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Title: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 01, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
0-0.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: j66acd on April 01, 2012, 05:16:02 PM
Liverpool are shite, we are shite. So it will be a great game and finish 3-3.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 01, 2012, 05:17:32 PM
If he calls Liverpool an elite club after their performance (or non-performance) this season I will not be responsible for my actions.*

As it happens, I think we have a small chance as it'll be interesting to see who can out-shite the other. I'm going for a 0-0 win.

*If you see a frightened squirrel or two around Edinburgh Meadows, you know who did it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 01, 2012, 05:20:03 PM
No joy here 3-1 to Liverpool.

Big call for McLeish, there's only 48 hours from this to the Stoke game. Does he put out a weakened team to save some for the Stoke game?

Whether he does, we'll probably lose and he'll get panned for it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on April 01, 2012, 05:21:26 PM
It will be a close game in terms of the score line but I don't think we will muster up more than 2 or 3 chances. Which Eck will eventually say was our fair shot to win the game and _______ bottled it.

2-1 Liverpool, sadly :-[
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on April 01, 2012, 05:24:11 PM
4 0 to Liverpool. Same old shit spouted by our manager after the game
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 01, 2012, 05:26:15 PM
Liverpool have really struggled against shit teams, so we might have a chance.

Also the fact that they will be without Reina, meaning that 'Doni' or whatever is name is will have to be in goal, gives us a massive advantage.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 01, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Liverpool have really struggled against shit teams, so we might have a chance.

Also the fact that they will be without Reina, meaning that 'Doni' or whatever is name is will have to be in goal gives us a massive advantage.

Not really. I could be in goal for all the shots on target we tend to have in a match.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 01, 2012, 05:29:53 PM
4-1 to Liverpool.

'We're not in their class' type comments, post-match from Eckycunt.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on April 01, 2012, 05:30:23 PM
We have little to fear from that lot, but just like Mr Torres, Liverpool need to get their season back on track.....  Go there for a draw we'll come unstuck, have a go we might get a draw.   

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 01, 2012, 05:33:36 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 01, 2012, 05:37:36 PM
Keep them quiet for the first 20 minutes and we can have all 3 points.

1-0 Villa
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 01, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Well it will be mostly kids again I guess. But then we did lift the Youth Cup at Anfield in 1972.

FC Racist 1 Villa Youth 2.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on April 01, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
Can't see them playing so bad again,but it is a week before cup semi,so maybe they'll have one eye on that. We have a poor record up there though,two nil them,but hopefully Downing will pick an injury ( nothing serious) and miss the semi final,rest of season. euros.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on April 01, 2012, 05:43:10 PM
3-0 defeat
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on April 01, 2012, 05:44:51 PM
I've got a feeling that if we go with the same starting eleven as yesterday and go at them like Wigan did (they don't like it up 'em). We could win this one. 2-1 The Villa
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on April 01, 2012, 05:46:12 PM
You just know the geordie donkey will get a brace in this one.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 01, 2012, 05:50:24 PM
The leagues two form teams. We'll lose it sadly.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on April 01, 2012, 05:55:21 PM
Any other team would relish this game, going to Anfield against a fragile Liverpool team, attacking and them falling apart, however we'll go there set up for a draw and be 1 down after 4 minutes, 2 down after 13 minutes and 3 down just before half time, after a rousing half time team talk we'll come out and draw the second half 0-0, job done! 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on April 01, 2012, 05:57:01 PM
cant see us getting anything here,2-0 to them
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on April 01, 2012, 05:57:39 PM
2-1 Liverpool.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on April 01, 2012, 06:06:33 PM
It's often been said that teams in the middle of a poor run love to play Villa.  I can't see this being any different, and think we'll lose 3-0.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 01, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
Got a horrible feeling that Caroll will get a hat-trick.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on April 01, 2012, 06:13:42 PM
No joy here 3-1 to Liverpool.

Big call for McLeish, there's only 48 hours from this to the Stoke game. Does he put out a weakened team to save some for the Stoke game?

Whether he does, we'll probably lose and he'll get panned for it.

From the look of the team and the bench yesterday (including 16 year old Jack Grealish!), I don't think he's got much choice about a weakened team or otherwise. In defence Hutton, Dunne and Clark are still out, but hopefully Carlos will come in for Baker; in midfield N'Zogbia and obviously Stan are out (not to mention Delph and Makoun!); up front Bent is out for the rest of the season. So I think we're more or less down to the team picking itself much along the lines of yesterday's line up. Think Liverpool's midfield will dominate ours and we'll lose by a couple.

Given that we're this season's calling point for breaking unwanted stats (Albion winning at VP since McGrath knows when, Torres scoring a league goal, 6 trillion corners won without scoring from one, 6 trillion corners conceded and a goal conceded every time etc) you can more or less guarantee that their goals will come from the pony-tailed one, the weasel and the racist.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on April 01, 2012, 06:21:07 PM
Sack it off and target Stoke
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on April 01, 2012, 06:24:49 PM
I'm not prone to trying to predict a result as I always get it wrong,  so I'm going for 10-0 to Liverpool.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on April 01, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
To be honest I have pretty much written off the Liverpool and United trips and looked at the Stoke, Sunderland and Bolton games to get wins. If AM is going to go into the Liverpool game with his negative tactics he might as well play the kids and rest the seniors for Stoke. What is the point making players play twice in two days if tactically you aren't trying to win the first one.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on April 01, 2012, 06:30:50 PM
If you're having a bad run we're just the team to play to get you out of it 3-0 to the dippers.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on April 01, 2012, 06:40:30 PM
Struggling teams and struggling strikers - Villa are always their redemption.  3-0 to Liverpool with Caroll getting at least one and probably hamster bollocks his first PL goal for them as well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fernando Partridge on April 01, 2012, 06:59:11 PM
2-1 win a penalty each and goal from a corner finally!
Hesketh brought in 5 man midfield bannan ireland gardner
albrighton and gabby on flanks.
Fired up hesketh to do busineth!
I bite my tounge
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 01, 2012, 07:17:34 PM
Any other team would relish this game, going to Anfield against a fragile Liverpool team, attacking and them falling apart, however we'll go there set up for a draw and be 1 down after 4 minutes, 2 down after 13 minutes and 3 down just before half time, after a rousing half time team talk we'll come out and draw the second half 0-0, job done! 

And a team that has a cup semi final the following week. I suspect you are spot on unfortunately, you can just close your eyes and see it now!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on April 01, 2012, 07:22:14 PM
Liverpool 1 - Villa 4 (Weimann, Gardner, Bannan x2)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 01, 2012, 07:34:53 PM
Liverpool 1 - Villa 4 (Weimann, Gardner, Bannan x2)
You missed out the "April fool"
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rotterdam on April 01, 2012, 07:35:36 PM
3-0 romp in the park for them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on April 01, 2012, 07:35:59 PM
Will Reina be banned from this game after his red card today?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 01, 2012, 07:37:37 PM
I believe so, unless there is a successful appeal.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 01, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
Will Reina be banned from this game after his red card today?
Does it matter?

They could play without a keeper and we still wouldn't win.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 01, 2012, 07:38:44 PM
Will Reina be banned from this game after his red card today?

Yes, it will be the 3rd of 3 a game ban according to a chap on R5.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on April 01, 2012, 07:39:46 PM
Well assuming we get forward enough to have some shots at goal his absence should improve our chances.
I'll be delighted with a point.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 01, 2012, 07:40:13 PM
I'd be bloody overjoyed.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nigel on April 01, 2012, 07:45:21 PM
No joy here 3-1 to Liverpool.

Big call for McLeish, there's only 48 hours from this to the Stoke game. Does he put out a weakened team to save some for the Stoke game?

Whether he does, we'll probably lose and he'll get panned for it.
I don't think he has much choice selection wise anyway.
Liverpool aren't doing much at the moment so, as our luck is going, they'll spring to form vrs us.
We have to go for it and also hope Stoke are dreaming of next season.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 01, 2012, 07:48:58 PM
Fuck I hate predicting us to lose. I can see an early goal and then it all going shit shapd from that point on. 3-0 to them.

I so hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on April 01, 2012, 08:01:36 PM
Sack it off and target Stoke

Why?  Liverpool have lost about five of their last six matches.  Wigan and QPR have beaten them recently.  They're the eighth best team in England. Let's get up there and heap pressure on them - there's absolutely no excuses for a spineless performance against that lot of over-hyped chancers.  We get in their faces and go for it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on April 01, 2012, 08:10:32 PM
Sack it off and target Stoke

Why?  Liverpool have lost about five of their last six matches.  Wigan and QPR have beaten them recently.  They're the eighth best team in England. Let's get up there and heap pressure on them - there's absolutely no excuses for a spineless performance against that lot of over-hyped chancers.  We get in their faces and go for it.
We know it but does McClueless
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on April 01, 2012, 08:19:26 PM
If we can't get a point against this rabble we must be bad.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 01, 2012, 08:23:13 PM
Will Reina be banned from this game after his red card today?

Yes, it will be the 3rd of 3 a game ban according to a chap on R5.

How many matches are Liverpool playing next week then before our match next Saturday?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: woody4866 on April 01, 2012, 08:38:54 PM
If you team cant buy a win
If your strikers cant score goals
If you dont have your regular goalkeeper
If the crowds on your back
If the Chairman is beginning to ask questions

who do you want to play??

thats right - the Villa

2 - 0 to the red scouse
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on April 01, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
You can put up a good case for us getting something from this game, and then you think about our manager and hope dissapears 3 0 to them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: scoobydoobydont on April 01, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
If you team cant buy a win
If your strikers cant score goals
If you dont have your regular goalkeeper
If the crowds on your back
If the Chairman is beginning to ask questions

who do you want to play??

thats right - the Villa

2 - 0 to the red scouse


....with downing getting the winner... :'(
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 01, 2012, 09:02:36 PM
You can put up a good case for us getting something from this game, and then you think about our manager and hope dissapears 3 0 to them.
This I'm afraid
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on April 01, 2012, 09:22:56 PM
If I were Ku Kux Kenny, I would pick myself and score a fucking hat-trick.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 01, 2012, 09:31:40 PM
Tanked 3-0
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Eigentor on April 01, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
They can't score. Our defence isn't all that bad without Dunne (allthough we need Cuellar back).

Their midfield is quite weak, so they won't capitalize on our achilles heal.

We showed this weekend that we can score goals if we set our mind to it.

I'm guessing 1-1 and that may be pessimistic as Liverpool are truly shite at the moment.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on April 01, 2012, 09:40:21 PM
It's certainly a game we should be looking to take points from, just hope dopey bollocks feels the same way. On another note, can someone going to the game do me a favour? Could you give a load of shit to that goofy little c**t they call a striker?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on April 01, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
I have to be positive, 0-1
We are more desperate than them also we might get an honest ref who can spot Stevie G doing the dying swan.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 01, 2012, 10:25:48 PM
According to MOTD they have a worse record in 2012 than us, why can't we go there and play them off the park?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 01, 2012, 11:06:49 PM
We will invoke the spirit of '38 by refusing to give the Nazi salute.

Sadly this will provoke a hostile Klanfield atmosphere and enrage Grandmaster Suarez who will get a hat-trick.

3-0 to the racists.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LamBeast on April 01, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
This could potentially be the biggest laugh of the season. ;D

We are tripe but they are no better.

Hope springs eternal! :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 01, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
No joy here 3-1 to Liverpool.

Big call for McLeish, there's only 48 hours from this to the Stoke game. Does he put out a weakened team to save some for the Stoke game?

Whether he does, we'll probably lose and he'll get panned for it.
'Put out a weakened team'?
Has he got much choice?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 01, 2012, 11:24:32 PM
Tanked 3-0
...and how many times has that happened against them? Loads of times is the answer.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on April 01, 2012, 11:51:50 PM
According to MOTD they have a worse record in 2012 than us, why can't we go there and play them off the park?

Because we Have a manager called McLeish when was the last time any of his teams played anyone off the park?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on April 01, 2012, 11:57:24 PM
They're shit at the moment. We should give them a good game and have the chance to get at least a point. Unless they are still an elite club in eighth place, of course and we attempt to role up the drawbridge as per.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on April 02, 2012, 12:01:07 AM
I can see it now..

McLeish on BBC WM, "Well, when you spend that much money in the summer you expect to beat the likes of Aston Villa. I had to field an inexperienced eleven, we have to be realistic."
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ROBBO on April 02, 2012, 01:19:23 AM
We have a massive opportunity to get KD the sack.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on April 02, 2012, 03:21:43 AM
They will beat us with a lucky goal, 1-0 and I hope to God it is not downing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on April 02, 2012, 04:05:50 AM
Albrighton on field, Heskey in the paddock - 3-2 Villa
Heskey on the field, Albrighton calling agent - 2-0 FC Racists
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on April 02, 2012, 04:12:37 AM
Not confident at all, can't see them losing 4 in a row even we're not that shit.

3 - 1 loss.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on April 02, 2012, 06:12:05 AM
In the beginning, when we were winning & our smiles are genuine.

3 - 1 to the FC Racists.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on April 02, 2012, 07:17:15 AM
The manager will bottle it once more which will result in the inevitable.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maigrait on April 02, 2012, 09:14:19 AM
i'm sensing 1-0 to the scousers.... clowning to score the winner...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on April 02, 2012, 09:38:55 AM
I really would like to win this one.
So, just for a rare moment this season, can fate not shit in our Bovril please?

I dont care how it happens: If the ball deflects off a Heron, or a freak tornado carries the ball home or even more unlikely - if Heskey scores the winner, as long as it happens.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on April 02, 2012, 09:50:21 AM
Defensively we are poor and have no protection from midfield.
We are now leaking goals and have conceded 7 goals in 2 games.

3 - 0 to the racists.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on April 02, 2012, 10:01:58 AM
When a team is low on confidence and form, as they are right now, then they must be delighted to see us next up.  If they score early we'll get a thumping, but the longer we can keep them out the more the crowd will get on their backs.

0-0 or 3-0 to them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Merv on April 02, 2012, 10:03:59 AM
They're playing better than results suggest but are obviously struggling... if we go there with a positive approach, we could get something out of this. Us scoring the first goal would make things very interesting.

Definitely not a game to wait until the hour mark to get moving.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 02, 2012, 10:09:43 AM
for the first 20 minutes yesterday they were far better than Newcastle.  Newcastle score due to some poor defending and they fall apart.  If we show some spirit like we did Saturday we might get something.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 02, 2012, 10:27:01 AM
3-0 to the scouse rats
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on April 02, 2012, 10:28:15 AM
We're the sort of team other out of form teams and players would love to play at the moment.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on April 02, 2012, 10:44:58 AM
3-0 to the home team and Andy Carroll, Gerrard and Suarez to score.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on April 02, 2012, 10:47:48 AM
We need to be positive, which is shame given our manager's outlook. Liverpool have proved they are no great shakes and have been awful at Anfield. Their confidence is hardly going to be sky high which is why we must look to get at them so the crowd turns and makes them edgy. We all know this as Wigan proved it two weeks ago. We also know McCleish will set us up to lose, we give away an early goal and end up gifting them the points before going on to get beat by a Crouch header on Monday.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on April 02, 2012, 11:17:01 AM
Lawro on 5Live this morning.........'Kenny wont walk out on the club neither will the board sack him'.
I wonder what made him come out and say that today? Could the natives be getting restless? And of course he has never walked out on them before.......oh just a minute.
Lawro then went on to say that it's the players faults that they have lost 8 games this year and some of them aren't giving enough. He named Carrol, Adam and Downing as prime suspects. Anybody know who signed those three?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on April 02, 2012, 11:21:37 AM
No Reina, Liverpool are playing as bad us, i fancy a point!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on April 02, 2012, 11:22:47 AM
3 - 1 to them. Carroll to score.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villanic on April 02, 2012, 11:46:43 AM
I’m worried about this one, they are looking to hammer someone to end their shit run and we are having to rely on a lot of youngster at the moment.

If we do take a battering on Saturday it might knock any remaining confidence right out of us for the rest of the season.

3-0 to them. Carroll to do a Torres and end his drought. Really hope I’m wrong though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on April 02, 2012, 12:06:56 PM
Lawro on 5Live this morning.........'Kenny wont walk out on the club neither will the board sack him'.
I wonder what made him come out and say that today? Could the natives be getting restless? And of course he has never walked out on them before.......oh just a minute.
Lawro then went on to say that it's the players faults that they have lost 8 games this year and some of them aren't giving enough. He named Carrol, Adam and Downing as prime suspects. Anybody know who signed those three?

I think some of the natives are getting restless but the majority still have faith in burger king kenny.  Their aim was top 4 and they have failed miserably.  He has wasted money on average players with his best signings being Suarez and Enrique. 
Kenny is bullet proof.  Had this happened if hodgson was in charge then all hell would have broke loose.Anyway, better not make this a King Kenny thread.  back to topic.....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on April 02, 2012, 12:42:05 PM
Wounded Liverpool after yesterday, they will come out firing.
Men against boys again I'm afraid.
4-0.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 02, 2012, 01:31:43 PM
If Wigwam can go there and get a result, then so can we.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on April 02, 2012, 01:45:40 PM
Both teams are on their arses. The difference is that Liverpool have some right cheating wankers in their team, which will be well documented come 5 o'clock on Saturday. That and the fact that they have a better side of course.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on April 02, 2012, 02:13:51 PM
If Wigwam can go there and get a result, then so can we.

Wigwam are playing with a lot more confidence than us and their performances of recent havent been that bad (from what the journo's and pundits are saying)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mark H on April 02, 2012, 03:01:37 PM
We will set out in a negative formation - trying to get the 0-0 our manager seems to crave away , however like we seem to do very regularly we will help a striker who cannot buy a goal score - so Carrol will be ok

I think we will lose 2-0
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on April 02, 2012, 03:29:48 PM
I've gone for an optimistic draw again!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on April 02, 2012, 03:44:03 PM
Liverpool are in poor form, they're in the same kind of meltdown that Villa are going through, they are racked with inconsistency, players are snapping, the money that Dalgliesh has spent looks wasted, I think we are at a defining moment, more so than I've seen Villa at for a generation, looking at the fixtures coming up I think we can win this and we really need to win this because games are running out.

The Blackburn game tonight is crucial to us, we really need Manure to hammer them.

Liverpool look crap to me, I think we can win this.

2-1 to Villa..... 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on April 02, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
Hate to make a case for the Bindipping thieves but their performances have been OK, the results have been utterly shite - reminds me of us in the dying throes of BFR era, underachiverers and favourites being picked regardless of form.
Our performances have been way below what we can achieve (odd few minutes here and there) and the results have mirrored that.
See a comfortable 3-1 for them to get them - just based on the way I expect our manager will approach it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RunRickyRun on April 02, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
If Wigwam can go there and get a result, then so can we.

Wigan have been playing great stuff in the last few weeks. Even before their two wins, they could have scored 5 each against Norwich and Albion.

Liverpool create chances and with our defending I think they'll score 3 very soft goals to nil.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 02, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
Another GIANT. I know Liverpool are shit but no doubt Alex will be pleased with a 2-0 after all that is not a disgrace at Anfield.
Any struggling club needing a tonic can relish the thought of a team led by AM visiting them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 02, 2012, 06:42:26 PM
The wanker will score , you just know it.
 Oh they have a lot of wankers , downing I mean.


Carroll to come on and get the third with Gerrard between the 3 .

3-0 defeat
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 02, 2012, 06:42:57 PM
Im going to hate this game , I F**KING HATE LIVERPOOL
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 02, 2012, 06:43:18 PM
If Wigwam can go there and get a result, then so can we.

Wigan have been playing great stuff in the last few weeks. Even before their two wins, they could have scored 5 each against Norwich and Albion.

Liverpool create chances and with our defending I think they'll score 3 very soft goals to nil.

Wigan are shite. If they can get a result st the Dipperdome, then so can we.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 02, 2012, 06:59:40 PM

Any struggling club needing a tonic can relish the thought of a team led by AM visiting them.
Yep , Blues got stuffed 5-0 up there last year
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wombat on April 02, 2012, 07:53:47 PM
Struggling to get a win?
Your over priced star striker not scored since black and white telly?
Need an easy Cup tie passage?
Makeshift defence need a clean sheet?
Your goalkeeper suspend and his understudy in need of an easy ride?
Not scored from a corner for a while?

Need a shot shy, toothless, tactically inept, lacklustre team with a shoddy formation and players playing way out of position?

Please organise fixtures with A McLeish, Birmingham B6.

An sadly easy Liverpool victory, just as King Kenny (whaaaaaaaaaaanker) requires.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on April 02, 2012, 08:22:08 PM
Balls to it.  A hard-fought 2-1 away win.  They've nothing to motivate them in the league and will have one eye on Wembley next week.

Besides, they're shit.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 02, 2012, 08:38:52 PM
If the season started on 1 jan, both teams would be bottom 3. Can't see us getting anything out of this because I can't really see us scoring.

Given - Hutton, Collins, cuellar, lichaj - ireland, herd, gardner - albrighton, gabby, heskey

My god that teams shit!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on April 02, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
This is the game that Liverpool need at the moment to get them going again and we will just roll over and let them... no contest an easy win for Liverpool!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on April 02, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Ok anybody know if any of the kids we've had on our bench recently is a pacey winger? If so i'd be tempted to throw them in and go 4-3-3 with him and Marc on the wings, Gabby up top and a midfield 3 of Herd, Gardner and Ireland.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 02, 2012, 09:14:39 PM
We'll match them for half an hour and then get a dodgy sending off/penalty against and lose 3-4 nil. Then the media will conveniently forget about the dodgy refereeing decisions.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 02, 2012, 09:44:33 PM
Ok anybody know if any of the kids we've had on our bench recently is a pacey winger? If so i'd be tempted to throw them in and go 4-3-3 with him and Marc on the wings, Gabby up top and a midfield 3 of Herd, Gardner and Ireland.

I was thinking about a similar line up earlier, although i'd go for Bannan instead of Gardner.

As for pacey wingers, there's Carruthers but i'm not sure he's ready yet and Daniel Johnson. It might be being a bit too much to ask to throw one of those in at Anfield, so Heskey it is then.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on April 02, 2012, 11:38:56 PM
Win this one and the game in hand and we are only three points behind them.

Both teams have currently lost the same number of league games this season. Liverpool have only won 5 of 15 at home. Heskey cost less than one tenth of the fee paid for Carroll.

Reina is due an own goal, it's been a while. I hope he appeals and is not be suspended. If he is it we be a case of players always scoring against their old teams.

Liverpool 1 (Downing) Aston Villa 2 (Warnock 2)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on April 03, 2012, 12:36:53 AM
As much as I would love to turn them over, we are probably sending the weakest squad up there for a long long time. Liverpool are not a great team, you dont need to be a great team to beat us in our current plight. I hope Carlos is back and Mcliesh picks the right team and formation, if he dosent it could be very ugly.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on April 03, 2012, 12:59:05 AM
Ok anybody know if any of the kids we've had on our bench recently is a pacey winger? If so i'd be tempted to throw them in and go 4-3-3 with him and Marc on the wings, Gabby up top and a midfield 3 of Herd, Gardner and Ireland.

I was thinking about a similar line up earlier, although i'd go for Bannan instead of Gardner.

As for pacey wingers, there's Carruthers but i'm not sure he's ready yet and Daniel Johnson. It might be being a bit too much to ask to throw one of those in at Anfield, so Heskey it is then.
Emiles my left back.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 03, 2012, 01:03:55 AM
Will Reina be banned from this game after his red card today?

Yes, it will be the 3rd of 3 a game ban according to a chap on R5.

Eh? They're playing twice before they meet us on Sat?! First of a 3 game ban surely. Anyway, the important thing is the bald racist is out.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on April 03, 2012, 06:42:58 AM
Given, Hutton, Lichaj, Collins, Cuellar, Herd, Warnock, Ireland, Albrighton, Bannan, Gabby for me.

Then cross all fingers that we don't get injuries. Depending on the scoreline at 60 minutes, I would be tempted to get Gabby, Ireland off and a couple of the kids on to protect them for Stoke 48 hours later.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on April 03, 2012, 07:50:00 AM
Here's McLueless's pre-match motivational speech - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/02/liverpool-dismal-league-campaign.
Not that there's been much evidence thus far that he can deliver such a thing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 03, 2012, 09:02:31 AM

Reina is due an own goal, it's been a while. I hope he appeals and is not be suspended. If he is it we be a case of players always scoring against their old teams.


I'm rather hoping that Reina won't be playing - surely even Thieverpool can't get that overturned.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 03, 2012, 09:15:36 AM
Anyone know why the stoke game is a 5.30 kick off? I thought it must be on tv but neither sky or espn are showing the match so it seems a strange choice of kick off time.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 03, 2012, 09:35:46 AM
ESPN
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 03, 2012, 09:53:28 AM
Not on TV. They play in the late game Saturday and have to have 48 hours between games.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on April 03, 2012, 09:54:04 AM
Our fairytale writing for clubs and players in distress will see us rollover, and the press to laud Kenny as being the saviour at 'pool again.

I think we could actually win if we pushed them, but we will go there playing for a draw and give them so much space that people will think Downing is worth £20 million. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on April 03, 2012, 11:45:29 AM
All I'd ask for is a team that is set up to play tight, aggressively and passionately.
For a team whose players are playing in their preferred position.
For a team that really believes it can grind out some points away from home.
For a team that plays to its strengths.
For a team that realises that the opposition are very much beatable.

We have lacked these characteristics throughout the season ...
Liverscouse are there for the taking but I don't believe we believe we can take them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on April 03, 2012, 01:45:29 PM
According to MOTD they have a worse record in 2012 than us, why can't we go there and play them off the park?

Because we Have a manager called McLeish when was the last time any of his teams played anyone off the park?

Because McLeish will see them as an "elite" team and has already surrendered.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 03, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
Unfortunately I can see Liverpool having too much for us and Carroll is bound to net just as Torres did. Think we need to concentrate on the Stoke game.

2-0 Liverpool (Downing and Carroll)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: midnite on April 03, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
One of the "elites" of the league. I imagine we'll just roll over for this one. 3-0 defeat
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 03, 2012, 04:53:25 PM
In an act that would finally kill off any hope for McLeish being ever accepted by any living Villa fan, he will rest the entire available first team in order that they can be fresh for the Monday game with Stoke as he thinks it's more winnable.

We have a history off this with Stoke you know
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on April 03, 2012, 05:21:44 PM
Unfortunately I can see Liverpool having too much for us and Carroll is bound to net just as Torres did. Think we need to concentrate on the Stoke game.

2-0 Liverpool (Downing and Carroll)

Why concentrate on the Stoke game they're just as good as Liverpool, surely?  At least at Anfield the lads won't have the pressure of performing in front of a jittery Villa Park.  We have to go for the win at Anfield and the win at Villa Park. Liverpool and Stoke are two decent upper mid-table sides, no more and no less.
 Picking and choosing which games we will try our best in has got us into this situation in the first place.  Treating every match as equal and going for the win in each and every one would be the ideal approach for me.  The Holloways and McCarthys pick and choose their matches - say no more.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 03, 2012, 10:46:47 PM
When I meant putting out a weakened team for Liverpool and saving players for Stoke, I was thinking along the lines of Ireland being left out and us going with a midfield 4 of Gardner-Bannan-Herd-Albrighton.

I also think Weimann might be saved for Monday as I reckon his movement will cause Stoke's back 4 problems so yes the awful prospect of Heskey lumbering around the pitch to no effect whatsoever from the first minute will probably happen again.

I can see him and Gabby being the front two.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mr Diggles on April 03, 2012, 10:55:53 PM
We've taken a tonking or two in the past few years at LIverpool (with one notable exception), but I expect more of the same this Saturday. We've become the team you want to play if you're out of form.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on April 03, 2012, 11:12:52 PM
In the home game against them we were lucky to get nil. I reckon we will be 3-0 down after about 15 minutes again like when Robbie Fowler used to score for fun against us.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 04, 2012, 02:26:30 AM
[float=right](http://)[/float]Jenas (shocked look) and N'Zogbia could be back for this apparently. If both are fit I might go for a cheeky 2-1 win even though a couple of days back I thought we might be battered. Alcohol you cruel seductress.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 04, 2012, 06:08:42 AM
Unfortunately I can see Liverpool having too much for us and Carroll is bound to net just as Torres did. Think we need to concentrate on the Stoke game.

2-0 Liverpool (Downing and Carroll)

Why concentrate on the Stoke game they're just as good as Liverpool, surely?  At least at Anfield the lads won't have the pressure of performing in front of a jittery Villa Park.  We have to go for the win at Anfield and the win at Villa Park. Liverpool and Stoke are two decent upper mid-table sides, no more and no less.
 Picking and choosing which games we will try our best in has got us into this situation in the first place.  Treating every match as equal and going for the win in each and every one would be the ideal approach for me.  The Holloways and McCarthys pick and choose their matches - say no more.

Don't get me wrong I would love us to have a go at them and take them on but I do think our defence is too weak and Carroll will get plenty of service for once. Shows how low my expectations have become unfortunately...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on April 04, 2012, 07:13:30 AM
I may be wrong but there may be some significance to this match. The media and other supporters are beginning to catch on to the fct that Villa are heading for deep trouble. Clearly we'll lose at Anfield (probably by a big margin) but this time the pressure might really be on AM and RL.

But I might be clutching at straws!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tepavilla on April 04, 2012, 07:28:24 AM
Sounds like a 2-0 defeat. After the game, Liverpool fans tell how well they finally played. That is, until they face the next opponent and they realise it was just Villa making them look proper for a while
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on April 04, 2012, 07:35:22 AM
Cuellar unlikely to be fit ...chances of a win now slimmer.

As Wigan and Qpr both beat them us losing will be major dent to out survival and would show they right now we deserve relegation really .Sad times ......
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mattjpa on April 04, 2012, 07:46:55 AM
                Gabby/Weimman
Bannan        Ireland    N'zogbia/Gabby
       Gardner        Herd
Lichaj    Baker    Collins      Hutton
                    Given


For me, depending on N'Zogs fitness. Id like us to get Bannan, N'Zog and Ireland playing next to each other. Theyre the best 3 passers we have and AM needs to go for the wins now, no more of this draw BShit
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on April 04, 2012, 09:34:25 AM
Talk of Jenas being available soon, also N'Zogbia has suddenly recovered... Hmm
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 04, 2012, 09:42:24 AM
N'Zogbia and Hutton have outside chance of making Liverpool clash





I would leave the RB has it is
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on April 04, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Can't see us getting anything from this. A must win for both teams, but they have the better players and we will gift them a few goals from corners, when you have a handicap like that, you make a hard job impossible.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 04, 2012, 10:38:12 AM
I think we'll get a surprise draw. 1-1.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on April 04, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
A draw woul dbe something at least it would give us 2 wins away from the teams on 28 assumming they both lose.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 04, 2012, 11:05:31 AM
A draw woul dbe something at least it would give us 2 wins away from the teams on 28 assumming they both lose.

It would be a decent point and would give us something to build on for Stoke and our game in hand against Bolton. They're te two games where we can really secure our Premier League status. I'll be bricking it if we lose at Anfield.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on April 04, 2012, 11:08:31 AM
I think a draw would be a good result for us, but we're unlikely to get it if we play for it!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 04, 2012, 11:09:58 AM
I think a draw would be a good result for us, but we're unlikely to get it if we play for it!

We have to go out for a win.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 04, 2012, 12:24:09 PM
I think a draw would be a good result for us, but we're unlikely to get it if we play for it!

We have to go out for a win.

Try telling that to the moron in charge of the team then
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on April 04, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
JENAS?

Shocked. Good timing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on April 04, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
2-0 defeat I fear
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 04, 2012, 04:27:08 PM
Apparently, Hutton and N'Zogbia should be ready for this.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on April 04, 2012, 04:28:44 PM
N'Zogbia would be a boost but I think Lichaj deserves to keep his place over Hutton.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curlytailavfc on April 04, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
I fear Fat boy Carols gonna click one game and we will be the one
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 04, 2012, 04:42:32 PM
N'Zogbia would be a boost but I think Lichaj deserves to keep his place over Hutton.

I think so too.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 04, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Lichaj left-back?

Warnock midfield?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 04, 2012, 04:57:57 PM
We have every chance of winning this game if we actually try to win it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on April 04, 2012, 05:00:45 PM
With comments like that you get my vote for manager Damon.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 04, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
Apparently, Hutton and N'Zogbia should be ready for this.



I would save both for Stoke.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on April 04, 2012, 05:57:09 PM
Jenas probably won't be back but if he is then we need the bodies, I would keep Lichaj in as well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on April 04, 2012, 07:38:33 PM
We have every chance of winning this game if we actually try to win it.

damon: Lets really hope so, strange thing is I have more confidence in lifting the 3pts out of this one (if we go for it) than any of the immediate others fixtures following.

C'mon you Villa boys.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on April 04, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Lichaj one assist and one goal. No way can he drop him for Hutton. Think Gardner has to do a bit more to prove his talent. Hope Weimann gets more of the ball, cause he can find the net ........
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 04, 2012, 08:37:53 PM
Can't see us getting anything out of this, our defence will let in at least two surely? Baker, Collins and warnock at the back with herd as the protector. I reckon it could be at least 3-4 again.

Would play gabby supported by Ireland. And then 2 from alby, bannan and cnz wide. Not sure we have any choice but gardner and herd.

I'm afraid that team just is not premier league standard. Perhaps it will be one day, but it isn't this season. I  reckon gerrard will run absolute rings around them.

I wish I didn't know so many Liverpool fans.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on April 04, 2012, 08:44:12 PM
Gabby  to score. 1.0.   
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on April 04, 2012, 11:41:24 PM
They're shit but we're worse

We'll lose 3-1 and no doubt Carroll and Downing will both score to round off a great day
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: toplad4u on April 05, 2012, 09:34:10 AM
I got a feeling warnock will score this weekend similar to how Eric did last week.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on April 05, 2012, 09:39:03 AM
i would go for:

Given
Lichaj Collins Cuellar Warnock
N'zogbia Herd Bannan Albrighton
Ireland
Gabby
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: johncvilla88 on April 05, 2012, 11:11:05 AM
Personally wouldn't drop Wiemann he creates space from his movement. I don't like playing half fit players so probably wouldn't bring N'zogbia back till stoke. Liverpool play narrow and I expect to match them the same to prevent being overrun in the middle. I would encourage warnock to made runs like Lichaj.

Given
Lichaj Collins Cuellar Warnock
Gardner Herd Bannan
Ireland
Wiemann Gabby
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on April 05, 2012, 11:21:08 AM
Personally wouldn't drop Wiemann he creates space from his movement. I don't like playing half fit players so probably wouldn't bring N'zogbia back till stoke. Liverpool play narrow and I expect to match them the same to prevent being overrun in the middle. I would encourage warnock to made runs like Lichaj.

Given
Lichaj Collins Cuellar Warnock
Gardner Herd Bannan
Ireland
Wiemann Gabby


I did consider starting Wiemann but I beleive that he would cause more damage coming off the bench with about 25/30 to go.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 05, 2012, 12:34:53 PM
Personally wouldn't drop Wiemann he creates space from his movement. I don't like playing half fit players so probably wouldn't bring N'zogbia back till stoke. Liverpool play narrow and I expect to match them the same to prevent being overrun in the middle. I would encourage warnock to made runs like Lichaj.

Given
Lichaj Collins Cuellar Warnock
Gardner Herd Bannan
Ireland
Wiemann Gabby


I did consider starting Wiemann but I beleive that he would cause more damage coming off the bench with about 25/30 to go.

yep - and knowing our twat of a manager it will be when we are 2-0 down
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on April 05, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
I'd start Weimann. They've been shakey at the back as of late (Enrique and Skrtel have looked a bit dodgy, and Carragher hates being ran at), and they'll have Doni in goal.

Give them something to think about from the off.

Given
Lichaj - Cuellar - Collins - Warnock
Gardner - Herd - Bannan
N'Zogbia - Wiemann - Gabby

Go for it. If the midfield is too weak then change it for Stoke (Lichaj left back, Hutton right back and Warnock in midfield).
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 05, 2012, 12:41:18 PM
I think Cuellar is out so it will probably be Baker again.

I'd go..

                      Given

Lichaj   Collins   Baker    Warnock

                      Herd

           Ireland          Bannan

Carruthers                              Albrighton

                         Gabby
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on April 05, 2012, 12:42:39 PM
If Cuellar's out, Lichaj or Herd centre back?

I'd be reluctant to put Baker in the middle again just yet.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on April 05, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
If Cuellar is not fit, would Hutton make a better Centre half than a right back? Just a thought.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on April 05, 2012, 12:49:59 PM
If Cuellar's out, Lichaj or Herd centre back?

I'd be reluctant to put Baker in the middle again just yet.

Earlier in the week I'm sure I read or saw that Cuellar and N'Zog would be in contention haven't heard anything since.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on April 05, 2012, 01:56:31 PM
Weimann also struggling with Ankle injury ..
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertommykN'iba on April 05, 2012, 02:06:11 PM
----------------Given--------------------
-Lichaj--Collins--Baker--Warnock--
-------Herd--Bannan--Gardner------
--Ireland--------------Carruthers----
-----------Agbonlahor-----------------

Subs - Guzan, Hutton, Heskey, Williams, Grealish, Albrighton, Johnson.

Think that's all we've got left now? I'd like to see Carruthers and Ireland starting more behind Gabby than as Wingers. Ireland was class there at City, might as well try it at some point. No harm in being attacking.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on April 05, 2012, 02:30:59 PM
We really are down to the barebones now
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on April 05, 2012, 02:38:10 PM
Liverpool might be inconsistent currently, but they'll have too much for an injury hit Villa.

See us losing 3-1.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on April 05, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
If we can't get a point against this rabble we must be bad.

We are  :(
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on April 05, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
We are really in the shit player wise ...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on April 05, 2012, 04:21:15 PM
Oh no!  It looks like Hutton will come straight back in at the expense of Lichaj.  How to discourage a player after a good (goalscoring) performance.  Could be Heskey up front as well.  Excuse?  "We need a wee bit of experience against these big boys".  I imagine Lichaj would relish the chance of kicking Downing into the Kop.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on April 05, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
Based on nothing inpaticular I think we'll get a point here. Ireland for us and then the inevitable Downing/Carroll goal, most likely from a corner, late on followed by few minutes frantic defending but we hang on. 1-1. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on April 05, 2012, 04:45:26 PM
Downing, Carrol, Suarez, Carragher, Bellamy, Gerrard, Dalglish.... I genuinly can't remember a club ever having so many ****** on their books at any one time.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villanic on April 05, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
Downing, Carrol, Suarez, Carragher, Bellamy, Gerrard, Dalglish.... I genuinly can't remember a club ever having so many c***s on their books at any one time.

Small Heath at anyone time have more than that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa (injury news)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 05, 2012, 04:54:06 PM
Quote
Andreas Weimann has emerged as a fresh injury doubt for Villa ahead of Saturday's trip to Liverpool - but Alan Hutton looks set to return.

Weimann picked up an ankle injury in last weekends' 4-2 defeat to Chelsea at Villa Park and is unlikely to be available for the clash at Anfield.

The top-flight tussle with Kenny Dalglish's team also appears to have come too soon for Charles N'Zogbia and Carlos Cuellar, who have been on the sidelines with knee ligament and thigh problems respectively.

But there is better news for Hutton, who looks to be ready for the first part of Villa's Bank Holiday double-header.

The Scotland international full-back missed out on the Chelsea game after being forced off with an injury at Arsenal a week earlier.

He had initially been struggling with a heel injury but also developed a calf problem.

"I think Alan Hutton is looking as if he is going to be available for these couple of games," said manager Alex McLeish.

"Andi Weimann is a doubt because of the ankle injury he received last weekend and Charles N'Zogbia, as well, is a doubt.

"But we are hopeful they could be ready for at least Monday's game."
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on April 05, 2012, 04:57:16 PM
Dare I say it, how about Hutton at centre half?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on April 05, 2012, 05:05:17 PM
Hutton in for Weimann then?  And maybe Albrighton for Gardner

                        Given
          Hutton Collins Baker Lichaj
  Albrighton Ireland  Herd Warnock Bannan
                     Agbonlahor

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 05, 2012, 05:07:03 PM
He'll certainly pack the midfield.

Doubtless it will be every man behind the ball.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on April 05, 2012, 06:09:26 PM
----------------Given

----Lichaj-Collins-Baker-Warnock

Hutton-Herd-Gardner-Ireland-Heskey

----------------Gabby


...the results of a negative manager, with a negative mentality and shit tactics.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LamBeast on April 05, 2012, 06:49:20 PM
I am hanging on to Gabby like a limpet.As Captain he is our only salvation.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on April 05, 2012, 07:59:51 PM
I am hanging on to Gabby like a limpet.As Captain he is our only salvation.

Just looking at Shrek's line up just above, wow we look depleted, so many players who are still finding there feet being put into the hot cauldron of a relegation fight.

Gabby needs to step up now like never ever before, if we lose Gabby or his head drops we are surely lost. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Merv on April 05, 2012, 08:30:45 PM
He'll stick with Lichaj at RB after last weekend, won't he? But even as I type, I know the answer.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on April 05, 2012, 08:43:25 PM
Lose 3-0. We have 1 shot on goal in 90 mins. Big Eck praises the performance and says Mr. Lerner's pep talk worked wonders as he expected us to lose 6-0.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 05, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Adversity faced. Scourers smashed. Villa win.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 05, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
Adversity faced. Scourers smashed. Villa win.

Brillo!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on April 05, 2012, 09:41:02 PM
Just to let you know, that isn't the team I want, it's the one McLeish is likely to pick.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: johncvilla88 on April 05, 2012, 11:32:54 PM
Too be far shrek that probably is the best team to play. Albrighton has impressed as a sub only he seems to lack stamina. With Wiemann out the only other option would be heskey ahead of bannan. I'd probably pick Bannan as I wouldn't play him against stoke but heskey brings you the possibility of uping his game against an old club.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on April 05, 2012, 11:42:35 PM
Gabby has been pretty anonymous last couple of weeks, so we are due a couple of big performances out of him. If it is looking bad, I would have him off on the hour and save him for Stoke. Having to rely on a guy who has not managed 10 goals over the last 70 games is worrying though! I do wonder whether a conventional 4-4-2 with a high tempo and route 1 with Heskey right up top would be a better plan than packing the midfield with players out of position.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on April 05, 2012, 11:53:16 PM
I wouldn't be at all suprised if he's saving some players for Monday.
There is some logic to it somewhere I suppose. Not much point rushing players back from injury when you can give them a little more time to recover in a more winnable fixture.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 06, 2012, 08:02:25 AM
3-1 they will get things back on track with a win against the poor Aston Villa
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mikeb1982 on April 06, 2012, 08:21:54 AM
3-1 they will get things back on track with a win against the poor Aston Villa
Agreed.  We are the perfect team for KKKenny to end his bad run with *sad noise*
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RonBurgundy on April 06, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
Is the Fonz on loan somewhere or just out in the cold?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 06, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
Lawro's verdict

Villa come into this match in danger of being sucked into the relegation battle and the bad news about Stiliyan Petrov's illness does not help.

Are they missing injured England striker Darren Bent up front? Yes and no. Bent gets you goals but I just think Villa are very negative.

If they had been more of an attacking team then they would be about 10 points better off, but Alex McLeish has his way of playing and he has not really unleashed the players he has got who can win games.

2-0 to Liverpool
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 06, 2012, 10:50:03 AM
Lawro's verdict

Villa come into this match in danger of being sucked into the relegation battle and the bad news about Stiliyan Petrov's illness does not help.

Are they missing injured England striker Darren Bent up front? Yes and no. Bent gets you goals but I just think Villa are very negative.

If they had been more of an attacking team then they would be about 10 points better off, but Alex McLeish has his way of playing and he has not really unleashed the players he has got who can win games.

2-0 to Liverpool

Reason enough to sack him. We saw the car crash evolve from early on in the season. Lawro is right. remember all those games at the star of the season when bent was isolated up front and we kept drawing.

Alex. It's one point for a draw, three for a win!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 06, 2012, 11:35:11 AM
The one worry about tomorrow is that whenever Liverpool are about to plunge into a mini crisis, they manage to pull something out the bag and i can see it happening tomorrow.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 06, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
Well I can't see this tomorrow as I'm away, I hope when I check the result it's a win. However I suspect we'll go there and play for a 0-2 defeat and we'll probably lose 0-4.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 06, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
Lawro's verdict

Villa come into this match in danger of being sucked into the relegation battle and the bad news about Stiliyan Petrov's illness does not help.

Are they missing injured England striker Darren Bent up front? Yes and no. Bent gets you goals but I just think Villa are very negative.

If they had been more of an attacking team then they would be about 10 points better off, but Alex McLeish has his way of playing and he has not really unleashed the players he has got who can win games.

2-0 to Liverpool

Reason enough to sack him.

Reason enough to sack him because Big Gay Lawro thinks we'll lose?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on April 06, 2012, 12:00:28 PM
The one worry about tomorrow is that whenever Liverpool are about to plunge into a mini crisis, they manage to pull something out the bag and i can see it happening tomorrow.

Too right. The amount of time and space we will give them is a tonic to a team in distress. We should go there and attack and get their fans on the teams back, but I worry the manager has still pencilled this in as a 'bye'.

It will probably be a turgid game, but they will score and their confidence will grow as the game progresses. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 06, 2012, 12:07:36 PM
Given the form of the sides a draw it's most likely. It would be nice to show enough ambition to get the first goal.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 06, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
when is this game?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 06, 2012, 12:58:07 PM
Lawro's verdict

Villa come into this match in danger of being sucked into the relegation battle and the bad news about Stiliyan Petrov's illness does not help.

Are they missing injured England striker Darren Bent up front? Yes and no. Bent gets you goals but I just think Villa are very negative.

If they had been more of an attacking team then they would be about 10 points better off, but Alex McLeish has his way of playing and he has not really unleashed the players he has got who can win games.

2-0 to Liverpool

Reason enough to sack him.

Reason enough to sack him because Big Gay Lawro thinks we'll lose?

Lawro's point about us being ten points better off if we had been less negative earlier in the season. We had a £24m striker playing on his own with no support for the first few months of the season. We were drawing too many games and lots of posters on this site were pointing out that we weren't trying to create enough chances. We wouldn't be in this mess now if we had beaten teams like QPR,Wigan and Swansea. Teams that we were very negative against.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 06, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
Lawro's verdict

Villa come into this match in danger of being sucked into the relegation battle and the bad news about Stiliyan Petrov's illness does not help.

Are they missing injured England striker Darren Bent up front? Yes and no. Bent gets you goals but I just think Villa are very negative.

If they had been more of an attacking team then they would be about 10 points better off, but Alex McLeish has his way of playing and he has not really unleashed the players he has got who can win games.

2-0 to Liverpool

Reason enough to sack him.

Reason enough to sack him because Big Gay Lawro thinks we'll lose?

Lawro's point about us being ten points better off if we had been less negative earlier in the season. We had a £24m striker playing on his own with no support for the first few months of the season. We were drawing too many games and lots of posters on this site were pointing out that we weren't trying to create enough chances. We wouldn't be in this mess now if we had beaten teams like QPR,Wigan and Swansea. Teams that we were very negative against.


The key is not trying to win the game. McLeish always mentions chances we miss, and how we need to be more ruthless - but if you only create one or two a game, you may miss them. It's mental.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: philthebar on April 06, 2012, 01:41:04 PM
I think Liverpool are there for the taking - so I reckon we will only lose by the odd goal. 2 - 1 to them!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: holte hero on April 06, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
Can somebody clever copy and paste lawros prediction and send it to the clueless owners please
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 06, 2012, 05:15:01 PM
I think Liverpool are there for the taking - so I reckon we will only lose by the odd goal. 2 - 1 to them!

I think that sums it up neatly and succinctly.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 06, 2012, 06:23:53 PM
Liverpool are definitely there for the taking.

However, if there's a team in the division that time after time shows itself lacking in the ambition to "take" anything, it is us under this disaster of a manager.

2-0 Liverpool.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 06, 2012, 06:29:31 PM
Complete with newly-identified error after all these years:

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u149/HVLegion/Villa/ORANGEDOT.gif)

If you're still out there Holtemeister, we need a word...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheshire-villa on April 06, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
I live up in the North West near Liverpool and know from the local media up hear that Liverpool are under massive pressure tomorrow. The Dalglish bubble has well and truly burst and their fans are not happy.

However I disagree with people who think Liverpool are "there for the taking" tomorrow, I think they're due to absolutely Twat someone.....US. We're beyond shit and this clueless fool in charge is taking us into unchartered territory, outside the Premier League.

Randy......we told you so.

4-0 Liverpool.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 06, 2012, 06:39:22 PM
Down on your luck? Need a point or three? Need a few goals? Things going against you? Just play the Villa. Job done.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on April 06, 2012, 06:48:12 PM
Down on your luck? Need a point or three? Need a few goals? Things going against you? Just play the Villa. Job done.
Careful. You'll get a job in the Marketing Team.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on April 06, 2012, 07:40:28 PM
I live up in the North West near Liverpool and know from the local media up hear that Liverpool are under massive pressure tomorrow. The Dalglish bubble has well and truly burst and their fans are not happy.

However I disagree with people who think Liverpool are "there for the taking" tomorrow, I think they're due to absolutely Twat someone.....US. We're beyond shit and this clueless fool in charge is taking us into unchartered territory, outside the Premier League.

Randy......we told you so.

4-0 Liverpool.

Ches: I was looking at the Liverpool message board the other night and it was amazing how they compare there plight with that of Aston Villa, a good few where saying if you want to kick start your revival a team as shite as Villa are just what you need at this time to do just that.

Quite a few comments from some saying we where red hot for relegation.

Strange thing is I think we can get something from this, that could push us on to get something from Stoke.

I do think if McLeish loses to MON the man needs to do himself a huge favour and not turn up at the club again, "Its over".
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 06, 2012, 09:12:34 PM
Liverpool must be delighted they've got us tomorrow.  We are the softest touch in the Prem bar none. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 06, 2012, 09:56:40 PM
Liverpool must be delighted they've got us tomorrow.  We are the softest touch in the Prem bar none. 

Rubbish ! We are better than Wolves !
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on April 06, 2012, 10:07:06 PM
Liverpool must be delighted they've got us tomorrow.  We are the softest touch in the Prem bar none. 

Rubbish ! We are better than Wolves !

Wigan too.  Past those, I'm not sure, hence why I worry.  Think we could nick a draw there though tomorrow, they aren't up to much at home.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadom on April 06, 2012, 10:11:14 PM
We will do well, follow the McLeish plan and not lose by too many.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on April 06, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Liverpool must be delighted they've got us tomorrow.  We are the softest touch in the Prem bar none. 

Rubbish ! We are better than Wolves !
That there is tomorrows team talk!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 06, 2012, 10:47:52 PM
Liverpool are there for the taking.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 06, 2012, 11:54:36 PM
I delight more than most in Liverpool's troubles, but I have to admit that in a lot of games they've played well and been unlucky.

No-one is unlucky against us.

At least 3-0.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 07, 2012, 08:07:53 AM
I agree. I think it's somewhere between3 and 5.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on April 07, 2012, 08:10:53 AM
If we get battered today it could be curtains for what's left of morale.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on April 07, 2012, 08:12:09 AM
What if Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn win..
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villasjf on April 07, 2012, 08:37:20 AM
So whats his team talk today? Boys this is the mighty Liverpool we are playing they have a different agenda you know. Try to keep it tight no trying to be clever like attacking or trying to score. Everyone expects us to lose against these BIG teams so lets keep it down to 5 shall we. Remember what we practice at Bodymoor at defending and corners. I am as safe as houses, everyone expected me to fail so I haven't let them down.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 07, 2012, 08:41:29 AM
So whats his team talk today?
Think we'll lose 4-1 and his post match conference will say how 'unlucky we were' and that 'we were in it when it was 3-1' and 'we're not geting the rub of the green.'
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on April 07, 2012, 08:45:53 AM
What if Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn win..

If they do Stoke will win on Monday
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 07, 2012, 08:49:34 AM
What if Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn win..

Well assuming we lose, no worries as we would still be two points off the relegation places with a superior goal difference and a game in hand too !
But Wigan win at Chelsea ? Come on, shit struggling sides never take 3 points at Chelsea............oh. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 07, 2012, 09:12:34 AM
I'm hearing that Albrighton hasn't travelled with the squad due to a groin injury
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: trotters1983 on April 07, 2012, 09:49:29 AM
Anyone got a spare ticket for this?

Cheers
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 07, 2012, 09:50:21 AM
Anyone got a spare ticket for this?

Cheers

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?board=5.0
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on April 07, 2012, 09:54:24 AM
If he starts Heskey then the wireless is being switched off. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: trotters1983 on April 07, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
No one has replied to me there.
Getting rather desperate and don't really want to sit on the kop
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on April 07, 2012, 10:02:11 AM
No one has replied to me there.
Getting rather desperate and don't really want to sit on the kop
You'll have an amazing view sitting on top of the kop.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: trotters1983 on April 07, 2012, 10:04:48 AM
Helpful
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 07, 2012, 10:12:25 AM
If he starts Heskey then the wireless is being switched off. 
Im not sure he'll have a choice
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 07, 2012, 10:13:36 AM
I know I should be ashamed but..............I live about 9 miles from Anfield and would normally be there alongside the travelling hordes, but the ridiculous cost of the ticket and the current malaise at the club I can not be arsed.

Hearing that another player could be missing through injury makes me fear for the worst.

This is the weakest Liverpool side I have seen since moving to Merseyside some 17 years ago, however that is trumped by us potentially putting out our weakest side in this fixture over the same period of time.

I will be very proud if the kids manage a draw - however with the clown in charge I am not confident.

VTID
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 07, 2012, 10:15:47 AM
If he starts Heskey then the wireless is being switched off.
if he starts heskey i will sit in the bath with the wireless on my bloody lap,slowly watching the water rise until there is a BANG and the nightmare is over!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 07, 2012, 10:25:13 AM
The emphatic win that KKKing Kenny needs.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on April 07, 2012, 10:31:24 AM
Heskey up front, Gabby on the wing. It's what he does away from home. We're going to get spanked.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 07, 2012, 10:34:08 AM
Heskey up front, Gabby on the wing. It's what he does away from home. We're going to get spanked.

Don't be silly Karl.

It'll be Gabby up front and Heskey on the wing.

And we're going to get spanked.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 07, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
If he starts Heskey then the wireless is being switched off. 
Im not sure he'll have a choice

Of course he has a choice. He can go with two wide men (Albrighton and Carruthers for example) and go three in the middle of the park with Gabby up front playing the lone striker which arguably is what he's best at.

He tried Heskey on his own up front at Arsenal and it failed miserably. He hardly got a kick.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 07, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
I'm thinking of avoiding this game today. I can't bear the stress. I might just switch on this evening to see what the score was.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 07, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
I'm thinking of avoiding this game today. I can't bear the stress. I might just switch on this evening to see what the score was.

That's what I'm doing. Taking Fred out for the day.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 07, 2012, 10:59:38 AM


Of course he has a choice. He can go with two wide men (Albrighton and Carruthers for example) and go three in the middle of the park with Gabby up front playing the lone striker which arguably is what he's best at.

He tried Heskey on his own up front at Arsenal and it failed miserably. He hardly got a kick.
Albrighton is injured by all accounts
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on April 07, 2012, 11:02:47 AM
If he starts Heskey then the wireless is being switched off. 
Im not sure he'll have a choice

Of course he has a choice. He can go with two wide men (Albrighton and Carruthers for example) and go three in the middle of the park with Gabby up front playing the lone striker which arguably is what he's best at.

He tried Heskey on his own up front at Arsenal and it failed miserably. He hardly got a kick.

Albrighton hasn't travelled with the squad.

I am avoiding the game by going to an outdoor rave from 12pm until 1am. By that time I will be so mullered I won't care what the score was.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 07, 2012, 11:03:59 AM


Of course he has a choice. He can go with two wide men (Albrighton and Carruthers for example) and go three in the middle of the park with Gabby up front playing the lone striker which arguably is what he's best at.

He tried Heskey on his own up front at Arsenal and it failed miserably. He hardly got a kick.
Albrighton is injured by all accounts

Oh dear, did'nt realise that. That's not good at all, he was very good when he came on last week.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 07, 2012, 11:05:06 AM
If he starts Heskey then the wireless is being switched off. 
Im not sure he'll have a choice

Of course he has a choice. He can go with two wide men (Albrighton and Carruthers for example) and go three in the middle of the park with Gabby up front playing the lone striker which arguably is what he's best at.

He tried Heskey on his own up front at Arsenal and it failed miserably. He hardly got a kick.

Albrighton hasn't travelled with the squad.

I am avoiding the game by going to an outdoor rave from 12pm until 1am. By that time I will be so mullered I won't care what the score was.

I might go to an Owl Sanctuary and turn my phone off.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 07, 2012, 11:09:56 AM
I'm off to Blackpool pleasure beach and leaving my iPhone at home Bound to be scousers everywhere
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 07, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
We now have the most injuries in the league with 10.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 07, 2012, 11:17:43 AM
I might go to an Owl Sanctuary and turn my phone off.


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Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on April 07, 2012, 11:19:02 AM
Heard we've only sold 300 tickets for this, anyone know if thats true?
Can see us getting hammered here. Were spineless against "bigger" teams, and with the injuries we have and by other games we've played I'm not expecting miracles, got a feeling its going to be set out for damaged limitation
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on April 07, 2012, 11:22:36 AM
Liverpool are worse than us at the moment so a i'm going for the draw... unless Heskey plays in which case you know what it will be :(
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 07, 2012, 11:24:55 AM
Could someone tell me why Albrighton's injured?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 07, 2012, 11:29:04 AM
Could someone tell me why Albrighton's injured?

Because McLeish shot an albatross, apparently.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 07, 2012, 11:38:44 AM
isnt that how we have been set out all season,damage limitation?why should today be any different?cant see where a goal is coming from for us at all unless gabby steps up to the mark.its going to be tough to get any sort of respectable result out of this.all we can hope for is that the depleted squad,full of youngsters gives a good account of themselves and fights for the club.we all know that we are in the shit and we may well get relegated.it will be a shame if we do go down,but then maybe the board of wankers,sorry,directors will see what we have seen even before the season started-that they made a bad decision in ignoring the fans when they appointed mcuseless and an even worse decision not sacking him quite a few games ago.the bloke has never once said it is because of his lack of tactical awareness and bad man management is the reason that we are in this position.you only have to look at most of his team setups to see that he is clueless.he just blames the players all the time.its all bollocks!as for faulkner saying that we should be fighting for a european spot,well,he can just go and get f..ked.it was his decision,along with lerner that got us into this mess.they appointed the clown,they can get rid of him and hopefully follow him out of the door soon after.WE WANT OUR VILLA BACK!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on April 07, 2012, 11:39:47 AM
Monty you terrible c***.



Sorry always wanted to post that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on April 07, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
Could someone tell me why Albrighton's injured?

Snigger
Because McLeish shot an albatross, apparently.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 07, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
isnt that how we have been set out all season,damage limitation?why should today be any different?cant see where a goal is coming from for us at all unless gabby steps up to the mark.its going to be tough to get any sort of respectable result out of this.all we can hope for is that the depleted squad,full of youngsters gives a good account of themselves and fights for the club.we all know that we are in the shit and we may well get relegated.it will be a shame if we do go down,but then maybe the board of wankers,sorry,directors will see what we have seen even before the season started-that they made a bad decision in ignoring the fans when they appointed mcuseless and an even worse decision not sacking him quite a few games ago.the bloke has never once said it is because of his lack of tactical awareness and bad man management is the reason that we are in this position.you only have to look at most of his team setups to see that he is clueless.he just blames the players all the time.its all bollocks!as for faulkner saying that we should be fighting for a european spot,well,he can just go and get f..ked.it was his decision,along with lerner that got us into this mess.they appointed the clown,they can get rid of him and hopefully follow him out of the door soon after.WE WANT OUR VILLA BACK!!!

Two things to take from this:

1) You make it sound like having a 'depleted squad full of youngsters' is McLeish's fault. Love him or hate him, (I'm gonna assume it's the latter) he's been incredibly unlucky with injuries, something MON never had.

2) It's fair enough to sit there and say that we should've sacked him a few games ago, but look what's happened to Wolves since they got rid of their manager on a knee-jerk reaction.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 07, 2012, 11:54:07 AM
isnt that how we have been set out all season,damage limitation?why should today be any different?cant see where a goal is coming from for us at all unless gabby steps up to the mark.its going to be tough to get any sort of respectable result out of this.all we can hope for is that the depleted squad,full of youngsters gives a good account of themselves and fights for the club.we all know that we are in the shit and we may well get relegated.it will be a shame if we do go down,but then maybe the board of wankers,sorry,directors will see what we have seen even before the season started-that they made a bad decision in ignoring the fans when they appointed mcuseless and an even worse decision not sacking him quite a few games ago.the bloke has never once said it is because of his lack of tactical awareness and bad man management is the reason that we are in this position.you only have to look at most of his team setups to see that he is clueless.he just blames the players all the time.its all bollocks!as for faulkner saying that we should be fighting for a european spot,well,he can just go and get f..ked.it was his decision,along with lerner that got us into this mess.they appointed the clown,they can get rid of him and hopefully follow him out of the door soon after.WE WANT OUR VILLA BACK!!!
i am also surprised he hasn't said it is his own lack of tactical awareness to blame.loads of managers do that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 07, 2012, 11:55:47 AM
Could someone tell me why Albrighton's injured?

Because McLeish shot an albatross, apparently.

Chortle
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mikeb1982 on April 07, 2012, 11:57:46 AM
Could someone tell me why Albrighton's injured?

Snigger
Because McLeish shot an albatross, apparently.

On the plus side, that comment has put a very cool and calming tune in my head which will help me deal with this afternoon's events
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 07, 2012, 12:01:44 PM
I think KKKenny will be cashing this in today

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Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 07, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
isnt that how we have been set out all season,damage limitation?why should today be any different?cant see where a goal is coming from for us at all unless gabby steps up to the mark.its going to be tough to get any sort of respectable result out of this.all we can hope for is that the depleted squad,full of youngsters gives a good account of themselves and fights for the club.we all know that we are in the shit and we may well get relegated.it will be a shame if we do go down,but then maybe the board of wankers,sorry,directors will see what we have seen even before the season started-that they made a bad decision in ignoring the fans when they appointed mcuseless and an even worse decision not sacking him quite a few games ago.the bloke has never once said it is because of his lack of tactical awareness and bad man management is the reason that we are in this position.you only have to look at most of his team setups to see that he is clueless.he just blames the players all the time.its all bollocks!as for faulkner saying that we should be fighting for a european spot,well,he can just go and get f..ked.it was his decision,along with lerner that got us into this mess.they appointed the clown,they can get rid of him and hopefully follow him out of the door soon after.WE WANT OUR VILLA BACK!!!
i am also surprised he hasn't said it is his own lack of tactical awareness to blame.loads of managers do that.
a lot of managers will admit that it was there fault ,that they got there decisions wrong is what i meant mate.he cant just go round blaming the set of lads that he has chosen all the time.a bit of humility fromthe bloke wouldnt go a miss would it?instead all we hear is his arrogance in the after match interviews and thats not fair on the lads,i dont think so anyway.i just hope we can survive,by the skin of our teeth.surely the board must be looking for a replacement,surely.can lerner and faulkner,after witnessing european nights at villa park be satisfied with the posistion we find ourselves in now?if it was you giving the same sort of performances at your work me thinks you would be quickly f..ked of down the road,i know i would be.it cant continue like this.for fucksake,are we destined to become another sheff wed,notts forest or the likes of?slipping down the divisions into total obscurity cause nobody upstairs really gives a shit,or are the people upstairs going to do something before our great club gets fucked over bigtime?i just care about my club,along with all the rest of us and this shit can not go on any longer.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on April 07, 2012, 12:30:53 PM
Head says we will struggle, but if we don't concede early then maybe, just maybe we can get something and it would be brilliant if we could pile more pressure on Red Scouse and King Kenny.

Just predicted 1-1 on Super 6 on sky sports - interesting that they think our man to watch is Darren Bent, so maybe they are suggesting Villa fans avoid the game and go shopping.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on April 07, 2012, 12:34:46 PM
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Lose this one 2-0. To run salt into the wound Downing will get both goals!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 07, 2012, 12:42:28 PM
Is it true or bobbins about Jenas nearing fitness?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on April 07, 2012, 12:43:43 PM
We now have the most injuries in the league with 10.

Didn't he have injury problems when at blues? Looks like another poor trait has followed him to our club.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mal on April 07, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
Is it true or bobbins about Jenas nearing fitness?

Listed as Spurs player on physio room  as June 2012, so no.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 07, 2012, 12:52:23 PM
One thing that might be in our favour today is that Liverpool will be under pressure to beat an injury hit side at home.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 07, 2012, 12:54:15 PM
reference these quotes about European football.  I am assuming he knows something we don't.  That the Johnstone's Paint Trophy Winners will qualify for a European berth next season.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 07, 2012, 01:03:19 PM
We now have the most injuries in the league with 10.

Didn't he have injury problems when at blues? Looks like another poor trait has followed him to our club.

Actually I'm quite sure he had extraordinarily good fortunes with injuries at Blues. I remember they went on a fourteen (or something similar) match streak with the exact same starting eleven which was a premier league record.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on April 07, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
We now have the most injuries in the league with 10.

Didn't he have injury problems when at blues? Looks like another poor trait has followed him to our club.

Actually I'm quite sure he had extraordinarily good fortunes with injuries at Blues. I remember they went on a fourteen (or something similar) match streak with the exact same starting eleven which was a premier league record.

I think he meant last season, where after the cup final, half the team were injured and they were relegated.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on April 07, 2012, 01:08:53 PM
I've this feeling that we will play well for half an hour. Hit the bar and post.

Then be 3-0 down at half time.

Downing, Gerrard (pen, awarded for foul 5 yards outside the box) and a Heskey o.g.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 07, 2012, 01:09:29 PM
We now have the most injuries in the league with 10.

Didn't he have injury problems when at blues? Looks like another poor trait has followed him to our club.

Actually I'm quite sure he had extraordinarily good fortunes with injuries at Blues. I remember they went on a fourteen (or something similar) match streak with the exact same starting eleven which was a premier league record.

I think he meant last season, where after the cup final, half the team were injured and they were relegated.


Oh, yeah. Crap.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on April 07, 2012, 01:17:35 PM
Downing, Gerrard (pen, awarded for foul 5 yards outside the box) and a Heskey o.g.
throw in a comedy Warnock own goal, a tap-in by Carroll's pig-tail and a mighty Kop/Dalglish love-in and you have the perfect afternoon of misery

forgotten how much i hate Liverpool
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on April 07, 2012, 01:44:05 PM
Is it true or bobbins about Jenas nearing fitness?

He's in the Sky studio for Sunderland v Spurs.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fernando Partridge on April 07, 2012, 01:53:45 PM
We have to beat this lot:
Doni, Flanagan, Carragher, Skrtel, Enrique, Shelvey, Henderson, Kuyt, Gerrard, Downing, Suarez
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on April 07, 2012, 01:54:51 PM
Is it true or bobbins about Jenas nearing fitness?

He's in the Sky studio for Sunderland v Spurs.

Another embarrassing and stupid episode him signing on loan for the season. I would have him cleaning the pigeon shit of the seats in the holte end why we pay his wages.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on April 07, 2012, 02:00:54 PM
With so many injuries plus the media all week highlighting Liverpools terrible form it all points to a home win, I hope and pray I am wrong but cannot see us getting anything today, I am hoping Chelsea and Man united help our cause against Wigan and Qpr and for once I am wanting the  Albion to win, Villa nerves set in as soon as I woke up today. UTV   
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: FiveKenMcNaughts on April 07, 2012, 02:02:47 PM
Heskey starts, Warnock in midfield...hmmmm
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 07, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
Heskey starts ..   Ill watch it tonight on Football First with the sound on mute , maybe playing some music in the back ground to keep me chilled.    Im going to work , radio off and phone off I think.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 07, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
Villa: Given, Hutton, Collins, Baker, Lichaj, Herd, Ireland, Bannan, Warnock, Agbonlahor [c], Heskey. Subs: Guzan, Johnson, Carruthers, Gardner, Weimann, Stevens, Williams.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 07, 2012, 02:18:49 PM
Weimann for Heskey at least .       hes going for a 0 0     .     I suppose we would take that however negative we play
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfc_1874 on April 07, 2012, 02:22:49 PM
That line-up is depressing. It's going to be a long game. 4-0.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on April 07, 2012, 02:23:18 PM
No way that defence will have a clean sheet.

Gabby will score one.
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