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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: bilsim on December 28, 2011, 04:02:26 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16321286.stm
Not often I'd take notice of these things but so disappointing that our name can be heard in the same breath as the likes of Blackburn and Bolton. Can't see it to be honest, but am I just being too optimistic?
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I'd be concerned if it wasn't for the fact he hates us and knows fuck all anyway.
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"Always a surprise package that gets dragged into it"
That must be one of the biggest myths in football!
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Well I wasn't worried about relegation before. I'm now even less worried. Savage is a tool.
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On the evidence of the last two games we won't, but before that I had my concerns.
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I predict that Mrs Sarah Savage thinks there were only two people at that 'party' he and the dancer attended in his hotel room and he will be divorced before Villa are anywhere near playing Championship football.
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To be fair he does know a fair bit about being relegated.
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For some reason I think we will sruggle a lot more next season.
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Absolutly rediculous,
has he not heard we are strenghening in Jan with Boumsong and Zamora,
no way a team with that quality can go down
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For some reason I think we will sruggle a lot more next season.
Me too. We'll be mid table this season but I think we're reaching the point where we were in summer 2006 when Ellis and O'dreary were still here and taking us down.
I think things will get that mad next season unless we start changing a few things.
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Savage is a &%^£&^%$&(.
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Worra cock
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Paul Merson has said something similar earlier on this season
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He should stick to the dancing. Seriously the BBC's punditry is at an all time low. With the likes of Savage, Lawrenson, Claridge, Mcgarry, Bright, Crookes on their airwaves on a regular basis, they make Talksport look like a bastion of proffesionalism.(Dont know if that last bit makes sense, but you know the point of trying to get across)
I dont know why the BBC dont try and snap Andy Gray up. I know he got the sack from SKY basically through flirting, but he is good at what he does and commands a lot more respect and achieved a lot more in the game than the other jokers mentionend above.
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Coming from someone who is better at ballroom dancing than football.
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For some reason I think we will sruggle a lot more next season.
Me too. We'll be mid table this season but I think we're reaching the point where we were in summer 2006 when Ellis and O'dreary were still here and taking us down.
I think things will get that mad next season unless we start changing a few things.
And me. The more the team becomes McLeish's the more worried about relegation i'll get.
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Robbie Savage is a
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5rySdbzasM/TaL-EMDZAXI/AAAAAAAAD-I/ZIze8FnKqaY/s320/horses_arse.jpg
(Modified for NSFW reasons)
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On the evidence of the last two games we won't, but before that I had my concerns.
I agree with this.
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A few things:
1. Everyone knows Robbie Savage is a twat
2. There are at least 3 teams worse than us so we wont get relegated this season
3. If Randy continues with his cost cutting and sell to buy policy then relegation is more likely next season
4. I have no faith with AM in the transfer market particularly with a limited budget
A simple look at the fixtures will show that we *should* pick up some wins between January and March which should be enough to make us safe from relegation for the time being at least.
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Ah, oops sorry Leeg
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Savage is a twat
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Shameful.
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Shameful.
I know. If your going to get sent off then do the bastard properly.
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We descended to their level. I'd love to know exactly what prompted Dion's uncharacteristic reaction, though.
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I know you're right Leeg but I could watch that all day.....Sorry!
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Stop now! FFS. Robbie Savage is now and only ever has been a self-serving opportunistic (Welsh) bastard.
Even other pundits do not bleach their teeth & their hair & their deserved scumbag reputation. And grind up against the utterley luscious Ola Jordan, daily for ten weeks, on national TV.
Ignore anything he ever says for the rest of all time. Esp if it is pro-Blues/ anti-Villa.
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Heard Robbie Savage justifying his media presence saying if it wasn't him it would be someone else. Suspect he knows if his opinions were not thought provoking his earning capacity would be diminished.
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He should stick to the dancing. Seriously the BBC's punditry is at an all time low. With the likes of Savage, Lawrenson, Claridge, Mcgarry, Bright, Crookes on their airwaves on a regular basis, they make Talksport look like a bastion of proffesionalism.(Dont know if that last bit makes sense, but you know the point of trying to get across)
I dont know why the BBC dont try and snap Andy Gray up. I know he got the sack from SKY basically through flirting, but he is good at what he does and commands a lot more respect and achieved a lot more in the game than the other jokers mentionend above.
That is a damn good point. talkSHITE have ex-BBC journalists (Saggers) and reformed characters (SVC), out to redeem theirselves on-air, whilst 5 Live have the mediocre (Claridge), the incomprehensible (Shearer) and the subtly arrogant (Colin Murray) amongst their ranks.
Savage is the rare breed of all three.
And he's an irritating c**t.
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I predict Robbie Savage will be mercilessly buggered by prizewinning bulls.
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He should stick to the dancing. Seriously the BBC's punditry is at an all time low. With the likes of Savage, Lawrenson, Claridge, Mcgarry, Bright, Crookes on their airwaves on a regular basis, they make Talksport look like a bastion of proffesionalism.(Dont know if that last bit makes sense, but you know the point of trying to get across)
I dont know why the BBC dont try and snap Andy Gray up. I know he got the sack from SKY basically through flirting, but he is good at what he does and commands a lot more respect and achieved a lot more in the game than the other jokers mentionend above.
That is a damn good point. talkSHITE have ex-BBC journalists (Saggers) and reformed characters (SVC), out to redeem theirselves on-air, whilst 5 Live have the mediocre (Claridge), the incomprehensible (Shearer) and the subtly arrogant (Colin Murray) amongst their ranks.
Savage is the rare breed of all three.
And he's an irritating c**t.
hate to admit it but one of the better presenters on there is Ian Danter, and he's a nose
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hate to admit it but one of the better presenters on there is Ian Danter, and he's a nose
That's because he was trained to do the job rather than came through the 'must be an ex-player' route.
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Ian Danter used to commentate (as well as compete with his Birmingham side) on our Subbuteo tournaments at the studio, that's where he learned his trade.
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He has achieved precisely what he wanted, which is to get people talking about him.
If only you would also phone in to his wretched radio programme, he will be "well happy".
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Perhaps Savage believes that Villa will be relegated because he actually believes it, rather than for some supposed hatred of our club.
He stated on Football Focus earlier in the season that Villa were the biggest club in Brum. No great thing perhaps but surely if he was as rabid-anti-Villa as some on here make out then he wouldn't have made a statement like that that would probably upset the fans of one of his previous clubs.
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Yes but not even the thickest nose would think Blose were bigger than.... ah never mind.
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Perhaps Savage believes that Villa will be relegated because he actually believes it, rather than for some supposed hatred of our club.
Or perhaps he just likes making money.
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Perhaps Savage believes that Villa will be relegated because he actually believes it, rather than for some supposed hatred of our club.
Or perhaps he just likes making money.
Selective quote. I'm not list-en-ing la-la-la-lah!
I think he gets paid regardless.
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From what I've heard he always seems to speak quite highly of us. I heard him say he'd sign for us from Birmingham if given a chance (when talking about McLeish) for example.
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Perhaps Savage believes that Villa will be relegated because he actually believes it, rather than for some supposed hatred of our club.
Or perhaps he just likes making money.
Selective quote. I'm not list-en-ing la-la-la-lah!
I think he gets paid regardless.
Well, you could argue that all of the shock jocks get paid regardless, but I think you you will find they have a vested interest in promoting controversy.
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I thought the same at the start of the season. Shit, but not as shit as I thought.
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I think he has a point....only joking. If we continue the way we are going maybe next year
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He should stick to the dancing. Seriously the BBC's punditry is at an all time low. With the likes of Savage, Lawrenson, Claridge, Mcgarry, Bright, Crookes on their airwaves on a regular basis, they make Talksport look like a bastion of proffesionalism.(Dont know if that last bit makes sense, but you know the point of trying to get across)
I dont know why the BBC dont try and snap Andy Gray up. I know he got the sack from SKY basically through flirting, but he is good at what he does and commands a lot more respect and achieved a lot more in the game than the other jokers mentionend above.
That is a damn good point. talkSHITE have ex-BBC journalists (Saggers) and reformed characters (SVC), out to redeem theirselves on-air, whilst 5 Live have the mediocre (Claridge), the incomprehensible (Shearer) and the subtly arrogant (Colin Murray) amongst their ranks.
Savage is the rare breed of all three.
And he's an irritating c**t.
You forgot the man for whom the phrase 'pseudo-intellectual' was invented....Pat Nevin. His attempts to talk about football as if he is reviewing some alternative comedy at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival are every bit as irritating as the gormless, idiotic rants of a Claridge or the completely vacuous comments of a DJ Spoony...
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Garth Crookes is the worst for me, makes me cringe, listening to him is the same as hearing someone scratching there fingernails down a blackboard
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I wonder what Spooney thinks of his beloved Racist FC making Suarez into a martyr?
That's probably the first time I've ever wondered what the prat thinks about anything.
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I'll probably get lambasted for this but i actually quite like claridge as a pundits. For one thing he does his research unlike the hansen who's been going through the motions for years or shearer who has to be the most bland and anodyne man ever let loose on motd. What riles me most though is the BBC editorial policy putting up with the second rate job that is done. There is room for a moredetailed analysis show where pundits could argue the toss about things for hours and we could see If they do know what they're talking about.
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I'll probably get lambasted for this but i actually quite like claridge as a pundits. For one thing he does his research unlike the hansen who's been going through the motions for years or shearer who has to be the most bland and anodyne man ever let loose on motd. What riles me most though is the BBC editorial policy putting up with the second rate job that is done. There is room for a moredetailed analysis show where pundits could argue the toss about things for hours and we could see If they do know what they're talking about.
just clicked on 'report to moderator'
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I'll probably get lambasted for this but i actually quite like claridge as a pundits.
I quite like Calaridge too but was always too embarrassed to admit.
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If we're doing embarassing confessions, then I must say I think Lee Dixon is probably MOTD's best pundit right now. Always seems to talk sense and doesn't fall into the "always talk up my old club" trap.
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Ex Man Ure player, he must know what he's talking about ;)
We aren't going to win the league, but we aren't getting relegated, that's where we are, whether that twat likes it or not.
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If we're doing embarassing confessions, then I must say I think Lee Dixon is probably MOTD's best pundit right now. Always seems to talk sense and doesn't fall into the "always talk up my old club" trap.
On the same theme, I think both Danny Mills and Ray Parlour are quite good too...
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To be fair Savage doesn't exactly predict us to go down, he just says that he thinks Wigan might be ok and another team might get dragged into it. Apparently 'an' Aston Villa or 'a' Fulham might get dragged into it.
I like Claridge cos he's a real football man and loves the game, and is just as enthusiastic about a non-league game as a Premiership one, but his actual analysis of the game (which he's paid for) is pretty bad, I can see why people don't like him.
MOTD would be much better if they mixed it up every week instead of always having Hansen, and usually Shearer on.
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Another vote for not minding Lee Dixon. I can't stand She-Ra when he's on, which seems to be most weeks.
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Just someone else who has outrageous opinions every week, to a deadline, for money.
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Da Beeb ned to make more use of Perry Groves
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I'm.sticking to my guns on Claridge and hats off to whoever said Dixon probably the best pundit on Premier stuff currently.
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I know he is not on the BBC, but the worst TV pundit of all has to be Gary Neville on SKY's Monday Night Football, as drab and dreary as the Manchester weather and not a clue what he is doing or saying.
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As much as it pains me, I actually think Gary Neville is a decent pundit and does seem to konw what he's talking about.
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I know he is not on the BBC, but the worst TV pundit of all has to be Gary Neville on SKY's Monday Night Football, as drab and dreary as the Manchester weather and not a clue what he is doing or saying.
I'd agree with that.
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i'd go with paul on this one, Neville is supprisingly better than i was expecting
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i'd go with paul on this one, Neville is supprisingly better than i was expecting
best bit of his punditry this season was his description of David Luiz. Very good.
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Savage says Bolton, completely agree, for me Blackburn will change there manager shortly and survive, can't see Fulham getting relegated, I think one of the new boys will go down and I would agree there will be a surprise package, for me that would be between Villa and Wigan although you could hardly claim Wigan would be a surprise package.
As for Villa going down, we have the right man for the job to do just that and it increasingly begins to look as though he is with us until at least the end of the season.
Swansea game will be a vital 3 points.
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I don't think we'll go down, but that's only because there is some real shit in this league.
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I like Neville. I nearly always like people who's names are blessed with the pre-fix 'Red'.
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I don't think we'll go down, but that's only because there is some real shit in this league.
That assuaged my worries that I had until recently. Not much to crow about though is it?
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I'll probably get lambasted for this but i actually quite like claridge as a pundits.
I quite like Calaridge too but was always too embarrassed to admit.
I'll join in with the Claridge love-in.
I like him because he has some knowledge of football below The Premiership having journeyed his way through clubs at all levels.
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I, dare I say it, quite like Robbie Savage. He's a clown but seems to realise this himself. I think I chose the wrong arena to admit this in.
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I quite like Neville's analysis, but jesus that Manc drawl does my head in. And to think people are always having a go at the brummie accent!
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Can't believe it. We're a mighty 6 points ahead of the drop zone. We've pulled off a fantastic draw against Stoke, weve won one of our last seven games and only lost four out of our last five home games. Savage must be both an idiot and a Bluenose to think we might get relegated.
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Can't believe it. We're a mighty 6 points ahead of the drop zone. We've pulled off a fantastic draw against Stoke, weve won one of our last seven games and only lost four out of our last five home games. Savage must be both an idiot and a Bluenose to think we might get relegated.
Yet despite all that there are still 8 clubs below us in the league. What makes you think at least 6 of those are suddenly going to improve and that, after the tough run of fixtures, we won't?
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I, dare I say it, quite like Robbie Savage. He's a clown but seems to realise this himself. I think I chose the wrong arena to admit this in.
I'm actually with you on this.
Can't argue with anything he says, we are currently in relegation form and unless we start getting some results we are goin down. Today's performance against Chelsea will tell us alot.
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Teams that sell their best players and dont replace them get relegated I don't think it will be this season but unless were lucky enough to get a mega rich owner buy us I'm pretty certain we'll be gone next season
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I'm fairly confident that we won't be relegated. There are too much dross in the league that are worse than us. We still have some decent players, and McLeish, though a limited manager, isn't as clueless as some make out.
However, after each loss I get slightly nervous: I fear that the intended decline becomes uncontrolled (like at Leeds or Portsmouth), and that we end up in a relegation battle. If that happens, the fact is that McLeish's record in fighting for survival isn't the best.
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Have some of that Robbie.
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Have some of that Robbie.
Too right !
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Another in the "Don't mind Savage" camp. I also agree Lee Dixon is the best of a poor bunch on Beeb. 5 live can be very good and it's always a pleasure to listen to Jimmy Armfield.
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Still think we'll get dragged into it.
Nah, only joking. Savage, you chickenshit blondie.
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to coin a Joey Barton tweet #helmet !!!
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Funnily enough the two ex-players who get most up my nose are Gobby (he is just plain thick) and Claridge (always interrupting and too fond of his own voice); both Bluenoses old boys.
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Pat Nevin is just about the best pundit on the BBC, but they only seem to use him on the radio. Dixon's alright.
Haven't watched MOTD once this season (or last, for that matter) because I despise the matey, jokey, golf-club banter between the Axis Of Wankers that is Lawro, Hansen and the Jug-Eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker. You'd get a better level of analysis in a school playground than from those three pricks.
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Pat Nevin is just about the best pundit on the BBC, but they only seem to use him on the radio. Dixon's alright.
Haven't watched MOTD once this season (or last, for that matter) because I despise the matey, jokey, golf-club banter between the Axis Of Wankers that is Lawro, Hansen and the Jug-Eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker. You'd get a better level of analysis in a school playground than from those three pricks.
They'll be shading great big swathes of pitch in yellow and red as they pontificate over Petrov's goal. Hansen will refer to it as "shocking defending". Lawro will just sit there nodding and will try to say something funny and will fail.
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Pat Nevin is just about the best pundit on the BBC, but they only seem to use him on the radio. Dixon's alright.
Haven't watched MOTD once this season (or last, for that matter) because I despise the matey, jokey, golf-club banter between the Axis Of Wankers that is Lawro, Hansen and the Jug-Eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker. You'd get a better level of analysis in a school playground than from those three pricks.
Should the band I'll never form, because I can't play anything - you know actually happen, please, please can I have your permission to call it "Jug-eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker"
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Pat Nevin is just about the best pundit on the BBC, but they only seem to use him on the radio. Dixon's alright.
Haven't watched MOTD once this season (or last, for that matter) because I despise the matey, jokey, golf-club banter between the Axis Of Wankers that is Lawro, Hansen and the Jug-Eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker. You'd get a better level of analysis in a school playground than from those three pricks.
Should the band I'll never form, because I can't play anything - you know actually happen, please, please can I have your permission to call it "Jug-eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker"
I'm having "Axis of Wankers" then.
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the Jug-Eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker.
You forgot Cholesterol-collecting, snake-slithering, moustachioed-miserablist, "she's old enough to be your granddaughter" f*ck-knuckle.
Obviously.
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I don't have any issue with Savage, he doesn't seem to have any real grudge against Villa. I can totally understand his comments if he watched the games against Spurzzz and Liverpool.
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Can this be the Savage who tried gouge the eye out of a Villa player from the back of a mass handbags a couple of seasons back? Nah, must be some other Savage everybody has taken to liking.
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Pat Nevin is just about the best pundit on the BBC, but they only seem to use him on the radio. Dixon's alright.
Haven't watched MOTD once this season (or last, for that matter) because I despise the matey, jokey, golf-club banter between the Axis Of Wankers that is Lawro, Hansen and the Jug-Eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker. You'd get a better level of analysis in a school playground than from those three pricks.
Should the band I'll never form, because I can't play anything - you know actually happen, please, please can I have your permission to call it "Jug-eared, Goalhanging, Cockjuggling Thundercunt that is Gary Lineker"
I'm having "Axis of Wankers" then.
Permission granted, both. I think they're both taken though, they must be surely?
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Who could possibly give any merit to comments made by a girlie twat like him. Especially when he had to think so hard about whether he would rather have won the FA Cup or 'cum' dancing.
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He was one of the worst players EVER in the premiership, how the frig is he a Millionaire,? just shows how much money they are on, he is the worst radio host i`ve heard, he,s single handedley ruined 606 on the beeb, the phrase "Dumbing down" could have been invented for him, i wont listen to it anymore till he`s gone, he got on peoples tits on the pitch and now he`s doing it on the radio, but the knobheads at the BBC love him for some totally obscure fucking reason. My missus once had the chance to run him over and she blew it, we aint spoken since.
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He was one of the worst players EVER in the premiership, how the frig is he a Millionaire,? just shows how much money they are on, he is the worst radio host i`ve heard, he,s single handedley ruined 606 on the beeb, the phrase "Dumbing down" could have been invented for him, i wont listen to it anymore till he`s gone, he got on peoples tits on the pitch and now he`s doing it on the radio, but the Mongols at the BBC love him for some totally obscure fucking reason. My missus once had the chance to run him over and she blew it, we aint spoken since.
Please refrain from using that 'M' word. Please also use the rest of the words about him as much as you like, as often as you like. And worse, if you want.
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My missus once had the chance to run him over and she blew it, we aint spoken since.
Probably shouldn't have laughed at that but did!
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He was one of the worst players EVER in the premiership, how the frig is he a Millionaire,? just shows how much money they are on, he is the worst radio host i`ve heard, he,s single handedley ruined 606 on the beeb, the phrase "Dumbing down" could have been invented for him, i wont listen to it anymore till he`s gone, he got on peoples tits on the pitch and now he`s doing it on the radio, but the Mongols at the BBC love him for some totally obscure fucking reason. My missus once had the chance to run him over and she blew it, we aint spoken since.
Please refrain from using that 'M' word. Please also use the rest of the words about him as much as you like, as often as you like. And worse, if you want.
Can we use the W word... as in Welsh?
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He's always been a professional wind-up merchant. Hated him when he was at Leicester & not seen or heard anything about him that's changed my opinion.
Don't know what it was that Savage did / said to prompt the normally calm Dublin's to headbutt him, but I wish he'd made a better job of it.
What his opinion is on any matter is of no relevance.
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I think the BBC will come to their senses sooner or later and get rid of the idiot just like they did with Ian Wright, who was another complete imbecile who could barely string a sentence together. The latter is (thankfully) nowhere to be seen these days. It's just a matter of time till Savage joins him.
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Give me Savage over that fat fuck-wit Mickey Quinn anyday.
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Give me Savage over that fat fuck-wit Mickey Quinn anyday.
But Quinn works for the lamentable Talksport. They're supposed to employ morons.
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Listening to the current crop of idiots on MOTD makes me yearn for the return of Boring Bob Wilson and Jimmy Hill. They are veritable philosophers compared to the general fu**wittery and wibble spouted from the current crop.
As for Robbie Savage, the man has a giant tattoo of Armani on his back. Surely that tells you all you need to know about this idiot.
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Give me Savage over that fat fuck-wit Mickey Quinn anyday.
But Quinn works for the lamentable Talksport. They're supposed to employ morons.
Yeah,Savage wouldnt be out of place on ts,as most of their pundits are useless fcukwits.
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I think I will have to lie down. I quite like listening to Robbie Savage.