Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: andyaston on December 02, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
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With a whole host of our fixtures being pushed about this month which annoys some of us purists, with three of the next homes games kicking off at stupid times. Can any of you guys old enough remember live TV games back in the 1980s?
Myself, and many fans in general quite looked forward to the 'Big Match' covering our games or the BBC picking out a cup tie. It was a novelty in those times happening a couple of times a season, mainly on a Sunday. One thing that sticks out was every time the ball was near the Trinity Road lower fans would wave their hands up in the air to try and attract the attention of those viewing on TV (the baggies called us the Seals because of it, if I remember well?).
Oh yes, if we won, which wasn't often the case I had alway put the timer on the Video recorder just in case.
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The first one I remember was a 0-0 at home with Manchester United in 1988/89. The only standout memory was Steve Sims coming close with a header. Oh, and his majestic moustache, of course.
The next one I can recall was the 6-2 win over Everton the following season. We went but my Grandad also set the timer on the VCR, just in case! A wise decision as it was one of my all-time favourite Villa performances. Platt was tremendous.
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Apart from a certain game in 82, the first I can think of were Blackburn and Boro in Div 2.
I used to have that 6-2 Everton game on VHS. Wish I knew where all my home made Villa tapes were, probably all long lost.
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I have some games on VHS but have no idea how to get them onto DVD format or digitized or whatever. Mine would be mostly from between about 1995-1999 or so.
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I had loads of tapes, from early 80s through to mid 90s. If we won or had an honourable draw I would record the highlights (sad fecker that I am, I mean was!)
One of the first I remember recording was Watford in the FA Cup (83?), IIRC, Watford had to use black tape to cover up the sponsor logo on their shirts as they arrived at VP and didn't know the game was going to be on TV.
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First I can remember was a Friday night (honest!) home game v Liverpool in the 1983-84 season which we lost 1-3.
After that it was the 1987-88 season with the Blackburn and Boro games referred to above, as well as the FA Cup defeat at home to Liverpool 0-2.
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I think we were the second live game after the agreement to show live league games in '83-'84. The first one was Spurs v Forest then Wolves v Villa. Then after that every game seemed to feature Liverpool or United. I remember Rush getting a hat-trick at Villa Park on a Friday night when the pitch was frozen, then the FA cup tie against them in '88.
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First I can remember was a Friday night (honest!) home game v Liverpool in the 1983-84 season which we lost 1-3.
After that it was the 1987-88 season with the Blackburn and Boro games referred to above, as well as the FA Cup defeat at home to Liverpool 0-2.
I posted on the Liverpool game under crap attendances
That was when the BBC had the brainwave of having games on a Friday night the cocks. I think that could be the first live game we were involved in
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Nobody mentioned the semi-final of the simod cup v Middlesborough? Actually it is better best forgotten.
The only other pre-Sky games I can think of is v Swindon and Liverpool in the FA Cup run of 91/92?
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I think it was 1989 away to Man City and ITV trialled a regional live game shown in the Central and Granada regions. Later that season when it was between us and Liverpool for the title I think games at Spurs, Coventry and Arsenal and at home to Man City were shown live on ITV, some on Sunday and some in midweek. It get's a bit confusing when you went to the games, you can't remember if you came home and watched a live game you taped or you just watched highlights.
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Nobody mentioned the semi-final of the simod cup v Middlesborough? Actually it is better best forgotten.
The only other pre-Sky games I can think of is v Swindon and Liverpool in the FA Cup run of 91/92?
I remember that
Birchy scored in front of the Holte and we went on to lose 2-1. IIRC it was pissing it down and it seemed like there was a hurricane going on in Aston Park
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Nobody mentioned the semi-final of the simod cup v Middlesborough? Actually it is better best forgotten.
The only other pre-Sky games I can think of is v Swindon and Liverpool in the FA Cup run of 91/92?
I remember that
Birchy scored in front of the Holte and we went on to lose 2-1. IIRC it was pissing it down and it seemed like there was a hurricane going on in Aston Park
Yep I was there, lots of space in the Holte and it rained hard... they got a last minute winner and we were poor.
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I have some games on VHS but have no idea how to get them onto DVD format or digitized or whatever. Mine would be mostly from between about 1995-1999 or so.
I bought a video "grabber" in Lidl a few weeks ago to do this, I still haven't figured it out. Plenty time off over Christmas should do it.
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I have some games on VHS but have no idea how to get them onto DVD format or digitized or whatever. Mine would be mostly from between about 1995-1999 or so.
I bought a video "grabber" in Lidl a few weeks ago to do this, I still haven't figured it out. Plenty time off over Christmas should do it.
A read of this article may help...........http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/digital-home/11484/how-to-transfer-movies-from-vhs-to-dvd/
I think Maplins do a converter for about thirty quid.
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Villa 1-4 Leeds 91/92 was live on itv on a Sunday
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The first season of the Premiership we naturally featured quite a lot on tv due to finishing as runners-up. Nowadays i think SKY tend to treat 16 or so clubs in the Prem as "one of those playing the top four." We're not on telly as part of their "we must show at least 6 Villa games before Xmas because people want to see Villa, Wigan, Everton etc etc," generally i reckon they work their way round scheduling those 16 or so "unglamourous" clubs only when they are showing the big four - who all feature even more than normal anyway because they are always covered when they play each other.
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Interesting that most of the games on here are games we lost.
Can anybody recall our first win in a live televised game? I reckon it would have been Man City away or Everton at home in the 1989-90 season, but was living in France at the time so never saw them myself, though my mom taped them for me to watch when I came home.
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Wolves away courtesy of Peter Withe, 1983.
following that, the next 'live' win may have been Bradford City away 1987/88 - it was a match shown regionally on Yorkshire TV.
difficult to believe these days but between 1984-1986 there was hardly any football on terrestrial TV due to the arguments concerning viewing rights.
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I would guess our first live win was the last time we won the FA cup. If that wasn't shown live it would be the 1982 European cup final. I would have said our first live league win was Man City away around about October '89. The game at Wolves in '83 finished 1-1 and I'm not sure the Bradford game in '87 would have been allowed to be shown live anywhere. I was at the game and I'm sure it was a 3pm Saturday kick-off.
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I would guess our first live win was the last time we won the FA cup. If that wasn't shown live it would be the 1982 European cup final. I would have said our first live league win was Man City away around about October '89. The game at Wolves in '83 finished 1-1 and I'm not sure the Bradford game in '87 would have been allowed to be shown live anywhere. I was at the game and I'm sure it was a 3pm Saturday kick-off.
It was a 3pm kick-off.
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a 2-0 home win in season 88/89 against Everton, notable for a Tony Daley scissor kick. Man City 1989 (home and away) were also shown on ITV the following season.
re the Bradford match - it was shown regionally. I thought the Wolves game was 1-0 - however all said it could be the altzeimers
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Bradford in the second division was definitely a Saturday afternoon so it couldn't have been on live.
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The 57 cup Final was live on TV.
I well remember the Wolves 1-1. Andy Gray was playing his first game against us, we had also recently sold John Gidman. We were in the midst of backroom upheaval with HDE sniping away and the pre-match talk was of a club in turmoil having an uphill battle against a more ambitious outfit.
Gary Shaw scored an excellent equaliser and seven of the team went on to start in Rotterdam two years later.
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We used get live games on Saturdays over here for a good few years. I remember watching our tonking at WHL to a Hodge inspired Spurs shortly after the weasel left us.
On the plus side I saw our game v Everton the season after we came back up. I still love seeing Tony Daleys cracking volley from that game.
The 3 p.m. live games continued for a few years after that.
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In the late 80s and in the 90s i got into a habit of taping villa highlights on motd and other shows. I know i have the highlights of Grimsby away in the fa cup and a lot of others. I've still got a whole sportsnight program in which Cantona does his fling kick on the palace fan. I was taping it for the villa highlights as we were playing spurs that night. It was the match when Bosnich clattered Klinsman.
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That Everton game in 88 was on tv, but they showed it the following day on the Sunday as I can remember watching it. I'm pretty sure they showed it in full too.
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I have some games on VHS but have no idea how to get them onto DVD format or digitized or whatever. Mine would be mostly from between about 1995-1999 or so.
I bought a video "grabber" in Lidl a few weeks ago to do this, I still haven't figured it out. Plenty time off over Christmas should do it.
A read of this article may help...........http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/digital-home/11484/how-to-transfer-movies-from-vhs-to-dvd/
I think Maplins do a converter for about thirty quid.
Oooh! Thanks for that. I've got some rare music videos that I want to convert to DVD. Cheers.
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Has anyone got the swindon and Liverpool games from 1991 -1992 they coumd burn on to a dvd for me. They're my first memories of watching villa in the FA Cup on the TV.
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Remember the Everton Game 6-2 but the main thing I remember was the sandpit in the middle of the pitch a far cry from the pitches now......I also remember VP full and rocking.
And yes Platty was magnificent that day
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Wolves away courtesy of Peter Withe, 1983.
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it was 1-1
Withe scored first and I think Wayne Clarke equalised
in front of around 13k
Sun 23 Oct Wolverhampton Wanderers A League D 1-1 Molineux
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Remember the Everton Game 6-2 but the main thing I remember was the sandpit in the middle of the pitch a far cry from the pitches now......I also remember VP full and rocking.
And yes Platty was magnificent that day
Great game but, Villa park was far from full only 17,000 were there on that November day it, was rocking though.
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I always remember that Everton game because half way through the first half you can here a guy with a broad Northern accent shouting at Brian Moore the commentator -
'Brian Mur Brian Mur can you hear meh ya twat'
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I think we were the second live game after the agreement to show live league games in '83-'84. The first one was Spurs v Forest then Wolves v Villa. Then after that every game seemed to feature Liverpool or United. I remember Rush getting a hat-trick at Villa Park on a Friday night when the pitch was frozen, then the FA cup tie against them in '88.
My memory of that Wolves game is of it being the very 1st live game on a Sunday 1oclock ko,tho i could be wrong.
Also the Liverpool game , was that the game from which a still picture of Rush scoring was on the box of Subbuteo Football game ?
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I always remember that Everton game because half way through the first half you can here a guy with a broad Northern accent shouting at Brian Moore the commentator -
'Brian Mur Brian Mur can you hear meh ya twat'
I remember that, he and Ian st John went quiet for a bit then all you could hear was that scouser shouting up from below the Witton Lane TV gantry, calling him a twat.
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I have most of the 81 (Championship) and 82 (European Cup) matches on VHS - now transferred to DVD Format. I know for a fact that the club have 45 minutes of highlights from the Man Utd second leg semi-final of the League Cup in 1970 at Villa Park. I met John Lerwill at VP (now departed) in Nov 2009 who said that the club were going to get it released for DVD soon.......the clowns who run the club have no idea of the significance of that night, so it's probably gathering dust in a cupboard or drawer. Do you also know that I donated the FC Valur away goals on DVD from 81-82 to the club at the same time - they said that they would put them on AVTV for the fans to enjoy! To my knowledge they've never bothered to show them.
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Yes Villafirst is right, I know that Villa were planning to release a DVD of that great night at Villa Park in 1970 a few years ago, but I have no idea what happened to that.
I have the goals from both legs on the 'Villeneum' video I think it was Steve Stride's vote as his greatest Villa game.
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Yes Villafirst is right, I know that Villa were planning to release a DVD of that great night at Villa Park in 1970 a few years ago, but I have no idea what happened to that.
I have the goals from both legs on the 'Villeneum' video I think it was Steve Stride's vote as his greatest Villa game.
I have got that video but haven't watched it. I will have a look now that I know those goals are there.
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We'd have first been on in 60-61 according to this on Wiki, but viewers got Nat King Cole in the end!....
An early attempt at live league football was made in 1960-61, when ITV agreed a deal worth £150,000 with the Football League to screen 26 matches; the very first live league match was on Saturday 10 September 1960 between Blackpool and Bolton Wanderers at Bloomfield Road. The match kicked off at 6:50 pm with live coverage starting at 7:30 under the title The Big Game. A major blow to the TV moguls was the absence of big box office draw Stanley Matthews through injury, and the game ended 1-0 to Bolton in front of a half-empty stadium.
However ITV withdrew from the deal after first Arsenal and then Tottenham Hotspur refused them permission to shoot at their matches against Newcastle United and Aston Villa respectively, and the Football League demanded a dramatic increase in player appearance payments. ITV showed the Nat King Cole Show instead, while ironically both matches received highlights coverage from the BBC on Sports Special.
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We'd have first been on in 60-61 according to this on Wiki, but viewers got Nat King Cole in the end!....
An early attempt at live league football was made in 1960-61, when ITV agreed a deal worth £150,000 with the Football League to screen 26 matches; the very first live league match was on Saturday 10 September 1960 between Blackpool and Bolton Wanderers at Bloomfield Road. The match kicked off at 6:50 pm with live coverage starting at 7:30 under the title The Big Game. A major blow to the TV moguls was the absence of big box office draw Stanley Matthews through injury, and the game ended 1-0 to Bolton in front of a half-empty stadium.
However ITV withdrew from the deal after first Arsenal and then Tottenham Hotspur refused them permission to shoot at their matches against Newcastle United and Aston Villa respectively, and the Football League demanded a dramatic increase in player appearance payments. ITV showed the Nat King Cole Show instead, while ironically both matches received highlights coverage from the BBC on Sports Special.
They only showed the 2nd half for some strange reason.
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I've got the below somewhere on VHS - i'll have to dig them out;
Villa V Man U - Six debut 83/84 (BBC highlights)
Arsenal v Villa - 83/84 (ITV highlights)
Villa v Spurs - Rumbelows Cup 87 (ITV highlights)
West Ham v Villa Rumbelows Cup 87 (ITV highlights)
Villa v Everton 1988 (ITV highlights)
Villa v Wimbledon 1988 FA Cup (BBC highlights + the worst goal conceded ever....straight thru Mountfields legs!)
Man City v Villa 1989 90mins (ITV)
Villa v Everton 1989 90 mins (ITV)
Villa v Everton 1989 90 mins
Villa v Middlesboro 1989/90 (near enough 90 mins) Zeneth Data Cup (Sky Sports)
Arsenal v Villa 1990 90 mins (ITV)
Villa v Inter 1990 90mins (ITV)
Inter v Villa 1990 45mins(ITV)
The odd highlights from matches from that 1990/91
Villa v Spurs FA Cup (1993?!?!) 90mins BBC
Various games v Man U (90 mins) from league and cup from 92/93/94
I stopped recording them after a while. I'll have to dig em out and burn to DVD