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Title: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: The Man With A Stick on March 05, 2012, 09:13:09 PM
Link (http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=309924)

No need to fast forward to the end either, we're the first game on for a change.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Pete3206 on March 06, 2012, 12:38:47 AM
Enjoyed that. Sid's goal was great.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: The Left Side on March 06, 2012, 01:27:31 AM
Grrr it won't let me see it as i'm not in the UK!!!
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: willywombat on March 06, 2012, 03:02:17 AM
Me neither! :(
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 06, 2012, 09:08:17 AM
I sat in the Trinity for this game - a rare treat.

I was more convinced than ever that it was our year for the cup after this game. Was it Wolves at home in the previous round? I remember hundreds of Wolves fans spilling onto the pitch and sitting on the touchline during the game.

Arsenel finished us off in the next round?
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: The Man With A Stick on March 06, 2012, 10:09:40 AM
Enjoyed that. Sid's goal was great.

As was Gibson's, lovely build up to it.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: darren woolley on March 06, 2012, 11:36:10 AM
Thanks for that really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 06, 2012, 12:51:54 PM
I sat in the Trinity for this game - a rare treat.

I was more convinced than ever that it was our year for the cup after this game. Was it Wolves at home in the previous round? I remember hundreds of Wolves fans spilling onto the pitch and sitting on the touchline during the game.

Arsenel finished us off in the next round?

Think so and went out to Manure in the Semi-Final. Then Manure just beat Brighton.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
I was in the Upper Trinity for this game. I still have the highlights of the game on VHS somewhere. I remember Jimmy Greaves doing punditry on the version I saw. I remember him saying about Watford being allowed to use black tape to cover their sponsors and how much better it was than the red tape used by the FA.
Also him saying that Sid's goal wasn't a shot but a pass into the back of the net. He really enthused over Sid from what I remember.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 06, 2012, 03:08:32 PM
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Watford being allowed to use black tape to cover their sponsors


Sorry for being a nerd here, but was the Watford sponsor at the time Solvite?
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 06, 2012, 03:23:10 PM
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Watford being allowed to use black tape to cover their sponsors


Sorry for being a nerd here, but was the Watford sponsor at the time Solvite?

No, I think it was Iveco, local truck builders.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2012, 03:27:24 PM
Solvite were sponsors from 85-88 according to the historical kits site.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Flamingo Lane on March 06, 2012, 09:16:53 PM
I was at that game and remember it well.  We played supebly, and Watford also played very well.  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Pete3206 on March 06, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
I sat in the Trinity for this game - a rare treat.

I was more convinced than ever that it was our year for the cup after this game. Was it Wolves at home in the previous round? I remember hundreds of Wolves fans spilling onto the pitch and sitting on the touchline during the game.

Arsenel finished us off in the next round?

Think so and went out to Manure in the Semi-Final. Then Manure just beat Brighton.

Bit more than 'just'. They won 4-0 in the replay. Brighton blew their chance in the first game with a last minute miss that must have haunted Michael Robinson for evermore. Didn't Brighton get relegated as well?
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: big 1st serve on March 06, 2012, 10:45:02 PM
 Enjoyed watching that again,

  Points of interest :

  When Allan Evans makes that challange that results in the penalty, it looks as if he,s going to take the linesman out

   An early rendition of "Birmingham, Shit , Can you hear us on the box" ?

   Ground advertising for Chequer Bitter & Jaeger Lager, Davenports ?
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: richard moore on March 06, 2012, 11:03:02 PM
I was at that game and remember it well.  We played supebly, and Watford also played very well.  Thanks for posting.

And yet despite that, watching games from this era always make think we were watching what was at first a very slow unravelling of that great team. This was the season when it started although one perhaps didn't acknowledge it at the time
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2012, 11:05:30 PM
That's why Allan Evans was a Villa hero of mine when I was a youngster. 4-0 up in injury time and he still looks like he wants to give the linesman a kicking for giving them a penalty.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 07, 2012, 10:46:09 AM
Bit more than 'just'. They won 4-0 in the replay. Brighton blew their chance in the first game with a last minute miss that must have haunted Michael Robinson for evermore.

Gordon Smith surely? As in the famous commentary "And Smith must score!" Later to become the title of a brighton fanzine.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: He wears a magic hat on March 07, 2012, 10:58:47 AM
I sat in the Trinity for this game - a rare treat.

I was more convinced than ever that it was our year for the cup after this game. Was it Wolves at home in the previous round? I remember hundreds of Wolves fans spilling onto the pitch and sitting on the touchline during the game.

Arsenel finished us off in the next round?

Think so and went out to Manure in the Semi-Final. Then Manure just beat Brighton.

Bit more than 'just'. They won 4-0 in the replay. Brighton blew their chance in the first game with a last minute miss that must have haunted Michael Robinson for evermore. Didn't Brighton get relegated as well?

I'm sure the last minute miss haunted Michael Robinson but wasn't it Gordon Smith that missed it
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Damo70 on March 07, 2012, 02:00:46 PM
The result is even more impressive when you take into account Watford were runners up to Liverpool that season. The two other things I remember about that season's FA cup was Mark Walter's winner at Northampton in the third round and cheering on United in the final. We needed them to win and qualify for the Cup Winners Cup so we could take their UEFA Cup place.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 07, 2012, 02:45:09 PM
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but wasn't it Gordon Smith that missed it

It was.

The miss was preceded by Peter Jones' immortal line " And Smith must score..."

edit - just read Dave Coops' post
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Kingthing on March 07, 2012, 09:37:51 PM


Their number 7 can spin some fat tunes.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Damo70 on March 08, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
I think Peter Jones did the "And Smith must score" on the radio. I also think John Motson on the telly said "And Smith surely". Motty must be a bit gutted that his slightly different line has been buried in history below Peter Jones'. It could have been worse though. I haven't got a clue what Hugh Johns said on ITV in the final seconds in 1966.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: He wears a magic hat on March 08, 2012, 05:03:40 PM
'And it must be and it is' - anybody got an idea how any other commentators waxed lyrical about our greatest moment
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: Damo70 on March 09, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
I seem to remember BRMB replaying George Gavin's hysterical screeching commentary of the goal quite a lot following the final. It went along the lines of "he must score, he's scoooored, Peter Withe has got the goal, Tony Morley for the first time tonight got the ball over...."
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: richard moore on March 09, 2012, 08:07:39 PM
The result is even more impressive when you take into account Watford were runners up to Liverpool that season. The two other things I remember about that season's FA cup was Mark Walter's winner at Northampton in the third round and cheering on United in the final. We needed them to win and qualify for the Cup Winners Cup so we could take their UEFA Cup place.

Remember Walter's goal too, spun on a sixpence dragging the ball under his foot a la that famous Cruyff move! I was at that game, think we won it just 1-0 through Mark's goal
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: villan from luton on March 09, 2012, 11:27:08 PM
Walters goal at Northampton was great, anyone remember his cousin (I think), who used to do the ball juggling at half time sometimes
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: big 1st serve on March 09, 2012, 11:30:21 PM
 Villa @ Northampton, 1983

  A great picture of the Villa end in Terry Weirs book,

  in the old ground , which I think was only 3 sided as it sort of merged with the cricket ground if I remember .

 
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2012, 11:31:22 PM
'And it must be and it is' - anybody got an idea how any other commentators waxed lyrical about our greatest moment

WM said "And in Rotterdam, former Wolves striker Peter Withe has just put Villa into the lead. Now back to Molineux."
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 31, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
Walters goal at Northampton was great, anyone remember his cousin (I think), who used to do the ball juggling at half time sometimes

I remember as a kid he was on Record breakers with Roy Castle.
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: The Left Side on April 02, 2012, 03:57:16 AM
Walters goal at Northampton was great, anyone remember his cousin (I think), who used to do the ball juggling at half time sometimes

I remember as a kid he was on Record breakers with Roy Castle.

Ithink his name is Rod, i remember him on RB too!
Title: Re: Villa 4 Watford 1 FAC5, Feb 1983
Post by: luke95 on April 06, 2012, 10:43:34 AM
Walters goal at Northampton was great, anyone remember his cousin (I think), who used to do the ball juggling at half time sometimes

I remember as a kid he was on Record breakers with Roy Castle.

Ithink his name is Rod, i remember him on RB too!

It was Robert if my memory is correct !
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