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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on November 24, 2011, 08:06:48 AM
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Buy one get one free (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2525298,00.html)
150 on offer.
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I think they'll struggle at the end of this season to convince us season ticket holders that a season ticket represents good value for money.
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Sad to say, you reap what you sow. Can't actually make this game and was going to viagoogoo season ticket. Think I'll just give it away so it doesn't go to waste
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(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/3d/ac/0,,10265~10071101,00.jpg)
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If they did'nt charge such a ridiculous price for a kids ticket in that area in the first place, they'd sell a few more.
Other than that, it's only 150 they're selling so it's a good idea.
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(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/3d/ac/0,,10265~10071101,00.jpg)
Yes I know they say that, and I'm sure that it's true as far as sitting in a specific seat is concerned (they'd never advertise it if it wasn't) but I think they're taking the mickey out of season ticket holders who paid up front in good faith and then they offer cheap tickets for every game of the season. I know a lot of these offers are for specific areas of the ground but in recent games they've even extended the areas where cheap tickets are available.
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The true test for our club will be at the end of this season, how many of the 20,000 will re new for next season, unless things change drastically , attendances will continue to drop
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(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/3d/ac/0,,10265~10071101,00.jpg)
Yes I know they say that, and I'm sure that it's true as far as sitting in a specific seat is concerned (they'd never advertise it if it wasn't) but I think they're taking the mickey out of season ticket holders who paid up front in good faith and then they offer cheap tickets for every game of the season. I know a lot of these offers are for specific areas of the ground but in recent games they've even extended the areas where cheap tickets are available.
I completely agree with you.
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Even more discounting.......
http://www.viagogo.co.uk/Exclusive-Tickets/Aston-Villa-Exclusive-Deals
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But just think of all the added benefits of being a season-ticket holder - that welcome pack with the CD, the wonderful sticker to put on our seats to show it belongs to a ST holder, the letter from Randy - need I say more??
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
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the letter from Randy - need I say more??
I was inspired by that letter and am hoping against hope that we retain our place in the Deloitte 20 richest clubs or whatever the heck it's called.
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
Stoke and clubs like them often do have more season ticket holders than us. The major reason is ground capacity.
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My Holte End season ticket works out at £21.31 a game. Take into account the £5 they just put back on, & the £5 voucher that already came with my season ticket, and it dips under £21 to £20.79 per game.
I effortlessly sit in the same seat for every game, and have grown to enjoy the company of people around us as well as those I directly go with.
Other than the football being shite, which is a seperate issue, I am still satisfied that my season ticket is pretty good value, even with all these special offers.
Incidentally, at a recent SCG I told them that Preston had a policy of kids under 8 always getting in free, as PNE believed it's important to ensure that fans are able to continue to attend when they have a young family, and bring through the next generation of supporters. Kids also promote more spending inside the ground on food and merchandise. I've noticed it creates a nice atmosphere around the game as loads of kids go as a result of this - they all congregate down the front before the game, at half and full time to meet the mascot and sometimes the players. Kids are excitable and the vibe they give off helps people to be less cynical. This is why I'd support this as a long term measure.
I think the club could make an announcement now about reductions on season tickets next season, for people who have had one this season. None of us like to see the ground half empty, but something like this could help to quell the fears of ST holders who think they're been taken for granted while the club are having to churn out loads of offers to fill the ground. It could then also free them up to put out more offers without upsetting season ticket holders.
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Even more discounting.......
http://www.viagogo.co.uk/Exclusive-Tickets/Aston-Villa-Exclusive-Deals
Shocked at those prices for the games in the link. Fair weathers and glory supporters for the opposition usually bulk up sales for these games.
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Gave up my season ticket ticket last season , based on all reasons we discussed and not missed games. But I fancied going to a game over christmas and bought a ticket for witton lane at a £10 of that offer.
Villa need to sort pricing strategy out.
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Mind due as an example, Blackburn are doing 3 games for £20! how mad is that
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The "cheapest way to see every game IN THE SAME SEAT" thing is important, yes, but then again, there will be season ticket holders who think the "same seat" factor isn't enough to swing them towards renewal rather than going for cheap deals.
It's a dangerous game to play.
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The "cheapest way to see every game IN THE SAME SEAT" thing is important, yes, but then again, there will be season ticket holders who think the "same seat" factor isn't enough to swing them towards renewal rather than going for cheap deals.
It's a dangerous game to play.
The season ticket is necessary to be in the away scheme which makes things easier.
I agree that people will pay match by match if they are not bothered with guaranteeing away tickets or sitting in the same seat.
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Just had new Group Bookings leaflet. They are trying to fill the ground and you can't fault their effort.
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Just had new Group Bookings leaflet. They are trying to fill the ground and you can't fault their effort.
They have neglected their core product by appointing AM and this is the evident consequences of that decision.
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Call it £1.50 and I'm in
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Under twelves are free at Stourbridge. I might just jack it all in and start watching them instead next season.
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Mind due as an example, Blackburn are doing 3 games for £20! how mad is that
Chelsea are charging us £52-£55 for their game at Stamford Bridge. That's even madder.
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Under twelves are free at Stourbridge. I might just jack it all in and start watching them instead next season.
I might as well the amount of times I've seen them this season.
Going Saturday? Big Trophy match against the reformed Chester.
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Very likely will be unless Charlie has any illness relapse. Is it a 3 kick off?
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Yup.
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recently been making a note of the empty seats on the ground plan on the ticket site. how it's looking for united, working on the basis of a capacity of 42789. although presumably they've had their allocation cut again for persistent standing/jibbing and as such the capacity will be 500 lower.
....................16/11/2011......23/11/2011......24/11/2011
Witton Lane.....916..................753.....................706
Holte End.........2854................2342...................2213
Trinity Road......906..................533.....................482
North Stand......595.................369.....................314
Empty Seats.....5271................3997...................3715
Attendance......37518..............38792.................39074
no i don't have a life....
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Under twelves are free at Stourbridge. I might just jack it all in and start watching them instead next season.
yeah,
you wont be saying that when we are top 4 next season and Mcliesh is leading us out for a Wembley final will ya, WILL YA
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That is about as likely our players playing better football than Barcelona.
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They're not going too badly they've just had £500 off me for Chelsea away.
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They're not going too badly they've just had £500 off me for Chelsea away.
Just the 1, was it?
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Manure won't sell out imo, particularly if we lose again on Sunday.
8 days to go and I still haven't got my ticket. Little motivation to pay 31 quid to watch us defend and then lose to them but suppose I'll relent over the weekend.
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recently been making a note of the empty seats on the ground plan on the ticket site. how it's looking for united, working on the basis of a capacity of 42789. although presumably they've had their allocation cut again for persistent standing/jibbing and as such the capacity will be 500 lower.
....................16/11/2011......23/11/2011......24/11/2011
Witton Lane.....916..................753.....................706
Holte End.........2854................2342...................2213
Trinity Road......906..................533.....................482
North Stand......595.................369.....................314
Empty Seats.....5271................3997...................3715
Attendance......37518..............38792.................39074
no i don't have a life....
It will be interesting to see what happens as the numbers on that site have proved to be a load of bollocks on at least three occasions that I have counted them.
Regarding the Mancs, the club know that their fans bunk their way in but seem powerless to do anything about it.
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Even more discounting.......
http://www.viagogo.co.uk/Exclusive-Tickets/Aston-Villa-Exclusive-Deals
Shocked at those prices for the games in the link. Fair weathers and glory supporters for the opposition usually bulk up sales for these games.
Just had two tickets for Swansea for 26 quid inc booking fees
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Tbh Viagogo is the way to go for non season ticket holders. I've started using it recently and got some great deals. Arsenal tickets on there in the trinity were 20 quid, the matchday price up there is 40 quid.
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Problem is people don't want to come to a half full stadium, resulting in the atmosphere being rubbish, meaning we are not as effective on the team, contributing to the rubbish football being dished up.
But if we were getting over 40k every week, more people would want to come because of the good atmosphere, hopefully inspiring the team to show more passion and play better football and achieving better results.
It's a vicious circle which we are on the wrong side of, unfortunately things wills only get worse with Randy's new ambition and with Alex Mcleish in charge.
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Tbh Viagogo is the way to go for non season ticket holders. I've started using it recently and got some great deals. Arsenal tickets on there in the trinity were 20 quid, the matchday price up there is 40 quid.
How is this possible?
It's the same with Villa tops being a lot cheaper at sports world.
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Tbh Viagogo is the way to go for non season ticket holders. I've started using it recently and got some great deals. Arsenal tickets on there in the trinity were 20 quid, the matchday price up there is 40 quid.
How is this possible?
It's the same with Villa tops being a lot cheaper at sports world.
Why should the second bit be a surprise?
Large sports retailers are in a good position to get better deals with Nike on stock.
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
Stoke and clubs like them often do have more season ticket holders than us. The major reason is ground capacity.
You mean they want the ground to be as full as possible for each game?
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
Stoke have had great success in the past ten years, so it is no surprise that they are attracting more supporters. They were also recently in the FA cup final and have European football on offer, I wish we could be boasting about that.
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
Stoke and clubs like them often do have more season ticket holders than us. The major reason is ground capacity.
You mean they want the ground to be as full as possible for each game?
Stoke have around 24,000 seats available to their own supporters, we have 40,000. Therefore to make sure of getting in a Stoke fan would have to buy a season ticket.
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
Stoke have had great success in the past ten years, so it is no surprise that they are attracting more supporters. They were also recently in the FA cup final and have European football on offer, I wish we could be boasting about that.
Stoke averaged 16,823 in their last season in the Championship. They got promoted to the Premier League and they averaged 27,020.
Fair weather support.
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
Stoke and clubs like them often do have more season ticket holders than us. The major reason is ground capacity.
You mean they want the ground to be as full as possible for each game?
Stoke have around 24,000 seats available to their own supporters, we have 40,000. Therefore to make sure of getting in a Stoke fan would have to buy a season ticket.
Getcha.
I think our season tickets sold for this season is higher than 20,000. Pretty sure I saw some report at the end of the summer putting it at circa 23k.
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I upgraded my two junior ST's for the Arsenal game and I was charged £19 for each. I feel cheated.
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20,000
You know things are bad when Stoke City have more season ticket holders than Aston Villa.
Stoke have had great success in the past ten years, so it is no surprise that they are attracting more supporters. They were also recently in the FA cup final and have European football on offer, I wish we could be boasting about that.
Stoke averaged 16,823 in their last season in the Championship. They got promoted to the Premier League and they averaged 27,020.
Fair weather support.
Correct. Does success and excitement brings more supporters?
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Stoke have been comparatively successful in the last few years hence why their attendances are high. They are a bit like us in 2008/09 and 2009/10. There was a feel good factor and we were doing well and attendances were better. Our support is probably just as fair weather as you alledge Stoke's is.
That said listening to their game on the blower today the commentators have mentioned how there is a few empty seats their.
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It was a bit similar when SHA came up in 2002, think they had 23k season ticket holders and we had 21k.
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Can we stop comparing ourselves to Stoke, it is getting a bit depressing.
I mean, in 12 months we could be looking at Port Vale and going 'if only'.
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I was going to put this in at the end of the season (and probably will). Here's a list of the home games so far and what I think was/is the cheapest admission for an adult sitting anywhere in the ground where there's a cut price offer, who can buy tickets anytime and has ST holder friends who can get him tickets if needs be.
Blackburn £15
Wolves £25
Newcastle £20
Wigan £5
WBA £25
Norwich £10
Man U £26
L'pool £26
Arsenal £20
Swansea £14
That's £186 for 10 home games, against £480 for 19 games for my Lower Holte ST. Any Viagogo games include the compulsory charges.
I realise people like to sit by their regular crowd, but if you're not bothered it's a massive saving buying individually. Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
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If the season tickets were dropped to say 250 to 300quid how many extra do you think we would sell and would the better atmosphere and additional pie sales compensate for the loss of revenue from the current season ticket sales?
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If the season tickets were dropped to say 250 to 300quid how many extra do you think we would sell and would the better atmosphere and additional pie sales compensate for the loss of revenue from the current season ticket sales?
How many pies do you eat in one sitting?
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Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
Do away game tickets go onto general sale now?
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I was going to put this in at the end of the season (and probably will). Here's a list of the home games so far and what I think was/is the cheapest admission for an adult sitting anywhere in the ground where there's a cut price offer, who can buy tickets anytime and has ST holder friends who can get him tickets if needs be.
Blackburn £15
Wolves £25
Newcastle £20
Wigan £5
WBA £25
Norwich £10
Man U £26
L'pool £26
Arsenal £20
Swansea £14
That's £186 for 10 home games, against £480 for 19 games for my Lower Holte ST. Any Viagogo games include the compulsory charges.
I realise people like to sit by their regular crowd, but if you're not bothered it's a massive saving buying individually. Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
That's very interesting reading. A season ticket was always better value because of the up-front commitment to the club.
Allied to our reduced investment in players policy, I can see there being a big drop in sales next summer if this continues.
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Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
Do away game tickets go onto general sale now?
They go to away ST holders first, then ST holders with away games history this season, then to ST holders and if any left anyone with a previous booking history
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Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
Do away game tickets go onto general sale now?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think all the aways so far have gone to anyone with an away history, not neccessarily from this season.
My mate bought two Swansea tickets on one ref number, something which was almost always a no-no previously, despite the Ticket Office stressing "one ticket per client reference" on the website.
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I've been able to easily get away tickets this season (Apart from Fulham, but took them up on the neutral area), and i've not got a season ticket.
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I was going to put this in at the end of the season (and probably will). Here's a list of the home games so far and what I think was/is the cheapest admission for an adult sitting anywhere in the ground where there's a cut price offer, who can buy tickets anytime and has ST holder friends who can get him tickets if needs be.
Blackburn £15
Wolves £25
Newcastle £20
Wigan £5
WBA £25
Norwich £10
Man U £26
L'pool £26
Arsenal £20
Swansea £14
That's £186 for 10 home games, against £480 for 19 games for my Lower Holte ST. Any Viagogo games include the compulsory charges.
I realise people like to sit by their regular crowd, but if you're not bothered it's a massive saving buying individually. Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
That's very misleading.
Those prices are in very limited areas and are purely to try and fill the ground.
If every ST holder didn't buy one, most would be worse off by the end of the season.
Let's not look at what we haven't got, let's be privileged to say 'yes I'm a ST holder at Villa'.
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I was going to put this in at the end of the season (and probably will). Here's a list of the home games so far and what I think was/is the cheapest admission for an adult sitting anywhere in the ground where there's a cut price offer, who can buy tickets anytime and has ST holder friends who can get him tickets if needs be.
Blackburn £15
Wolves £25
Newcastle £20
Wigan £5
WBA £25
Norwich £10
Man U £26
L'pool £26
Arsenal £20
Swansea £14
That's £186 for 10 home games, against £480 for 19 games for my Lower Holte ST. Any Viagogo games include the compulsory charges.
I realise people like to sit by their regular crowd, but if you're not bothered it's a massive saving buying individually. Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
Let's not look at what we haven't got, let's be privileged to say 'yes I'm a ST holder at Villa'.
I would not call it a privilege to have a season ticket, it is a lifestyle choice. And one that I am finding it harder to justify
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I was going to put this in at the end of the season (and probably will). Here's a list of the home games so far and what I think was/is the cheapest admission for an adult sitting anywhere in the ground where there's a cut price offer, who can buy tickets anytime and has ST holder friends who can get him tickets if needs be.
Blackburn £15
Wolves £25
Newcastle £20
Wigan £5
WBA £25
Norwich £10
Man U £26
L'pool £26
Arsenal £20
Swansea £14
That's £186 for 10 home games, against £480 for 19 games for my Lower Holte ST. Any Viagogo games include the compulsory charges.
I realise people like to sit by their regular crowd, but if you're not bothered it's a massive saving buying individually. Personally, I kept my ST for access to away tickets, but that's not a problem now either if you haven't got one.
That's very misleading.
Those prices are in very limited areas and are purely to try and fill the ground.
If every ST holder didn't buy one, most would be worse off by the end of the season.
Let's not look at what we haven't got, let's be privileged to say 'yes I'm a ST holder at Villa'.
It isn't misleading at all - read the start of his post, he acknowledges it.
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Our season ticket prices aren't that bad tbf unless you sit in the Trinity.
I think the point people miss/don't realise when they have a season ticket is our actual matchday prices have rose significantly over the past years as the quality on the pitch has decreased.
Take tommorrow's game. 2 or 3 seasons ago a category A game against Manure would've cost 24 quid in the North stand upper. Tommorrow it's 31 quid.
I think tickets in the Trinity and Witton are 45 quid tommorrow, take someone who wakes up on the day of the game and wants to go, are these really prices they'll pay without hestitation?
That's part of the reason we're struggling to sell out for Manure as less season ticket holders means more potential matchday customers.
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I would not call it a privilege to have a season ticket, it is a lifestyle choice. And one that I am finding it harder to justify
Exactly.
We can grandstand as much as we want about "to be privileged to have an AVFC season tcket", but it is ultimately rather hollow.
It is a large expenditure that people undertake as a hobby, and is subject to all the economic constraints and uncertainty that everything else is.
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I had an email this morning from Viagogo offering me a United ticket and a Swansea ticket for 30 quid.
I have paid 26 quid for 2 Swansea tickets
19 for 1 Arsenal ticket
14 for 1 QPR ticket
All in Row O Upper trinity Block A
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I think the main problem is the product - if we continue to play this awful brand on non football then i dont think we will see VP full again - thats even if we gave the tickets away
Folk are just bored of it all
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I had an email this morning from Viagogo offering me a United ticket and a Swansea ticket for 30 quid.
I have paid 26 quid for 2 Swansea tickets
19 for 1 Arsenal ticket
14 for 1 QPR ticket
All in Row O Upper trinity Block A
That's what I've done, and then right on kick off, I'll move into one of the large number of empty seats around the half way line, same as I've done before this season.
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I had an email this morning from Viagogo offering me a United ticket and a Swansea ticket for 30 quid.
I have paid 26 quid for 2 Swansea tickets
19 for 1 Arsenal ticket
14 for 1 QPR ticket
All in Row O Upper trinity Block A
That's what I've done, and then right on kick off, I'll move into one of the large number of empty seats around the half way line, same as I've done before this season.
Does the club actually monitor which fans these tickets go to, as until recently it was illegal to resell tickets because of this?
Also just noticed Villa got the sh*tty end of the stick when the Christmas games were drawn. No home games for the Christmas week, which would usually push up attendances, even against smaller clubs.
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I think the main problem is the product - if we continue to play this awful brand on non football then i dont think we will see VP full again - thats even if we gave the tickets away
Folk are just bored of it all
I think the main problem is folk are skint or worried about being skint in the future and Christmas is just around the corner. There is a lot of belt tightening going on even for those lucky enough to still have a job.
Everytime you switch on the news it is more financial doom and gloom, in all sectors consumer confidence is down and less money is being spent. Why should football be any different.
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Times are hard, but if the team were playing like Man City, VP would be packed at every home game. The commercial department must find it difficult to peddle mediocrity to lapsed supporters.
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I think the main problem is the product - if we continue to play this awful brand on non football then i dont think we will see VP full again - thats even if we gave the tickets away
Folk are just bored of it all
I think the main problem is folk are skint or worried about being skint in the future and Christmas is just around the corner. There is a lot of belt tightening going on even for those lucky enough to still have a job.
Everytime you switch on the news it is more financial doom and gloom, in all sectors consumer confidence is down and less money is being spent. Why should football be any different.
If the product on the pitch was exciting, we would definitely increase our attendances. It would be deluded to think that AM's appointment did not influence attendances, it has.
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I think the main problem is the product - if we continue to play this awful brand on non football then i dont think we will see VP full again - thats even if we gave the tickets away
Folk are just bored of it all
I think the main problem is folk are skint or worried about being skint in the future and Christmas is just around the corner. There is a lot of belt tightening going on even for those lucky enough to still have a job.
Everytime you switch on the news it is more financial doom and gloom, in all sectors consumer confidence is down and less money is being spent. Why should football be any different.
If the product on the pitch was exciting, we would definitely increase our attendances. It would be deluded to think that AM's appointment did not influence attendances, it has.
Of course it has an impact.
It's easier to justify buying an expensive product in hard times if you have a good expectation it will be of high quality than if you expect it to be poor.
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I had an email this morning from Viagogo offering me a United ticket and a Swansea ticket for 30 quid.
I have paid 26 quid for 2 Swansea tickets
19 for 1 Arsenal ticket
14 for 1 QPR ticket
All in Row O Upper trinity Block A
That's what I've done, and then right on kick off, I'll move into one of the large number of empty seats around the half way line, same as I've done before this season.
Does the club actually monitor which fans these tickets go to, as until recently it was illegal to resell tickets because of this?
Also just noticed Villa got the sh*tty end of the stick when the Christmas games were drawn. No home games for the Christmas week, which would usually push up attendances, even against smaller clubs.
The club know exactly what is going on.
Viagogo conatct them to make sure that you are a supporter so the club must give them yr booking ref.
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Times are hard, but if the team were playing like Man City, VP would be packed at every home game. The commercial department must find it difficult to peddle mediocrity to lapsed supporters.
It costs £300m to play like Man City.
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O.K Spurs then...
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Times are hard, but if the team were playing like Man City, VP would be packed at every home game. The commercial department must find it difficult to peddle mediocrity to lapsed supporters.
It costs £300m to play like Man City.
I just want us to be watchable.
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Times are hard, but if the team were playing like Man City, VP would be packed at every home game. The commercial department must find it difficult to peddle mediocrity to lapsed supporters.
It costs £300m to play like Man City.
Which would pack Villa Park for every home game.
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I'm not fussed about Man City. It would be nice to see us play like Swansea as things stand and I'm sure we've got the financial resource to do that.
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I had an email this morning from Viagogo offering me a United ticket and a Swansea ticket for 30 quid.
I have paid 26 quid for 2 Swansea tickets
19 for 1 Arsenal ticket
14 for 1 QPR ticket
All in Row O Upper trinity Block A
Just as a follow on from this, I received my tickets for Swansea yesterday and they even go onto your booking history. This then begs the question as to why i should ever buy tickets directly off the club again.
Seems bizarre to say the least
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Its is villa there processed my viagogo order over the phone yesterday
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Purely anecdotal evidence I know, but the only reason I'm not going this year is because I'm skint. There must be a few more like me.
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I'd dare say if we were showing the enterprise of Swansea or Norwich in the premier league let alone Tottenham or City there'd be a few thousand more on the gate. Even if results weren't as good.
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I'm going to try and get up to the Sunderland game assuming it doesn't change date. That won't be cheap with train from Winchester.
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I think that will be a tv game due to MON's return.
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I said after the Manure game I wont be going again any time soon, our style of fooootball is atrocious. I think that attendencies will continue to decline, watching a team that includes Heskey Hutton Nzogbia Collins an ageing Petrov playing hoofball and waiting for the opposition to attack is awful. The only excitement we can look forward to is a scrap to avoid relegation and how tedious is that?
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I wouldn't go if they paid me.
It's a big enough chore to take the ten minute walk to the pub and watch that drivel served up on the tv.
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I'm not fussed about Man City. It would be nice to see us play like Swansea as things stand and I'm sure we've got the financial resource to do that.
I'm not fussed about Man City. It would be nice to see us play like Swansea as things stand and I'm sure we've got the financial resource to do that.
Me too Adam.
If we had a team passing and moving like Swansea, with a Bent and Gabby up front with N'Zogbia just behind, we would be winning more games.
It's entertainment that's lacking, not just 3 points a game.
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Purely anecdotal evidence I know, but the only reason I'm not going this year is because I'm skint. There must be a few more like me.
Same here mate. I've been 3 times, and it's cost me a grand total of £20.
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It would be nice to see us play like Swansea as things stand and I'm sure we've got the financial resource to do that.
Agreed. It's not too much to ask.