Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: bilsim on February 09, 2012, 12:35:30 PM
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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/3pm/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-s-white-polo-neck-was-it-borrowed-from-Deidre-Barlow-Steve-Anglesey-s-funny-football-column-article862027.html (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/3pm/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-s-white-polo-neck-was-it-borrowed-from-Deidre-Barlow-Steve-Anglesey-s-funny-football-column-article862027.html)
If you think Alex McLeish has an uneasy relationship with Villa fans after crossing the Birmingham divide, spare a thought for Tommy Mooney.
The former Blues striker is now on McLeish’s youth team coaching staff – but attends first team games at Villa Park in disguise to prevent getting hassle from home fans with long memories.
Apologies if this has been posted before, but it's the first I've heard of it. Can't help but wonder why on earth someone like him would be hired, reeks of incompetence to me, and I'm by no means one of the doom and gloom brigade.
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what do you mean 'someone like him'??
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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/3pm/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-s-white-polo-neck-was-it-borrowed-from-Deidre-Barlow-Steve-Anglesey-s-funny-football-column-article862027.html (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/3pm/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-s-white-polo-neck-was-it-borrowed-from-Deidre-Barlow-Steve-Anglesey-s-funny-football-column-article862027.html)
If you think Alex McLeish has an uneasy relationship with Villa fans after crossing the Birmingham divide, spare a thought for Tommy Mooney.
The former Blues striker is now on McLeish’s youth team coaching staff – but attends first team games at Villa Park in disguise to prevent getting hassle from home fans with long memories.
Apologies if this has been posted before, but it's the first I've heard of it. Can't help but wonder why on earth someone like him would be hired, reeks of incompetence to me, and I'm by no means one of the doom and gloom brigade.
Perhaps because he is good at his job?
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Old news!
Thread closed?
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Personally,I wouldn't recognise him if he was in my local sainsburys dressed in a blues tutu.
Can't imagine too many of our faithful having more than a vague recollection of him playing for them
Didn't he start out as a apprentice at Villa?
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Fucking hell, some people will moan about anything. As Lee said, maybe he's good at his job?
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Maybe he can bring the thing lots of the youth team appear to not have traditionally had, the drive, desire and application to go along with their talent?
I don't care where he used to play if he can turn more of the youth team into first team regulars.
As for attending in disguise, I think wearing the stilletos and ball gown is taking it too far.
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Who?
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Is he the bloke on the front of the latest H&V?
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If he's doing a good job, I couldn't care a less that he played for them.
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Is he the bloke on the front of the latest H&V?
Only with his trousers down
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Is he the bloke on the front of the latest H&V?
Only with his trousers down
Well done sir. ;D
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Incompetence?
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Is he the bloke on the front of the latest H&V?
No, that was John Mooney.
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If Paul Tait was a top youth coach I'd hire him without blinking.
I'd shit in his lunch box mind.
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but it's the first I've heard of it. Can't help but wonder why on earth someone like him would be hired, reeks of incompetence to me, and I'm by no means one of the doom and gloom brigade.
So you are an expert on the coaching abilities of the north-east lad who started at Villa before becoming a regular at Scarborough and Watford (where surely most people will remember him from?) before playing just a handful of games for Blues?
You must be, you have called it incompetence that we have hired him.
Animotion had a song for the likes of you.
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I Engineer? That doesn't make any sense.
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I Engineer? That doesn't make any sense.
Tell me you had to Google that Maz.
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Paul Tait would definitely have to wear a disguise. In fact, he should have worn one to the League Cup game last year, then he might not have got his arm broken by somebody wielding a road sign. Not that I'm condoning such behaviour. It was very wrong indeed.
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Paul Tait would definitely have to wear a disguise. In fact, he should have worn one to the League Cup game last year, then he might not have got his arm broken. Not that I'm condoning such behaviour. It was very wrong indeed.
For sure. *straight face*
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I Engineer? That doesn't make any sense.
Tell me you had to Google that Maz.
I'm affraid not. My head is an enclyclopedia of useless shit.
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Its getting a bit silly now, I also wouldnt know the man if I walked past him in the street
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Oh. My. God.
The Villa are being taken over by the Moonies!
Head for the hills!
They're indoctrinating our youth!
Sign a petition!
Join a Facebook group!
Spray a bedsheet!*
*No, not like that.
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Paul Tait would definitely have to wear a disguise. In fact, he should have worn one to the League Cup game last year, then he might not have got his arm broken. Not that I'm condoning such behaviour. It was very wrong indeed.
Yes, that was very... erm, unsavoury.Paul Tait would definitely have to wear a disguise. In fact, he should have worn one to the League Cup game last year, then he might not have got his arm broken. Not that I'm condoning such behaviour. It was very wrong indeed.
For sure. *straight face*
(http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/when-someones-yelling-at-you-and-they-pronouncea-a-word-wrong.gif)
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Good to see everyone condemning it.
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Sheesh, I only wanted to communicate the fact he'd been hired. I've heard him on a lot of phone ins and he seemed a bit of knob. Compared to some of the people we could have hired, Mooney seems a very peculiar choice. He wasn't a very good player and doesn't seem like a very nice bloke, so it seems that it's an unusual choice. I didn't expect to be made out to be some kind of obsessive idiot for making my opinion known. Infact, I didn't even refer to his Blues past, strange.
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Why are we meant to hate him? I've never heard of him before and it's not like he's a Paul Tait type figure. He's just some random Joe who used to play for them.
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Still, ta for the heads up Bil. Protest at Bodymoor anyone? Or is that too far?
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Sheesh, I only wanted to communicate the fact he'd been hired. I've heard him on a lot of phone ins and he seemed a bit of knob. Compared to some of the people we could have hired, Mooney seems a very peculiar choice. He wasn't a very good player and doesn't seem like a very nice bloke, so it seems that it's an unusual choice. I didn't expect to be made out to be some kind of obsessive idiot for making my opinion known. Infact, I didn't even refer to his Blues past, strange.
His appointment would have been made by Bryan Jones who is head of our Academy, a man that also has a history with the Rags but he's never let it get in the way of doing a fantastic job.
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Strange thread to me-an ex Villa trainee-he was groomed at the club and had a solid scoring record. He was gutted to be let go too-(he lodged at with one of my family). Ron Atkinson was in the same boat-big deal.
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Sheesh, I only wanted to communicate the fact he'd been hired. I've heard him on a lot of phone ins and he seemed a bit of knob. Compared to some of the people we could have hired, Mooney seems a very peculiar choice. He wasn't a very good player and doesn't seem like a very nice bloke, so it seems that it's an unusual choice. I didn't expect to be made out to be some kind of obsessive idiot for making my opinion known. Infact, I didn't even refer to his Blues past, strange.
Well, if you had simply communicated the fact that he'd been hired then I don't think you would have gotten the reaction you received. You tried to use this as a reason to have a go at the club, when, in reality, you've no idea whether it's a good appointment or not. Mourinho wasn't a good player and isn't a nice bloke, would you consider him to be a strange choice for villa manager (ignoring the fact he'd never join us)?
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Sheesh, I only wanted to communicate the fact he'd been hired. I've heard him on a lot of phone ins and he seemed a bit of knob. Compared to some of the people we could have hired, Mooney seems a very peculiar choice. He wasn't a very good player and doesn't seem like a very nice bloke, so it seems that it's an unusual choice. I didn't expect to be made out to be some kind of obsessive idiot for making my opinion known. Infact, I didn't even refer to his Blues past, strange.
So Villa are incompetent because they hired someone that you thought was a bit of a knob on the radio?
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Sheesh, I only wanted to communicate the fact he'd been hired. I've heard him on a lot of phone ins and he seemed a bit of knob. Compared to some of the people we could have hired, Mooney seems a very peculiar choice. He wasn't a very good player and doesn't seem like a very nice bloke, so it seems that it's an unusual choice. I didn't expect to be made out to be some kind of obsessive idiot for making my opinion known. Infact, I didn't even refer to his Blues past, strange.
So Villa are incompetent because they hired someone that you thought was a bit of a knob on the radio?
Nope, sorry if you're looking to tarnish me with the brush of somebody who's trying to criticise the club for anything that I can. The point I am making is that there are countless strikers who were/are vastly better than Tommy Mooney in their careers. It also seems to me that he is an unpleasant character and he certainly doesn't speak with any real insight about the game.
To me, appointing a Division 1 journeyman striker seems an odd choice, perhaps by delving into the semantics of my use of the word "incompetence", you've seen it as a slur on the club. I admit perhaps my wording was a little strong, but it still seems to me that when there are so many strikers who have performed at a high level, this particular choice is peculiar. It's not an anti-Blues thing and it's not an attempt to be part of the "McLeish Out, Lerner Out, Houllier Out, Ellis Out" brigade, it really is my suprise at the appointment of someone I'm surprised to see on the coaching staff.
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Sheesh, I only wanted to communicate the fact he'd been hired. I've heard him on a lot of phone ins and he seemed a bit of knob. Compared to some of the people we could have hired, Mooney seems a very peculiar choice. He wasn't a very good player and doesn't seem like a very nice bloke, so it seems that it's an unusual choice. I didn't expect to be made out to be some kind of obsessive idiot for making my opinion known. Infact, I didn't even refer to his Blues past, strange.
So Villa are incompetent because they hired someone that you thought was a bit of a knob on the radio?
Nope, sorry if you're looking to tarnish me with the brush of somebody who's trying to criticise the club for anything that I can. The point I am making is that there are countless strikers who were/are vastly better than Tommy Mooney in their careers. It also seems to me that he is an unpleasant character and he certainly doesn't speak with any real insight about the game.
To me, appointing a Division 1 journeyman striker seems an odd choice, perhaps by delving into the semantics of my use of the word "incompetence", you've seen it as a slur on the club. I admit perhaps my wording was a little strong, but it still seems to me that when there are so many strikers who have performed at a high level, this particular choice is peculiar. It's not an anti-Blues thing and it's not an attempt to be part of the "McLeish Out, Lerner Out, Houllier Out, Ellis Out" brigade, it really is my suprise at the appointment of someone I'm surprised to see on the coaching staff.
How does his playing career reflect on his coaching ability? Tony McAndrew was a journeyman, Sid was a genius.
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To be fair to bilslim, Mooney's ex thinks he's an absolute knob as well.
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He's rated very highly by the staff at BMH.
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You do know that your not allowed to have a different opinion than Dave Woodhall and the Barton Arms crew dont you?
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You do know that your not allowed to have a different opinion than Dave Woodhall and the Barton Arms crew dont you?
What utter rubbish.
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My opinion.
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You do know that your not allowed to have a different opinion than Dave Woodhall and the Barton Arms crew dont you?
You do know how tediously, childishly unoriginal you are don't you?
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My opinion.
Based on what?
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Lee N'B: doesn't every bloke's ex think their ex is an absolute fucking nob?
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Nope, sorry if you're looking to tarnish me with the brush of somebody who's trying to criticise the club for anything that I can. The point I am making is that there are countless strikers who were/are vastly better than Tommy Mooney in their careers. It also seems to me that he is an unpleasant character and he certainly doesn't speak with any real insight about the game.
To me, appointing a Division 1 journeyman striker seems an odd choice, perhaps by delving into the semantics of my use of the word "incompetence", you've seen it as a slur on the club. I admit perhaps my wording was a little strong, but it still seems to me that when there are so many strikers who have performed at a high level, this particular choice is peculiar. It's not an anti-Blues thing and it's not an attempt to be part of the "McLeish Out, Lerner Out, Houllier Out, Ellis Out" brigade, it really is my suprise at the appointment of someone I'm surprised to see on the coaching staff.
A great striker does not necessarily make a great coach, and vice versa of course.
You used the word incompetent, how else was I supposed to see your post other than a completely unwarranted attack on the club for appointing someone you have no knowledge of other than he was an average striker and sounded a bit off in an interview?
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My opinion.
Which you're not allowed to have.
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I'm mystified as to why he feels he has to come to games in disguise as I wouldn't recognise him unless he walked around with a big sign saying ' I'm Tommy Mooney'
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I'm mystified as to why he feels he has to come to games in disguise as I wouldn't recognise him unless he walked around with a big sign saying ' I'm Tommy Mooney'
He doesn't, it was made up by the Daily Mirror or some other rag. He probably wears a hat because it's cold.
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Maybe he thinks bilslim will recognise him?
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You do know that your not allowed to have a different opinion than Dave Woodhall and the Barton Arms crew dont you?
Can't help thinking we're the least intimidating crew ever, we've calmed down so much from the great lock out and stone throwing tale of yore.
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You do know that your not allowed to have a different opinion than Dave Woodhall and the Barton Arms crew dont you?
You wouldn't say that if they had a couple of Real Ales inside em.Bloody animals the lot of em.
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Is the Football Intelligence Unit aware of this sinister new firm? I think they should be told.
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You do know that your not allowed to have a different opinion than Dave Woodhall and the Barton Arms crew dont you?
You wouldn't say that if they had a couple of Real Ales inside em.Bloody animals the lot of em.
It's the Thai fries, all reason goes out of the window when they've been consumed. I've seen grown men, be vaguely dismissive of others opinions after a second bowl of those things.
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Just as long as he his good at is job that's all that matters.
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If Paul Tait was a top youth coach I'd hire him without blinking.
I'd shit in his lunch box mind.
I think I'd draw the line at Paul T**t. No problem with your menu suggestions, mind.