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Title: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: richardhubbard on December 02, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
Who do you think will move on

I suggest Heskey and Petrov are bankers in January Window
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2011, 12:50:24 PM
Collins. On the last day of the window, obviously.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Matt C on December 02, 2011, 12:50:37 PM
Ireland?
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: VillaAlways on December 02, 2011, 12:52:34 PM
Richard Dunne
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: TaxDodger on December 02, 2011, 12:53:10 PM
Darren Bent...
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Iago on December 02, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
Alex McLeish (Not a player but....)
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: sg on December 02, 2011, 12:55:20 PM
Cuellar in Jan.  Hopefully Heskey.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Lambert and Payne on December 02, 2011, 01:14:41 PM
Heskey, Collins, Dunne, Beye, Petrov. I'll even give them the details for the train
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2011, 01:15:36 PM
Cuellar in Jan. 

That's a really good shout, which I hadnt thought of.

In fact, i reckon that's the most likely.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 02, 2011, 01:18:03 PM
Cuellar's probably thinking that he'll never get to play at CB ever again.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 02, 2011, 01:18:03 PM
Agathe.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 02, 2011, 01:22:21 PM
Heskey, Dunne and Petrov will do.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Mister E on December 02, 2011, 01:26:15 PM
Craig Gardner will be delighted if Pube-head goes to the Stm de Shite; he mihgt get a game (albeit at FB).
Sutton may find himself dusting off his boots.

Look out for 5-6 v expensive but out-of-touch 'backroom staff' going also to the SdS.

If he goes there, it'll be the best Pantomime of the Xmas season.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: timeoutbigbar on December 02, 2011, 01:27:22 PM
Marlon Harewood
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: usav on December 02, 2011, 02:13:44 PM
On the last day of the window, obviously.

Clappy thing.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: The Man With A Stick on December 02, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
Is Henrik Larsson still playing?  He'll be sniffing round him again if so.

Surely Ellis Short will have had a word and said "you won't be having any of the overpaid shite who you never played at your last club"?
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 02, 2011, 02:32:07 PM
There is no chance of any player leaving Aston villa in Jan to sign for sunderland.  Just because MON signed them for us doesn't mean he will sign them for Sunderland.  Did Eck sign anyone from blues when we were all thought that some players would follow him.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Vanilla on December 02, 2011, 02:35:04 PM
Strangely, all the decent players MON brought to the club are gone. Doubt he will come in for the leftovers.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Small Rodent on December 02, 2011, 02:40:46 PM
Shaun Maloney
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Dante Lavelli on December 02, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
Wouldn't it be weird if he suddenly started swooping for a load of unheard of european wonder kids.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on December 02, 2011, 02:56:37 PM
Wouldn't it be weird if he suddenly started swooping for a load of unheard of european wonder kids.

Or depressing if he signs the new Milner, Ashley Young, Downing (still highly rated by many, if not by me personally) and Carew?
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Fuse on December 02, 2011, 03:00:16 PM
I think MO'N will make a big effort to sign Gabby. Unfortunately i think Gabby would jump at the chance to play for MO'N again, especially as he doesn't like playing 2nd fiddle to Bent.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: UsualSuspect on December 02, 2011, 03:15:45 PM
Wouldn't it be weird if he suddenly started swooping for a load of unheard of european wonder kids.

Or depressing if he signs the new Milner, Ashley Young, Downing (still highly rated by many, if not by me personally) and Carew?

Even though MON signed Milner we had already tried to do it before under DOL, AY was hardly an unknown and Downing had played for England so it's not like MON had managed to unearth an unpolished gem.

For any half decent signings he made you can see at least 2 shit ones

Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 02, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
None of them.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Compass on December 02, 2011, 03:20:42 PM
I think MO'N will make a big effort to sign Gabby. Unfortunately i think Gabby would jump at the chance to play for MO'N again, especially as he doesn't like playing 2nd fiddle to Bent.

If the board sold Gabby to Sunderland and especially to MON then all the little support they have left will be vanquished immediately. It would turn into chaos. I mean if it wasn't for Gabby we would be 15th or lower right about now. Would make no sense at all.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: CJ on December 02, 2011, 03:24:50 PM
Heskey, Collins, Dunne, Beye, Petrov. I'll even give them the details for the train

If we have a whip-round for petrol I'll drive them there myself
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Monty on December 02, 2011, 03:25:00 PM
I think MO'N will make a big effort to sign Gabby. Unfortunately i think Gabby would jump at the chance to play for MO'N again, especially as he doesn't like playing 2nd fiddle to Bent.

MON or no MON, Gabriel Agbonlahor will never leave Villa for Sunderland.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on December 02, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
Heskey please please please
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2011, 04:05:05 PM
I think MO'N will make a big effort to sign Gabby. Unfortunately i think Gabby would jump at the chance to play for MO'N again, especially as he doesn't like playing 2nd fiddle to Bent.

If the board sold Gabby to Sunderland and especially to MON then all the little support they have left will be vanquished immediately. It would turn into chaos. I mean if it wasn't for Gabby we would be 15th or lower right about now. Would make no sense at all.

Gabby is not going to want to leave Villa for Sunderland.

Fuck me, we're a bit insecure at times, aren't we?
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: bob on December 02, 2011, 04:13:21 PM
Yeah come on, Fuse. What kind of bizzaro world are you imagining that happening in?
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Compass on December 02, 2011, 04:21:15 PM
I think MO'N will make a big effort to sign Gabby. Unfortunately i think Gabby would jump at the chance to play for MO'N again, especially as he doesn't like playing 2nd fiddle to Bent.

If the board sold Gabby to Sunderland and especially to MON then all the little support they have left will be vanquished immediately. It would turn into chaos. I mean if it wasn't for Gabby we would be 15th or lower right about now. Would make no sense at all.

Gabby is not going to want to leave Villa for Sunderland.

Fuck me, we're a bit insecure at times, aren't we?

I think it would be foolish to rule anything out. The board are capable of anything catastrophic after that shocking summer.

Gabby may not want to live Villa for Sunderland, but if the board find the right price and want to sell him he'll have no say in the matter.

I'm not saying it'll most certainly happen, but the board can't be trusted now. There's always going to be that doubt.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 02, 2011, 04:28:58 PM
I wonder what will be their Harewood type signing to spark their forums into meltdown.  A Jerome from Stoke for instance.

It's MON, he can't help himself buying somebody really crap.

Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2011, 04:33:27 PM
I think MO'N will make a big effort to sign Gabby. Unfortunately i think Gabby would jump at the chance to play for MO'N again, especially as he doesn't like playing 2nd fiddle to Bent.

If the board sold Gabby to Sunderland and especially to MON then all the little support they have left will be vanquished immediately. It would turn into chaos. I mean if it wasn't for Gabby we would be 15th or lower right about now. Would make no sense at all.

Gabby is not going to want to leave Villa for Sunderland.

Fuck me, we're a bit insecure at times, aren't we?

I think it would be foolish to rule anything out. The board are capable of anything catastrophic after that shocking summer.

Gabby may not want to live Villa for Sunderland, but if the board find the right price and want to sell him he'll have no say in the matter.

I'm not saying it'll most certainly happen, but the board can't be trusted now. There's always going to be that doubt.

He will have a say, though.

You can't force a player to move somewhere he doesn't want to go.

I appreciate your point about how the board like the money, that's true, but to think Gabby is going to want to leave Villa to go to Sunderland is just mental.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: TonyD on December 02, 2011, 04:33:49 PM
Not sure if he will sign any Villa players given his fall out with the club.  Would make the negotiating awkward. 
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2011, 04:33:59 PM
I wonder what will be their Harewood type signing to spark their forums into meltdown.  A Jerome from Stoke for instance.

It's MON, he can't help himself buying somebody really crap.



Well, amusingly, their most pressing need is a striker, which is a position he's hardly covered himself in glory with.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Merv on December 02, 2011, 05:04:44 PM
Gabby looks like he's absolutely loving his football this season, I'd be stunned if he left us for Sunderland.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Rigadon on December 02, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
How do we know that Gabby 'likes MON'.  He might've hated the bloke. 

Talk of him leaving to go to Sunderland is fanciful!  Might it be that we as supporters are as low in confidence as our team?     To paraphrase mr Walnuts, let's collectively grow a pair  it might rub off on the team somehow.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 02, 2011, 05:12:18 PM
Not sure if he will sign any Villa players given his fall out with the club.  Would make the negotiating awkward. 

No need for negotiations - they can just have `em, especially Heskey
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Shrek on December 02, 2011, 05:14:23 PM
Get a grip guys, Gabby will only leave us for a bigger club. Fucking Sunderland, your having laugh.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: ez on December 02, 2011, 05:46:56 PM
Where's Salifou?
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: TheSandman on December 02, 2011, 05:48:12 PM
German 3rd Division.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: richard moore on December 02, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
He'll sign a whole load of over-priced, over-hyped crap British players........which doesn't narrow down the field very much I realise
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Colhint on December 02, 2011, 08:10:23 PM
NO i actually think he has learned his lesson. wouldn't surprise me if he bought three right backs in january
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: brian green on December 02, 2011, 08:25:11 PM
He won't sign anybody.   He will rattle his begging bowl around the clubs with big squads looking for loan deals.

He will have already looked the Sunderland board in the eye and promised them everything they have heard about him spunking money in air for rubbish players on grossly inflated wages for never ending contracts is not true.   By God I bet his jaw aches from bullshitting them.

For about two months he will be a reformed character then he will start believing his own publicity again and demand to sign Carlton Cole for twenty million and a hundred grand a week on a six year contract.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Grande Pablo on December 02, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
Warnock? 
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Lobsterboy on December 02, 2011, 09:01:49 PM
I'm not sure who M'ON will want from the current Villa set up; presume it will be based on what he sees as his key needs once he has chance to assess his squad.

Would see the likes of Petrov, Cuellar, Heskey, Beye as potentially on the radar but hope he doesn't come in for the likes of Clark and/or Albrighton as either of those could be tempted by the promise of regular first team football

Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 02, 2011, 09:03:33 PM
If the miniscule budget rumours are to be believed then i agree Carlos looks likely. We wanted rid in the summer and he's out of contract and he's solid and would do a good job for them. Pity he doesn't get a chance here. Obviously Heskey would be nice but he's AM's golden boy. We couldn't get that lucky. ;0(
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: not3bad on December 02, 2011, 09:31:47 PM
Imagine if Sunderland made an offer for Heskey and AM turned them down.  How we'd laugh.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: gaucho1966 on December 02, 2011, 10:16:47 PM
How do we know that Gabby 'likes MON'.  He might've hated the bloke. 

Talk of him leaving to go to Sunderland is fanciful!  Might it be that we as supporters are as low in confidence as our team?     To paraphrase mr Walnuts, let's collectively grow a pair  it might rub off on the team somehow.

 Gabby struggled under MON. He the one player who's excelled under McL. I doubt he'll go anywhere.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: timeoutbigbar on December 02, 2011, 10:24:53 PM
I can't see MON wanting too many of our players.  If im honest, I don't want most of them.  Im not his biggest fan, in fact, I have a good level of dislike for the man, but to suggest he didn't make Young, Downing and Milner the players they are is just bitterness.  They may have had talent beforehand, but he turned them over at double the price we paid for them at least.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Irish villain on December 02, 2011, 11:26:20 PM
Imagine if Sunderland made an offer for Heskey and AM turned them down.  How we'd laugh.

I'd cry bitterly for the first time in years.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: bob on December 03, 2011, 07:36:14 AM
How do we know that Gabby 'likes MON'.  He might've hated the bloke. 

Talk of him leaving to go to Sunderland is fanciful!  Might it be that we as supporters are as low in confidence as our team?     To paraphrase mr Walnuts, let's collectively grow a pair  it might rub off on the team somehow.

 Gabby struggled under MON.

Eh? No he didn't.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: *shellac* on December 03, 2011, 08:14:17 AM
Nigel Reo Coker.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: Chipsticks on December 03, 2011, 08:46:14 AM
Petrov seems likely to me, being as he played for MON at Celtic and us.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: supertom on December 03, 2011, 09:09:01 AM
To be honest, none. I think O Neill will be far too stubborn to do any dealing with us. Clearly he feels he was forced out by Randy. Even O Neill, as daft as he is could surely not, NOT, have Emile Heskey for a 3rd fucking time! Or...

Actually if O Neill does take up the job there'll be little of any interest in the top flight outside the North-East. I'd be very curious to see how O Neill does with them. I'd also be very curious to see if Newcastle can maintain their standing. If they finish top 6, having spent fuck all, with a squad that's arguably worse than some teams a mile behind them in the league table, then there's hope for us all.

But lets face it, we've got our spot between 8th-16th all sewn up. Mid-table mediocrity. We know what's coming, and we know how we're gonna get it (with fuck ugly football that makes MON's brand look like Barca). And does anyone here care which half of Manchester wins the league? I don't. What a crap, dull, pointless, season. :(

Wow, bad mood today. 90% pointlessness of football related. 10% braving the high streets for xmas shopping related.
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: olaftab on December 03, 2011, 09:40:12 AM
There are lot of problems with the current Sunderland team. So they need players from all over Europe. Mr O'Neill  has, as usual, has  got scouts all over the continent  and after debriefing them he has prepared a short list from the best available in this country and abroad. The list is:

Brad Guzan £3m
Habib Beye  £2m
Zat Knight   £3m
James Collins  £4m
Steve Warnock  £2m
Nigel Reo-Coker  £2m
Steve Sidwell £3m
Curtis Davies £4m
Emile Heskey £4m
Marlon Harewood £1m
Wayne Routledge £2

That is a complete new team for under £30m. A bargain when you consider that not so long ago  all these players cost Aston Villa  over £50m! This will as usual be a very shrewd move by  Mr O'Neill
Title: Re: Players moving to Sunderland
Post by: SashasGrandad on December 03, 2011, 09:49:50 AM
There are lot of problems with the current Sunderland team. So they need players from all over Europe. Mr O'Neill  has, as usual, has  got scouts all over the continent  and after debriefing them he has prepared a short list from the best available in this country and abroad. The list is:

Brad Guzan £3m
Habib Beye  £2m
Zat Knight   £3m
James Collins  £4m
Steve Warnock  £2m
Nigel Reo-Coker  £2m
Steve Sidwell £3m
Curtis Davies £4m
Emile Heskey £4m
Marlon Harewood £1m
Wayne Routledge £2

That is a complete new team for under £30m. A bargain when you consider that not so long ago  all these players cost Aston Villa  over £50m! This will as usual be a very shrewd move by  Mr O'Neill

He could probably get some of them for a couple of quid and their bus fare to Wearside.
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