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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Summers on January 21, 2012, 07:54:57 PM

Title: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Summers on January 21, 2012, 07:54:57 PM
From a conversation between him & myself happening now.

Cuellar24 Carlos Cuellar
The pursuit of happyness...

DaddyIsland Johnny Holmes
@Cuellar24 you mean the film or on a personal level?

Cuellar24 Carlos Cuellar
@DaddyIsland personal level mate

DaddyIsland Johnny Holmes
@Cuellar24 Villa related? Gutted you'll probably be leaving in the summer. You're the best defender at the club and a proper great guy.

Cuellar24 Carlos Cuellar
@DaddyIsland summer is to far my friend..

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Sad to hear.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: midnite on January 21, 2012, 08:18:51 PM
that is sad news to hear
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: TheSandman on January 21, 2012, 08:20:35 PM
It's not exactly a surprise is it?
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Summers on January 21, 2012, 08:29:25 PM
No, not at all.  But to hear him say it like that is a damn shame. Seems/sounds/reads very unhappy.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Dave Summers on January 21, 2012, 08:37:49 PM
He'd be in my team like a shot.  Don't care whether in front of Hutton or Collins, he should be in.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Irish villain on January 21, 2012, 08:47:14 PM
Very sad to read that.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: James on January 21, 2012, 08:47:30 PM
I saw a couple of weeks back that he's likely to go to Villareal or Espanyol before the month's out. Rather have him than Collins tbh, do you think those clubs would notice if we sent them Collins instead?  ;) I can only wish King Carlos the very best of luck.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Summers on January 21, 2012, 08:52:49 PM
Espanyol hopefully.. Soft spot for them. Villarreal are stuck in a relegation battle too.

Selfishly, I'd love him to stay and start games in the middle of our defence. As it is though, it'll never happen. I hope he gets the move he wants.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 21, 2012, 08:57:47 PM
Will get a bit of cash at least for him.

Good luck Carlos back home!
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 21, 2012, 09:26:09 PM
I'd be sad to see him go, even sadder that he's going and lesser centre halves are staying with guaranteed starting places.

I hope that the 'one in one out' comment from the summer still holds true and that this would free up funds for a new player, preferably a left back.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: hawkeye on January 21, 2012, 10:00:16 PM
Like many on here never quite understood why he hasnt been given more game time, the fact that Dunne and Collins are big mates probably has something to do with it.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: not3bad on January 21, 2012, 10:20:31 PM
Remember when he was our best player in a victory over Wolves.  Houllier's 2nd or 3rd game.  The very next match he was dropped.  He certainly has not had luck on his side.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Simba on January 21, 2012, 10:30:05 PM
I am more concerned that you reveal his thoughts. Is that the right thing to do?

Good player. Good person. Should be part of Villa. Bad decisions all round for him. One of the old/but modern school who should bring us on with the youngsters. Would hate to lose him.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: not3bad on January 21, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
I am more concerned that you reveal his thoughts. Is that the right thing to do?

Er... didn't he reveal his thoughts?  On Twitter?
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Villan For Life on January 21, 2012, 10:41:19 PM
I am more concerned that you reveal his thoughts. Is that the right thing to do?

Er... didn't he reveal his thoughts?  On Twitter?

Indeed. If you follow him on Twitter then it all plays out before your eyes.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Simba on January 21, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
Both right. I don't use twitter and realise it is a public forum. My mistake. Old.....
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 21, 2012, 10:44:12 PM
How Collins is continually picked ahead of him is a mystery to me. And yet a few Villa managers have made that decision the majority of the time. I wish I knew why.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Villan For Life on January 21, 2012, 10:50:44 PM
How Collins is continually picked ahead of him is a mystery to me. And yet a few Villa managers have made that decision the majority of the time. I wish I knew why.

That's the part that I don't get
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: ozzjim on January 21, 2012, 11:09:32 PM
Have to think that if he is off, then we have room to get one in wages wise.

We are desperate for a left back and a holding midfield player.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: eamonn on January 22, 2012, 02:22:53 AM
Er, I'm obviously missing something but he didn't exactly say he was off (didn't deny it either, in fairness). Just a coy answer about the summer.

The likelihood of course is that he will be. I just wonder, his replacement is likely to be a senior player (to complement the two Celtic cousins and Clacker), so why not just keep him? A replacement will be on cheaper wages presumably but there'll also be a likely transfer fee to cancel that out. Unless Carlos wants to go, and given his relative lack of games that's also very possible, I'd prefer him to stay. Top professional, clearly well-liked in the dressing room (if you see any of the team-bonding/having a lark bits of footage on avtv Carlos is always laughing and being friendly to the others) and above all a bloody good defender.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: JJ-AV on January 22, 2012, 03:33:19 AM
He's either an awful trainer or a not very good footballer and he's got most of us fooled.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: The Adventurer on January 22, 2012, 08:43:15 AM
Really sad news. No doubt that he's a better centre back than Collins but mysteriously just never gets a decent run.

Good luck Carlos.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Chris Smith on January 22, 2012, 08:52:51 AM
It shows a high level of hubris to think that successive managers have been wrong about Cuellar and that you are always right. He's a decent player but lacks concentration, aggression and is awkward on the ball; probably too nice a feller to be a good defender.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: eric woolban woolban on January 22, 2012, 11:33:06 AM
Did McLeish manage him at Rangers?
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2012, 11:38:28 AM
Shame he never really got a run in his prefered position, he's a decent defender.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Chipsticks on January 22, 2012, 12:14:06 PM
Such a massive, massive shame.

I along with clearly many others on here always rated Cuellar and I maintain the opinion that he has the talent to be starting for a decent, mid-table, established premier league club such as ourselves, if not higher. It's sad to see him almost waste his career with us.

Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 22, 2012, 12:19:26 PM
He is a great bloke and as a footballer, I'm not 100% sure.

He's a bit gangly, and played a RB is playing him out of position as his passing, let's say, wouldn't fit into the Barcelona team.

Rangers fans loved him - but Scotland's a foreign country, they do things differently there.

Good luck Carlos.



Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Chris Smith on January 22, 2012, 01:15:36 PM
Shame he never really got a run in his prefered position

That's a fair point, but when neither MON, Kev MaC, Houllier, McAllister or McLeish were willing to give him that chance it does suggest that he wasn't trusted. If it was just one of them you could put it down to favouritism but not with all of them.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: TaxDodger on January 22, 2012, 01:22:28 PM
I genuinely think he's better than all our centre halves, a better right back than Hutton and probably a better left back than Warnock too.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Chris Smith on January 22, 2012, 01:32:23 PM
I genuinely think he's better than all our centre halves, a better right back than Hutton and probably a better left back than Warnock too.

 The only time I remember him playing left back, in a cup game early last season, he was truly shit.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: LeeB on January 22, 2012, 01:44:45 PM
The one time he did get a run at centre half was with Davies, and it cost us a champions league spot.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Legion on January 22, 2012, 02:45:53 PM
Shame if he goes.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Nastylee on January 22, 2012, 05:03:51 PM
But no one can be surprised. A half decent player but not a great one as many people seem to suggest. Don't let the fact he's a model pro and appears to be a decent bloke detract from the fact he's nothing more than an average, run of the mill PL player.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: ez on January 22, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
Will be sorry to see him go. Probably our second best defender.
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Surrey Villain on January 23, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
Will be sorry to see him go. Probably our second best defender.

Just out of interest - who's the first?
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: QBVILLA on January 23, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
Will be sorry to see him go. Probably our second best defender.

Just out of interest - who's the first?

McLeish ::)
Title: Re: Carlos Cuellar on Twitter.
Post by: Rick_avfc on January 23, 2012, 12:46:09 PM
Good luck Carlos.  Will be gutted to see him go and a shame MON continuously played him out of position at right back.  But if he is not playing then its only best he leaves this transfer window where we can get some money for him rather than for a free in the summer.  Lets hope Eck spends the money wisely
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