
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0-0 sounds about right, sub 30,000 and one of the worst PL games in history
& No, I'm not going
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I can feel a big win coming tomorrow Stoke have nothing to play for and they are not the best away from home. 4-0 villa gabby to get a hat trick and Weiman to get the other.
I'm not sure we'll get that many goals in all our remaining home games!
Pulis is saying he'll freshen things up and I think we need to do the same.
Weimann to come in up front, and at least two in midfield from alby, CNZ and Gardner.
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think this game is made for Ireland and Bannan
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First of is Gabby playing, I thought he took a hell of a knock early in the first half yesterday, he was walking around very gingerly for a good few minutes afterwards and although for me he looked a bit listless for 20 or so mins in the second half which I thought was the knock he looked to run it of and came back into the game. Great performance from Gabby.
Stoke, I have always thought you never know what your going to get until they boot of, then you know.
1-1 and another hard earned point, that's based on Gabby playing.
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Gabby should have been taken off after an hour on Saturday. He was really struggling to move as the game progressed due to the knock sustained earlier. However, since Weimann isn't fully fit either and our other star "striker" was already on the field as a midfielder, Gabby had to battle through.
Maybe, Andy could start against Stoke and then Gabby brought on if needed.
Given
Hutton
Baker
Collins
Lihaj
Warnock
Gardner
Herd
Ireland
Bannan
Weimann
Are Marc and Zog likely to be fit ?
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Will N'Zogbia or Cuellar be fit?
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Pulis has admitted they have achieved their goal for the season, survival.
I think they will be on the beach now.
1 - 1
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This one is going to go down in history. In years to come, if you mention 'The Stoke Game', everyone will nod knowingly. As in: 'bloody hell, when our third goal went in I thought it was going to be like The Stoke Game.'
0-0
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Heheheh.
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No doubt this will be a pig of a game to watch, but hopefuly Stoke have switched off now they are safe.
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Carlos and CNZ could be back but albrighton defiantly out.
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Freezing cold, shit kick off time and likely a dull draw.
I have spent two days in bed coughing, sneezing and intermittently going from being as cold as the wife at the idea of sex and boiling like a kettle.
Not the most inspiring to drag you off your sick bed I have to admit.
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From the desk of the camp one.
What a result for Aston Villa at Liverpool on Saturday but all that hard work will go to waste unless they secure three points against a Stoke side that has not won away from home for almost four months.
I was particularly impressed with the performances of James Collins and Shay Given at Anfield and that point will have given the dressing room a huge lift.
Villa's next game after this is Manchester United away - and they won't get anything from that.
That's why it is so important they overcome a Stoke side that huffed and puffed their way to victory over a doomed Wolves team on Saturday.
Villa's key to success in this fixture is overcoming the physical threat of their opponents - something I fully expect them to do.
Prediction: 2-1
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3-0 Villa. For the first time this season pretty much, I am confident in us doing the job, Stoke have fitness issues with some of their players carrying knocks etc, and just think today is going to be our day.
Weimann, Gardner, NZogbia getting the goals, fitness permitting.
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against a Stoke side that has not won away from home for almost four months.
That's the sort of thng that scares me to death this season.
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-------------Given
Lichaj-Cuellar-Collins-Warnock
Carruthers-Herd-Ireland-N'Zogbia
---------Gabby
------------Weimann
This is what I would like, 4 changes which will keep us fresh. Injuries permitted, but if they are fit for the bench, they are fit to play in my opinion.
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We do seem to be the catalyst for rejuvenating dormant opposition this season. Arsenal haven't stopped winning since the cup game, Torres did against us what he couldn't do for six months. I'm only surprised Carroll didn't get a brace on Saturday. I'm still expecting a win today though.
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-------------Given
Lichaj-Cuellar-Collins-Warnock
Carruthers-Herd-Ireland-N'Zogbia
---------Gabby
------------Weimann
This is what I would like, 4 changes which will keep us fresh. Injuries permitted, but if they are fit for the bench, they are fit to play in my opinion.
That, under the circumstances, is a dream team. I'm really excited about Carruthers.
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A stirring score draw win
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Tedious draw. Much-needed point.
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Everything about this game is telling me it will be absolutely horrendous to sit through. Two goals would win it for either side but I can't see us getting them. A vile 1-1 draw to "guarantee" us safety before getting our trousers taken down at Old Trafford.
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Just can't see our defence holding out against Stoke's type of attack. Stoke to win by the odd goal.
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Does anyone of you guys know what's happened to Super Mark? He had a great impact with Chelsea, serving a beautiful assist for Lichaj, then he disappeared and wasn't even in the bench at Anfield.
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Injured. Did not travel with the squad to Liverpool.
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0-0
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A villa team that can't defend from corners or set pieces. A stoke team that sets themselves up for scoring at corners and set pieces. I see a very scrappy, nervy 2-2 draw
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Need to get something from this, as we'll lose at Man Utd and we'll be being talked about as being in trouble again should we lose 2 on the bounce.
I reckon 1-1 with us looking the better side.
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Why didn't Albrighton take the penalty?
I'm going Heskey 1-0 from a lung fro
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Need to score in the first in the first half it seems. Now we find out if McCleish has a spine.
Team he should play for height against stoke:
Given
Cueller Collins Baker Lichaj
Carruthers Herd Gardner Warnock
Wiemann Gabby
Subs Guzan Ireland N'Zogbia Bannan Heskey Johnson Williams
Hutton should be left out for all those penalties that should of been this season.
I rather accommodate Warnock in midfield that have him in defence
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as cold as the wife at the idea of sex
also: `as cold as Whitney Houston's bathwater'
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Tedious draw. Much-needed point.
Never been a big fan of comedy rock bands
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0-0.
El Gashico.
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as cold as the wife at the idea of sex
also: `as cold as Whitney Houston's bathwater'
*golf clap*
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0-0.
El Gashico.
That was my nickname in high school.
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0-0.
El Gashico.
El Crappio?
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0-0.
I see us an an overweight Dad dragging himself towards the finishing line in the parents sports day race before finally flopping over the line, out of breath but just glad that it's over for another year and that there are other Dads, that are far fatter and who smoke a packet of ciggies a day. Thank God for them.
But still, nagging in the back of his mind, he knows that next year he'll have to do it all again and there could yet be humiliation waiting.
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-------------Given
Lichaj-Cuellar-Collins-Warnock
Carruthers-Herd-Ireland-N'Zogbia
---------Gabby
------------Weimann
This is what I would like, 4 changes which will keep us fresh. Injuries permitted, but if they are fit for the bench, they are fit to play in my opinion.
That, under the circumstances, is a dream team. I'm really excited about Carruthers.
agree with that team but I would be happy enough if Bannon starts instead of carruthers . But wouldnt it be refreshing and exciting to see that team. I dont know If Hutton was still injured on saturday but I thought he was so lazy and looked awful.
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I have a really good feeling about this game, We are going to win and win well.
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is it 5.30 kick off but we are not on the tv ?
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I have a really good feeling about this game, We are going to win and win well.
Well i was going to say 1-1 at best but i'm going to take your optimism down with me Fergal. Come on you Villa boys !!!!
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is it 5.30 kick off but we are not on the tv ?
Yes, stoke played late on saturday so wanted the extra 2 and half hours for what its worth !!
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Had to be moved to give Stoke a full 48 hours between fixtures, they played Wulverhampertun late on Saturday.
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is it 5.30 kick off but we are not on the tv ?
Yes, stoke played late on saturday so wanted the extra 2 and half hours for what its worth !!
not a lot in the scheme of things you wouldnt have thought but cheers for the info
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i want to be optimistic but i just keep thinking about them piling in with their set peices oh well off we go come on you villa
tots
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I doubt Villa are likely to put us in a more relaxed mood for the remaining games by winning, we dont do things that way, the kids put in a big shift against Lpool and I dont think we will have the legs to grind it out against Stoke so another draw for me as we creep to the finish line.
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Heskey must not start and we must concnetrate on trying to win the game above anything else. Chances are Stoke will score from a set-piece, so let's focus on scoring more than them (what a novel idea, being a football match!) and play an attacking team that wants to get forward.
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is it 5.30 kick off but we are not on the tv ?
Yes, stoke played late on saturday so wanted the extra 2 and half hours for what its worth !!
not a lot in the scheme of things you wouldnt have thought but cheers for the info
I think it's a rule that you have to have at least 48 hours between games.
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I have a really good feeling about this game, We are going to win and win well.
Well i was going to say 1-1 at best but i'm going to take your optimism down with me Fergal. Come on you Villa boys !!!!
I haven't had a drink for days either...
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Heskey must not start and we must concnetrate on trying to win the game above anything else. Chances are Stoke will score from a set-piece, so let's focus on scoring more than them (what a novel idea, being a football match!) and play an attacking team that wants to get forward.
I'm almost certain Heskey will start today. It's one of the very very few games we play in a season where his inclusion is warranted. Having said that, I agree.
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Dry first half followed by 5 goal thriller in the second, with villa coming out 3 -2 winners due to gabby last minute goal.... I hope.
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We have the players to beat them with football, but I suspect we'll try and play them at their own game and be penned back more than we'd like. Still, both sides are blunt as a hunk of cheese, so 0-0 for me.
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Heskey must not start and we must concnetrate on trying to win the game above anything else. Chances are Stoke will score from a set-piece, so let's focus on scoring more than them (what a novel idea, being a football match!) and play an attacking team that wants to get forward.
I'm almost certain Heskey will start today. It's one of the very very few games we play in a season where his inclusion is warranted. Having said that, I agree.
I want him to play up front with Gabby as a 4-4-2.
Play Warnock on the left.
We need 3 points - badly.
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Had to be moved to give Stoke a full 48 hours between fixtures, they played Wulverhampertun late on Saturday.
I've just found this out myself for fucking fuck's sake.
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I reckon our kids probably need the rest more than their motley crew of cads, bounders and ne'er-do-wells. The extra two and a half hours might do us a favour.
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I'd go
Given
Hutton
Collins
Baker
Lichaj
Bannan
Herd
Ireland
Warnock
Gabby
Heskey
Come on McCack, go for the 3 points.
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Titter yer not, but I reckon Ivanhoe could actully be useful today. as long as he's stuck up front out the way and not in midfield he may cause them a few problems or at least slightly perturb them with his impression of a forward.. Rather likes those flies that look like wasps.
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Stoke are the worst team to watch in the Premier League. 2-0 Villa
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Titter yer not, but I reckon Ivanhoe could actully be useful today
We know he's past it, but I reckon he's at his best up front with a partner.
There was a period of 3 or 4 games last season when he played out of his skin, he got sent off against Sunderland and it was all downhill from there.
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whatever happened to all those incredibly friendly Stoke supporters who used to come on here after they first came up?
They were nice enough, but it was like getting cold-called by the Jehovah's Witnesses
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whatever happened to all those incredibly friendly Stoke supporters who used to come on here after they first came up?
They were nice enough, but it was like getting cold-called by the Jehovah's Witnesses
I think they got fed up with posters saying how unremitingly shit and boring their football was.
Talk about coming back to bite you on the arse!
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Titter yer not, but I reckon Ivanhoe could actully be useful today
We know he's past it, but I reckon he's at his best up front with a partner.
There was a period of 3 or 4 games last season when he played out of his skin, he got sent off against Sunderland and it was all downhill from there.
aye. oddly enough he is due his 2nd goal of the season
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Titter yer not, but I reckon Ivanhoe could actully be useful today
We know he's past it, but I reckon he's at his best up front with a partner.
There was a period of 3 or 4 games last season when he played out of his skin, he got sent off against Sunderland and it was all downhill from there.
Agree with this. The only thing he really can do well is be the target man alongside another, quicker striker. If we have to play him, we should at least play him in a role that he can manage.
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From the desk of the camp one.
What a result for Aston Villa at Liverpool on Saturday
Yeah, fuck off Lawro. 1-1 against the mighty all-conquering red machine.
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From the desk of the camp one.
What a result for Aston Villa at Liverpool on Saturday
Yeah, fuck off Lawro. 1-1 against the mighty all-conquering red machine.
Leave him alone, he thinks we'll win 2-1 today.
Although his predictions have been off ever since he shaved off the cock duster.
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Had to be moved to give Stoke a full 48 hours between fixtures, they played Wulverhampertun late on Saturday.
I was thinking it may be like a watershed thing, which this fixture thoroughly warrants.
But that would mean a 9:00 kick off.
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Titter yer not, but I reckon Ivanhoe could actully be useful today. as long as he's stuck up front out the way and not in midfield he may cause them a few problems or at least slightly perturb them with his impression of a forward.. Rather likes those flies that look like wasps.
Agree that Heskey could play a part today but I think it's more likely that he will be there to help defend set pieces.
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oh, and 1-0 to us. Delap og from a Lichaj throw.
Eat shit, Pulis.
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Titter yer not, but I reckon Ivanhoe could actully be useful today
We know he's past it, but I reckon he's at his best up front with a partner.
There was a period of 3 or 4 games last season when he played out of his skin, he got sent off against Sunderland and it was all downhill from there.
The difference is that Houiller played him as a striker, told him to get in the box and it seemed to work. McLeish plays him as an extra body and it's not much use at all.
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oh, and 1-0 to us. Delap og from a Lichaj throw.
It's not Delap anymore, Pulis has trained someone else to throw the ball very very long.
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Why didn't Albrighton take the penalty?
I'm going Heskey 1-0 from a lung fro
Not sure what a lung fro is but if it means heskey tearing one of his own lungs out to throw at the ball to score then I'm all for seeing that kind of commitment...
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Sorry this may have been answered before, but why the strange KO time?
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Sorry this may have been answered before, but why the strange KO time?
Because Gareth Barry was off the pitch being treated for an injury
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Sorry this may have been answered before, but why the strange KO time?
48 hours between premier league games.
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Sorry this may have been answered before, but why the strange KO time?
Because Gareth Barry was off the pitch being treated for an injury
I'm sorry. I really think we need an `H&V Gold' for self-indulgent in-jokes like that.
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Given some of the other topics underway, today is yet another opportunity to build on a decent/good display or result. We need to go at Stoke from the off and not sit back and hope for a break. Stoke will do what they do so we will need to defend just like we did brilliantly at their place earlier in the season. Any victory will do, but I can't remember the last time we won at home with any style or in a manner that was convincing. It would be nice to see that today.
I'm going for a 3-1 win - Gabby, Bannan (pen), Ireland and Huth for them.
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0-0 draw i reckon. We would probably win if we went for it all game but if we are still level at half time i expect we'll shut up shop.
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Gabby should have been taken off after an hour on Saturday. He was really struggling to move as the game progressed due to the knock sustained earlier. However, since Weimann isn't fully fit either and our other star "striker" was already on the field as a midfielder, Gabby had to battle through.
Maybe, Andy could start against Stoke and then Gabby brought on if needed.
Given
Hutton
Baker
Collins
Lihaj
Warnock
Gardner
Herd
Ireland
Bannan
Weimann
Are Marc and Zog likely to be fit ?
Good point, when I saw that tackle he made earlier in the game which was a full on 50/50 collision of leg and boot I winced, he must have some power in those legs because a lot of player would have been put straight out the game for weeks if not months, he did slow down later on and then seem to run it of towards the end so hopefully.
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If we can score more than one goal perhaps we'll win, but if not, I think a draw 1-1
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Heading off to VP now. We need to win this. COME ON VILLA.
See you all later.
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Sorry this may have been answered before, but why the strange KO time?
Because Gareth Barry was off the pitch being treated for an injury
I'm sorry. I really think we need an `H&V Gold' for self-indulgent in-jokes like that.
Yes specially as you could have not come up with any less tenuous link.
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Just about to leave the house, hopefully we'll end my 100% defeat streak this season.
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Sorry this may have been answered before, but why the strange KO time?
Because Gareth Barry was off the pitch being treated for an injury
I'm sorry. I really think we need an `H&V Gold' for self-indulgent in-jokes like that.
Where's Rio?
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I'm gonna run my fists all over you.
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There is a french rock band called Aston Villa.
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http://www.u.tv/
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There is a french rock band called Aston Villa.
D'ya think they would fancy a run out this afternoon.
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Hold on to your seats!
Whatever happened to him? He was truly nuts.
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I hope it's ****** night tonight.
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Win and we are safe. I see it being a draw mind.