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Title: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Rick_avfc on January 27, 2012, 02:41:48 PM
http://tinyurl.com/7obzvaf

Never knew he was in any financial difficulty
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 27, 2012, 02:42:07 PM
He's probably pissed it all up the wall.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: manic-road on January 27, 2012, 03:07:11 PM
Tough, he was on a top wage and wasted his money and wasted his career.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: jimmygreen on January 27, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
Did he stick all his lucre into an Italian mid-range Mediterranean cruise company?
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: NeilH on January 27, 2012, 03:21:12 PM
Tanning salons in the Solihull area must be in a state of shock.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 27, 2012, 03:24:48 PM
it's hard to feel sorry when they get so much and manage to waste it all. They don't always accept advice at the time, and they see themselves as invincible. Then a combination of their own largesse and others using them takes it's toll until one day the card gets declined at a store or restaurant and it starts to sink in that they're fucked.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: joe_c on January 27, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
it's hard to feel sorry when they get so much and manage to waste it all. They don't always accept advice at the time, and they see themselves as invincible. Then a combination of their own largesse and others using them takes it's toll until one day the card gets declined at a store or restaurant and it starts to sink in that they're fucked.

Could just as easily apply to his talent that...
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Rick_avfc on January 27, 2012, 03:36:42 PM
I agree, it is very hard to feel sorry for him especially on the wages he was on.  Just shows he was ill advised about his money and probably had "friends" who sponged off him.  Its hard to think how he managed to piss all that money away.  I mean, according to that article, he was earning £24k per week at the height of his career.  Some people dont even earn that in a year but still manage to keep their house in order.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 27, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
As he said to some kids when driving off in his Ferrari after he got sent off at Tamworth: "You might afford one of these one day."

Taxi for Mr Hendrie.


Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 27, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
As he said to some kids when driving off in his Ferrari after he got sent off at Tamworth: "You might afford one of these one day."

Taxi for Mr Hendrie.


if he can afford it. It's stories like that mean a bike might be more his level with a lot of people giving him the wanker sign as he pedals off.


Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Concrete John on January 27, 2012, 03:44:47 PM
I imagine he was trying to keep up the livestyle of a £24k a week footballer long after he was one, such as driving a Ferrari when playing for Tamworth, and this has caused the problem.  If so, then it's probably a matter of ego as much as anything, which still results in the same "I don't feel sorry for him" verdict.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 27, 2012, 03:45:19 PM
He banged Bruce's daughter that was the start of the slippery slope
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 27, 2012, 03:45:48 PM
He's not so much in the red as in the orange.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Malandro on January 27, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
Stupid tosser probably left the money with his bank
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: waynejames on January 27, 2012, 04:13:25 PM
More money than sense.
What a pleb.

Welcome to the real world Mr Hendrie.

Good Luck, you will need it.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 27, 2012, 04:22:00 PM
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More money than sense.

If he was down to his last fiver he'd still have more money than sense
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Diablo on January 27, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
What a shame. Although I didn't like his silly cars and tan I always had a bit of a soft spot for him. Don't wanna see anyone struggle, especially not someone who put some good shifts in a Villa shirt.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Chris Harte on January 27, 2012, 04:23:51 PM
Incredible to think that players like this don't think to stick some of their weekly "earnings" away. Its probably what happens when a player is surrounded by hangers-on rather than anyone who can actually give them guidance or drum some sense into them.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TheSandman on January 27, 2012, 04:25:42 PM
I have absolutely zero sympathy with him. He's pissed his talent and money down the drain and it's entirely his own fault.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: philthebar on January 27, 2012, 04:27:11 PM
Wouldn't wish this situation on anybody.

What a waste of talent and money.

Shame
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 27, 2012, 04:27:31 PM
Incredible to think that players like this don't think to stick some of their weekly "earnings" away. Its probably what happens when a player is surrounded by hangers-on rather than anyone who can actually give them guidance or drum some sense into them.

Quite.

Some stories are just waiting to happen, this is one of them.

He's going to need some true friends now, wake up call alright.



Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: NeilH on January 27, 2012, 04:57:27 PM
My sister does the accountants for a number of Premiership footballers. I've got stories that would make you cry out 'they did what?'
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Rick_avfc on January 27, 2012, 05:02:37 PM
My sister does the accountants for a number of Premiership footballers. I've got stories that would make you cry out 'they did what?'

Please share!  I could do with a laugh.  You dont have to mention the players name or club, just what they have pissed their money away on  ;D
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: DrGonzo on January 27, 2012, 05:09:38 PM
Christ, fake tan manafacturers will be leaping from the roof tops.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 27, 2012, 05:27:54 PM
There's a difference between bankrupt and skint. I bet he's still got more than any of us have.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: shipscat on January 27, 2012, 05:42:16 PM
Bet he's "somehow" managed to keep hold of his little property empire for a rainy day.

One thing I will say for Lee,he always give the impression that he actually enjoyed playing the art and act of football.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Jimmy Smash on January 27, 2012, 05:59:41 PM
I'll bet he regrets burning those £50 notes in Solihull pubs and clubs during his "golden years."
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Nev on January 27, 2012, 06:06:16 PM
I heard a story that is unlikely but I always want to believe that it was true.

A mate was driving past Henrie's house early one Saturday morning when the Orange tinted midfielder staggered out if his front door, clutching a bottle of Champers and preceded to be vomit all over the luxury car parked on the drive.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 27, 2012, 06:13:43 PM
He should check out the gambling is great thread!
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on January 27, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
With 20 grand a week wages - he should only spend one week wages each month max as he doesn't need to spend 90 grand a month.

What do you buy apart from nice house and sport car. That is 1.5 millions let say 2 year salary and what about the rest.
 
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 27, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
With 20 grand a week wages - he should only spend one week wages each month max as he doesn't need to spend 90 grand a month.

What do you buy apart from nice house and sport car. That is 1.5 millions let say 2 year salary and what about the rest.
 

Hookers and class As. Wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: rjp on January 27, 2012, 06:36:26 PM
He still has 2 very nice houses, one in Solihull and one in Warwickshire.  There were some pictures of one of them in the press when his mate got done for robbing him a little while ago.  It didn't look like the kind of pad that most of us will ever own (£££).

(edit): There's a picture of the 2nd house here (http://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069881/Footballer-Trevor-Franciss-son-charged-breaking-Lee-Hendries-mansion.html) and they reckon it's worth £1.7m.  I suppose we don't know how big his debts are though.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 27, 2012, 07:03:21 PM
Looks to me like the HMRC want him to sell a house to pay them back.

If that's the case, and he let them make him bankrupt just to get their money, he must have a shit accountant.

As Dave says, he's probably still got quite a decent nett worth after it's been sorted.

Again, not knowing the full picture of course...
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Shrek on January 27, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
He isn't actually bankrupt yet is he?

The Hmrc have applied for it in his absence, he'll just pay the minimum won't he.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Olneythelonely on January 27, 2012, 07:35:45 PM
Saw him and Barry outside the Elbow Room a fair few years ago. Custard pants was alright, Hendrie was an arsehole of the highest order.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: hawkeye on January 27, 2012, 07:38:01 PM
There's a difference between bankrupt and skint. I bet he's still got more than any of us have.
That depends on if he managed to shelter some assets and or money and wether he took advice early enough. There are some pretty dodgy Insolvency Practitioners out there.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Jimmy Smash on January 27, 2012, 07:48:29 PM
With 20 grand a week wages - he should only spend one week wages each month max as he doesn't need to spend 90 grand a month.

What do you buy apart from nice house and sport car. That is 1.5 millions let say 2 year salary and what about the rest.

You're talking from a normal persons perspective.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: damon loves JT on January 27, 2012, 08:41:00 PM
I would buy some comics e.g. The Beano Dandy Whizzer & Chips say, £2

Also have a Chinese on Thursdays, crispy duck, Singapore noodles, £8

Petrol in the car, half a tank, say £30

Couple of 500ml bottles Coca-Cola or Pepsi, say £1.50

That's still only £31.50 leaving £19,968.50 each week


Is crazy silly stuff
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 27, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
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Mrs Registrar Derrett heard that there had been no contact from Hendrie, no letters had been returned and no payments made.
She said she was making the bankruptcy order "in the absence of any contact".

I'm sure he is not broke though no doubt he is not the shrewdest with money.
Sounds to me like his head is so far up his own arse, he thinks being Lee Hendrie he can completely ignore HMRC.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Aston Manor on January 27, 2012, 09:20:35 PM
I would buy some comics e.g. The Beano Dandy Whizzer & Chips say, £2

Also have a Chinese on Thursdays, crispy duck, Singapore noodles, £8

Petrol in the car, half a tank, say £30

Couple of 500ml bottles Coca-Cola or Pepsi, say £1.50

That's still only £31.50 leaving £19,968.50 each week


Is crazy silly stuff


Spend the rest on some tea-light candles with essence of jasmine, tea-tree oils, summer nights pot-pourri, and a selection of pashminas. With rest of the money get a hooker to blow you in a bath of beans whilst watching Barrymore's 'Strike it Lucky'.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: olaftab on January 27, 2012, 11:10:55 PM
He was living 3 doors from me till he got his fat contract. Moved but gave the house to family members. I hope they are not affected by this issue.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 27, 2012, 11:17:47 PM
When I was working in Solihull, one Saturday morning I saw lee drop two girls off at the bus stop who got out his car wearing dressing gowns!
Not even joking!
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: eamonn on January 27, 2012, 11:32:16 PM
I imagine he was trying to keep up the livestyle of a £24k a week footballer long after he was one, such as driving a Ferrari when playing for Tamworth, and this has caused the problem.  If so, then it's probably a matter of ego as much as anything, which still results in the same "I don't feel sorry for him" verdict.

Pedant: He was playing for Villa in a friendly at Tamworth. Dave Cooper and his mates and the players were giving Henders stick and he didn't take it well.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 28, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
Does bankruptcy equate to avoidance of any further tax liabilities? Experts on all subjects (but never having won University Challenge) please advise.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: damon loves JT on January 28, 2012, 06:24:55 AM
I don't like pot pourri. It doesn't taste of anything and it gives me bad guts.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on January 28, 2012, 07:13:32 AM
Barry Bannan take note - this is what happens when you become a millionaire at 21 behave like a cock and don't achieve your potential. Get your head down, get some financial advice (speak to Randy), don't attract shit publicity and let the football do the talking.

If Little Lee can't pay his debts maybe he could do some voluntary work? Alternatively I'm sure he could get a slot on Soccer Saturday wth the rest of the no fixed aboders.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: john e on January 28, 2012, 09:08:44 AM
when you go bankrupt everything you own belongs to the official reciever, and they will decide what you can keep and need to live on,
 the rest including houses and cars and any other major assets gets shared out amongst the creditors.

if he was advised and they have been planning the bankruptcy for some time he may have moved his assets ie his houses into other peoples names, although this is a old trick that the reciever will be aware of so its not all that easy.

if the reciever feels information is being withheld or he is being decieved he has powers to drag the whole process on and uncover the fraud, and they will know all the tricks of the trade.

fortunatly for Hendrie, they are also very busy at the moment, and will want things to move as fast as they can, and sometimes are not as thorough as usual,
 not saying hendries got anything to hide, but weve all known people go bankrupt and the next day seem to have everything they had before with all there debts written of,
 its because it was a well planned out and probably started over a year ago, others however can be completely wiped out
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 28, 2012, 09:15:04 AM
I imagine he was trying to keep up the livestyle of a £24k a week footballer long after he was one, such as driving a Ferrari when playing for Tamworth, and this has caused the problem.

He never played for Tamworth, Dave W is on about a friendly that Villa played at The Lamb, he got sent off for fighting with Tamworth's Kyle Storer.
His brother played a couple of games for Tamworth and his Dad was manager for three years.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: darren woolley on January 28, 2012, 09:37:30 AM
He should've looked after his finances better.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: sidcowans10 on January 28, 2012, 09:44:54 AM
Hard to feel too sympathetic. He was searched for drugs in The Greenhouse last month by the doormen such is his reputation locally
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Chap on January 28, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
Sad to think at 34 if he had been sensible and had proper advice he could still be playing premier league or championship football.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Malandro on January 28, 2012, 10:17:35 AM
Despite his obvious foolishness, I hope he has plenty of support from family and friends.

Going from one extreme to the other in just over a decade, expecially for a young male, could very well put him at risk.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: OzVilla on January 28, 2012, 10:59:52 AM
Hardly surprising.  A fool and his money and all that.......
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: UK Redsox on January 28, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
Nothing on the Insolvency Register yet. I guess it'll take a few days to filter through the system.
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Post by: Macho Man Randy Savage on January 28, 2012, 11:53:05 AM
What happened to his testimonial in the end?
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 28, 2012, 12:15:52 PM
Fuck him - and fuck all the others who will no doubt come along over the coming years.  Beneficiaries of the Premier League largesse, earning small fortunes on the back of having reasonable talent to kick a football, what it the overall scheme of things, is worth jack shit.  I know how hard I work, along with most of my friends - and probably most of the people on here - to earn in a year what he was earning every 10th day or so.  If he's gone and squandered it, I've no sympathy whatsoever.  Perhaps he'll have to find a "proper" job now, one that pays what most of us have to get by on, and spend the next few years reflecting on how lucky he actually was.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Ad@m on January 28, 2012, 01:07:20 PM
As he said to some kids when driving off in his Ferrari after he got sent off at Tamworth: "You might afford one of these one day."

Taxi for Mr Hendrie.

When he went to Stoke on loan he apparently used to wind up the opposition players by asking them if they wanted to wash his Ferrari for a bit of extra money.

Grade A wanker.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Chris Smith on January 28, 2012, 01:16:13 PM
It takes a special type of stupidity to be bankrupt after earning the type of money he has. That said, it's his life and the only person suffering is Lee himself so I'm not going to moralise about it.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Jim Shoes on January 28, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
Despite his obvious foolishness, I hope he has plenty of support from family and friends.

Going from one extreme to the other in just over a decade, expecially for a young male, could very well put him at risk.

I used to know his uncle and the stories he told I doubt if many of his family will give a fly fuck about the shit head.

As it's all hearsay I'm not going to repeat the things he said but if they are even half true then he is a complete tosser.

No sympathy for someone who's 24k per week which was the same amount I was earning in a year working shifts at Land Rover around the same time.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: PeterWithe on January 28, 2012, 02:33:37 PM
I met him twice and he was sound as a pound on both occassions.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 28, 2012, 02:34:46 PM
He still has 2 very nice houses, one in Solihull and one in Warwickshire.  There were some pictures of one of them in the press when his mate got done for robbing him a little while ago.  It didn't look like the kind of pad that most of us will ever own (£££).

(edit): There's a picture of the 2nd house here (http://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069881/Footballer-Trevor-Franciss-son-charged-breaking-Lee-Hendries-mansion.html) and they reckon it's worth £1.7m.  I suppose we don't know how big his debts are though.

Strange how a mate would allegedly burgle your house and then bankruptcy occurs a short while later. I'm saying no more.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: eamonn on January 28, 2012, 03:28:08 PM
As he said to some kids when driving off in his Ferrari after he got sent off at Tamworth: "You might afford one of these one day."

Taxi for Mr Hendrie.

When he went to Stoke on loan he apparently used to wind up the opposition players by asking them if they wanted to wash his Ferrari for a bit of extra money.

Grade A wanker.

Under no provocation I'm sure. He was a gobby fecker but I'm sure it was equally dished out to him by hardmen players. His career/life is panning out quite predictably given what's happened up to now, unfortunately.

Maybe he could sit down with Dave Woodhall and write a book together on how (not) to live your life as a footballer. Might be worth a few bob to them both.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: preston28 on January 28, 2012, 05:25:06 PM
He banged Bruce's daughter that was the start of the slippery slope

oooh what a nasty thought..........................
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: LeeB on January 28, 2012, 05:32:07 PM
I met him twice and he was sound as a pound on both occassions.

I was at school with him for the last year before he joined us, and found him to be just that.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: villajk on January 28, 2012, 05:36:55 PM
I met him twice and he was sound as a pound on both occassions.

I was at school with him for the last year before he joined us, and found him to be just that.


I've met him twice as well and also found him to be just that.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 28, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Never one to miss a press opportunity...

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/01/28/lee-hendrie-bankrupt-sir-doug-ellis-urges-players-to-heed-a-financial-warning-97319-30216875/
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on January 29, 2012, 09:11:57 AM
Can't argue with Doug's comments although maybe he should have been giving these lads a steer in how to handle their finances.

Also Lee played over 300 games for Villa not 251 as reported and scored 32 goals but don't let the facts get in the way of a good story - poor research for the supposed Villa paper who should check the official records and not take Wikipedia as gospel.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 29, 2012, 03:19:39 PM
Never one to miss a press opportunity...

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/01/28/lee-hendrie-bankrupt-sir-doug-ellis-urges-players-to-heed-a-financial-warning-97319-30216875/

"Neither a lender or a borrower be"

He won't be bailing him out !
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: usav on January 29, 2012, 03:37:16 PM
He won't be bailing him out !

To be fair we don't know what Doug will do.   Can't argue with what he said, though.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Villanation on January 29, 2012, 06:14:03 PM
I met him twice and he was sound as a pound on both occassions.

I was at school with him for the last year before he joined us, and found him to be just that.

I've met him twice, once at a party in Solihull, bit flash but that's what I thought, as for his bankruptcy, friend of mine just went tits up and he was shocked at how civilised it all was, said the registrar couldn't do enough to help him, said he would get his discharge 12 months from now and the slate is wiped clean, Not the stigma attached to it there used to be, bit that's probably because it's become a very fashionable club  ;).
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 29, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
He won't be bailing him out !

To be fair we don't know what Doug will do.   Can't argue with what he said, though.

To be fair, that's a true quote from Sir Doug.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Warren Aspinall on January 29, 2012, 09:39:01 PM
As a footballer I had no time for Hendrie, mainly because I felt he was all hot air & bottled challenges. As a man i've heard countless stories about his arrogance towards those earning less than him, such as when he was on loan at Stoke & belittled a Colchester (I think) player about how much he was on. For me I hope in years to come he's doing nothing more than checking to see if i've paid my parking or not. I have no time whatsoever for him.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 30, 2012, 09:49:06 AM
He won't be bailing him out !

To be fair we don't know what Doug will do.   Can't argue with what he said, though.

To be fair, that's a true quote from Sir Doug.

I thought it was something along the lines of "Never give an apple to a woman who looks like a horse" or something?
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: john e on January 30, 2012, 09:53:41 AM
I met him twice and he was sound as a pound on both occassions.

I was at school with him for the last year before he joined us, and found him to be just that.

I've met him twice, once at a party in Solihull, bit flash but that's what I thought, as for his bankruptcy, friend of mine just went tits up and he was shocked at how civilised it all was, said the registrar couldn't do enough to help him, said he would get his discharge 12 months from now and the slate is wiped clean, Not the stigma attached to it there used to be, bit that's probably because it's become a very fashionable club  ;).


its true to say there is not the same stigma attached,
 but the slate is never wiped clean, every time you apply for anything from a mobile phone contract to you home contents insurance it comes back ' ex Bankrupt' its something he will take to the grave,
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Villanation on January 30, 2012, 04:14:04 PM
I met him twice and he was sound as a pound on both occassions.

I was at school with him for the last year before he joined us, and found him to be just that.

I've met him twice, once at a party in Solihull, bit flash but that's what I thought, as for his bankruptcy, friend of mine just went tits up and he was shocked at how civilised it all was, said the registrar couldn't do enough to help him, said he would get his discharge 12 months from now and the slate is wiped clean, Not the stigma attached to it there used to be, bit that's probably because it's become a very fashionable club  ;).


its true to say there is not the same stigma attached,
 but the slate is never wiped clean, every time you apply for anything from a mobile phone contract to you home contents insurance it comes back ' ex Bankrupt' its something he will take to the grave,

John, I beg to differ, your referring to credit reference agencies such as Experian and those other morons Equifax as well as a couple of others, they are only allowed to hold any records with regards to status or track record for a period of 6 years, after that its removed, if they are giving out someone's history beyond that and so blacklisting them, that could be illegal and you would be well entitled to go to the Official Receiver and look for a prosecution against them.

I know people that have been Bankrupt (hazard of business life and its the chance you take) who  6/ 7 years later have taken on considerable mortgages again, credit cards, hell I know of one case where the guy took on further credit such as mobile phones while his IVA was still effective, and he told them when he signed up that he was under an IVA Arrangement and blacklisted.

As I mentioned earlier mate of mine has just gone and he said all those months he spent worried crapless about how he was going to do this and that, after his business failed, said the registrar couldn't be more helpful, very very decent people indeed, and because he is married the only thing he's lost is his car, because it's in his name everything else and the fact that his wife by law owns 50% there was nothing anybody could do anything about.

The old Victorian days of sticking someone in prison for debt are well gone, and so they should.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 30, 2012, 04:15:39 PM
My sister does the accountants for a number of Premiership footballers. I've got stories that would make you cry out 'they did what?'
She does the accountants? naughty! :-P
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: UK Redsox on January 30, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
My sister does the accountants for a number of Premiership footballers. I've got stories that would make you cry out 'they did what?'
She does the accountants? naughty! :-P

I'm always on the look out for a girl that does accountants
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: john e on January 30, 2012, 05:05:04 PM
Villanation, i agree with a lot of what you say,

i am not an expert on Bankruptcy but as an ex Bankrupt myself i know the drill, i also attend a local support group so although mine was some time ago i keep up to date with the latest thinking.

it is true the official recievers are very good, non judgmental,  and do what they can to help, the only time they will not support you is if you lie to them about your circumstances, then they can get quite difficult, if you wear your heart on your sleeve and give them all  the information they require they they really can be a great help.

after 6 years the credit agencies do remove it from there records,
 and  during that time you can rebuild your credit rating and apply for credit again including mortgages and loans, but what i'm saying is it can and will crop up from time to time because for certain mortgages and insurances you will be asked 'have you ever been bankrupt' this doesnt mean you will be turned down, its just an admision that stays for life,
to be honest you can get credit before the 6 years are up if you have a proven record and the bank manager smiles on you, i did after 18 months, but i had a successfull business again and a good level of trust

i have a friend who was made bankrupt when he was 18 as a director of his fathers business he is 55 now and it still crops up now and again, not very often but its still there lurking thats what i mean when i say the slate is never quite wiped clean.

as for your friend who went bankrupt but kept his house, this happens all the time, recievers will never throw peoples families out on the street, but i can tell you absolutly horendous stories about banks, coming back and claiming the money because it was not part of the original bankruptcy.

i have another friend who's business went bust, he kept his house it was in joint names, he thought it had been dealt with at the time, even went to his soliciter for conformation, and 12 years later a debt of 15 k had grown to 75 k and he had to pay it, to cut a long story short he remortgaged his house again and paid up, you have to be very carefull even though you are declared bankrupt if you are allowed to keep certain assets, you can make youself open to a future claim, this is not hear say this is 100% fact.

no one gets thrown in jail anymore, and the whole performance whilst humiliating and arduous can become a great relief in the end, yes you build yourself back up again, and hopefully become successfull again,
if you google famous people who have been made bankrupt, you will see some big and famous not to say rich peoples names on there, so there is always hope

Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Villanation on January 30, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
Agree John, I think the part about the banks is horrific, and probably you will get people being very judgemental and all that, but its simply not reality, its a fact of life that sometimes we find ourselves in these situations, sometimes mistakes we make ourselves through greed or just being silly, or sometimes such as I found and escaped by the skin of my teeth which was due to an unpaid invoice, a large one, that plunged my business deep in it, and there I found myself right up against it, a few years ago now.

I myself work with Business link on a consultancy basis from time time and one of the people I work with is an Insolvency Practitioner (retired one, but very good) like me he thinks that these Credit Reference agencies are way out of control and what was originally just a bureau set up to help banks identify people in terms of lending and proof that these people are who they say they are, and nothing more than that, have now become this all powerful group, wielding enormous power over individual's lives, clandestine and overseen by nobody other than being registered with the Ministry of Justice and the FSA, which either of us could apply for and get. The other point being these are privately run companies that are funded by corporate bodies and he claims people have no idea what information they hold on them and that they can destroy people's lives simply by ticking a few boxes ( know as traffic light) and then this information is shared with the banks................

Then Joe Soap find's he can't get a mortgage, car finance, his credit cards are being reigned in, and then Sky turn around to him and say they want advance payment, all this because Joe has made 3 minimum payments consecutively on a credit card, or he's been late with a mortgage payment, even late with an energy bill is now sufficient for a downgrade.

I know this because I had a nephew that worked over at Experian in Notts.

His advice to a lot of people is, the minute you get into difficulty, don't stress, don't worry, do the deed, because the chances are you have been missing payments and getting into problems anyway so your credit rating is stuffed in any case for the next 6 years.

Anyway, brilliant you bounced back so fast and got straight back in there, music to my ears, don't let the bar stewards get you down as they say, played mate. 
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: eamonn on January 31, 2012, 01:21:07 AM
He won't be bailing him out !

To be fair we don't know what Doug will do.   Can't argue with what he said, though.

To be fair, that's a true quote from Sir Doug.

I thought it was something along the lines of "Never give an apple to a woman who looks like a horse" or something?

Eh? Wasn't it ''Only women and horses work for nothing''?
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Merv on January 31, 2012, 09:20:51 AM
I met him twice and he was sound as a pound on both occassions.

Yep. Early on in my career I met and interviewed him two or three times, usually went to his house to do the piece. He was a nice bloke, happy to give out his mobile number, always friendly the odd time I called. Perhaps a bit naive back then but seemed very genuine; I'm certainly sorry if it's turned out badly for him.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: DerHammer on January 31, 2012, 12:07:43 PM
My sister does the accountants for a number of Premiership footballers. I've got stories that would make you cry out 'they did what?'

I now a few people that have handled prem league players accounts too, when it comes to money they haven't got a clue. The smart ones invest, the stupid ones (about 97% of them) waste hundreds of thousands.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 31, 2012, 01:29:26 PM
I fear that this story will be about Stephen Ireland in ten years time.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 31, 2012, 02:25:59 PM
He won't be bailing him out !

To be fair we don't know what Doug will do.   Can't argue with what he said, though.

To be fair, that's a true quote from Sir Doug.

I thought it was something along the lines of "Never give an apple to a woman who looks like a horse" or something?

Maybe that as well - maybe he has a repertoire of EllisSpeakisms in his locker !
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 31, 2012, 02:29:24 PM
I fear that this story will be about Stephen Ireland in ten years time.

I think they are similar in many ways, but Ireland will have have to work a lot harder to piss his ( considerably larger) earnings down the drain.

As for Hendrie, those company directorships are all with media LLP's., the ones that don't seem to make many films ( allegedly).

 
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on January 31, 2012, 04:42:16 PM
Whilst sticking the boot into Lee Hendrie about his lifestyle and financial affairs, all of you have ignored the part his agent(s) and financial advisors must have played in his financial downfall.
Yes, he never did come across as someone who was grateful for the riches he earned from his god given talent. But he was in an age when footballers came to rely on other people to manage their financial affairs for them. Maybe they should be getting some stick for this too.
There are many tales of woe to be heard about footballers who have fallen on hard times but how much of it is their own fault? And how much is it a young man being misled by said agents and advisors who saw nothing but a gravy train to jump on and then abandon when things go tits up?
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Macho Man Randy Savage on January 31, 2012, 09:55:46 PM
What happened to his testimonial in the end?

Okay, apparently his testimonial did happen:

http://www.cassidygroup.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62&Itemid=37
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: eamonn on January 31, 2012, 10:37:04 PM
I remember a brief clip on Sky Sports News about that night, with Ron Atkinson talking a bit about Lee's career. A bit surprised that Bobby Robson was there. If I recall correctly that night was meant to be the first part of his 'testimonial' with an actual match to take place the following summer, 2008 when he was to have a joint testimonial match with Gareth Barry who would have had 10 years playing for the first time at that point. Hendrie's departure and the whole Barry to Liverpool saga presumably soured things so it never happened.

And I think Paul Stretford was his agent when Hendrie signed a five year deal in 2001(?). This is the same cute hoor who gets Man United to take it up the arse from his client Wazza Rooney these days when it comes to contract negotiations.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Chipsticks on February 08, 2012, 05:34:23 PM
When I was a wee lad, couldn't have been older than about 6 or 7. I remember going down to the park with my Dad to have a kick-a-bout and there was a big commotion about Lee Hendrie, who had turned up and was taking penaltys against any kids who fancied it, and if they scored past him he gave them a fiver. I didn't have a go myself but my step brother had a go and earned himself a tidy sum.

Also, I remember being really impressed that he had a playstation 2 built into the back of his car. Not suprised he's gone bankrupt when he flutters away his money like that.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: bertlambshank on February 10, 2012, 01:18:13 AM
Watching the greatest goals from 2004/2005 on ESPN Classic.The orange one has been on 4 times already.
What a start to the season and what a waste.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 10, 2012, 11:00:24 AM
Lee features frequently in the Best 100 Villa Goals DVD. On his day, a cracking little player.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 10, 2012, 11:22:17 AM
He had spells of being a really good player, then he'd disappear for a while...
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: usav on February 10, 2012, 01:47:02 PM
He had spells of being a really good player, then he'd disappear for a while...

We've had more than our fair share of those.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 11, 2012, 04:08:01 PM
I always thought he was the only person who was subtle enough to understand Angel's movement but he never quite stepped up to the level he could have been.  Hendrie's decline resulted in Angel becoming less and less productive.

No idea whether that is chronologically correct but I always associate the two of them together
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: avfc_1874 on February 11, 2012, 04:43:09 PM
A waste of talent.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: barrysleftfoot on February 11, 2012, 04:57:52 PM


  Not strong enough, not quick enough.A good football brain, just lacked to be really top quality
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: eamonn on February 11, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
I always thought he was the only person who was subtle enough to understand Angel's movement but he never quite stepped up to the level he could have been.  Hendrie's decline resulted in Angel becoming less and less productive.

No idea whether that is chronologically correct but I always associate the two of them together

Yep, both were on similar wavelengths in terms of space and movement. Hendrie's dummy to allow Angel/Dublin to slam home a shot happened a fair bit circa 2003-'05. And when he first broke through in '98, similiarly he, Yorke and Collymore (Savo at time) linked-up really well at times.
Title: Re: Lee Hendrie declared bankrupt!
Post by: Somniloquism on February 11, 2012, 09:21:47 PM
In Hindsight, his sending off within 10 minutes of his debut at Loftus road probably summed up his footballing career. Keen and with skill but ultimately stupid in his decisions.
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