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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: wookster on March 06, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
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Are the players being made redundant by Rangers able to sign as free agents, and if so would AM be interested
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Depends how far they can kick it..
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Isn’t Gregg Wylde supposed to be a decent young player? I’ve not seen to much of Rangers this season but have heard his name mentioned.
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Didn't Bolton bid for Wylde in the summer? Meant to be a decent winger but do we need another 'decent winger'?
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Lee Wallace was linked wasn't he? If any good maybe worth offering 500k now rather than paying full price when he is available. Steven Davis will be on the Eck list too.
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I'd like to see Davis come back. He could be an ideal replacement for the ageing Petrov.
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If they are made redundant then the players become free agents and therefore don't come under the normal transfer restrictions.
Mind you IF any players are made redundant it will most likely be Academy players and fringe squad players. I can't see the administrators making any of the better players redundant, better to keep hold of them 'till the window opens and then take any reasonable offer.
There's supposed to be a press conference later today concerning the players so we'll know more then.
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I never really got the hype about Steven Davis.
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Me neither. I used to sit next to DW and point out the flaws in his game, count the number of times he gave the ball away etc. He was well over-rated.
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BBC Scotland reporter Martin Conaghan on the future of the players who have left Rangers: "It's not as straightforward as finding another club and simply signing for them. Fifa has the final say and has made dispensation in the past for players who have been made redundant through no fault of their own. The player is usually treated as having been unemployed during the previous transfer window."
BBC Scotland reporter Martin Conaghan on the future of the players who have left Rangers continued: "The transfer windows have closed in Scotland and England, so even if a player is out of contract, they can't be signed for another club, unless it is approved by the association they are moving to. This could raise complaints from other clubs. There would be no problem with a player moving to an association where the transfer window is still open. The SFL and the SPL have emergency loan deal windows, which end on 31 March. In England, it's 29 March."
BBC Scotland reporter Martin Conaghan on the future of the players who have left Rangers continued: "Ultimately Fifa decides on each case - but the application for a transfer is made on behalf of the player by the SFA. The transfer windows are still open in Japan (8 January-2 April), USA/Canada (21 January-15 April) and Finland (1 March-30 April).
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Me neither. I used to sit next to DW and point out the flaws in his game, count the number of times he gave the ball away etc. He was well over-rated.
And he looks like Chesney from Coronation Street (Davis, not Dave W, he looks more like Schmeichel from Coronation Street).
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I never really got the hype about Steven Davis.
Decent player, but nothing too special.
Also, unless he's changed his game since leaving us, he was more of an attacking player, so hardly suitable to replace Petrov.
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beggars can't be choosers. If we could get Davis on a free it would at least offer us another option in midfield which is a major problem currently.
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So how exactly did Fulham sign Diarra last week if out of contract players can only sign during a window?
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If a player is made redundant and his contract torn up it is considered differently from a player who has become a free agent by his contract expiring. At least I think that's what it is.
Rangers won't send Davis out on a free. He is their one saleable asset and has something like a five year contract.
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I can't think of any who will be made available who I'd want. I wouldn't even want Davis if he was free and he won't be.
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So how exactly did Fulham sign Diarra last week if out of contract players can only sign during a window?
When a player has been released from their contract, can they immediately move to another club?
It's not as straightforward as finding another club and simply signing for them.
Fifa has the final say on the matter and has made dispensation in the past for players who have been made redundant through no fault of their own.
Players who have been made redundant are usually treated as having been unemployed during the previous transfer window.
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Davis is no better than (and in my opinion, not as good as) any of our better midfield kids (Johnson, Carruthers, Gardner, Herd, Clark etc..) so I don't see the point in having him back.
We should have got Diarra though. That wasn't very clever.
He's exactly what we need at the moment.
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Davis is no better than (and in my opinion, not as good as) any of our better midfield kids (Johnson, Carruthers, Gardner, Herd, Clark etc..) so I don't see the point in having him back.
We should have got Diarra though. That wasn't very clever.
He's exactly what we need at the moment.
I suspect he must be on @ least £40,000 pw which is out of our league I reckon
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Rangers won't send Davis out on a free. He is their one saleable asset and has something like a five year contract.
Rangers won't have any say in the matter, the administrators will make the decisions, although on the face of it, it would seem silly!
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Isn’t Gregg Wylde supposed to be a decent young player? I’ve not seen to much of Rangers this season but have heard his name mentioned.
Just been announced that Wylde and one other have taken voluntary redundancy.
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Me neither. I used to sit next to DW and point out the flaws in his game, count the number of times he gave the ball away etc. He was well over-rated.
And he looks like Chesney from Coronation Street (Davis, not Dave W, he looks more like Schmeichel from Coronation Street).
Dave W looks like Alex Salmond, the SNP oil chaser.
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beggars can't be choosers. If we could get Davis on a free it would at least offer us another option in midfield which is a major problem currently.
That sort of deal makes sense if they given 6 month contract (with maybe an option for the club) but most players will demand a 3-year deal, which represents a lot of money over the entire contract. I'd prefer to save the wages for the type of player we need rather than filling the squad with "options" but could ultimately restrict our transfer targets later on.
In this particular instance I'd prefer Bannan to get the chances to shine rather than Davis, as I think they're similar types of players.
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I can see no point in having Davis back, as said above, highly over rated.
I can't see that he would have improved in his time in that tinpot Scottish league.
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I think many are missing the point.
If we're going to get rid of 6 or 7 players in the summer we have to replace them, and build up the squad, so we should be looking to be bringing in around 10 players if we lose 6 or 7.
We already know we can't compete for the big names, so, we have to look at the rest and hope we unearth a diamond or two.
Davis would be a good addition to the squad, as would Wylde.
I actually thought Davis was pretty good. He was young and, yes, he made mistakes, by all accounts his overall game has improved.
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doesn't matter if they are ' saleable assets ' the administrators need to save a million notes a week NOW, the high earners are at risk
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No thanks to Davis, he was one of the best of a bad bunch in the dolly side but not now
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Only seen him on TV but I thought Wyled looked pretty useful, quick left sided player.
He's still young, might be worthwhile getting him in before we lose those we expect to lose in the summer. Young and I wouldn't have thought he will make a massive dent on the pay roll.
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According to some reports, Rangers could be forced to ditch most of the team by the administrators and be left with a squad of youths, reserves and only 8 of the current seniors. If AM is looking at Bosman type signings then as an exRangers man he would be interested in the goings on there.
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Only seen him on TV but I thought Wyled looked pretty useful, quick left sided player.
He's still young, might be worthwhile getting him in before we lose those we expect to lose in the summer. Young and I wouldn't have thought he will make a massive dent on the pay roll.
Really know nothing about the player, but this seems like a decent move.
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Only seen him on TV but I thought Wyled looked pretty useful, quick left sided player.
He's still young, might be worthwhile getting him in before we lose those we expect to lose in the summer. Young and I wouldn't have thought he will make a massive dent on the pay roll.
Rumours on Twitter...........(I know) that he is on his way down to England with Blackpool/Southampton interested and that he was only on £4,000 pw
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Alan McGregor is probably the only player in the entire SPL that is good enough for us. And we don't need a keeper really.
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Have Rangers got any decent forwards who may be let go? I know the had Jelavic who went to Everton. I was just thinking that we're a little short in that area and was wondering if there was anyone we could pick up until the end of the season.
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Naismith and Fleck would be the only ones with a very remote chance of being good enough.
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Craig Whyte looks like an alarmed frog.
That is all
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Didn't Rangers turn down big money bids for Sasa Papic last summer?
Plays left back, so...
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Forget any ideas of forwards, wingers or attacking midfielders. We are Alex McLeish' Aston Villa.
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All Scotttish players are rubbish.
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If a player is made redundant and his contract torn up it is considered differently from a player who has become a free agent by his contract expiring. At least I think that's what it is.
Rangers won't send Davis out on a free. He is their one saleable asset and has something like a five year contract.
One issue with that statement, if they cannot afford he contract the adminstrator will make him redundant
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All Scotttish players are rubbish.
Not rate Bannan then?
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Or Andy Gray? Alan McInally? Ken McNaught? George Ramsay? Archie Hunter? Allan Evans? Des Bremner?
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All Scotttish players are rubbish.
Not rate Bannan then?
I don't. I think he's as average as they come.
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Malcolm Rifkind! Rod Stewart! The Proclaimers! Jimmy Krankie! Jimmy Krankie! Your boys took one hell of a beating
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Can't we rip up Heskey's contract and send him to Rangers as a gesture of goodwill.
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Oh oh Rangers have a Hutton in their squad...one is enough thanks.
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Can't we rip up Heskey's contract and send him to Rangers as a gesture of goodwill.
I'll drive him there!
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Can't we rip up Heskey's contract and send him to Rangers as a gesture of goodwill.
Haven't the daft bigots suffered enough?
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Never a fan of the Scottish set up and the dominance of the Old Firm. But Rangers look like going into liquidation and not being able to play the rest of their games this season. Surely they should be able to play the rest of the games with any of the players who wish to play for less or no money so as "football club" they can play versus as business rather than an " company" or is that too much common sense?
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I'd imagine if worst came to absolute worst they'd stop trading as Rangers FC and will come back technically as 'Glasgow Rangers FC.'
Even if it means having to work their way back up the football ladder in Scotland, that will be far easier to do than it would for a club south of the border.
As such, I won't grieve for them too much.
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Yes but at the end of the day it's about putting 11 men on the pitch to play some games. There should be clauses in the 'company' v the 'club'.
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Stick the bigots in the Highland League 38th division. With a bit of luck Celtic will join them.
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Naismith is a decent player but has had a bad injury. Fiery, quick right sided player. Probably better than Albrighton lets admit.
Davis would be decent too. Better than Makoun.
Seen Lafferty a couple of times. Raw but a handful. better than Heskey.
I'm sick of us signing SPL players but if Mcleish stays on expect at least 2 of these 3 to rock up to Villa Park.
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According to mirrorfootball.co.uk we are leading the race to sign Gregg Wylde. I wouldn’t mind if we got him, everything I’ve read about him has been very positive.
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Any news on when the press conference is from your source mate..............
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I'm sick of us signing SPL players but if Mcleish stays on expect at least 2 of these 3 to rock up to Villa Park.
We haven't signed one since Shaun Maloney, five years ago.
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I'm sick of us signing SPL players but if Mcleish stays on expect at least 2 of these 3 to rock up to Villa Park.
We haven't signed one since Shaun Maloney, five years ago.
*Cough*..Carlos Cuellar..*Cough*
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I'm sick of us signing SPL players but if Mcleish stays on expect at least 2 of these 3 to rock up to Villa Park.
We haven't signed one since Shaun Maloney, five years ago.
*Cough*..Carlos Cuellar..*Cough*
Ah, but, er, Rangers aren't in the SPL now.
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Gregg Wylde goal from last year.
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I'm sick of us signing SPL players but if Mcleish stays on expect at least 2 of these 3 to rock up to Villa Park.
We haven't signed one since Shaun Maloney, five years ago.
*Cough*..Carlos Cuellar..*Cough*
Ah, but, er, Rangers aren't in the SPL now.
Haha. That was three and a half years ago though, so the point of your original post is still true enough.
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Gregg Wylde goal from last year.
That pass from Davis is Bannanesque