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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2012, 11:11:43 AM

Title: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2012, 11:11:43 AM
I know it's good that he makes these donations, but how about a bit of anonymity for a change?

www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/03/08/former-aston-villa-chairman-sir-doug-ellis-says-birmingham-reseachers-saved-his-life-97319-30484525/
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 09, 2012, 11:14:02 AM
He loves a bit of PR does our doug...
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: nigel on March 09, 2012, 11:18:58 AM
Pity he wasn't so charitable towards Tony Barton's widow!!
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 09, 2012, 11:37:45 AM
He gives to Charidee and he DOES like to talk about it.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: pooligan on March 09, 2012, 12:07:14 PM
Doug showing a bit of anonymity,ha ha that would be a first. He is the only chairman i can remember seeing being pictured on any big occasion such as a major signing . He just craves the publicity
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on March 09, 2012, 12:31:05 PM
Effing megalomaniac
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: itbrvilla on March 09, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
Have to walk past that every day! Sigh!
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 09, 2012, 12:37:42 PM
I know it's good that he makes these donations, but how about a bit of anonymity for a change?

www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/03/08/former-aston-villa-chairman-sir-doug-ellis-says-birmingham-reseachers-saved-his-life-97319-30484525/

You weren't really expecting him to change now were you Dave? He's almost the big 90 and as set in his ways as one could be. This is who he is. He has done a lot of good with a ton of publicity to announce thrown in for good measure.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: montague on March 09, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
Whats the problem - hes doing some good, he is pictured in a Villa tie, it can only put the club in a good light. So what if he likes a bit of publicity if thats his thing.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: villasjf on March 09, 2012, 01:04:19 PM
He is a good man who helped to save our club in the late 60s. And he got Pele to VP in the dark ages (power cuts)
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Fred on March 09, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
Well done Sir Doug. He won't change and lloves to be in the limelight but at least he is doing some good with his millions.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: darren woolley on March 09, 2012, 01:34:30 PM
Also well done Sir Doug.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 09, 2012, 01:42:47 PM
Never his greatest fan but he is helping publicise donating to projects across the city, something I'd imagine is not top of the list of charitable causes. There is probably no other sector that has so much competition and despite the number of charities out there, it doesn't mean people give more money. All charitable organisations are fighting for the same pound.

Whether intentionally or not, he is promoting educational facilities within the city, even if it in reality is just having a university common room named after him. I'd much prefer to see money made from the Villa re-invested within the region on this type of project than some donkey sanctuary in Dorset.

Of course he loves the publicity, he always has but in this case I'm not going to beat him with a stick, as one of the comments made in that article says, he could be hiding his money off shore and avoiding taxes but he follows instead a long tradition of benefactors that the city of Birmingham has had since the Victorian days.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: itbrvilla on March 09, 2012, 02:23:08 PM
Whats a 'reseacher'?
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: The Man With A Stick on March 09, 2012, 02:30:50 PM
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Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: kipeye on March 09, 2012, 03:51:41 PM
I guess we all have our views on this one. I doubt anyone would disagree that he is giving his money for worthy causes but he also appears to be buying himself a legacy-hence spraying his name on walls.
Lots of business people give to charity because it is good business. Some people give because they are moved by a cause or wish to help. Etc. It might be all of these with Herbert and if he offered it to my charity I would undoubtedly...

Tell him to feck off!
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: mr woo on March 09, 2012, 06:21:05 PM
Some might call it self promotion, others would say he's raising the profile of a worthy cause.  If you don't like the bloke you'll say its the former I suppose.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: TheSandman on March 09, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
Does he want another Knighthood?
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2012, 06:24:38 PM
I think there comes a time with someone like Doug when the fact that it's him, again, overshadows the message. Looking at that story my first thought would be it's Doug Ellis getting his photo in the paper again, and the second is that once more he's having something named after himself. The worthy cause gets lost in that baggage. 
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 09, 2012, 06:29:02 PM
True, Dave but who's to blame for that, Doug or the journalist?
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2012, 06:32:07 PM
I don't think the journalist named the place and neither do I think Doug was dragged kicking and screaming to have his photo taken.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: mr woo on March 09, 2012, 06:34:58 PM
Absolutely Dave, I don't disagree with you. He's following a well trodden path here, and he's never been adverse to seeing his name in perspex, but regardless, if there are benefits to others and it makes him happy, let the old bugger get on with it.

Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 09, 2012, 06:37:00 PM
..he's never been adverse to seeing his name in perspex..

Brilliant!
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Apyadg on March 09, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
I don't see the problem with him getting a little bit of publicity in the local rag for a decent contribution to a good cause.

If it were donig any harm, fair enough, but does it benefit the university any more for him to have done this anonymously? I really don't see what your problem is.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: E I Adio on March 09, 2012, 07:01:55 PM
I suspect at his age there's little chance of reforming his ego maniacal tendencies.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: woody4866 on March 09, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
Fair play to him

He still shows up when the Old Stars turn out at the Gas club in Erdington to raise a bit of cash (admittedly in his Roller), but good on him I say
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: charlie on March 09, 2012, 09:01:38 PM
I used to really dislike the dead hand of Doug on our progress. Now I see him in a much less critical light. Indeed it is an interesting thought as to how much, if any, influence he may have with Randy. His trigger finger, ready to fire AMc,  might be useful at this moment, and if it transpired that Doug was the author of Eck's demise how many of us would begrudge his self publicised charity exploits. o my message is simple, well done Doug, now get on with Villa bis and get shut of this useless negative scot please.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Jimmy Smash on March 09, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
He's given £2M to build a library. He's old. Yes, hes an egomaniac, but he wants to be remembered. Give him a break.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: charlie on March 09, 2012, 09:08:05 PM
Yes, we cannot blame forever...... with some exception . {DoL, .......}
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on March 09, 2012, 09:27:05 PM
A woman on the radio this morning commented that it's a very British thing that openly giving to charity is somehow considered to be vulgar. She said we should celebrate them more. I agree. The net result is good.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Mike Jeffries on March 09, 2012, 10:50:10 PM
..he's never been adverse to seeing his name in perspex..

Brilliant!

That is good!
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 10, 2012, 12:21:54 AM
He's given £2M to build a library. He's old. Yes, hes an egomaniac, but he wants to be remembered. Give him a break.

No he hasn't, he's given £415,000, still a sizeable chunk but still only 20.75% of the project, even if he's claiming 100% of the publicity. To his credit, reading between the lines, he was the first to make a donation which helps gets the ball rolling.
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: The Left Side on March 10, 2012, 01:18:18 AM
He invented Birmingham Uni you know!
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 10, 2012, 07:26:36 AM
£415,000 so some young doctors have got a place to read ?
Bill Gates has thrown in about £24billion to try and eradicate childhood diseases in Africa.

Typical Ellis ! Running his charitable foundation with a corner shop mentality !  ;) 
Title: Re: Mr Charidee strikes again
Post by: Ron Manager on March 10, 2012, 08:33:12 AM
I remember outside Wembley in 2000 he left his wife standing by herself while he glad handed every Villa supporter he could get his hands on....and anyone who names his boat Deadly is all right by me!

Hes probably got an agreement with the club that they dont rename his stand....forever!
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