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Title: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 23, 2011, 07:02:19 AM
Well not quite.

But apparently `Arrests for football-related disorder in England and Wales are at a record low, the Home Office has said.`

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Just over 3,000 people were arrested at games involving English and Welsh teams last year, a drop of 9%.

The Home Office says the latest figures are a major success story with progress being made at both international and domestic levels of football.

The number of people under football banning orders has also fallen, down to 3,173 from 3,248 last year.

During last season, 3,089 people were arrested, a drop of 302 compared with the 2009/10 season.

This is the lowest figure since records began in the 1984/5 season and equates to an average of one arrest per match.

There were no arrests at 70% of games in the 2010/11 season, and only one English fan was arrested at the World Cup, after he confronted members of the England team following a match in Cape Town.

The Home Office said that football banning orders "continue to have a positive effect" a decade after their introduction.

Since 2000 about 92% of people whose orders have expired are assessed by police as no longer posing a risk of football disorder.

Crime Prevention Minister Lord Henley said: "Football policing is a real British success story. Where hooliganism was once described as 'the English disease', we now set an example for others to follow.

"But we are not complacent and we will expect to see England fans continue their good behaviour at next year's European Championships, where the eyes of the world will be on them once again."

Assistant Chief Constable Andy Holt, who leads on football policing for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said: "Over the past two decades the UK has made steady progress in reducing football-related violence and disorder.

"The service has worked hard with football clubs and football supporters' associations to ensure that genuine fans can attend games without incident and it's reassuring that the figures reflect that a very small minority of fans have come to police notice."

The number of those attending regulated matches in England and Wales reached 37 million last year, meaning those arrested represent less than 0.01% of that season's spectators.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16311308

Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Kingthing on December 23, 2011, 08:51:59 AM
But on the downside ecstasy is making a comeback.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: darren woolley on December 23, 2011, 10:58:57 AM
Let's hope the hooligan element of the game will soon be extinct.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: villasjf on December 23, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
82 Blues fans 61 Villa fans 55 Wolves fans in that list
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: SashasGrandad on December 23, 2011, 12:19:09 PM
There will be at lot less at Villa PArk this season without the unwashed!
Title: Arrests
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 23, 2011, 12:34:45 PM
That's no way to talk about BlackCountryVillain.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: TaxDodger on December 23, 2011, 12:38:09 PM
Pwopa Norty.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on December 24, 2011, 06:55:02 PM
Arrests
1. Villa - 103
2. Blues - 74
3. Wolves - 50
4. Albion - 35
5. Walsall - 1

Banning orders
1. Blues - 84
2. Villa - 63
3. Wolves - 52
4. Albion - 32
5. Walsall - 13
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Percy McCarthy on December 26, 2011, 03:17:31 PM
There was a big mob of Villa in town on Friday looking for b-lose. However, b-lose are notoriously elusive these days.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: nuninho on December 26, 2011, 04:04:04 PM
Arrests
1. Villa - 103
2. Blues - 74
3. Wolves - 50
4. Albion - 35
5. Walsall - 1

Banning orders
1. Blues - 84
2. Villa - 63
3. Wolves - 52
4. Albion - 32
5. Walsall - 13

Whats that as a % of attendances?  We have the bigger attendances so are bound to have higher figures.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 26, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
There was a big mob of Villa in town on Friday looking for b-lose. However, b-lose are notoriously elusive these days.

Perhaps, like normal people, they were in the pub, at home or Christmas shopping rather than trying to act like twats?
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Chris Smith on December 26, 2011, 04:15:22 PM
There was a big mob of Villa in town on Friday looking for b-lose. However, b-lose are notoriously elusive these days.

Last minute Christmas rucking.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on December 26, 2011, 04:42:17 PM
Arrests
1. Villa - 103
2. Blues - 74
3. Wolves - 50
4. Albion - 35
5. Walsall - 1

Banning orders
1. Blues - 84
2. Villa - 63
3. Wolves - 52
4. Albion - 32
5. Walsall - 13

Whats that as a % of attendances?  We have the bigger attendances so are bound to have higher figures.

Average home attendances last season
1. Villa - 37.194
2. Wolves - 27.925
3. Blues - 25.462
4. Albion - 24.683
5. Walsall - 3.846

Arrests %
1. Blues - 0.29%
2. Villa - 0.28%
3. Wolves - 0.18%
4. Albion - 0.14%
5. Walsall - 0.03%

Banning orders %
1. Walsall - 0.34%
2. Blues - 0.33%
3. Wolves - 0.19%
4. Villa - 0.17%
5. Albion - 0.13%
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Dante Lavelli on December 26, 2011, 06:13:53 PM
The Villa/Blues stats are well above the other W. Midland clubs.  Is that primarily because of the match between the two sides or are we more thuggish than West Brom, Wolves and Walsall?
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 26, 2011, 09:06:16 PM
The Villa/Blues stats are well above the other W. Midland clubs.  Is that primarily because of the match between the two sides or are we more thuggish than West Brom, Wolves and Walsall?

There was a lot more "action" between and around Villa and Blose lads over the last 5 seasons; Albions firm was broken by early visits from the Police two seasons ago; Wolves have never recovered from the arrests of about 10 years ago and Walsall only have 4 hooligans - which all means it is safer for the rest of us to go to matches!
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: garyfouroaks on December 26, 2011, 10:35:05 PM
Not extinct, just resting.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 27, 2011, 07:48:10 AM
Not extinct, just resting.

Is that an opinion or a threat of intent on your part ?  :-\
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 27, 2011, 08:45:57 AM
There was one at Alfreton yesterday, he was very funny, gave it the usual with the gestures etc, then got a bit madder when one of our lot asked him where his banjo was and charged the fence, hit a gate with his shoulder, which promptly swung open depositing him at the feet of our fans. He looked up in abject horror and ran down the terrace, vaulted the hoardings in a style Colin Jackson would have been proud of and disappeared to the other end of the ground. Marvellous.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Chris Smith on December 27, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
After the events on Oxford Street yesterday, shopping is the new football.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: lichfield lion on December 27, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
There was a big mob of Villa in town on Friday looking for b-lose. However, b-lose are notoriously elusive these days.
Pathetic twats. I bet if Blose actually knew where they were and turned up the gobby cowards would have s**t themselves. It's all rather sad, but you seem to revel in it for some reason.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: bertlambshank on December 27, 2011, 07:37:06 PM
There was a big mob of Villa in town on Friday looking for b-lose. However, b-lose are notoriously elusive these days.
Pathetic twats. I bet if Blose actually knew where they were and turned up the gobby cowards would have s**t themselves. It's all rather sad, but you seem to revel in it for some reason.
Fuck me is it pick on Percy week?
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Ads on December 27, 2011, 09:13:04 PM
There was a big mob of Villa in town on Friday looking for b-lose. However, b-lose are notoriously elusive these days.
Pathetic twats. I bet if Blose actually knew where they were and turned up the gobby cowards would have s**t themselves. It's all rather sad, but you seem to revel in it for some reason.
Fuck me is it pick on Percy week?

As I understand it, Lichfield Lion is  nose pretending to be a Villa fan, who also happens to be one of Percy's mates.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Percy McCarthy on December 27, 2011, 09:18:51 PM
As Fletch would have said: 'Where's me keep-net'?
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on December 27, 2011, 10:02:44 PM
Where is fletch?
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: lichfield lion on December 28, 2011, 04:55:58 PM
This accusation keeps on coming up and is 100% wrong! I don't even know PercyN'thehoodlum, and i'm certainly NOT a blose fan.  >:(
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: garyfouroaks on December 29, 2011, 03:24:21 AM
Not extinct, just resting.

Is that an opinion or a threat of intent on your part ?  :-\

Neither!

Just an acknowledgement that football has a history now that will always throw up the potential for hooliganism.Numerous, well documented, factors have evolved to neutralise and minimise the opportunity for hooliganism. But that can change.
Title: Re: ?% Villa. The football hooligan is extinct - official.
Post by: adrenachrome on December 29, 2011, 06:10:01 PM
Not extinct, just resting.

Is that an opinion or a threat of intent on your part ?  :-\

Neither!

Just an acknowledgement that football has a history now that will always throw up the potential for hooliganism.Numerous, well documented, factors have evolved to neutralise and minimise the opportunity for hooliganism. But that can change.

I thought it was a Monty Python parrot sketch reference:

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