Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Iago on December 02, 2011, 10:19:51 PM
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Sir Alex Ferguson has criticised the modern-day supporter for having "no patience", blaming Sunderland fans for contributing to Steve Bruce's sacking and questioning whether Alex McLeish is facing unwarranted criticism before Aston Villa's home game against Manchester United on Saturday.
McLeish still has to win over many Villa supporters since his controversial move from Birmingham City and Ferguson believes the man who once played for him at Aberdeen is facing similar difficulties to those experienced by Bruce, another of his old boys, at the Stadium of Light.
"Alex McLeish has been under scrutiny a wee bit but, in the climate we have with today's supporters, that's understandable because they just don't have the patience any longer," Ferguson said.
"We see what's happened with Steve Bruce in the north-east. Being a Geordie didn't help him because they are so passionate and committed to their team up there [in Sunderland]. What happens on the other side of the Wear really matters to them and I think Steve has suffered because of that. And Alex having been the manager of Birmingham City doesn't help him either. But that's the kind of supporters we have nowadays. They have no patience."
Ferguson reiterated his point when asked whether Ashley Young may face a hostile reception on his return to Villa Park. "As I say, present-day supporters are like that, aren't they?" However, he also spoke of his hope that the home fans may recognise Young's contribution during his time at Villa.
"He had a fantastic last season [at Villa]. You could see maturity coming into his game and that's the thing that attracted me most of all because, at 25, we were getting someone with maturity in the Premier League who could play in several positions.
"He has been a really good signing for us and integrated into the squad. He's started really well, which doesn't always happen when someone joins Manchester United."
Thanks for belittling Aston Villa supporters and the entire club.
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Does anyone take what this twat says seriously?
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Randy Lerner does.
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Does anyone take what this twat says seriously?
Mr Lerner.
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typical blatant mind games Sort of thing his chum Allardyce falls for, hopefully AM won't.
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Does he really believe this crap though?
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Cock off Fergiescum, you have shown your lack of understanding by suggesting we aren't mad about A Mac because he used to manage Blues. When the truth is he only has proven ability in taking premier league teams down a division whilst playing dour football.
The reason football fans are impatient is because clubs like Manure and your near neighbours have caused the whole of professional english football to turn to shit, by pricing proper fans out of the game.
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Cock off Fergiescum, you have shown your lack of understanding by suggesting we aren't mad about A Mac because he used to manage Blues. When the truth is he only has proven ability in taking premier league teams down a division whilst playing dour football.
The reason football fans are impatient is because clubs like Manure and your near neighbours have caused the whole of professional english football to turn to shit, by pricing proper fans out of the game.
I have no doubt that people outside our club will believe that any fan discontent towards AM is due to that fact. Such ignorance of the real situation.
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I thoroughly agree Siralex.
How dare little Aston Villa fans gripe about a manager with two recent relegations on his CV getting the gig.
If only every owner in the league was prepared to follow your recommendations, eh? The league would be far easier with toadys like Big Sam, Ince, your son Darren and other sycophants occupying key managerial positions.
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Quite simply get fucked you complete bell end, its your fault we got the bastard
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Also I think 99% of us recognise Young was a good player and we won't boo him but I might boo you
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Does he really believe this crap though?
I just wish the press wouldn't print his nonsense.
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This is the most important bit as far as we are concerned, and Taggart has been a model of consistency with this particular opinion:
He had a fantastic last season [at Villa]. You could see maturity coming into his game and that's the thing that attracted me most of all because, at 25, we were getting someone with maturity in the Premier League who could play in several positions.
Many, if not most, posters on this site said AY was past his best and was showboating, Billy Big Bollocks and so on during his last season.
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It's a shame that out chairman is SAF's lap dog. He really knows how to pull the strings doesn't he?
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How could Randy take a recommendation from SAF seriously? He is so condescending about our club, and makes supporters look like narrow-minded idiots.
The large majority do not care about AM's past.
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To be fair, I also think his view is probably the same of 90% of people outside the club. The perception will be that we hold McLeish's Blues connection against him, so he's under greater scrutiny. No one else cares enough about us to look at the facts - that his track record is poor and his football is less than entertaining. That's not to defend the old scrote though. I wish he'd boycott the BBC again, and all other media outlets. The day when no one broadcasts his opinion can't come soon enough. He fails to recognise that Fistface is a phenomenally shite manager with stats and history to prove it. That's why the fans were on his back. Nowt to do with him being a Geordie (actually I think he's from Northumberland, which makes him not a Geordie, but don't let facts get in the way of defending an old boy). Also, the "mind games" thing really gets my goat. If Tony Pulis makes a bland comment to the effect of "the pressure's on the opposition" or "they don't like it up 'em" no one bats an eyelid. If Ferguson says it (and Manure inevitably win) it's down to the genius of his "mind games". Mind games my arse. Bollocks to his trophy haul and his knighthood. The man conducts himself with no dignity whatsoever (walks out of a press conference if he's asked a question he doesn't like - another reason the press fawn to him). He's a nasty piece of work. The famous hair-dryer treatment? Bullying in the workplace by any other name. In most other industries you'd get sacked for gross misconduct for treating your staff like that. Let's hope we beat his vile outfit with a blatantly offside goal or unjust penalty. Just to see his purple face explode.
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SAF condescending about Villa? You'd never guess. The official reason why he recommended McLeish to us was that Big Eck's such a good manager at small clubs without any money. (Allthough the real reason is probably that SAF had nothing to lose by giving a favour to an old mate and having yet another one of his cronies in charge of a Premiership rival.)
However, that a rival manager don't give a shit about Villa is to be expected. That's why it's strange that his opinions are stored in the chairman's safe.
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The real reason he waxes lyrical about these two is that they are poor managers and their continuing presence means two more teams who are likely to roll over and be in thrall to him.
It makes his job easier, and he will sit back and smile. The mean spirited, underhand smile of the bully who will stop at nothing in pursuit of his aims. The sad thing is no-one has the balls to stand up and say that despite his ability and achievements, he wasn't afraid of descending into the gutter to get his way.
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This is the most important bit as far as we are concerned, and Taggart has been a model of consistency with this particular opinion:
He had a fantastic last season [at Villa]. You could see maturity coming into his game and that's the thing that attracted me most of all because, at 25, we were getting someone with maturity in the Premier League who could play in several positions.
Many, if not most, posters on this site said AY was past his best and was showboating, Billy Big Bollocks and so on during his last season.
TBH, I believe he was past the best he has played for Villa, he did seem to want to do everything and be the star when faster releases of the ball or crossing rather then cutting in and taking a shot might have been better for us. If Fergie has the wrong end of the stick about McCleish, surely the opinions of people who have seen the player for 3 years straight rather then one who has seen him several occasions, (whoever that might be,) is more valid?
In the first few matches for Manu it looked like a different player, close to what we first had. But he/they appear to be struggling on the few clips I've seen recently.
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Does anyone take what this twat says seriously?
I've printed his interview off and put it in my safe. He's the opposition manager of our hearts.
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Nice smile after the goal. SAF knew we would lie down and allow them to do as they pleased.
Well done Randy.
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Does he forget that Man U fans were calling for his head twenty years ago?
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be a wonderful day for football when that red nosed arsehole retires...
utter ****** who only does things to suit his own agendas, no matter how vile his actions are...
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The most embarrasing thing for me yestreday ( on par with the Heskey wonder shot ) was seeing Fergie giggling and waving afther they had scored . Just fook off Fergie ...
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Wasn't bigging it up when we beat them 1-0 up at their place a few years ago and they booed them off at the end and the cockney scum were phoning 606 asking for him to retire because he was too old! people have short memories!
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Two years ago next week in fact. How fast things have changed at our club.
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"Alex McLeish has been under scrutiny a wee bit but, in the climate we have with today's supporters, that's understandable because they just don't have the patience any longer,"
Three wins from fourteen, or put another way having won 21% of our games tends to breed impatience.
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Also I think 99% of us recognise Young was a good player and we won't boo him but I might boo you
There were more than 1% booing, perhaps he had a point?