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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: paulcomben on November 10, 2011, 01:00:16 PM

Title: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: paulcomben on November 10, 2011, 01:00:16 PM
Collins, Heskey, Petrov & others have been playing with injuries.  Gardner will get a first team chance soon. N'Zogbia will come good. Interesting, given regular comments on all of those subjects in this forum?
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: not3bad on November 10, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
Good to hear Gardner will get a run out soon.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 10, 2011, 01:25:24 PM
So why play Heskey if he's injured? Thats a good way to make it worse, same with the others
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Merv on November 10, 2011, 02:01:03 PM
Bit odd. I'd have thought Collins and Heskey both play in positions that we've enough cover in to allow us to rest them for a game or so if they're carrying knocks.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: villa for life on November 10, 2011, 02:44:07 PM
whatever McLeish and his backroom staff are doing, it's obviously working. Having sold our two best players in the summer, we are still sitting pretty in the league. Take a look at the table and apart from Newcastle, there's no way we are going to finish above any of the other sides.

McLeish deserves a lot of praise for what he has done so far, much more of an achievement than either of our previous two managers, in my opinion. Sure, it's early days and of course people can say that we haven't played anyone good...but you never know, we might beat them as well. Look at who we turned over in the final few games of last season. We won't necessarily lose to all the good teams just as we won't always beat the bad teams...

Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 10, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
whatever McLeish and his backroom staff are doing, it's obviously working.

Take a look at this: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2512093,00.html

The best is right at the end. Very funny but excellent for team building, something I really think we've really improved on this season.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: darren woolley on November 10, 2011, 02:52:59 PM
I cant wait to see Gardner in the first team really looking forward to see him play.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Vanilla on November 10, 2011, 03:00:14 PM
Playing injured players isn't through design surely. Houllier had to resort to playing kids this time last year because our squad wasn't big enough, and a year later we look like we are wading into similar waters if any of these injuries become long term.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: villa for life on November 10, 2011, 03:03:34 PM
which is another plus point in favour of McLeish. He hasn't alienated anyone and everyone seems willing to play for him, and we will need all those players at some point this season. He seems to be giving everyone a chance, which hasn't happened with previous managers..
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: eamonn on November 10, 2011, 04:09:55 PM
whatever McLeish and his backroom staff are doing, it's obviously working. Having sold our two best players in the summer, we are still sitting pretty in the league. Take a look at the table and apart from Newcastle, there's no way we are going to finish above any of the other sides.

McLeish deserves a lot of praise for what he has done so far, much more of an achievement than either of our previous two managers, in my opinion. Sure, it's early days and of course people can say that we haven't played anyone good...but you never know, we might beat them as well. Look at who we turned over in the final few games of last season. We won't necessarily lose to all the good teams just as we won't always beat the bad teams...



To be honest our record so far this season has been average, he certainly hasn't got us playing above ourselves like MON managed on ocassion.

We're probably a couple of points lower than I'd have predicted (one point in two home games against the Dingles and the Baggies is nothing short of shite). I did think we'd be better at defending leads but the jury is still out on that. Come the end of December we'll have a good idea of his merits as our manager this season.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: garyshawsknee on November 10, 2011, 04:38:40 PM
I think come the end of Dec will be our normal league position.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 10, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
Can I put a Gary Gardner sized tick next to him getting a start please.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Lizz on November 10, 2011, 09:40:00 PM
Never seen Warnock smile so much.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Gazza1982 on November 10, 2011, 09:48:03 PM
whatever McLeish and his backroom staff are doing, it's obviously working. Having sold our two best players in the summer, we are still sitting pretty in the league. Take a look at the table and apart from Newcastle, there's no way we are going to finish above any of the other sides.

McLeish deserves a lot of praise for what he has done so far, much more of an achievement than either of our previous two managers, in my opinion. Sure, it's early days and of course people can say that we haven't played anyone good...but you never know, we might beat them as well. Look at who we turned over in the final few games of last season. We won't necessarily lose to all the good teams just as we won't always beat the bad teams...



Have to agree with this,Wolves and Albion aside, i think he has done well.He has got Gabby playing again which is a huge bonus and as already stated he seems to be willing to give the youngsters a good run,Bannon,Herd, and hopefully Clark will all become regulars. Like many,i wasnt exactly thrilled when he was appointed but the table dosnt lie and it looks pretty healthy to me. Credit where credit is due, we just need a great FA Cup run and this season could turn out to be the best in a while providing Bent stays clear of injury. Now if Jenas and N'Zogbia come good.........
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Louzie0 on November 10, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
whatever McLeish and his backroom staff are doing, it's obviously working.

Take a look at this: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2512093,00.html

The best is right at the end. Very funny but excellent for team building, something I really think we've really improved on this season.

That gave me the biggest laugh this week - thanks!
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 11, 2011, 09:06:12 AM
Its a hard way to earn £50K a week isnt it?

Pity the likes of Dunney and Collins were not there (presumably due to International duty) as if anyone needs team bonding / buidling its that pair
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Summers on November 11, 2011, 09:58:57 AM
Looks like Warnock is a pretty important part of the team behind the scenes. That was a fantastic watch. I love seeing the team doing stuff like that. I think it benefits morale and performances.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: Concrete John on November 11, 2011, 10:19:57 AM
To be honest our record so far this season has been average, he certainly hasn't got us playing above ourselves like MON managed on ocassion.

We're probably a couple of points lower than I'd have predicted (one point in two home games against the Dingles and the Baggies is nothing short of shite). I did think we'd be better at defending leads but the jury is still out on that. Come the end of December we'll have a good idea of his merits as our manager this season.

Although all valid points, you have to go back to the old 'you can only beat what is in front of you' frame of mind.  Yes, I know we've only actually beaten 3 teams, but when you factor in games against two of the present top 4 and tricky away fixtures like Everton, the only really disappointing result for me was Wolves.  OK, WBA also, but we were pretty much done in by a poor ref's decision and certainly think we wouldn't have lost without that.

We'll need to improve to take any significant points from the games coming up, but that doesn't take away from the good start he's had as Villa manager.
Title: Re: Peter Grant on OS
Post by: eamonn on November 11, 2011, 05:06:59 PM
Hmm, I'd still say ''good'' is generous. Competent in my opinion. I though like him though and feel he really wants to make us a good team.

The video of the army training on avtv is a great ten minute watch if anyone who is subscribed hasn't seen it yet.

No mention of Gary Gardner being promoted in Grant's video interview on avtv - is there an article where he mentions it?
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