Oh fucking goody, another McLeish thread.so why bother fucking posting in it then !
Could you not have found one of the other 533 we already have and asked this question?
None whatsoever Even if he bought good players in, he would turn them into crap ones soon enough with his negativity.We are talking about a manager who has managed to blunt one of the most prolific strikers in the PL who scored for fun at bloody CharltonI think the reason behind Bent is the fact that his supply line, Young and Downing, were both sold prior to AMcL coming and the replacements aren't up to scratch.
Nigel, dont feel sorry for mcleish , he is on good wages here and will get a good payoff for making a pigs ear of the job- shambolic!Eastie, I don't feel sorry for him and believe me my patience is wearing too
We have plenty of players that could have supplied Bent,set up the right way.Bent scored for fun under Steve Bruce FFS!!None whatsoever Even if he bought good players in, he would turn them into crap ones soon enough with his negativity.We are talking about a manager who has managed to blunt one of the most prolific strikers in the PL who scored for fun at bloody CharltonI think the reason behind Bent is the fact that his supply line, Young and Downing, were both sold prior to AMcL coming and the replacements aren't up to scratch.
Please don't lock it I know for a fact they have people constantly reading the messageboard at Villa .They need to know the strength of feeling. The more the merrierAnd the fact that the club read these boards you would think that some posters ought to think very carefully about some of the personal abuse dished out to AM. I'm not going to give examples, just skim through the McLeish threads.
Please don't lock it I know for a fact they have people constantly reading the messageboard at Villa .They need to know the strength of feeling. The more the merrierAnd the fact that the club read these boards you would think that some posters ought to think very carefully about some of the personal abuse dished out to AM. I'm not going to give examples, just skim through the McLeish threads.
He has always come across as a decent human being, he's just not very good at football management. But that doesn't give us the right to abuse him personally.
If we just stick to the facts about his tenure at VP and got rid of the name calling the club might take our concerns a bit more seriously.
Rant over. The answer to the question is no.
bang on the nail this
I have always said he has to be given time.It took balls for himto accept the job? Sorry Nigel but that kind of nonsense gets my goat. It's like saying it takes balls to win the lottery. He's on two million quid a year, more than most will earn in an entire lifetime. His PL credibility was non-existent, I can't imagine any other PL club touching him with a bargepole, and he gets offered a lifeline. And the worst he'll endure is a bit of abuse and then eventually the sack. I bet he pisses himslef laughing when he hears about people feeling sorry for him.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
None whatsoever Even if he bought good players in, he would turn them into crap ones soon enough with his negativity.We are talking about a manager who has managed to blunt one of the most prolific strikers in the PL who scored for fun at bloody CharltonI think the reason behind Bent is the fact that his supply line, Young and Downing, were both sold prior to AMcL coming and the replacements aren't up to scratch.
10 1n 25 this season 9 in 16 under GHNone whatsoever Even if he bought good players in, he would turn them into crap ones soon enough with his negativity.We are talking about a manager who has managed to blunt one of the most prolific strikers in the PL who scored for fun at bloody CharltonI think the reason behind Bent is the fact that his supply line, Young and Downing, were both sold prior to AMcL coming and the replacements aren't up to scratch.
When you say blunt, do you mean pretty much kept up the goals to games record he's had all his career?
Previous polls have shown that AM still has some backing amongst supporters. The argument for has always been that he needs time and money to build his own squad and should be given a chance to do that. I think it was up around 17% - 20%, backing him last time we had a poll.
But, there does seem to have been a shift recently and its difficult to see anyone backing him...at all.
So, my question is does ANYONE still have faith that he is the right man for the job, if he was given the resources or should he walk, regardless.
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I have always said he has to be given time.It took balls for himto accept the job? Sorry Nigel but that kind of nonsense gets my goat. It's like saying it takes balls to win the lottery. He's on two million quid a year, more than most will earn in an entire lifetime. His PL credibility was non-existent, I can't imagine any other PL club touching him with a bargepole, and he gets offered a lifeline. And the worst he'll endure is a bit of abuse and then eventually the sack. I bet he pisses himslef laughing when he hears about people feeling sorry for him.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
10 1n 25 this season 9 in 16 under GH
What about the 36 in 63 for Sunderland?10 1n 25 this season 9 in 16 under GH
9 in 16 was a real purple patch for him. His top flight career record is 100 in 229 games. He's played 22 league games for us under AM and scored 9. Basically, he's scored his average this season, so hardly 'blunted'.
I'm still wary about the clamour for Rodgers and Lambert, i'd like to see how they perform in their second seasons.Norwich are below us in the form table at the mo.I'd still take Lambert like a shot over Mcleish
I'm still wary about the clamour for Rodgers and Lambert, i'd like to see how they perform in their second seasons.
What about the 36 in 63 for Sunderland?10 1n 25 this season 9 in 16 under GH
9 in 16 was a real purple patch for him. His top flight career record is 100 in 229 games. He's played 22 league games for us under AM and scored 9. Basically, he's scored his average this season, so hardly 'blunted'.
He'd have scored more under practically anyone else
OK,I believe Mcleish's poor tactics and negative outlook has had a noticeable effect on Bents goal tally and 10 in 25 is as close to 1:3 as it is to 1:2What about the 36 in 63 for Sunderland?10 1n 25 this season 9 in 16 under GH
9 in 16 was a real purple patch for him. His top flight career record is 100 in 229 games. He's played 22 league games for us under AM and scored 9. Basically, he's scored his average this season, so hardly 'blunted'.
He'd have scored more under practically anyone else
A claim that is, of course, impossible to prove either way and takes no account of losing his main supply lines from last season.
The fact remains his career average is just under 1 in 2 and this season he's scored just ubder 1 in 2, so again I think the use of the word 'blunted' is just plain wrong.
It is remarkable that Bent has managed to score 10 goals this season, given the fact that the ball hardly ever comes anywhere near him.Absolutely. The fact that even Steve Bruce had him scoring for fun,speaks volumes about our present manager
Name one manager who'd have accepted the job given those constraits?I have always said he has to be given time.It took balls for himto accept the job? Sorry Nigel but that kind of nonsense gets my goat. It's like saying it takes balls to win the lottery. He's on two million quid a year, more than most will earn in an entire lifetime. His PL credibility was non-existent, I can't imagine any other PL club touching him with a bargepole, and he gets offered a lifeline. And the worst he'll endure is a bit of abuse and then eventually the sack. I bet he pisses himslef laughing when he hears about people feeling sorry for him.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
No.A fine example of what I was on about in my post.
Get rid of the porridge faced moron.
No...but. I was listening to Man Utd Blackburn last night and was quietly confident that Utd would score no matter how late. And it got me thinking that Ferguson didn't get off to a good start, although not as bad as Mcleish, but that they stuck with him and look what he has achieved. You wonder, what if... because I don't think he will be sacked, he would need to walk.Big difference is that SrALex had won stuff for Aberdeen; although McLueless won the hokey-cokey Cup last season, his record has been pretty abject since he came south. Just add together his combined seasons with us and the Bloose and you'll see deep and engrained mediocrity.
Name one manager who'd have accepted the job given those constraits?I have always said he has to be given time.It took balls for himto accept the job? Sorry Nigel but that kind of nonsense gets my goat. It's like saying it takes balls to win the lottery. He's on two million quid a year, more than most will earn in an entire lifetime. His PL credibility was non-existent, I can't imagine any other PL club touching him with a bargepole, and he gets offered a lifeline. And the worst he'll endure is a bit of abuse and then eventually the sack. I bet he pisses himslef laughing when he hears about people feeling sorry for him.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
You were looking at the likes of McLaren I doubt if even Steve Bruce would have come.
The only option, which was what I wanted, was to promote within the club. An option which many didn't want.
If you're looking for a blanket ban on McLeish insults, you're barking up the wrong tree.No.A fine example of what I was on about in my post.
Get rid of the porridge faced moron.
Would you say that to his face? If not then don't hide behind a keyboard to do it.
personally, I thought that losing the two best players on the team would be a GOOD thing and spring the boys right to the top!Newcastle managed it
personally, I thought that losing the two best players on the team would be a GOOD thing and spring the boys right to the top!
I think he's struggling in a situation where not all the problems are of his making. However, I also think he is not the right man for the job, and Villa could get a better manager. Can we get one willing to work within the parameters set by Lerner or with the person spec Lerner sets out? That answer is more difficult to answer, so I guess it may be a case of McLeish being the best the Villa could get whilst Lerner is in charge and money is an issue.
I'm rimming the hole here, but I guess it's a no from me too. Villa should have a better manager.
Its his inability to get a team scoring goals that is his main failing. In the 'future of the manager' thread someone posted how many goals his teams had scored over the years. Appalling.personally, I thought that losing the two best players on the team would be a GOOD thing and spring the boys right to the top!
Yeah, this again. It's a very simplistic view. No-one expected to finish in the top six again, or even top eight, having lost Young and Downing. But we had all summer, practically, to rebuild the team, and a reasonable amount of cash - almost £20m to do so. Not enough to challenge for Europe, but more than a lot of teams in this division get. Given that, we should be doing better than piddling around in 15th/16th place, having won seven league games in eight months.
Seven league games in eight months.
it is a case of when the board stop being petty and accept they made a huge mistake and rectify it.
worst Villa bosses since 1982
1st - Graham Turner
2nd - Billy McNeill
3rd - Alex McLeish
Venglos gets a sympathetic exclusion, even if in an Ivo Stas letter home, he claimed Doug Ellis approached him at a bus stop in Prague and offered him the Villa job.
Its his inability to get a team scoring goals that is his main failing. In the 'future of the manager' thread someone posted how many goals his teams had scored over the years. Appalling.personally, I thought that losing the two best players on the team would be a GOOD thing and spring the boys right to the top!
Yeah, this again. It's a very simplistic view. No-one expected to finish in the top six again, or even top eight, having lost Young and Downing. But we had all summer, practically, to rebuild the team, and a reasonable amount of cash - almost £20m to do so. Not enough to challenge for Europe, but more than a lot of teams in this division get. Given that, we should be doing better than piddling around in 15th/16th place, having won seven league games in eight months.
Seven league games in eight months.
| Season | Club | League Games | Goals for | (per game) | Goals Against | (per game) |
| 94-95 | motherwell | 36 | 50 | 1.39 | 50 | 1.39 |
| 95-96 | motherwell | 36 | 28 | 0.78 | 39 | 1.08 |
| 96-97 | motherwell | 36 | 44 | 1.22 | 55 | 1.53 |
| 98-99 | Hibernian | 36 | 84 | 2.33 | 33 | 0.92 |
| 99-00 | Hibernian | 36 | 49 | 1.36 | 61 | 1.69 |
| 00-01 | Hibernian | 36 | 57 | 1.58 | 35 | 0.97 |
| 02-03 | Rangers | 36 | 101 | 2.81 | 28 | 0.78 |
| 03-04 | Rangers | 36 | 76 | 2.11 | 33 | 0.92 |
| 04-05 | Rangers | 36 | 78 | 2.17 | 22 | 0.61 |
| 05-06 | Rangers | 36 | 67 | 1.86 | 37 | 1.03 |
| 08-09 | Blues | 46 | 54 | 1.17 | 37 | 0.80 |
| 09-10 | Blues | 38 | 38 | 1.00 | 47 | 1.24 |
| 10-11 | Blues | 38 | 37 | 0.97 | 58 | 1.53 |
| 11-12 | Villa | 30 | 33 | 1.10 | 42 | 1.40 |
| 512 | 796 | 1.55 | 577 | 1.13 |
Name one manager who'd have accepted the job given those constraits?I have always said he has to be given time.It took balls for himto accept the job? Sorry Nigel but that kind of nonsense gets my goat. It's like saying it takes balls to win the lottery. He's on two million quid a year, more than most will earn in an entire lifetime. His PL credibility was non-existent, I can't imagine any other PL club touching him with a bargepole, and he gets offered a lifeline. And the worst he'll endure is a bit of abuse and then eventually the sack. I bet he pisses himslef laughing when he hears about people feeling sorry for him.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
You were looking at the likes of McLaren I doubt if even Steve Bruce would have come.
The only option, which was what I wanted, was to promote within the club. An option which many didn't want.
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I'd probably go for McNeill as number 1.worst Villa bosses since 1982
1st - Graham Turner
2nd - Billy McNeill
3rd - Alex McLeish
Venglos gets a sympathetic exclusion, even if in an Ivo Stas letter home, he claimed Doug Ellis approached him at a bus stop in Prague and offered him the Villa job.
Doug had this weird notion that foreign managers were going to be the thing of the future .
I saw the following on the BBC web site. Talk about stating the obvious, he's just a joke.
"Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish is understandably concerned about his team's descent towards the Premier League relegation zone. "I don't think I have ever not been worried this season, he told Mirror Football. "We have to look to get to at least 40 points. That is the target I'd be giving to the players and get to that target as quickly as possible."
In his defence, and to add a degree of balance, McLeish:
- showed a lot of balls crossing the city
- is acting as a lightening rod to deflect negative comments away from the players
- has won things as a manager and was a relative success with Scotland (he even won something with Blues)
- is clearly in charge at a time of very limited funding when our better players (Young, Downing) were sold and replaced by less able players. Also he's inherited someone else's squad without the option of putting his stamp on it.
Thanks for the data, Paul.
Interesting to see that his much vaunted defensive qualities have never made it south of the border.
- is clearly in charge at a time of very limited funding when our better players (Young, Downing) were sold and replaced by less able players. Also he's inherited someone else's squad without the option of putting his stamp on it.
I'm not totally disagreeing with you Kt, and you're right, I don't know for sure the constraints, but to be fair it doesn't take a genious to roughly work out the constraints that were placed.Name one manager who'd have accepted the job given those constraits?I have always said he has to be given time.It took balls for himto accept the job? Sorry Nigel but that kind of nonsense gets my goat. It's like saying it takes balls to win the lottery. He's on two million quid a year, more than most will earn in an entire lifetime. His PL credibility was non-existent, I can't imagine any other PL club touching him with a bargepole, and he gets offered a lifeline. And the worst he'll endure is a bit of abuse and then eventually the sack. I bet he pisses himslef laughing when he hears about people feeling sorry for him.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
You were looking at the likes of McLaren I doubt if even Steve Bruce would have come.
The only option, which was what I wanted, was to promote within the club. An option which many didn't want.
I don't know for sure who would have taken the job or what the constraints were exactly, neither do you. But if you think no decent managers would have been interested in the privilege of managing the Villa for 2 m a year then you're living in la-la land. Off the top of my head I'd guess Hughes would have jumped at the chance, and Jol might have been interested (he's hardly had bucketloads to spend at Fulham). Sven too, whatever you think of him, has a much better record than AM. Curbishley probably, although not particularly inspiring, still a much better record than Eck.
Later in the season I'b be fairly sure Hodgson would have come as well if we'd booted FEckwit out at the right time. Plus just about any up and coming coach would have been interested, probably Chris Hughton for one.
Fact is we could have taken any coach from anywhere for a 10th of the cost and they could hardly have done a worse job.
Regardless of who elsse may or may not have taken the job on, it still didn't take any "balls" to be made an instant multi millionaire in exchange for a bit of pressure and a bit of flak, both of which he could mitigate if was actually up to the job.
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You beat me to it LovejoyI saw the following on the BBC web site. Talk about stating the obvious, he's just a joke.
"Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish is understandably concerned about his team's descent towards the Premier League relegation zone. "I don't think I have ever not been worried this season, he told Mirror Football. "We have to look to get to at least 40 points. That is the target I'd be giving to the players and get to that target as quickly as possible."
he's in a no win situation; say nothing and he's running scared, criticise the players and he's lost the dressing room, criticise himself and he' lost confidence, say something obvious and gets comments like yours.
ROBBO: 2 points short of safety in 16th? If 5 are going down this season we really are in the shit.
You beat me to it LovejoyI saw the following on the BBC web site. Talk about stating the obvious, he's just a joke.
"Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish is understandably concerned about his team's descent towards the Premier League relegation zone. "I don't think I have ever not been worried this season, he told Mirror Football. "We have to look to get to at least 40 points. That is the target I'd be giving to the players and get to that target as quickly as possible."
he's in a no win situation; say nothing and he's running scared, criticise the players and he's lost the dressing room, criticise himself and he' lost confidence, say something obvious and gets comments like yours.
Fact is Villa are near crap, looking at the Blackburn game last night and in spite of the fact they lost they put up one hell of a fight and you could make a good case for saying they deserved at least a point, I don't see that kind of spirit anywhere in Villa at this time.
Re Lambert and Rodgers, similar things were being aid about Phil Brown a few years ago and even Golloway last season. Also George Burley when he had a good first PL season with Ipswich - followed by relegation and oblivion. I do like the way they try to play proper football though.
Re Lambert and Rodgers, similar things were being aid about Phil Brown a few years ago and even Golloway last season. Also George Burley when he had a good first PL season with Ipswich - followed by relegation and oblivion. I do like the way they try to play proper football though.
You'd hope that this is where the benefit of the coaching badges comes in though. Lambert chose to do his badges in Germany because he felt they produced better managers and Rodgers has been working for years in the back ground learning from the likes of Mourinho. My point is, with Lambert and Rodgers is that they have both taken a lot of time studying the games so they should have technical nous as well as some good motivational skills. With that combination of skills I think you're more likely to succeed long term.
The point being it's a little too early to tell, so either Lambert or Rodgers would be something of a gamble right now. Not to say we shouldn't take it, just that we're not guaranteed the next Wenger/Ferguson/Mourinho, as some seem to like to portray them.
That's a good shout.
Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?
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What about that 'next big thing' at Wigan... what's his name...
That's a good shout.
Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?
What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.
That's a good shout.
Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?
What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.
What about that 'next big thing' at Wigan... what's his name...
That's a good shout.
Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?
What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.
My preference would be to take a risk on one of the up and coming managers - solskjear, poyet, atkins, McDermott - but on the proviso that they are primarily the first team coach and another person is appointed to build a proper footballing structure at the club.
That's a good shout.
Lambert and Rodgers will be very much in demand right now, so maybe our better path is to source the next omne coming through early?
What about Brian McDermott at Reading? Seems to be doing a great job and comes across really well when ive seen him interviewed.
My preference would be to take a risk on one of the up and coming managers - solskjear, poyet, atkins, McDermott - but on the proviso that they are primarily the first team coach and another person is appointed to build a proper footballing structure at the club.
*shudders*What about that 'next big thing' at Wigan... what's his name...
Didn't we already sign him for £3.5m and £60k a week?
I'm all for that, but would be concerned about who the club would appoint to that position. Houllier should have been offered such a role.
I have always said he has to be given time.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
They’re talking about us on talksport drive time in a bit. Asking if AM is taking us down?Oh goody!! No doubt it will be all the fans fault
Can anbody find out what the table was this time last year, because I think our saving grace will be the likes of Wolves, Bolton & Blackburn being even worse.
I do know blues finished on 39 points, that would see us safe, but will we win 2 more games? (how fucking depressing is that last sentence.)
Can anbody find out what the table was this time last year, because I think our saving grace will be the likes of Wolves, Bolton & Blackburn being even worse.
I do know blues finished on 39 points, that would see us safe, but will we win 2 more games? (how fucking depressing is that last sentence.)
Can anbody find out what the table was this time last year, because I think our saving grace will be the likes of Wolves, Bolton & Blackburn being even worse.
I do know blues finished on 39 points, that would see us safe, but will we win 2 more games? (how fucking depressing is that last sentence.)
Really not pretty reading is it!? How on earth are our board not acting? It is beyond incompetent.It was beyond incompetent to employ the Pratt
Can anbody find out what the table was this time last year, because I think our saving grace will be the likes of Wolves, Bolton & Blackburn being even worse.
I do know blues finished on 39 points, that would see us safe, but will we win 2 more games? (how fucking depressing is that last sentence.)
Here's how it looked on April 16th 2011 so basically a couple of games on from now:
14 Birmingham Played 32 Points - 38
15 Sunderland Played 33 Points - 38
16 Blackburn Played 33 Points - 35
17 Wigan Played 33 Points - 34
18 Blackpool Played 33 Points - 33
19 West Ham Played 33 Points - 32
20 Wolverhampton Played 32 Points - 32
Points of note... we will struggle to match their 32 game points tally given our next two fixtures. They were 5 points clear of the drop in mid April, we are currently also 5 points clear but based on the fixtures of the clubs involved we are likely to be closer by the 16th. I am very, very worried. We have a game in hand but so did Blues in Mid-April.
?I have always said he has to be given time.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
This.
?I have always said he has to be given time.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
This.
As long as we finish above 3 of the 5 teams below us, I don't really care at the moment.
If by reassess you mean sack then I agree.As long as we finish above 3 of the 5 teams below us, I don't really care at the moment.
Same for me. Avoid relegation and reassess the situation.
If by reassess you mean sack then I agree.As long as we finish above 3 of the 5 teams below us, I don't really care at the moment.
Same for me. Avoid relegation and reassess the situation.
That is frighteningIf by reassess you mean sack then I agree.As long as we finish above 3 of the 5 teams below us, I don't really care at the moment.
Same for me. Avoid relegation and reassess the situation.
Whatever needs to be done. I honestly don't think, regardless of whether we stay up or go down, that McLeish is going anywhere. He'll still be a Villa Park next season.
I cannot think of one positive thing he has done to take us forward. It is negativity piled on top of negativity, I just want him gone. In fact if I win the Euro millions lotto I will offer to pay him off if Randy cant afford to.
I cannot think of one positive thing he has done to take us forward. It is negativity piled on top of negativity, I just want him gone. In fact if I win the Euro millions lotto I will offer to pay him off if Randy cant afford to.
Much appreciated. Make sure and buy that ticket!!
Nope - agreed that his transfer policy is the least he can be criticised for. It's what he does with them when he gets them.
Nope - agreed that his transfer policy is the least he can be criticised for. It's what he does with them when he gets them.
Ah ::)?I have always said he has to be given time.
I do feel it was the wrong move by Randy, an unpopular choice with very little chance of success given the constraints he'd have to work under.
But, he still came, despite all the constraints, that took some balls. And I feel that is the reason why he must be given time, not endless, but he must have the chance to build his team and not be expected to be using MO'Ns players 5 years on.
Personally I'd say until Christmas next season. By then his team should be in place and if we're struggling then maybe that will be the time for Randy to decide.
This.
He agrees with you.
p.s. Who the hell selected YES???
I have no faith in him. I was willing to give him a chance at the start of the season which I did and he couldnt have asked for an easier start to try and get as many points as possible to avoid the mess we are in now but he clearly failed. Not to mention his dire tactics and excuses of recent. Im worried what will happen if he is given the funds to stengthen.You're worried what might happen if he's given funds to strngthen?
p.s. Who the hell selected YES???
I have no faith in him. I was willing to give him a chance at the start of the season which I did and he couldnt have asked for an easier start to try and get as many points as possible to avoid the mess we are in now but he clearly failed. Not to mention his dire tactics and excuses of recent. Im worried what will happen if he is given the funds to stengthen.I did.
p.s. Who the hell selected YES???
p.s. Who the hell selected YES???
People who happen to have a different opinion to you perhaps?
It is still allowed, even under this government.