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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PaulWinch again on February 23, 2012, 10:27:42 AM
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I've just been having a look on Skysports and Mcleish has said there are talks ongoing with Carlos over a new contract. I'm surprised but would be pretty happy if it does come to something.
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Good player and will cost us to replace him, so I'm OK with this.
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I hope he signs a new contract.
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If he gets a long stint starting at CB now and -more importantly- looks the part, it would save us having to fork out for a new CB (well two new ones, I still think we could do with a shake up there regardless).
Thing is, three managers in a row have been unsure about him in his favoured position, so there must be something in that.
But only going on the evidence of my own eyes, he's looked decent there. Apart from that period when he had Curtis Davies alongside him.
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Why would he? he's spent most of his career on the bench?
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I thought we wanted to reduce the wage bill?
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I thought we wanted to reduce the wage bill?
Not at the expense Of the better players. If that was the case we could save money by
Offloading bent and given as well
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It's funny that if he wasn't injured during the summer,he may have been sold,after playing him AM has seen how good Carlos is. Shame he didn't do the same with Jean the second.
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I thought we wanted to reduce the wage bill?
We'll need to pay what he is on, or close to it, to replace him, plus a transfer fee. So this will effectively save money, if he signs.
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Exactly John.
Of course the downside is if he impresses over the next few months, he puts himself in the shop window and becomes even more attractive as a free agent.
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Must say my flabber is truly gasted. Thought they wanted rid at any cost, so i'm guessing the manager has realised he's worth keeping more than the other two. Like Carlos i must say, never causes trouble, got forced into playing right-back when he arrived and never recovered his confidence and since then he's always been the one who gets dropped seemingly. Hopefully this is the start of the club choosing to keep/sell players based on their ability rather than how long they have left on their contract
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A surprising but promising move.
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About bleeding time,but I worry it's too late.
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My mate (one of the original five 'supporters representatives') had another meeting with AM the other week, and reckons he told him that Cuellar is our best defender and wanted to keep him but Lerner wanted him off the wage bill because of his contract running out. So if true, maybe it's a good sign re:wages. Then again, it's probably a good idea even if we end up selling him, as at least we'll get a fee.
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Good to hear this.
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I would see how Carlos does whilst Dunn is out of the side...IF he does ok then I would consider giving him a new contract, but on the same terms as he is on NOW!!, I would be amazed if another club would pay him 35k a week, in this country or in Spain.
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My mate (one of the original five 'supporters representatives') had another meeting with AM the other week, and reckons he told him that Cuellar is our best defender and wanted to keep him but Lerner wanted him off the wage bill because of his contract running out. So if true, maybe it's a good sign re:wages. Then again, it's probably a good idea even if we end up selling him, as at least we'll get a fee.
If that is true and I have no reason to doubt it,we really have given up.
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Thing is, three managers in a row have been unsure about him in his favoured position, so there must be something in that.
I think Carlos' problem is that he gets on with it and just wants to play so they can stick him at at right back and he doesn't argue, almost like a utility player. If they played Dunne or Collins out of position they're more likely to question the manager. Personally I think he's the best defender we have so good news if we're trying to keep him.
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My mate (one of the original five 'supporters representatives') had another meeting with AM the other week, and reckons he told him that Cuellar is our best defender and wanted to keep him but Lerner wanted him off the wage bill because of his contract running out. So if true, maybe it's a good sign re:wages. Then again, it's probably a good idea even if we end up selling him, as at least we'll get a fee.
I agree.
Mind you, the flip side is that Carlos can turn down a new contract, go somewhere else on a free and kerching it in by getting a big signing on wad in the absence of a fee.
Until recent events, I'd have put money on his going to Rangers. Can't imagine that's going to happen now.
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Until recent events, I'd have put money on his going to Rangers. Can't imagine that's going to happen now.
Maybe that's why the timing of that is what it is. He wanted to go back to Rangers, but can't now so is open to staying?
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I like the idea of him staying but he must be played more.
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I would see how Carlos does whilst Dunn is out of the side...IF he does ok then I would consider giving him a new contract, but on the same terms as he is on NOW!!, I would be amazed if another club would pay him 35k a week, in this country or in Spain.
And if they did that and he played well, his wage demands would go up and they'd be blamed for not signing him up earlier.
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I like the idea of him staying but he must be played more.
I'd like to see him given a run at CB with Clark alongside him.
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Sign him up. He's quite clearly our best centre half and has played well when called upon this season. I'd rather sell Dunne to be honest.
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I'm happy to hear this but very very surprised. Hopefully, an agreement will be reached and he will get a run in the side. Though I'm not holding out much hope as I think he fancies a move home and regular first team football which he hasn't had previously with us.
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He's our best defender yet he's hardly played him? i know he was injured but there was a period he was no-where near the team, utter bollocks from the ginger ninja
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he told him that Cuellar is our best defender and wanted to keep him but Lerner wanted him off the wage bill
He thinks he is our best defender yet doesn't play him. This does not add up, as there have been numerous opportunities to select him where he hasn't. He's either lying/misquoted or Collins and Dunne have clauses stipulating they must play when fit (MON/Faulkner would not be that stupid would they?!).
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I would be happy if he signs a new deal.
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I hope Carlos sign’s a new deal but also hope his good form over the last few games hasn’t been to earn a better deal or a good move at the end of the season but rather down to his desire to cement a place in the team.
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I understand the scepticism regarding my post.
Assuming my mate reported what was said accurately, I can only assume that AM not picking Carlos, when fit,
was something to do with thinking that CC wouldn't be staying because of his contract situation,
and preferring to use the players still here beyond the summer.
Further to this point, however, my pal reckons that AM can't go public on what he thinks of certain others as he wants to try and sell them in the summer.
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I understand the scepticism regarding my post.
Assuming my mate reported what was said accurately, I can only assume that AM not picking Carlos, when fit,
was something to do with thinking that CC wouldn't be staying because of his contract situation,
and preferring to use the players still here beyond the summer.
Further to this point, however, my pal reckons that AM can't go public on what he thinks of certain others as he wants to try and sell them in the summer.
Are these players involved with the team? Do you know who he is referring to?
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Good news if they have started contract talks but will Cuellar want assurances that he will be played at centre half?
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Good news if they have started contract talks but will Cuellar want assurances that he will be played at centre half?
No idea. The club should never agree to such demands any way.
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If its players who are trouble then I can think of 3 from what I've heard, Collins, Dunne & Warnock
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If its players who are trouble then I can think of 3 from what I've heard, Collins, Dunne & Warnock
Interesting.
Cause most trouble or most hated by the fans? It seems a bit of a coincidence that they're the ones causing trouble and also making the most mistakes. I'm not saying you've not heard these rumours but it would not surprise me if they've been created/exaggerated to support the fan's agendas.
(Apologies in advance if you've heard this from inside the club)
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I hope this works out and he signs again. He is not the ultimate centre half but he is the best we have had since Olly and Laurssen. Clarke is likely to benefit more from playing alongside Carlos than the other two in my view.
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The players AM mentioned selling would match the consensus on here and elswhere, although from what I was told it's about ability, not trouble-making.
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I hope he signs on for another few seasons.
He's a better left back than Warnock at the moment, can play right back and in the centre.
Sign him up.
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The players AM mentioned selling would match the consensus on here and elswhere, although from what I was told it's about ability, not trouble-making.
Not much disagreement there either.
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my pal reckons that AM can't go public on what he thinks of certain others as he wants to try and sell them in the summer.
It never stopped John Gregory.
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Whilst i don't like seeing players get injured, i'm glad Carlos is going to get a deserved run in the side, his attitude has earned him that if nothing else. As for a new contract, it would be a good move.
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Good news, get rid of the two carthorses and keep CC!
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I like Carlos, has been very unlucky to be dropped as soon as the calamity sisters are fit, decent centre half, be good to keep but I would like to see him get a run in the team.
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Hu-fucking-ray. At last some sense, keep your better players and replace the shit ones. IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE
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Should really have had another 50 games under his belt with us by now.
Get him signed up.
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I think we're due a major clear out, however Carlos is a player who should be kept to help the new players bed in. From the start he has been played wildly out of position but has never complained. I think he'd have been twice the player for us if he'd been allowed to stay at centre back from the start. Despite what MON and The Oaf think, a player is likely to lose confidence if asked to play in a position in which he is uncomfortable.
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Happy with this as I like Carlos.
Makes sense to keep Carlos and try to bin the other two....Carlos can play centre back and both full backs positions pretty well...can you imagine the sight of Dunne or Collins playing right or left back?!
He is 30 though so wouldn't offer more than a 2 year deal.
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I thought we wanted to reduce the wage bill?
We'll need to pay what he is on, or close to it, to replace him, plus a transfer fee. So this will effectively save money, if he signs.
Exactly.
Carlos leaves so we need a centre back who can also play at right back.
QPR go down so Nedum Onouha becomes a target as he can play both positions. He'd cost 3-4m and it's fair to say he's on a bigger whack than what Carlos gets here.
It makes sense to try to get him to stay but if he wants to go back to Spain fair enough.
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In other news, looks like Samba is off to Russia tomorrow to join Anzi.
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In other news, looks like Samba is off to Russia tomorrow to join Anzi.
And he thought Blackburn was cold.
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my pal reckons that AM can't go public on what he thinks of certain others as he wants to try and sell them in the summer.
It never stopped John Gregory.
Well it did actually. How many players did JG sell? Mainly he left behind old, overpaid players with no sell-on value and it took all of GT MK2 and most of DOL for the club to recover financially.
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Always thought Carlos wanted to go back to Rangers - but considering they will be relying on sales of the big issue to keep afloat i doubt they could afford him - so seems natural that as he hardly plays he is very much out of the shop window so he may as well stay
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Always thought Carlos wanted to go back to Rangers - but considering they will be relying on sales of the big issue to keep afloat i doubt they could afford him - so seems natural that as he hardly plays he is very much out of the shop window so he may as well stay
Agreed, there is not a chance he heads off to Rangers anytime soon given their plight. At the moment I would say it is 50/50 between him resigning (hopefully for two years or so) or moving back to Spain.
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From the start he has been played wildly out of position but has never complained.
'Wildly' out of position? He played for a while at right back, and was pretty decent at it, it's not like we did a Scimeca on him and stuck him up front with Benty is it?
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From the start he has been played wildly out of position but has never complained.
'Wildly' out of position? He played for a while at right back, and was pretty decent at it, it's not like we did a Scimeca on him and stuck him up front with Benty is it?
Im far from criticising him, He isn't a natural full back. He's regularly turned inside out and is not fast enough in attack, although to his credit he's better than the Chuckle Brothers put together.
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Are the Chuckle brothers Dunne and Collins or Hutton and Warnock?
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Are the Chuckle brothers Dunne and Collins or Hutton and Warnock?
Take your chuffing pick.
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Indeed, hence my confusion.
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Don't know about The Chuckle Brothers, but Warnock is certainly Terry Fuckwit from Viz.
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Chuckle Brothers = Dunne and Collins
Dumb and Dumber = Hutton and Warnock
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Great news if it is true, get it signed. The best Centre Half at the club needs to be played, well this may sound daft but at Centre Half.