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Title: The run-in
Post by: Legion on April 04, 2012, 08:13:09 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) D
Norwich (A) W
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Monty on April 04, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on April 04, 2012, 08:15:30 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Aston Manor on April 04, 2012, 08:15:59 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L

No,Ii'm not very confident.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 04, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
Liverpool (A) W
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) W
Spurs (H) D
Norwich (A) W
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Mazrim on April 04, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
Liverpool (A) B
Stoke City (H) O
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) O
West Brom (A) C
Spurs (H) K
Norwich (A) S
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 04, 2012, 08:26:33 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L

No,Ii'm not very confident.



same results for me


maybe a draw against Bolton
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 04, 2012, 08:26:57 PM
Liverpool (A) B
Stoke City (H) O
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) O
West Brom (A) C
Spurs (H) K
Norwich (A) S

That made the cat jump!
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 04, 2012, 08:28:40 PM

Liverpool Lose
Stoke City Draw
Man Utd Lose
Sunderland Draw
Bolton Win
West Brom Lose
Spurs Lose
Norwich Draw
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: CJ on April 04, 2012, 08:30:31 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) L
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D

And safe, and breathe
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: London Villan on April 04, 2012, 08:31:35 PM
5 points max... which probably be enough... just...
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on April 04, 2012, 08:33:32 PM
Liverpool (A) D
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) W
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) W
Norwich (A) L

Can only see defeat at Carrot road it's a Villa graveyard. Safety assured with victory at Old Trafford. 8)
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Matt C on April 04, 2012, 08:34:25 PM
Liverpool (A) D
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L

...and we're over the line.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: JJ-AV on April 04, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) D
Norwich (A) L


39 and safe in 16th.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 04, 2012, 08:38:20 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) L
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
then...............The Great Escape !
Norwich (A) W
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Pete3206 on April 04, 2012, 08:43:31 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Aston Manor on April 04, 2012, 08:45:06 PM
Is there an argument for giving up trying to win games as McLeish is useless at getting the bets out of his team? Go 4-5-1and make us difficult to break down. Obviously I'm not saying don't try and win games but McLeish realises his anti-football wouldn't wash here and so has tried to be tight AND play with wide  men to counter-attack. Its so alien to him we've been left looking shapeless.

Go back to filling the midfield and leave one man up top - Heskey. Put Gabby wide and cross our fingers.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Villanation on April 04, 2012, 08:45:38 PM
Liverpool (A)...........Win-3pts
Stoke City (H).........Draw-1pt
Man Utd (A)............Lose-0pts
Sunderland (H)......Draw-1pt
Bolton (H)..............Win-3pts
West Brom (A).......Draw 1pt
Spurs (H)...............Lose- 0pt
Norwich (A)............Draw-1pt

Finish with 43 points, we survive, I reckon about 15th maybe, that close.

Bit surprised at how many have got us finishing with less than 37 points, IMO we are down with less than 39/40, only because the teams below us are starting to get points.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 04, 2012, 08:47:12 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) L
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
then...............The Great Escape !
Norwich (A) W

We'd almost certainly be down before the last game.

Another approach is the best to worst chance of a win:

Bolton (H)
Stoke (H)
West Brom (A)
Sunderland (H)
Norwich (A)
Liverpool (A)
Tottenham (H)
Man United (A)

I'd be looking for 2 wins from the first top 4 games, and 2-3 draws elsewhere.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: lovejoy on April 04, 2012, 08:49:31 PM
Our points in themselves don't matter, it's how we do in relation to others that count.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Goldie.7 on April 04, 2012, 08:49:40 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) W
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D

Or 6 points.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: tarzansbrother on April 04, 2012, 08:52:34 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) D
Norwich (A) W

Full time or just the second half results? Something our manager always looks at the twat
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Villanation on April 04, 2012, 08:52:45 PM
Key games:

Liverpool, we have to take something from Liverpool.
Stoke City, we have to take a point of Stoke.
Bolton................This is the most must win game of the whole lot, we do anything less than win this and we are down.IMO

Other key games=Norwich and Sunderland, we have to take points out of these games.

Its when you do stuff like this that makes you realise just how close it is.

On the positive side all the teams below us may run out of steam and fail to gain any more points, then its all over and we survive.

This weekend is crucial not just for our game but for all the other teams below us.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: bilsim on April 04, 2012, 08:53:27 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) L
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L

By this logic I can only be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Nastylee on April 04, 2012, 08:53:41 PM
Just remember the five teams below us have had worse seasons than us. I know it's hard to believe but that's the reason they are where they are. To expect three of those five to go on runs that will not only eclipse the five points between us but then better our form for the remainder shouldn't happen. One win and the sooner the better should see us home and dry as I think we'll get our few draws.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Villanation on April 04, 2012, 09:00:59 PM
Just remember the five teams below us have had worse seasons than us. I know it's hard to believe but that's the reason they are where they are. To expect three of those five to go on runs that will not only eclipse the five points between us but then better our form for the remainder shouldn't happen. One win and the sooner the better should see us home and dry as I think we'll get our few draws.

Precisely, the only problem I foresee is if we lose over the weekend to both Liverpool and Stoke, that's a major set back, if in turn the teams below us pick up points we get deeper in simply because we won't get anything of Man Utd, that's when we could be overtaken, its possible then we would have to go up against MON and Sunderland, that then could become the crucial fixture that puts us down, I think the word Ironic springs to mind. Then the Bolton game becomes the biggest game this club has faced in yonks, enormous pressure on young players just getting blooded, I would not be confident.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: D.boy on April 04, 2012, 09:02:04 PM
Liverpool (A) C
Stoke City (H) L
Man Utd (A) U
Sunderland (H) E
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) E
Spurs (H) S
Norwich (A) S
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: villajk on April 04, 2012, 09:02:30 PM
Liverpool (A) W
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) W
Spurs (H) D
Norwich (A) W

Oh, how I wish.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: LamBeast on April 04, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
Bolton is the game we need to win.end of.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Villanation on April 04, 2012, 09:05:45 PM
Wow, there was me thinking when we appointed McLeish, we ain't gonna see any cup finals for sometime, guess what, we just signed up to 8 of them.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Merv on April 04, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D


Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: hawkeye on April 04, 2012, 09:14:19 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D
3 points not enough
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: LamBeast on April 04, 2012, 09:30:22 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D
3 points not enough


I think we will get something at Olbiyun.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Des Little on April 04, 2012, 10:21:01 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D

We're fucked
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: ozzjim on April 04, 2012, 10:21:14 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D


Think the Sunderland game will be too big for all concerned and we will scrape a scrappy win, think we have done it then lose next up to Bolton. That was me at my total high of optimism though, and a couple of the D could easily be L, just hoping it sees us over the line.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: villanic on April 04, 2012, 10:28:04 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L

I'm really struggling to see where a win is coming from and I don't think 3 points will be enough.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: l_mckay on April 04, 2012, 10:36:04 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Nastylee on April 04, 2012, 11:26:39 PM
I think the Sunderland game is a good one for us. It's the one game where the crowd will unite behind Aston Villa and it could be advantageous.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Lobsterboy on April 04, 2012, 11:40:00 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D

Six points should see us safe and we can all forward to next season...
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: TonyD on April 04, 2012, 11:48:30 PM
Hard to say. Buy think we win 1 game and draw 2. That will have 38pts.   Just enough. 
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Goldie.7 on April 05, 2012, 01:39:33 AM
Would a poll be any good with this, 1-3 points, 4-6 points, 6-9 points, the last one being, wtf over 10 points.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Matt Collins on April 05, 2012, 06:59:37 AM
Beat Bolton, draw with WBA, Stoke, and possibly spurs, lose the rest. Pretty tight but hopefully staying up by a point or two.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rigadon on April 05, 2012, 07:05:51 AM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) D
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D


5 points and safe by a point or two. I hope. 
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Matt Collins on April 05, 2012, 07:06:19 AM
Bloody hell, I just saw that coyle has won manager of the month after three wins in march. So struggling to see where the at least one win that we definitely need is going to come from.

I really think this is going to be tight, and pretty unpleasant. We desperately need our experienced players back ASAP. I know they've let us down in a number of respects, but this team of kids is really not what we need at the moment
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 05, 2012, 07:39:14 AM
Liverpool (A) 0pts
Stoke City (H) 1pt
Man Utd (A) 0pts
Sunderland (H) 0pts
Bolton (H) 3pts
West Brom (A) 0pts
Spurs (H) 0pts
Norwich (A) 1pt

O'Neill will have Sunderland fired up for this one due to his hatred of us, hard to see anything out of Liverpool, Manure and Spurs. I think West Brom will beat us on their patch.

So 5 points in total.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: avfcpg on April 05, 2012, 07:41:48 AM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) Don't Care Doesnt Matter
West Brom (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Spurs (H) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Norwich (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter - McLeish Sacked after the game
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 05, 2012, 07:44:42 AM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) Don't Care Doesnt Matter
West Brom (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Spurs (H) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Norwich (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter - McLeish Sacked after the game


If your predictions pan out for 6 points after the Stoke and Sunderland games, we'll be safe and there will be no chance of him being sacked.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Mister E on April 05, 2012, 08:04:19 AM
I think Sunderland will be the real shock game; they'll come down here and muller us. But points against L''The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Stoke followed by a win against Bolton and WBA will se us safe.
Hopefully, MON's embarrassment of us at VP will tip RL over the edge re McL and he gets the bullet at the end of the season.


Hmmm, well maybe.

But I think Sunderland will embarrass us.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 05, 2012, 08:47:37 AM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) L
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) L
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L

I said we wouldn't get a point for the rest of the season and I still believe that
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: MonsXI on April 05, 2012, 08:56:35 AM
Liverpool (A) D
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) L
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: midnite on April 05, 2012, 09:41:35 AM
5 point tally between now and the end of the season I think. With a win at home to Bolton. Draw against stoke and West brom. Whether that's enough, we'll find out soon enough.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: QBVILLA on April 05, 2012, 10:02:43 AM
Wins against Sunderland and Albion.Draws against Bolton,Stoke and Liverpool.Lose the rest and finish 15th.Woohoo
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on April 05, 2012, 10:08:08 AM
If we win all the remaining games we will finish 7th.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 05, 2012, 10:17:52 AM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) W
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: darren woolley on April 05, 2012, 10:59:01 AM
I think we will get 5 points from our remaining games.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Chipsticks on April 05, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
Liverpool (A) Win
Stoke City (H) Draw
Man Utd (A) Loss
Sunderland (H) Draw
Bolton (H) Win
West Brom (A) Draw
Spurs (H) Loss
Norwich (A) Draw
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: avfcpg on April 05, 2012, 11:59:25 AM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) Don't Care Doesnt Matter
West Brom (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Spurs (H) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Norwich (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter - McLeish Sacked after the game


If your predictions pan out for 6 points after the Stoke and Sunderland games, we'll be safe and there will be no chance of him being sacked.
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) W
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) Don't Care Doesnt Matter
West Brom (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Spurs (H) Don't Care Doesn't Matter
Norwich (A) Don't Care Doesn't Matter - McLeish Sacked after the game


If your predictions pan out for 6 points after the Stoke and Sunderland games, we'll be safe and there will be no chance of him being sacked.
Maybe we'll lose the last 4 heavily, stay up and that will seal his fate...God, what a sad state of affairs it all is..
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: MonsXI on April 05, 2012, 12:01:50 PM
Bolton v Fulham H
Chelsea v Wigan H
West Brom v Blackburn D
Stoke v Wolves H
Man Utd v QPR H

These games effect us this weekend and how i think they'll pan out
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: VillaBobby on April 05, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) L
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D

Stay up by the skin of our teeth on goal difference. Alex to be given an extension to his contract & 7 x 6'3" players joining the club in the summer.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: avfcpg on April 05, 2012, 12:07:25 PM
Wigan face Chelsea, Man Yoo & Arsenal the next 3 games...it could be 1 from Bolton, Blackburn, QPR and maybe us after those 3 games..

The good thing is that at least there is a good battle for 4th place to keep the teams competive and all to play for.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Damo70 on April 05, 2012, 12:12:29 PM
Liverpool A        Lose
Stoke H             Win
Man U A            Lose
Sunderland H    Win
Bolton H           Win   
WBA A              Draw
Spurs H            Lose
Norwich A         Draw
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: UK Redsox on April 05, 2012, 12:34:13 PM
Wigan face Chelsea, Man Yoo & Arsenal the next 3 games...it could be 1 from Bolton, Blackburn, QPR and maybe us after those 3 games..

The good thing is that at least there is a good battle for 4th place to keep the teams competive and all to play for.

I can't see QPR getting any more than two points from their remaining games
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 05, 2012, 12:52:09 PM
If your predictions pan out for 6 points after the Stoke and Sunderland games, we'll be safe and there will be no chance of him being sacked.

Good. Villa being safe is what we want after all isn't it?
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: QBVILLA on April 05, 2012, 01:13:56 PM
Wigan face Chelsea, Man Yoo & Arsenal the next 3 games...it could be 1 from Bolton, Blackburn, QPR and maybe us after those 3 games..

The good thing is that at least there is a good battle for 4th place to keep the teams competive and all to play for.

I can't see QPR getting any more than two points from their remaining games

I couldn't see them beating Liverpool and Arsenal, nor could I see Wigan winning at Anfield or Bolton winning three on the spin.The past fortnight has taught us that we can't afford to rely on anyone else.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Oscar Arce on April 05, 2012, 01:33:12 PM
Liverpool A        Lose
Stoke H             Draw
Man U A            Lose
Sunderland H    Lose
Bolton H           Draw   
WBA A              Draw
Spurs H            Lose
Norwich A         Draw

37points, will that be enough...don't think so
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: john e on April 05, 2012, 01:44:12 PM
i'm confident we will get the points we need from the remaining fixtures, i dont really know exactly where because football has a way of supprising you.

but the one game where i am more confident than any other is the Sunderland at home match,
 i notice most people have gone for a loss, i dont think so, i know MON will get them up for it as he comes across as a spitefull individual, but i reckon he will be in for a fall on that day,
 Sunderland are a poor side riding on a wave of MON hysterier and a lot of our own players will also be up for it especially those who didnt get a look in during his reign, i reckon we will give him a bit of payback that day.

also VP will be rocking with support for the team no matter what
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Mazrim on April 05, 2012, 01:45:55 PM
Apropos of nothing, if I see the word classy written on Pravda one more time I'm going to scream.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Fergal on April 05, 2012, 01:48:31 PM
Anything could happen in any of the games left to all the teams in this relegation battle.  It would take a brave man to put his house on us staying up.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Boz on April 05, 2012, 02:35:39 PM
Like others I think there will be some surprise results among the bottom 6, but I fear Villa could end up with only 3 more points, probably with 3 draws, as they don't seem capable of winning on current form.

If this is the case, I hope that at least three below us do worse.

UTV
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Monty on April 05, 2012, 02:40:59 PM
Apropos of nothing, if I see the word classy written on Pravda one more time I'm going to scream.

The day they started using it to describe Steve Sidwell was the day it stopped being a word.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Cuz on April 05, 2012, 02:50:36 PM
Can't see us winning any under this manager Sunderland will tonk us then the shit will certainly hit the fan
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 05, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
If your predictions pan out for 6 points after the Stoke and Sunderland games, we'll be safe and there will be no chance of him being sacked.

Good. Villa being safe is what we want after all isn't it?

Er yes, but avfcpg, who I was replying to, said he'd get the sack at the end of the season after the remaining games.

I don't believe that would happen.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rick_avfc on April 05, 2012, 04:14:36 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D

39 points and just safe.  lets hope so anyway
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 05, 2012, 06:43:58 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) D
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) D
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) L

6 points with the Spurs game turning nasty on McLeish. That's only if he's lucky. Lose to Sunderland and he'll get battered.
He'll be gone in the summer.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: woody4866 on April 05, 2012, 08:12:37 PM
Liverpool A        Lose
Stoke H             Draw
Man U A            Lose
Sunderland H    Lose
Bolton H           Draw   
WBA A              Draw
Spurs H            Lose (and now we start shittin ourselves)
Norwich A         Draw

the great escape on goal difference
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: TheSandman on April 05, 2012, 09:04:33 PM
Wigan face Chelsea, Man Yoo & Arsenal the next 3 games...it could be 1 from Bolton, Blackburn, QPR and maybe us after those 3 games..

The good thing is that at least there is a good battle for 4th place to keep the teams competive and all to play for.

I can't see QPR getting any more than two points from their remaining games

Nobody expected them to beat Liverpool or Arsenal. But they did. I think they only seem to play against the big boys. We shouldn't expect anyone below us to do any favours especially as bad teams tend to pick up at the end of the season.

Liverpool A        Draw (If we approach the game in the correct manner)
Stoke H             Win
Man U A            Lose
Sunderland H    Lose
Bolton H           Win   
WBA A              Draw
Spurs H            Lose
Norwich A         Draw

So 9 points IMO.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: ROBBO on April 05, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
How many games have we won this season? to think we will win a quarter of our remaining gamis is very optimistic.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Ads on April 06, 2012, 01:06:06 AM
There is no fucking way that Sandwell Town will beat us three times on the spin.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Fergal on April 06, 2012, 05:33:11 AM
There is no fucking way that Sandwell Town will beat us three times on the spin.
Don't bet on it.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: john e on April 06, 2012, 09:05:38 AM

Liverpool A    - Lose
Stoke           -Draw
Man Utd A    - Lose
Sunderland H  - Win
Bolton H        - Win
WBA A          - Draw
Spurs H         - Lose
Norwich A      - Lose
 
41 points =   No Probs
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Mister E on April 06, 2012, 09:06:46 AM
How many games have we won this season? to think we will win a quarter of our remaining gamis is very optimistic.
well, I think it's ...


... a quarter of them in the P'ship.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on April 06, 2012, 10:00:47 AM
Liverpool A   Draw.
Stoke       H    Win
Man Utd   A    Lose
Sunderland H Win
Bolton         H   Win
WBA          A     Win
Spurs         H     Lose
Norwich    A      Draw.

Which gives us 47 points and mid table mediocrity.  I'm ever the optimist.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Monty on April 06, 2012, 10:05:08 AM
Liverpool A   Draw.
Stoke       H    Win
Man Utd   A    Lose
Sunderland H Win
Bolton         H   Win
WBA          A     Win
Spurs         H     Lose
Norwich    A      Draw.

Which gives us 47 points and mid table mediocrity.  I'm ever the optimist.

Wow, I look forward to this! Who's the new manager and how did he coax Zidane out of retirement?
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: B90 villain on April 06, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
Liverpool (a) L
Stoke (h) W
Man utd (a) L
Sunderland (h) D
Bolton (h) W
West Brom (a) D
Spurs (h) D
Norwich (a) L

We are staying up!!!!
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on April 06, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
@ Monty. Didn't you read the last four words of my post? ;)
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Irish villain on April 06, 2012, 10:38:19 AM

Liverpool (a) L
Stoke (h) D
Man utd (a) L
Sunderland (h) L
Bolton (h) W
West Brom (a) D
Spurs (h) L
Norwich (a) D

39 points. This will go to the wire. Thank you Randy and Alex.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Monty on April 06, 2012, 10:41:33 AM
@ Monty. Didn't you read the last four words of my post? ;)

I did. That's why I asked! :P
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Irish villain on April 06, 2012, 10:46:39 AM
Liverpool A   Draw.
Stoke       H    Win
Man Utd   A    Lose
Sunderland H Win
Bolton         H   Win
WBA          A     Win
Spurs         H     Lose
Norwich    A      Draw.

Which gives us 47 points and mid table mediocrity.  I'm ever the optimist.

I'll have what you're taking.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Steve67 on April 06, 2012, 12:50:12 PM

Liverpool (a) L
Stoke (h) D
Man utd (a) L
Sunderland (h) L
Bolton (h) W
West Brom (a) D
Spurs (h) L
Norwich (a) D

39 points. This will go to the wire. Thank you Randy and Alex.
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This is exactly the same as I was thinking.  Beating Bolton at home is the only win we'll pick up. I think we'll stay up by a couple of points but this really isn't good enough.  Absolute disgrace.  McLeish out.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 06, 2012, 01:07:02 PM
Did the predictor. We finished 17th on 37 points. Draws with Stoke, Olbiyun, Bolton and Norwich.

Wigan and Wolves already down by the last game and us one point ahead of QPR going into the final day.

We draw at Norwich and they lose at Man Citeh.

Man Ure win the league with Arsenal pipping Spurs to third on goal difference.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: django on April 06, 2012, 03:03:19 PM
I did the predictor on BBC for what its worth (absolutely nothing) and had us going down.

I am amazed that so many people on here think that our short/young/physically weak side will get 3 points against Stoke rather than being bullied into oblivion. Or that we will get anything from the game against Sunderland, a side on an opposite trajectory to ourselves.

I really hope i'm wrong and we get something from our next game because if we have to go all gung ho (no i cant imagine it either) against Stoke and Sunderland i fear they will pick us off. The pressure that would put our inexperienced kids under going into some tough games doesn't bear thinking about.

I think it all hinges on the game against Bolton, win it and we're ok. Draw it and we may need to go into the Norwich game needing something, lose and we might need to win that game.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Monty on April 06, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
I did the predictor on BBC for what its worth (absolutely nothing) and had us going down.

I am amazed that so many people on here think that our short/young/physically weak side will get 3 points against Stoke rather than being bullied into oblivion.

Last I checked football was a game played with a ball, not a tug-of-war.

If we go down it won't be because of being too physically weak. It will be, if anything, because of just that kind of thinking which over-values the physical side of football ahead of the technical.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Nev on April 06, 2012, 03:16:46 PM
Easter is always pivitol, if we loose both games, I think we will go down.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rigadon on April 06, 2012, 03:34:46 PM
What was the game in which Marcus Alback scored in towards the end of the last season we were relegation threatened?  Was that Bolton as well?

Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Nev on April 06, 2012, 03:40:13 PM
What was the game in which Marcus Alback scored in towards the end of the last season we were relegation threatened?  Was that Bolton as well?



Sunderland.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: django on April 06, 2012, 04:51:18 PM
I did the predictor on BBC for what its worth (absolutely nothing) and had us going down.

I am amazed that so many people on here think that our short/young/physically weak side will get 3 points against Stoke rather than being bullied into oblivion.

Last I checked football was a game played with a ball, not a tug-of-war.

If we go down it won't be because of being too physically weak. It will be, if anything, because of just that kind of thinking which over-values the physical side of football ahead of the technical.

Maybe, but as an example, Arsenal have struggled at times over the years as despite having good footballers they have been overwhelmed by the physical side of the premiership. They have come to terms with that a lot better now and are asserting themselves more and are able to dictate the play through their football ability but that has been arrived at through experience.

If you are feeling under pressure in one of your first senior starts it might be harder to keep calm and pick out a pass with a lumbering centre back raking his studs down the back of your leg and elbowing you in the throat, is all i meant.

I absolutely agree with you that over a season you live and die by your football ability rather than being able to mix it with the likes of Stoke. It's another reason why i think the young players should have been used more in the earlier part of the season rather than being thrown in now when we don't have any options. I think it's better to introduce young players when the pressures off rather than bearing down on them. The physical side of the game is just another thing for them to contend with and i'm not convinced that it would be a walk in the park against stoke anyway.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Monty on April 06, 2012, 04:56:00 PM
I think it's all about how you use the players. McLeish is a physically-minded manager, the type who thinks of football as a war-like struggle. For that reason, he is a) fundamentally unsuited to our group of players, as his style encourages the worst and discourages the best, and b) just unsuited to top level football in general.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: django on April 06, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
Absolutely, i think there is no reason why our players shouldn't be able to beat Stoke in a game of football, although the team isn't at full strength at the moment so it would be a tough game. Sadly the way McLeish is likely to send them out is for the tug-of-war you mentioned earlier which is why i think we'll lose.

We need to try and play round them but i suspect we'll try and play them at their own game and lose.

I sincerely hope i'm wrong because its a vital game in our run in.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Monty on April 06, 2012, 05:03:30 PM
Absolutely, i think there is no reason why our players shouldn't be able to beat Stoke in a game of football, although the team isn't at full strength at the moment so it would be a tough game. Sadly the way McLeish is likely to send them out is for the tug-of-war you mentioned earlier which is why i think we'll lose.

We need to try and play round them but i suspect we'll try and play them at their own game and lose.

I sincerely hope i'm wrong because its a vital game in our run in.

Agreed on that, though I think Stoke's sheer bluntness when faced with a massed defence may well mean a 0-0. Either way, it'll be the ugliest game since the away fixture in December.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Rigadon on April 06, 2012, 05:24:11 PM
What was the game in which Marcus Alback scored in towards the end of the last season we were relegation threatened?  Was that Bolton as well?



Sunderland.

Ah yes.  Cheers, Nev.

We have the same kind of feel to us this time out too. 

Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: *shellac* on April 07, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
Liverpool (A) L
Stoke City (H) D
Man Utd (A) L
Sunderland (H) W
Bolton (H) W
West Brom (A) L
Spurs (H) L
Norwich (A) D

8 points.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: villajk on April 07, 2012, 08:33:20 PM
In the taxi club before the game I predicted that we'd get two more points this season.  Draws against Bolton and Norwich.  Also predicted all the other relegation contenders and had us staying up on my 35 points.  Today's point can only be an added bonus.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 07, 2012, 08:37:21 PM
Well, that's a point more than most of you jibbering pessimists predicted!
We'll be fine.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 07, 2012, 08:47:44 PM
We will.

Blackburn have hit a slump again so I think they'll struggle to get more than 33 points.

Wigan and QPR will also find it a major struggle to get to 35 points.

And that means we'd have to lose every single game left in the season when one surprising stat of the season is the most games we've lost in a row in the league only stands at two.
Title: Re: The run-in
Post by: nodge on April 07, 2012, 10:44:10 PM
We will.

Blackburn have hit a slump again so I think they'll struggle to get more than 33 points.

Wigan and QPR will also find it a major struggle to get to 35 points.

And that means we'd have to lose every single game left in the season when one surprising stat of the season is the most games we've lost in a row in the league only stands at two.

Blimey, it felt like we'd lost 3 in about 2 and a half hours when we lost to Liverpool , Man U and Arse in December.
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