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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: bertlambshank on February 01, 2012, 04:10:12 PM
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Ok I would say nothing to play for this season,we have no money so its time to see how good our kids are.
I would start by bringing them into the defence and go from there.
They couldn't do any worse.
Big Eck's Babes anyone.
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Big Eck's Babes.
Sounds like a bad 80's porn film
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We are pretty much doing this anyway, I doubt theres a club in the country that has had a percentage of acadamy graduates representing the first team that is higher than what we have this season.
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I'd like to see the kids involved. However, don't think starting from the back would be the best idea!!
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I'd like to see the kids involved. However, don't think starting from the back would be the best idea!!
We have a rock solid defence at the moment.
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We are pretty much doing this anyway, I doubt theres a club in the country that has had a percentage of acadamy graduates representing the first team that is higher than what we have this season.
This always gets overlooked in the media,West Ham,Mboro,Arsenal get mentioned,never us,always pisses me off. Thats all,rant over.
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Lichaj in for Hutton would be a start. It wouldn't be a massive improvement but would bring some improvement.
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Big Eck's Babes anyone.
Babes has Man U connotations.
We say Minors in these parts. McLeish Minors.
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Admittedly when I was thinking of 'the kids', I was thinking more of players like Derrick Williams, Samir Carruthers etc. In all fairness, I do think Clark, Baker & Lichaj could do a job but that would have to be a gradual thing.
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Admittedly when I was thinking of 'the kids', I was thinking more of players like Derrick Williams, Samir Carruthers etc. In all fairness, I do think Clark, Baker & Lichaj could do a job but that would have to be a gradual thing.
Carruthers is in the squad tonight.
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Admittedly when I was thinking of 'the kids', I was thinking more of players like Derrick Williams, Samir Carruthers etc. In all fairness, I do think Clark, Baker & Lichaj could do a job but that would have to be a gradual thing.
Carruthers is in the squad tonight.
As Derrick Williams will be as well I'd expect. However, he won't be playing as it is far too soon for most of the generation coming through.
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Well Samir Carruthers tweeted excitedly yesterday that he's training with the first team today "With the first team tomorrow against QPR!!! Dreams can come true.. so happy right about now"
You see first XI? It's a dream to just be involved with Villa.
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He obviously meant training with the first XI. Good attitude.
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"Big Eckers Little Feckers"?
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It's time to put Eric and Edna in for sure, no doubt. Eric can do a job, we don't know about Edna but let's find out, look who he'll be replacing!
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There are enough kids in there already, although I don't see any harm in experimenting with the full-backs. I'm really struggling to see what all the fuss is about Bannan. Some tidy passes but never seems to split a defence or take anyone on. Overated IMO.
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Could Lichaj and Baker do any worse than Hutton and Warnock?
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I'd love to see all the kids get a start, firstly, to kick all the first team up the arse and secondly, to actually see what they can do, our youth team/reserves are more consistent for one thing. From what I've seen Eric is a fairly competent RB, and fair play Hutton as good as he could be has been pretty much cack for 95% of his tenure. Clark will be the next Cahill if he doesn't start more regularly and I can see Chris Herd being a lot like Everton's Tim Cahill. The thing is you can't just have a bunch of 21 year olds out there and the introductions need to be with the right balance of experience and a system that suits to their strengths.
My midfield would be Albrighton, the Zog, Petrov and Ireland, every 3rd game I'd Stick Bannan in for Ireland and rotate between Gardner and Bannan for example.
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There are enough kids in there already, although I don't see any harm in experimenting with the full-backs. I'm really struggling to see what all the fuss is about Bannan. Some tidy passes but never seems to split a defence or take anyone on. Overated IMO.
I don't think he's had a decent game since the drink drive incident.
Main one I want to see get minutes is Gardner.
Lichaj can play both full back positions so his chance can't be that far away with the two clowns we have there at the minute.
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Once we get to 40 points put a team out like this..............
Siegrist
Lichaj Clark Williams Baker
Gardner Herd Delph
Albrighton Bannan
Weimann
Subs, Barrett(gk), Stevens, Johnson, Delfouneso, Lowry, Carruthers.
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I get the impression that what we're seeing right now is sort of a trial period where they are getting their first team chance. Some will take it and some won't. What that then means is come the summer we'll have a better idea of where we need to buy.
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Once we get to 40 points put a team out like this..............
Siegrist
Lichaj Clark Williams Baker
Gardner Herd Delph
Albrighton Bannan
Weimann
Subs, Barrett(gk), Stevens, Johnson, Delfouneso, Lowry, Carruthers.
We'll have to buy Lowry back from Millwall then
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Once we get to 40 points put a team out like this..............
Siegrist
Lichaj Clark Williams Baker
Gardner Herd Delph
Albrighton Bannan
Weimann
Subs, Barrett(gk), Stevens, Johnson, Delfouneso, Lowry, Carruthers.
We'll have to buy Lowry back from Millwall then
Oh yeah I forgot that, He still showing with us on the OS.
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There are enough kids in there already, although I don't see any harm in experimenting with the full-backs. I'm really struggling to see what all the fuss is about Bannan. Some tidy passes but never seems to split a defence or take anyone on. Overated IMO.
Tend to agree re Bannan. Had a good game against Blues in the cup last year, neat and tidy-ish in his passing and shows lots of confidence in grabbing free kicks. However his freekicks have been mostly poor, his attempts at incisive passes tend to be over ambitious and easily cut out, and his general play is a bit underwhelming. Nowhere near as good as he seems to think he is. I was hoping for more.
Also agree about the FB's, difficult to see how they could be any worse.
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It is nice to keep the kids in the team but don't cut out Stephen Ireland or Darren Bent as we need them.
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It's time to put Eric and Edna in for sure, no doubt. Eric can do a job, we don't know about Edna but let's find out, look who he'll be replacing!
It's ENDA.
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It's time to put Eric and Edna in for sure, no doubt. Eric can do a job, we don't know about Edna but let's find out, look who he'll be replacing!
It's ENDA.
Yes but Edna sounds better.
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There are enough kids in there already, although I don't see any harm in experimenting with the full-backs. I'm really struggling to see what all the fuss is about Bannan. Some tidy passes but never seems to split a defence or take anyone on. Overated IMO.
I don't think he's had a decent game since the drink drive incident.
Main one I want to see get minutes is Gardner.
Lichaj can play both full back positions so his chance can't be that far away with the two clowns we have there at the minute.
We could drop Hutton and Warnock, bring in Lichaj and tell him he has to cover both positions on his own and I still reckon he'd do a better job than those two combined have been.
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Gardner should be starting games before too long as Clark is starting to struggle a bit in central midfield, he's the main one I want to see play regularly between now and the end of the season.
I think the problem with Lichaj is he's a bit short of fitness, he was out for 4 months with a hip injury so can understand McLeish being reluctant to put him in. I would imagine it won't be too long before he's in one of the full back spots as he can play both sides.
I think Stevens will be sent on loan. I just don't see him going straight from the Irish league to the prem, it's a gigantic leap. He hasn't even made the bench yet which suggests he still needs to adapt a bit.
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I get the impression that what we're seeing right now is sort of a trial period where they are getting their first team chance. Some will take it and some won't. What that then means is come the summer we'll have a better idea of where we need to buy.
I agree John. I much prefer that sort of structured approach where they get their opportunity alongside more experienced players to help them learn the ropes rather than just chuck them all in and let them sink or swim.
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It's time to put Eric and Edna in for sure, no doubt. Eric can do a job, we don't know about Edna but let's find out, look who he'll be replacing!
It's ENDA.
I know, no offence meant and apologies if any caused, but it sounds brilliant with Eric at RB! Only a bit of fun intended.